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THE POSTS:

 

Date: Sun, 17 Aug 1997 23:08:06 -0700
Subject: Re: Fw: lurk no more...plus 4 messages to listmates

Hi Aida, all,

Aida wrote:

<snippage>

> I am relatively new to all this myself, and I have figured out my
> overleaves from working with a book by the title of THE MICHAEL HANDBOOK
> by authors Jose Stevens, PhD and Simon Warwick-Smith. It's well-digested
> and organized basic Michael stuff, and it contains brief questionnaires and
> exercises you can use to tease out your role in essence, age, overleaves.
>
> It's very easy to work with. I bought it for about $15.

I would recommend this book as well. I've bought most of my Michael books online through the MEF at http://www.spiritguide.com They are very nice there and great to deal with, offering fast, personalized service.

<more snippage>

> I would love to have stuff channeled for me, but am not willing at this
> point to spend the money, and am suspicious of my wanting to get
> something for nothing, so I haven't asked anyone to channel for me for free yet.

I think that you would not be disappointed if you had even one short session with a good channel. In 30 minutes you could get your role, overleaves, centering and soul age done, and possibly more. There are a number of them available over the Internet - that's how I found mine. I can't express how glad I am that I had that first channeling (and the many subsequent ones.)

A less expensive alternative is to find a channel in your area who holds public group sessions, usually monthly. These are very fun and informative and I think that all of them answer personal questions after the topic for the evening has been covered. It's also a great way to get together with other Michael people - people with whom you share a special bond. I've met some wonderful people and even some Entity mates that way.

> And yet, I seem to just have done it so, here it is outright:
> MESSAGES TO LISTMATES:
> 1)Anyone out there feel called to channel my overleaves or whatever for
> me free of cost sometime? (I have no expectations about this either way -
> as Michael says over and over - it's YOUR choice...!)

I'm learning to channel Michael but not yet ready to give it a try - sorry! Perhaps someone else on the list?

> 2)Also, personally, I am interested more in working with application of
> the material to working with daily stuff than to spiraling out to the realm
> of cadres and angels at this point. The metaphysical semantics thread was
> very interesting to me, and I will resume it soon if someone elso doesn't
> do it first.

For those interested, Michael's take (a very short version) on angels can be found on Tricia Sullivan's web site at http://pw2.netcom.com/~dlstas/Movies.html (My feelings exactly Michael!)

> 3)Many postings include little encoded messages I don't understand yet -
> email code, I guess. What's this :) or this :^/ and so on... (are they
> litle sideways faces?)

Yep! "Emoticons".

> And what about IMO (that's a the name of a pizza franchise here in St.
> Louis...) or BTW (a car?) Please educate me!

IMO = "in my opinion". You may also see it as IMHO, "in my humble opinion". BTW = "by the way".

> 4)Finally, let's hear from people other than scholars sometime! I truly
> love what the scholars are bringing to the party - I really admire your
> focus and breadth of exploration - even if yu kant spel tu save yur lifs
> (just yoking!) - but I want to listen from those who input on 2 levels
> (priests and slaves), 3 levels (sages), and the ever-amazing multi-level
> artisans (as many as 8 Michael says!). Also from Kings and Warriors, of
> course.

OK, here's a fellow Server heard from. Server/Warrior with Scholar casting to be exact!

> With great fondness for all of you ... and many thanks too -
> Aida

Hope this is helpful Aida!

Take care all,
Janet (still "up there" from a lengthy Michael and Reiki session today - thanks "guys"!!)


Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 09:15:10 +0000
Subject: Thanks for this posting quoting Erich Neumann

Posting of Aida's note to mrDean (edited):

> This is very interesting and helpful to me - thank you!
> I'm the buddhist in the bunch, and I just had to tell you FYI, since
> you have thought about this subject, that I have recently learned
> that a central and very advanced practice in some Tibetan schools is
> what they call "trekchod," which is a ritual visualizing of the
> chopping up of one's body and giving it away... I am not initiated
> in this practice so I don't know details, but there's a little
> ritual knife that is used in the visualization - no physical
> cutting, though! I think it's called a phurba.

Wow. If I had a dream like this I think I'd be disturbed by it--unless maybe I was terminally ill...giving it away to anyone in particular, or for any specific purpose, I wonder?

> By the way, my self-dep tweaks me to say that I hope I'm not being a
> boring dud bringing up all this buddhist talk, but I somehow intuit
> that religious issues and affiliations have been a running theme
> throughout many of my incarnations. I "recall" or am deluding
> myself into thinking that I was previously a nun about 600 years or
> so ago, and a Roman priest (and he was an unhappy and twisted
> character) during the late days of the empire. I was also probably
> a young teenage Jewish girl in Spain at the time of the Inquisition
> - one of the "lucky" ones who left on a ship and traveled to Turkey
> perhaps. These are strong impressions that I am not yet clear if
> they are projections on my part or what. They don't go away,
> though. In this lifetime I was born in Cuba and had to leave my
> homeland at age 9 with my nuclear family (leaving the extended
> family behind), to start a new life in the US. Talk about sacrifice. Ugh.

Funny, but I was thinking about this just this morning. I thought to go into the archive to see what had been hashed out about the fourth Yarbro book _Michael for the Millenium_, in which some of these past-life "running theme" ideas are discussed. [Aside to anyone: I see her new St. Germain book is out--are these any good or of particular interest to Michael students?] Unfortunately, the last third of MFTM is an unreadable litany of the lifetimes of seven fragments--one example from each essence role. (IMHO, etc.) What I find disappointing is that it's without commentary from Michael to help point out themes and conflicts the fragments wrestled with from life to life, and how they can inflect on one another. (Compare Charles Breaux's excellent _The Way of Karma_ for how this can be done effectively.) It can be very difficult to accept these memories as "true," yes, but I don't think truth is really the issue. Delusions or not, your recurring past life "memories" are psychic facts, and should be given the attention they deserve--presuming you feel called and equipped to do so.

I remember, while reading Breaux's book, I imagined I traveled back to the death of an incarnation of mine. He was a French soldier, lying in a cold and muddy battlefield with a deep blade wound to the abdomen. He/I was terrified, of course, but without chance of any recovery. Well, you all know the drill: I assisted his spirit out of his body, embraced him in a warm and loving light, and explained to him as best I could exactly what was going on and what was required of him. (Imagine: when you die, those beings of light who point you towards that tunnel might be some future *you* just out doing some past-life work!) ...Anyway, the nice thing is that, now, if you were to accidentally touch my stomach, I wouldn't flinch like I'd been jabbed with a cattle prod. But Aida, whether or not I was *actually* a wounded French soldier is, in this context, irrelevant. All that can confidently be stated is that it improved the conditions of things in *this* lifetime. And what more do you need?

> I had heard about and tried to understand the concept of sacrifice
> as it's taught in various religions, but it wasn't until I heard
> about the trekchod, and then I read your posting that I felt clear
> about the real value of all this beyond just giving up bad
> habits/addictions or indulging in self-mortification. Now I see it
> more clearly as a way of dropping ballast, leaving a cocoon behind
> after the metamorphosis...

> So - a question: are you a therapist or do you read Neumann for
> your personal edification? I have not read his stuff, nor felt
> compelled to read anything Jungian, though I regard it as valuable.

> OK. Just had to get all that out. Thanks again from another old
> soul, this one probably a slave/server...

> Best wishes.... Aida.
>
> PS, if you like, feel free to post this. I just thought I would
> respond directly to you first. No need to post if you don't want to.

 

Nope, not a therapist. No way. Like the Michael teachings, I just find Jung's to be a helpful conceptual language for experiences that defy such conceptions. That, and certain shared personal characteristics that make it easy for me to relate to his work. Its interesting that you feel yourself to be a server and found resonance with Neumann. I actually had Neumann's chart done: he's an artisan, but with very strong server casting (cadence position, cadence and greater cadence). Small wonder perhaps, that you could relate to a formulation of an ego/essence relationship in which the ego might "submit to the will of [essence] as if it were its own."

Love always,

Dean


Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 15:37:57 -0400
Subject: Mystical Anxiety Response

Nessa Flax wrote:
-----------------

> I've discovered that my own fears of nothingness often
> stemmed from my own expectation that I was required to DO something in the
> presence of that nothingness. Call it mystical-anxiety response, if you
> will. When I surrendered to the idea that there is in "nothingness" the
> presence of the I Am That I Am, I realized all that was asked of me was to
> be present in the Presence. This helped me to be less afraid, knowing that
> some sort of "performance" wasn't expected of me.

per Kenneth
-----------
Hello Nessa,
I appreciate what you wrote in the paragraph above. It put me in mind of the end of one of Carlos Castaneda's books wherein Carlos and some of Don Juan's other students were told to jump off of a cliff blindfolded and at night (if I am remembering correctly). From this memory my mind jumped to the memory of my own first leap of faith, which I remember held a lot of fear for me, but, to this day, I don't recall what it was that I was afraid of, or what the actual situation was. I do remember, however, that after the leap, I stood up and said to myself "Well looky what they got here." That's all I remember, and I've been having great fun ever since. That's really really funny because "looky" just isn't in my normal vocabulary. I'm going to have to take a time trip back to then and see what really happened. Also, I like that term "mystical anxiety response" it appeals to my old scholar soul.

Peace and Light to You and Yours,
Kenneth Broom, Columbia, MD, USA
aka I.A.M. Research


Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 16:24:33 -0400
Subject: Observation Mode Lessons

Kate McMurry wrote:

> The other piece of advice they first gave me,
> somewhere around age 8 or so was that, "If you stand against the wall
> and wait for people to come to you, it will never happen. You have to go
> to them." An interesting bit of advice for a Sage in Observation. <G>

This is one of the heaviest lessons my entity mates kept warning about. They said "Do not linger in the negative pole of the observation mode." Don't let life live you. You "live" life. This turned out to be the most important lesson of my life. To proactively design and create your life keeps you from having to correct so many unintended mistakes.

Peace and Light to You and Yours,
Kenneth Broom, Columbia, MD, USA
aka I.A.M. Research


Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 23:53:06 -0500
Subject: Re: Thanks for this posting quoting Erich Neumann

Hi Dean - some comments...

Posting of Aida's note to mrDean (edited):

> > that a central and very advanced practice in some Tibetan schools is
> > what they call "trekchod," which is a ritual visualizing of the
> > chopping up of one's body and giving it away... I am not initiated
> > in this practice so I don't know details, but there's a little
> > ritual knife that is used in the visualization - no physical
> > cutting, though! I think it's called a phurba.
> >
>
> Wow. If I had a dream like this I think I'd be disturbed by it--unless
> maybe I was terminally ill...giving it away to anyone in particular,
> or for any specific purpose, I wonder?

It's about surrendering one's obsessions and limited definitions of who one IS. It's about realizing one's real center is one's essence and the entity and other spiritual dimensions that are the source and ongoing sustent of our existence, and then, once the meditation is over, reincorporating the recognition of our natural "emptiness," or FORMLESSNESS to our ordinary lives. Like Don Juan Matus says, we are pieces of the sun. We are in reality formless warriors... This is not to say that the body is not important. On the contrary. The teachings also say the body is our most precious gift in this lifetime, and to guard it and care for it, and not to mortify it. Tibetans are big on experiencing life fully, by the way. And they love to laugh, I've found.

> go into the archive to see what had been hashed out about the fourth
> Yarbro book _Michael for the Millenium_, in which some of these
> past-life "running theme" ideas are discussed. [Aside to anyone: I see
> her new St. Germain book is out--are these any good or of particular
> interest to Michael students?] Unfortunately, the last third of MFTM
> is an unreadable litany of the lifetimes of seven fragments--one

So much reading, so little time...

> example from each essence role. (IMHO, etc.) What I find disappointing
> is that it's without commentary from Michael to help point out themes
> and conflicts the fragments wrestled with from life to life, and how
> they can inflect on one another. (Compare Charles Breaux's excellent
> _The Way of Karma_ for how this can be done effectively.) It can be

I'll have to look at this.

> very difficult to accept these memories as "true," yes, but I don't
> think truth is really the issue. Delusions or not, your recurring past
> life "memories" are psychic facts, and should be given the attention
> they deserve--presuming you feel called and equipped to do so.

Yes. I needed to hear that.

> But Aida, whether or not I was *actually* a wounded French soldier is,
> in this context, irrelevant. All that can confidently be stated is that it
> improved the conditions of things in *this* lifetime. And what more do
> you need?

You're right!

> that make it easy for me to relate to his work. Its interesting that
> you feel yourself to be a server and found resonance with Neumann. I
> actually had Neumann's chart done: he's an artisan, but with very
> strong server casting (cadence position, cadence and greater cadence).

I also like Artisans and sometimes function like one - wonder why? Maybe it has to do with my casting? See, I will sometime soon have to have a reading...

> Small wonder perhaps, that you could relate to a formulation of an
> ego/essence relationship in which the ego might "submit to the will of
> [essence] as if it were its own."

I really like this chunk... "as if it were its own" Sometimes I think of Aida as some person with whom I have an important relationship, and that I owe her good care and healing. When I was a child I would "fantasize" that inside my head was a control room, like the cockpit of an airplane, and that inside was the real me, directing Aida like a big living puppet, as she went about her life. Also, I've spent a little time with Tarot cards, and I often drift to thoughts of the Magician card. Directing the Will, tapping into the Higher Will, seems to be a central theme in this lifetime for me. It's behind my interest in intentional spiritual practice.

Thanks again - Aida.


Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 13:35:31 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Michael Conference in November

Hello All,
I have been enjoying the quality of exchange on this list, but not quite finding time to jump in. I thought I'd post this invite to the list to the Michael Conference in November. It should be fun (that's a Sage thing!). I originally thought I wasn't going to go, the whole thing felt flat to me, but as I began to get excited responses to this letter about the conference--even two friends from South Africa will come--I am quickly rethinking my non-participation. It is a great opportunity to meet all the channels.

Blessings to you all.
Joya Pope

Dear Friend,

Exciting things are happening in the Michael community. I'm writing to invite you to attend our first Michael conference ever, on November 8-9, 1997 here in Corte Madera, California. About a dozen Michael channels will be there, with panel discussions, chats with channels and other Michael students, and lots of time for getting acquainted with people you've wanted to connect with.

This conference is the foretaste of good things to come. We're in the process of forming a new membership organization called the Association for Michael Teachings: a great idea that a number of Michael folk came up with on the same day, separately and synchronistically. Already we've formed a Steering Committee, and we're busy planning the November conference and future expansion of the teachings into new venues.

The Association for Michael Teachings is a community-wide Michael membership organization. People can join at different levels: General Membership, $25-30 per year, will give you a quarterly newsletter with articles about the Michael teachings, links to other Michael folk in your area, and news about Michael events all around the globe. Associate membership, $300/year (or $25/month), will give you a subscription to the quarterly newsletter, free ad space for your business or service in the newsletter, an advertising listing through our 800 number and through group ads in new age magazines; plus a mini-page for your business on our Michael-wide web site, 50% discount off the price of any future Michael conference, and a 10% discount on all services and products within the Association (i.e. channeling by any Steering Committee member, or the purchase of any Michael books or tapes we sell). Most Steering Committee members will be contributing books and tapes to the Association "store," so you'll have a great selection to choose from.

If you feel the call, you might think about membership on the Steering Committee, if you have the time and energy. Steering Committee members need to be nominated by at least three other committee members. If you feel you want to be a pathfinder in our new Association and want to contribute in an instrumental way to guide the future of the teachings, contact me or any of the channels participating in the conference (listed on page 2). Your name will come up for nomination at our next Steering Committee meeting. We can use you.

We also need Honored Volunteers from the general membership: people who are dedicated to furthering the teachings, but who may not have the wherewithal to join at the Associate level. Honored volunteers will be active in helping get our many projects up and moving, and in most cases you can work by phone or computer right out of your home. We might need you to help us get a mailing out, for instance; or do some email work. We might need you to help with community outreach, or contacting people in mass media, advertising, publishing, the law, or finance. If you're coming to the conference, we can use you in registration, setting up the conference room on Saturday morning, or in shuttling visitors to and from the airport. If you live in the Bay Area and have a spare room, you can help by allowing a visitor to stay at your house during the conference. Any and all help is welcome now at the beginning stages. The best benefit is that you'll be working with people in the Michael community: a great way to get to know everyone, and to be known yourself. The conference fee is $150, which covers two days of intensive immersion in the teachings, new information not available anywhere else, free sample channelings and personal chats with all channels, and lots of connection with other Michael students, all in one spot. So far, channels who have signed on to participate are (in alphabetical order by first name) Aaron Christeaan, Alma Perez, Emily Baumbach (me), Holly Coleman, Jose Stevens, Joya Pope, JP Van Hulle, Kay Heatherly, Kay Kamala, Lena Stevens, Sarah Chambers, Steve Cocconi, and Victoria Marina. Each of us has our specialties, and we'll be talking about our work at a special session on Saturday morning of the conference.

Here are the particulars:

 

Location: Best Western Corte Madera Inn
1815 Redwood Highway
Corte Madera, CA
(It's right next to the Hwy 101 freeway in Marin County, north of San Francisco)
(800) 777-9670 or (415) 924-1502

 

Rooms: Make your reservation before September 15 and mention that you're attending the "AMT Conference" to get the special group rates below. Reservations made after September 15 will be at the normal hotel rates.

 

1 bed / 1 person $80
1 bed / 2 persons $90
2 beds / 2 persons $90
Deluxe suite $89 plus (ask the Corte Madera Inn for details)

Guests make and guarantee their own reservations. 10% room tax added.

 

Parking: Park anywhere around the hotel except in Max's Restaurant parking lot, which is part of the hotel. Max's needs all their spaces for restaurant clientele. Thanks.

 

Conference fee: $150 for two days: Saturday, November 8; Sunday, November 9. Conference schedule will be announced in September or October. Includes free open channeling sessions with all channels, panels on new information in the Michael teachings and on other pertinent topics, get-acquainted times and other Michael events.

For more information, call me at 501 575-0019, write me at the address on the letterhead. Or, feel free to contact Kay Kamala in Novato, California at (415) 883-7025. She's on the Steering Committee and has been coordinating the conference room reservations, so she's a great source of information. You can also contact any of the Steering Committee members listed at the top of this page, all of whom are actively involved in getting our conference and our new Association for Michael Teachings up and rolling.

I hope you can come. It's going to be great fun, and a milestone event you'll remember always.

Thanks,

Joya Pope
Michael Channel - Readings for the Mind, Heart and Soul
Author of "Upcoming Changes" and "The World According to Michael; An Old Soul's Guide to the Universe"
<mailto:joyapope@.com>
photo, clips, info http://www.spiritweb.org/michael-teachings/joya.html

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
 


Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 11:14:40 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: Michael Conference in November

On 20 Aug 1997 JoyaPope@.com wrote:

> Hello All,
> I have been enjoying the quality of exchange on this list, but not quite
> finding time to jump in. I thought I'd post this invite to the list to the
> Michael Conference in November. It should be fun (that's a Sage thing!). I
> originally thought I wasn't going to go, the whole thing felt flat to me, but
> as I began to get excited responses to this letter about the conference--even
> two friends from South Africa will come--I am quickly rethinking my
> non-participation. It is a great opportunity to meet all the channels.
>
> Blessings to you all.
> Joya Pope

Hi Joya! Thank you for posting this to the list--I wasn't sure when you sent it to me if I should pass it on. I really hope you're going to be there! I'm planning to go and would love to meet you (and everyone on this list as well)!

BTW: Seems the web-pages for members.spiritweb.org haven't been working the past few days, so if you need to see anything from them I still have a version at this address (but not for much longer as I'll be switching ISP's soon): http://www.crl.com/~lorazz/michael.html .... They are a slight bit outdated already.

Love,
Lori


Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 13:46:49 -0400
Subject: Re: Teachers Open Letter

Barbra Skowronski wrote:

> PS: (Giggle)You never did answer my question about the overleaves. Are ours  connected? How do you define my energy in terms of the Michael Teachings.
> Just Interested. You have always been so accurate in your assessment of me
> to this point,I am wondering what you see in this regard.

Apparently we are members of the same entity. (I just got a nice warm fuzzy feeling as I wrote this.) No karmic ties or threads or agreements that I can perceive. Just a deep desire to be as helpful as possible to each other and the entity without creating any new karma for the entity.

Below is my sense of your overleaves along with mine.

Barbra Kenneth
Level: 6th Level 5th - 7th Level
Age: Old Old
Essence: Warrior Scholar
Mode: Perseverance Observation
Goal: Growth Acceptance
Attitude: Pragmatist Idealist
Center: Moving Part of Emotional Intellectual Part of Emotional
(easy access to higher centers)
Chief Feature: Stubbornness Impatience
                        

 

One of my best friends has a goal of growth. Geez, I don't know how you two can do it. I "love" peace and quiet. You two seem to usually be in the middle of some kind of heavy duty growth situation. If there is no heavy growth situation readily available you'll try create it.

From Joya Pope's Book:
----------------------

6th Level
---------
In Mature and Old sixth level lifetimes, you piece together the experiences of the prior levels and start handling obligations incurred along the way. This means accumulated karmic debts get paid back through numerous, intense, nearly overfilled sixth level lives. A person will likely have trouble after hard luck and be at wits end from all the calamitous action coming her way. These sixth level catch-up lives are a difficult and demanding group, usually taking longer to complete than any other level. As an Old Soul, these lives are truly the last chance for all karmic completions, some of which have been avoided for dozens upon dozens of lifetimes. Think about what's been jammed into these sixth level lives: Elizabeth Taylor, Timothy Leary, Norman Mailer, Rajneesh, Jeremy Rifkin, Deng Xiaoping and Patti Davis. Joe Kennedy II, who now holds an elective office, is a Mature sixth level Sage likely to have a lot of news-making incidents occurring in his life. While Old Soul Chico Mendes paid with his life this time, Ram Dass and Yogi Bhajan appear to have completed the last of their sixth level karmas, enabling them to move on to the comfort of seventh level.

Peace and Light to You and Yours,
Kenneth Broom, Columbia, MD, USA
aka I.A.M. Research


Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 15:43:10 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Teachers Open Letter

Boweye! Batting 100. Let's give the man a cigar.
Blessed Be.
Lady Athena

PS: There is an aspect of priestess/shaman liked to the warrioress. It is only recently that I actively embraced the warrioress aspect within myself and came to terms with it.
Love your insight.
Will post new update on mother after 11pm or 2300 hrs. tonight.

Institute for Shamanic Studies and Vibrational Medicine
D. Barbra Skowronski
Athena


Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 13:53:56 -0700

Kenneth
Perhaps you can enlighten me. I am a 6th level old soul, Priest with a growth goal-power mode-skeptic attitude-emotional center-intellectual trap & arrogant chief feature. I have spent most of this lifetime 'finishing up' old relationships, blessing & releasing them along the way.
I feel I'm moving into the 7th level. What can I expect?
Sheri


Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 18:06:39 -0400
Subject: Sheri Casey's Overleaves

Sheri Casey wrote:

> Kenneth
> Perhaps you can enlighten me. I am a 6th level old soul, Priest with a
> growth goal-power mode-skeptic attitude-emotional center-intellectual
> trap & arrogant chief feature. I have spent most of this lifetime
> 'finishing up' old relationships, blessing & releasing them along the
> way. I feel I'm moving into the 7th level. What can I expect?

Maybe less arrogance.

More goal of growth, only different.

Learning lessons the hard way is part of the goal of growth.
The "hard way" will not change.
Only the nature of the lessons will change.

More finishing up. More ease. Maybe more fun. :-)#

Each polarity of each Chief Feature is based on a fear. What do you think your fear is? Can you recognize it/them?

I cannot enlighten anyone. You must do that for yourself.

Peace and Light to You and Yours,
Kenneth Broom, Columbia, MD, USA
aka I.A.M. Research


Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 16:08:44 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Kenneth's enlightenment

On 20 Aug 1997, Kenneth Broom wrote:

> I cannot enlighten anyone. You must do that for yourself.

Hi Kenneth,

I think that indirectly, you do enlighten people, because you act as a catalyst--a catalyst is something that changes one substance to another by lowering the activation energy it takes for a natural reaction to occur, and speeds up the process. The catalyst is only indirectly involved in the reaction, but without its presence the reaction would take so much energy to occur that it might not happen for a very long time. (OK, that's my scientist's definition--studied a lot about these things in chemistry in college--but, I've come to see its deeper metaphysical meaning as well.) So, you provide for people a different way. When they see a problem that looks to them like a huge cliff they would take much time and energy to climb and get over, you can step in, and you show them a little pile of dirt they can quickly walk over, and arrive in the same place, faster, and without as much effort! So in this way, you assist in people's enlightening process, in their natural growth.... Look at the results. :^)
Love,
Lori


Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 10:46:25 -0400
Subject: Re: Your Overleaves

Danielle Pestalozzi wrote:

> Dear Kenneth,
>
> (see my arms extending over the Atlantic Ocean to give you a big hug*)
> Yes, what you have found out about my overleaves feels absolutely
> correct! Thank you for your effort. It didn't occur to me that I was
> in the power mode, because for the greater part of my life I have been
> experiencing utter powerlessness. I couldn't get anything to work the
> way I wanted. At the age of 33 I was totally burned out and I was
> forced to surrender totally. That's when I started healing and by the
> age of 36 I was completely free of pain and other problems. Since then
> my life has been a piece of cake (almost unreal). Everything which used
> to be complicated in my life has settled into a state of simplicity.
> The only problem I feel I need to overcome is that I am almost ashamed
> of my good life, especially because I am still at an age (39) where
> society expects performance.

-----
per Kenneth:

Danielle, it seems like you were right on schedule in the out-picturing of your overleaves.

At age 35 I dropped a very successful 15-year engineering career and started doing what I wanted to do, the way I wanted to do, when I wanted to do. From driving a taxi cab full time, to being a maintenance person at a spiritual retreat center, to selling mutual funds, to delivering packages in a five-state area, to selling metaphysical books and being an astrologer/spiritual counselor, to being a family paralegal, to being homeless, to being a cost estimator for an electrical contractor, back around to being a free-lance computer consultant. To tell you the truth it been a real blast. I loved all of it. Oh, I forgot. All along the way I was absorbing books, classes, seminars, knowledge, teachings, anything I could put into what I called my synthesis machine. I was determined to churn out my own understanding of how the universe works. and I did. and I am still doing this.

My main point here is that I was doing what I wanted to do the way I wanted to do when I wanted. Regardless of what others expected of me. and there were a lot of expectations, believe me. The only times my life has gotten complicated was on three occasions when I let myself become too entangled in the lives of three close friends who had asked me for my help. Other than those three incidents. My life has been fairly smoothe and satisfying and quietly growthful. (despite the periodic depressions and wanting to go back "home")

> But even if I don't overcome this problem,
> age will take care of it (at 60 people will stop linking my value for
> society to a professional carreer).

Maybe they're already learning from you. How to be happy without struggling their way.

> I think a lot about the legacy I want to leave to the world, about how I
> would like to be remembered. So far I can't think of anything grand I
> feel worth doing. I even have fantasies about leaving without anybody
> noticing and leaving no traces at all, which I find oddly exciting.

Danielle, just your being here is a grand something and worth the being and the doing. Don't you think so?

The idea of having been here, done my life work thing, and then having left with no one ever having noticed me also seems oddly fascinating to me. I find a great power and satisfaction in being anonymous and invisible at will. I think this is part of being an old scholar.

> That seems to be my idea of a perfect completion. The only thing I feel
> pleasure in doing is passing on my knowledge to certain individuals who
> feel drawn to me.

Also part of being an old scholar. Now, notice the nature of the doors that are beginning to be opened to you. Notice the question askers. and their agenda. Are they asking you questions that you haven't yet asked? The members of the lists here that I am a member of are very helpful in posing questions that I did not know that I already knew the answers to. An inquisitory method of teaching and learning rather than an expository method.

And... and... try blessing and teaching and counseling your other selves in your other incarnations. I think they would appreciate it.

> [clipped]

Peace and Light to You and Yours,
Kenneth Broom, Columbia, MD, USA
aka I.A.M. Research


Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 11:53:14 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Digest No. 1997-08-21 of Michael Teachings List

In response to Ken's comment he didn'nt enlighten people -- that they must enlighten themselves, Lori wrote

>>>>I think that indirectly, you do enlighten people, because you act as a catalyst. So in this way, you assist in people's enlightening process, in their natural growth<<<

From an old priest's perspective, I believe that people inherently already have the ability to heal themselves of whatever is happening in their lives. What they often need more than anything else is encouragement that they are OK and a "safe place" where they can explore options, rather than someone telling them what to do. That's one of the beauties of the Michael Teachings and Michael constantly reminds us to use our own abilities to guide us to discover our own truths.

When people want help (whether through directly asking or "sending their thoughts out there") they draw to them people and situations to provide that help. Their personal energy acts as a gigantic magnet to draw those things to them that will help them -- whether individuals or knowledge or whatever.

They then have the ability to use those to "enlighten" themselves.

Barbara Taylor


Date: Sun, 24 Aug 1997 18:06:28 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Various and Finally Got Here!

Dear All -- I've just read most of the archives and have a zillion comments that want to be made to various people, which I'll do when and if I can remember them!

Firstly....I have the eccentric compulsion to never use the automatic re-quoting feature of e-mail. Please forgive me if I don't do that. This isn't academia or science or math (with one exception!) and no one's livelihood depends on our rigorously showing endless lines of old stuff. It's just very much an old soul preference of mine not to spend thousands of mouse clicks and loads of time and space slogging through dead energy. It's usually unnecessary. I can always briefly say something like: To Hortensia: about the situation with the cat who eats flowers.... without quoting 50 lines of cat eating flowers story that the reader will remember anyway. Sorry to take your time with this lecture. Know that I rarely lecture people!

I am yet another old scholar with strong priest casting. (2nd or 3rd old, warrior ET, discrimination, perseverance, realist, intel./moving, 3/3 cadre/entity by Shepherd's numbering.) I also got my exposure to the subject with Shepherd. Seth Cohn and Fay Goldie were about the first other people I met some years back who really felt like soul family; now I've met a lot.

To Kate and others: something I've said oh, so often to the people on the Michael board in AOL: theorize all you want, get numbers however you like, but there's no real way to verify casting numbers and other such subtleties. You have to deal with people in the here and now, make your choices here and now, and that is easier if you aren't intellectually tied in knots trying to figure out what in theory you should do. Likewise with other people's overleaves, or astrological charts: better to be, and make choices, in the here and now as it is without choking self with theoretical considerations.

Sometimes I think the 1973-4-5 original Michael group with Sarah Chambers et al went astray by rather quickly skipping through soul ages -- a vastly useful and important subject, if they only had explored it in depth, alas -- to get bogged down for years in nuances of personality overleaves and their interactions. I think they got too hung up in an arcane specialty. People keep overlooking the whole main point of Michael's teachings on overleaves, which is not how to learn to tell what other people's are, but **to know one's own and learn to transform negative pole to positive.**

To those with depression: the simplicity of it is that it is "old soul disease" made acute. Old soul disease is the syndrome of : No one understands me (because I'm different, or older soul, or whatever words we had for it) and so I have no one to really talk to and share my pain with, and it's a miserable lonely place, and an intolerable situation. Telling your story to a younger soul who does not understand your soul age is mediocre therapy. When you know the other person truly understands, healing occurs.

The obvious remedy is to make connection with other old souls. One of the most useful things we can do with the idea of soul ages is to patch up the many old souls who are suffering from their loneliness so they can connect, do whatever they're here for, and live in joy. That includes you, too, Seth!

I welcome personal replies.

All the best, and much love to all soul buddies, Ed


Date: Sun, 24 Aug 1997 18:13:51 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Meta Syn = Ed Hamerstrom

If I can figure out how to get my name to appear, it will.

Meta Syn is short for Metaphysical Synthesis, and you could also say it's "beyond, together". I had to choose a screen name for AOL when I joined up and eventually this one came along, and I didn't even realize it was a great pun, too!

All the best, Ed


Date: Sun, 24 Aug 1997 17:43:17 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: Re: Meta Syn = Ed Hamerstrom

On 24 Aug 1997 MetaSyn@aol.com wrote:

> If I can figure out how to get my name to appear, it will.
>
> Meta Syn is short for Metaphysical Synthesis, and you could also say it's
> "beyond, together". I had to choose a screen name for AOL when I joined up
> and eventually this one came along, and I didn't even realize it was a great
> pun, too!
>
> All the best, Ed

Hey Ed! Welcome to the list!

Ed is another old buddy of mine, another scholar groupie of Shepherd Hoodwin's, and a real nice guy...

Love,
Seth


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