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Date: Sun, 17 Aug 1997 23:08:06 -0700 Hi Aida, all, Aida wrote: <snippage>
I would recommend this book as well. I've bought most of my Michael books online through the MEF at http://www.spiritguide.com They are very nice there and great to deal with, offering fast, personalized service. <more snippage>
I think that you would not be disappointed if you had even one short session with a good channel. In 30 minutes you could get your role, overleaves, centering and soul age done, and possibly more. There are a number of them available over the Internet - that's how I found mine. I can't express how glad I am that I had that first channeling (and the many subsequent ones.) A less expensive alternative is to find a channel in your area who holds public group sessions, usually monthly. These are very fun and informative and I think that all of them answer personal questions after the topic for the evening has been covered. It's also a great way to get together with other Michael people - people with whom you share a special bond. I've met some wonderful people and even some Entity mates that way.
I'm learning to channel Michael but not yet ready to give it a try - sorry! Perhaps someone else on the list?
For those interested, Michael's take (a very short version) on angels can be found on Tricia Sullivan's web site at http://pw2.netcom.com/~dlstas/Movies.html (My feelings exactly Michael!)
Yep! "Emoticons".
IMO = "in my opinion". You may also see it as IMHO, "in my humble opinion". BTW = "by the way".
OK, here's a fellow Server heard from. Server/Warrior with Scholar casting to be exact!
Hope this is helpful Aida! Take care all, Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 09:15:10 +0000 Posting of Aida's note to mrDean (edited):
Wow. If I had a dream like this I think I'd be disturbed by it--unless maybe I was terminally ill...giving it away to anyone in particular, or for any specific purpose, I wonder?
Funny, but I was thinking about this just this morning. I thought to go into the archive to see what had been hashed out about the fourth Yarbro book _Michael for the Millenium_, in which some of these past-life "running theme" ideas are discussed. [Aside to anyone: I see her new St. Germain book is out--are these any good or of particular interest to Michael students?] Unfortunately, the last third of MFTM is an unreadable litany of the lifetimes of seven fragments--one example from each essence role. (IMHO, etc.) What I find disappointing is that it's without commentary from Michael to help point out themes and conflicts the fragments wrestled with from life to life, and how they can inflect on one another. (Compare Charles Breaux's excellent _The Way of Karma_ for how this can be done effectively.) It can be very difficult to accept these memories as "true," yes, but I don't think truth is really the issue. Delusions or not, your recurring past life "memories" are psychic facts, and should be given the attention they deserve--presuming you feel called and equipped to do so. I remember, while reading Breaux's book, I imagined I traveled back to the death of an incarnation of mine. He was a French soldier, lying in a cold and muddy battlefield with a deep blade wound to the abdomen. He/I was terrified, of course, but without chance of any recovery. Well, you all know the drill: I assisted his spirit out of his body, embraced him in a warm and loving light, and explained to him as best I could exactly what was going on and what was required of him. (Imagine: when you die, those beings of light who point you towards that tunnel might be some future *you* just out doing some past-life work!) ...Anyway, the nice thing is that, now, if you were to accidentally touch my stomach, I wouldn't flinch like I'd been jabbed with a cattle prod. But Aida, whether or not I was *actually* a wounded French soldier is, in this context, irrelevant. All that can confidently be stated is that it improved the conditions of things in *this* lifetime. And what more do you need?
Nope, not a therapist. No way. Like the Michael teachings, I just find Jung's to be a helpful conceptual language for experiences that defy such conceptions. That, and certain shared personal characteristics that make it easy for me to relate to his work. Its interesting that you feel yourself to be a server and found resonance with Neumann. I actually had Neumann's chart done: he's an artisan, but with very strong server casting (cadence position, cadence and greater cadence). Small wonder perhaps, that you could relate to a formulation of an ego/essence relationship in which the ego might "submit to the will of [essence] as if it were its own." Love always, Dean Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 15:37:57 -0400 Nessa Flax wrote:
per Kenneth Peace and Light to You and Yours, Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 16:24:33 -0400 Kate McMurry wrote:
This is one of the heaviest lessons my entity mates kept warning about. They said "Do not linger in the negative pole of the observation mode." Don't let life live you. You "live" life. This turned out to be the most important lesson of my life. To proactively design and create your life keeps you from having to correct so many unintended mistakes. Peace and Light to You and Yours, Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 23:53:06 -0500 Hi Dean - some comments... Posting of Aida's note to mrDean (edited):
It's about surrendering one's obsessions and limited definitions of who one IS. It's about realizing one's real center is one's essence and the entity and other spiritual dimensions that are the source and ongoing sustent of our existence, and then, once the meditation is over, reincorporating the recognition of our natural "emptiness," or FORMLESSNESS to our ordinary lives. Like Don Juan Matus says, we are pieces of the sun. We are in reality formless warriors... This is not to say that the body is not important. On the contrary. The teachings also say the body is our most precious gift in this lifetime, and to guard it and care for it, and not to mortify it. Tibetans are big on experiencing life fully, by the way. And they love to laugh, I've found.
So much reading, so little time...
I'll have to look at this.
Yes. I needed to hear that.
You're right!
I also like Artisans and sometimes function like one - wonder why? Maybe it has to do with my casting? See, I will sometime soon have to have a reading...
I really like this chunk... "as if it were its own" Sometimes I think of Aida as some person with whom I have an important relationship, and that I owe her good care and healing. When I was a child I would "fantasize" that inside my head was a control room, like the cockpit of an airplane, and that inside was the real me, directing Aida like a big living puppet, as she went about her life. Also, I've spent a little time with Tarot cards, and I often drift to thoughts of the Magician card. Directing the Will, tapping into the Higher Will, seems to be a central theme in this lifetime for me. It's behind my interest in intentional spiritual practice. Thanks again - Aida. Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 13:35:31 -0400 (EDT) Hello All, Blessings to you all. Dear Friend, Exciting things are happening in the Michael community. I'm writing to invite you to attend our first Michael conference ever, on November 8-9, 1997 here in Corte Madera, California. About a dozen Michael channels will be there, with panel discussions, chats with channels and other Michael students, and lots of time for getting acquainted with people you've wanted to connect with. This conference is the foretaste of good things to come. We're in the process of forming a new membership organization called the Association for Michael Teachings: a great idea that a number of Michael folk came up with on the same day, separately and synchronistically. Already we've formed a Steering Committee, and we're busy planning the November conference and future expansion of the teachings into new venues. The Association for Michael Teachings is a community-wide Michael membership organization. People can join at different levels: General Membership, $25-30 per year, will give you a quarterly newsletter with articles about the Michael teachings, links to other Michael folk in your area, and news about Michael events all around the globe. Associate membership, $300/year (or $25/month), will give you a subscription to the quarterly newsletter, free ad space for your business or service in the newsletter, an advertising listing through our 800 number and through group ads in new age magazines; plus a mini-page for your business on our Michael-wide web site, 50% discount off the price of any future Michael conference, and a 10% discount on all services and products within the Association (i.e. channeling by any Steering Committee member, or the purchase of any Michael books or tapes we sell). Most Steering Committee members will be contributing books and tapes to the Association "store," so you'll have a great selection to choose from. If you feel the call, you might think about membership on the Steering Committee, if you have the time and energy. Steering Committee members need to be nominated by at least three other committee members. If you feel you want to be a pathfinder in our new Association and want to contribute in an instrumental way to guide the future of the teachings, contact me or any of the channels participating in the conference (listed on page 2). Your name will come up for nomination at our next Steering Committee meeting. We can use you. We also need Honored Volunteers from the general membership: people who are dedicated to furthering the teachings, but who may not have the wherewithal to join at the Associate level. Honored volunteers will be active in helping get our many projects up and moving, and in most cases you can work by phone or computer right out of your home. We might need you to help us get a mailing out, for instance; or do some email work. We might need you to help with community outreach, or contacting people in mass media, advertising, publishing, the law, or finance. If you're coming to the conference, we can use you in registration, setting up the conference room on Saturday morning, or in shuttling visitors to and from the airport. If you live in the Bay Area and have a spare room, you can help by allowing a visitor to stay at your house during the conference. Any and all help is welcome now at the beginning stages. The best benefit is that you'll be working with people in the Michael community: a great way to get to know everyone, and to be known yourself. The conference fee is $150, which covers two days of intensive immersion in the teachings, new information not available anywhere else, free sample channelings and personal chats with all channels, and lots of connection with other Michael students, all in one spot. So far, channels who have signed on to participate are (in alphabetical order by first name) Aaron Christeaan, Alma Perez, Emily Baumbach (me), Holly Coleman, Jose Stevens, Joya Pope, JP Van Hulle, Kay Heatherly, Kay Kamala, Lena Stevens, Sarah Chambers, Steve Cocconi, and Victoria Marina. Each of us has our specialties, and we'll be talking about our work at a special session on Saturday morning of the conference. Here are the particulars:
Location: Best Western Corte Madera Inn
Rooms: Make your reservation before September 15 and mention that you're
attending the "AMT Conference" to get the special group rates below.
Reservations made after September 15 will be at the normal hotel rates.
1 bed / 1 person $80 Parking: Park anywhere around the hotel except in Max's Restaurant parking lot, which is part of the hotel. Max's needs all their spaces for restaurant clientele. Thanks.
Conference fee: $150 for two days: Saturday, November 8; Sunday, November 9. Conference schedule will be announced in September or October. Includes free open channeling sessions with all channels, panels on new information in the Michael teachings and on other pertinent topics, get-acquainted times and other Michael events. For more information, call me at 501 575-0019, write me at the address on the letterhead. Or, feel free to contact Kay Kamala in Novato, California at (415) 883-7025. She's on the Steering Committee and has been coordinating the conference room reservations, so she's a great source of information. You can also contact any of the Steering Committee members listed at the top of this page, all of whom are actively involved in getting our conference and our new Association for Michael Teachings up and rolling. I hope you can come. It's going to be great fun, and a milestone event you'll remember always. Thanks, Joya Pope ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 11:14:40 -0700 (PDT) On 20 Aug 1997 JoyaPope@.com wrote:
Hi Joya! Thank you for posting this to the list--I wasn't sure when you sent it to me if I should pass it on. I really hope you're going to be there! I'm planning to go and would love to meet you (and everyone on this list as well)! BTW: Seems the web-pages for members.spiritweb.org haven't been working the past few days, so if you need to see anything from them I still have a version at this address (but not for much longer as I'll be switching ISP's soon): http://www.crl.com/~lorazz/michael.html .... They are a slight bit outdated already. Love, Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 13:46:49 -0400 Barbra Skowronski wrote: > PS: (Giggle)You never did answer my question about the overleaves. Are ours connected? How do you define my energy in terms of the Michael Teachings. Apparently we are members of the same entity. (I just got a nice warm fuzzy feeling as I wrote this.) No karmic ties or threads or agreements that I can perceive. Just a deep desire to be as helpful as possible to each other and the entity without creating any new karma for the entity. Below is my sense of your overleaves along with mine.
One of my best friends has a goal of growth. Geez, I don't know how you two can do it. I "love" peace and quiet. You two seem to usually be in the middle of some kind of heavy duty growth situation. If there is no heavy growth situation readily available you'll try create it. From Joya Pope's Book:
Peace and Light to You and Yours, Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 15:43:10 -0400 (EDT) Boweye! Batting 100. Let's give the man a cigar. PS: There is an aspect of priestess/shaman liked to the warrioress. It is
only recently that I actively embraced the warrioress aspect within myself and
came to terms with it. Institute for Shamanic Studies and Vibrational Medicine Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 13:53:56 -0700 Kenneth Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 18:06:39 -0400 Sheri Casey wrote:
Maybe less arrogance. More goal of growth, only different. Learning lessons the hard way is part of the goal of growth. More finishing up. More ease. Maybe more fun. :-)# Each polarity of each Chief Feature is based on a fear. What do you think your fear is? Can you recognize it/them? I cannot enlighten anyone. You must do that for yourself. Peace and Light to You and Yours, Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 16:08:44 -0700 (PDT) On 20 Aug 1997, Kenneth Broom wrote:
Hi Kenneth, I think that indirectly, you do enlighten people, because you act as a
catalyst--a catalyst is something that changes one substance to another by
lowering the activation energy it takes for a natural reaction to occur, and
speeds up the process. The catalyst is only indirectly involved in the reaction,
but without its presence the reaction would take so much energy to occur that it
might not happen for a very long time. (OK, that's my scientist's
definition--studied a lot about these things in chemistry in college--but, I've
come to see its deeper metaphysical meaning as well.) So, you provide for people
a different way. When they see a problem that looks to them like a huge cliff
they would take much time and energy to climb and get over, you can step in, and
you show them a little pile of dirt they can quickly walk over, and arrive in
the same place, faster, and without as much effort! So in this way, you assist
in people's enlightening process, in their natural growth.... Look at the
results. :^) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 10:46:25 -0400 Danielle Pestalozzi wrote:
----- Danielle, it seems like you were right on schedule in the out-picturing of your overleaves. At age 35 I dropped a very successful 15-year engineering career and started doing what I wanted to do, the way I wanted to do, when I wanted to do. From driving a taxi cab full time, to being a maintenance person at a spiritual retreat center, to selling mutual funds, to delivering packages in a five-state area, to selling metaphysical books and being an astrologer/spiritual counselor, to being a family paralegal, to being homeless, to being a cost estimator for an electrical contractor, back around to being a free-lance computer consultant. To tell you the truth it been a real blast. I loved all of it. Oh, I forgot. All along the way I was absorbing books, classes, seminars, knowledge, teachings, anything I could put into what I called my synthesis machine. I was determined to churn out my own understanding of how the universe works. and I did. and I am still doing this. My main point here is that I was doing what I wanted to do the way I wanted to do when I wanted. Regardless of what others expected of me. and there were a lot of expectations, believe me. The only times my life has gotten complicated was on three occasions when I let myself become too entangled in the lives of three close friends who had asked me for my help. Other than those three incidents. My life has been fairly smoothe and satisfying and quietly growthful. (despite the periodic depressions and wanting to go back "home")
Maybe they're already learning from you. How to be happy without struggling their way.
Danielle, just your being here is a grand something and worth the being and the doing. Don't you think so? The idea of having been here, done my life work thing, and then having left with no one ever having noticed me also seems oddly fascinating to me. I find a great power and satisfaction in being anonymous and invisible at will. I think this is part of being an old scholar.
Also part of being an old scholar. Now, notice the nature of the doors that are beginning to be opened to you. Notice the question askers. and their agenda. Are they asking you questions that you haven't yet asked? The members of the lists here that I am a member of are very helpful in posing questions that I did not know that I already knew the answers to. An inquisitory method of teaching and learning rather than an expository method. And... and... try blessing and teaching and counseling your other selves in your other incarnations. I think they would appreciate it. > [clipped] Peace and Light to You and Yours, Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 11:53:14 -0400 (EDT) In response to Ken's comment he didn'nt enlighten people -- that they must enlighten themselves, Lori wrote
From an old priest's perspective, I believe that people inherently already have the ability to heal themselves of whatever is happening in their lives. What they often need more than anything else is encouragement that they are OK and a "safe place" where they can explore options, rather than someone telling them what to do. That's one of the beauties of the Michael Teachings and Michael constantly reminds us to use our own abilities to guide us to discover our own truths. When people want help (whether through directly asking or "sending their thoughts out there") they draw to them people and situations to provide that help. Their personal energy acts as a gigantic magnet to draw those things to them that will help them -- whether individuals or knowledge or whatever. They then have the ability to use those to "enlighten" themselves. Barbara Taylor Date: Sun, 24 Aug 1997 18:06:28 -0400 (EDT) Dear All -- I've just read most of the archives and have a zillion comments that want to be made to various people, which I'll do when and if I can remember them! Firstly....I have the eccentric compulsion to never use the automatic re-quoting feature of e-mail. Please forgive me if I don't do that. This isn't academia or science or math (with one exception!) and no one's livelihood depends on our rigorously showing endless lines of old stuff. It's just very much an old soul preference of mine not to spend thousands of mouse clicks and loads of time and space slogging through dead energy. It's usually unnecessary. I can always briefly say something like: To Hortensia: about the situation with the cat who eats flowers.... without quoting 50 lines of cat eating flowers story that the reader will remember anyway. Sorry to take your time with this lecture. Know that I rarely lecture people! I am yet another old scholar with strong priest casting. (2nd or 3rd old, warrior ET, discrimination, perseverance, realist, intel./moving, 3/3 cadre/entity by Shepherd's numbering.) I also got my exposure to the subject with Shepherd. Seth Cohn and Fay Goldie were about the first other people I met some years back who really felt like soul family; now I've met a lot. To Kate and others: something I've said oh, so often to the people on the Michael board in AOL: theorize all you want, get numbers however you like, but there's no real way to verify casting numbers and other such subtleties. You have to deal with people in the here and now, make your choices here and now, and that is easier if you aren't intellectually tied in knots trying to figure out what in theory you should do. Likewise with other people's overleaves, or astrological charts: better to be, and make choices, in the here and now as it is without choking self with theoretical considerations. Sometimes I think the 1973-4-5 original Michael group with Sarah Chambers et al went astray by rather quickly skipping through soul ages -- a vastly useful and important subject, if they only had explored it in depth, alas -- to get bogged down for years in nuances of personality overleaves and their interactions. I think they got too hung up in an arcane specialty. People keep overlooking the whole main point of Michael's teachings on overleaves, which is not how to learn to tell what other people's are, but **to know one's own and learn to transform negative pole to positive.** To those with depression: the simplicity of it is that it is "old soul disease" made acute. Old soul disease is the syndrome of : No one understands me (because I'm different, or older soul, or whatever words we had for it) and so I have no one to really talk to and share my pain with, and it's a miserable lonely place, and an intolerable situation. Telling your story to a younger soul who does not understand your soul age is mediocre therapy. When you know the other person truly understands, healing occurs. The obvious remedy is to make connection with other old souls. One of the most useful things we can do with the idea of soul ages is to patch up the many old souls who are suffering from their loneliness so they can connect, do whatever they're here for, and live in joy. That includes you, too, Seth! I welcome personal replies. All the best, and much love to all soul buddies, Ed Date: Sun, 24 Aug 1997 18:13:51 -0400 (EDT) If I can figure out how to get my name to appear, it will. Meta Syn is short for Metaphysical Synthesis, and you could also say it's "beyond, together". I had to choose a screen name for AOL when I joined up and eventually this one came along, and I didn't even realize it was a great pun, too! All the best, Ed Date: Sun, 24 Aug 1997 17:43:17 -0600 (MDT) On 24 Aug 1997 MetaSyn@aol.com wrote:
Hey Ed! Welcome to the list! Ed is another old buddy of mine, another scholar groupie of Shepherd Hoodwin's, and a real nice guy... Love,
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