<NancyG> Michael, are we ready? We are here Nancy. Let us proceed.

<NancyG> We have you all in our consciousness. You are all part of the energy of the Tao and so of each other. In fact, though you probably do not often consider this, you are part of the energy of the Universe.

Large thoughts require serious attention. There is a memory within each of you about this, although we realize that this is not a conscious memory. As you proceed through the cycle of lives, each time a very small bit of this consciousness follows you in your current incarnation. The moment becomes all encompassing for most fragments, a larger sensation than it warrants, we believe. Lift up your eyes, your minds, your hearts and contemplate the wholeness of creation, not just the tiny speck of this moment.

We understand your perspective, however. We also wore blinders through most of our human lives. We often could not see the forest for the trees, as you say. We couldn't even see the oak for the acorn. That is why we offer to you this idea of deliberately putting yourself into the frame of the whole. And why should this be a Good Work? Because you are spiritual beings on a human path, that is why. You have all experienced many ways of being human and will continue doing so until you have finished your cycle on the physical plane. But to spend most of your time and energy with your eyes and ears glued to the mud of the earth is to miss the glories of your experience with this planet.

Remember that you have chosen this planet as the venue for working through your experience of the physical plane. You did not choose a different solar system, nor a different galaxy. The action of focusing in presupposes the possibility of focusing out. Therefore, take the position that you are both in this moment and a part of the wholeness of every moment that has ever been and ever will be.

This need not be a frightening experience. Each lifetime is composed of both the inner life and the outer one. The inner life is the concern of the higher self and Essence. The outer life is the province of the personality. Within you are free to imagine the greater extent of creation and to rejoice in your connection to it. The outer life is the one most often welded to the moment, to action, whether that be your own action or that of those around you. And we include 'those around you' to mean your families, your neighbors, your states, your globe.

This is not a dichotomy, this inner and outer life. It is the marriage of the human and the spirit. We suggest that the very best marriage gives each partner its fullest freedom to be. With this pattern to know, the way of the physical plane becomes a highway to agape.

<NancyG> We will now take questions.

<DaveGregg> Daniel, you have tonight's first question...

Q & A

<DanielE> My step-father, P., is having some issues with depression. I think this is related to the beginning of the 5th nomad. I did not send you a picture of him… so only if you can get a fix on him… can Michael tell me what’s going on with him and what, if anything, my mother and me can help him with. I have another question if this one does not work.

<NancyG> The fragment Daniel is correct. The man Peter is just beyond the beginning of the 5th internal monad. This is a more frightening experience than even the 4th was for this fragment. He has been in control of his life until now and sees that he will not continue to be as he would wish. This has to do with health that is not what it was, and work that is not what it was.

We cannot suggest anything from the outside that will alleviate his distress. Losing control over areas that he considers his own has produced the state of depression. We wonder if he even understands that he is depressed. We see instead that he accepts that he is angry, but would counter any suggestion that he is depressed and could perhaps use some assistance as another indication of loss of control.

At this time it will seem best to be loving and supportive without allusion to his state. Eventually, perhaps in several months, it may be possible to suggest some of the ideas we have outlined. Until that time, there is little chance that they will be heard.

<DanielE> Right on. thanks Nancy and Michael.
<DaveGregg> Deborah, you're next...

<DeborahD> Could you please tell me if I am currently experiencing a monad or agreement of some sort with my brother, D.? And if we are, are we making any progress? Thank you.

<NancyG> We remind you that monads are experienced as individuals, not with another. But agreements are always made between two or more fragments.

Yes, there is an agreement between the woman Deborah and her brother Dennis. It is one made prior to this incarnation and is based on the need for building a condition of dependency, the brother on the sister. It was known that there would come a time in the lives of both when this need would be expressed. And on the astral, as these lives were being planned, it was easy to say: Of course I will be there for you.

Now, in the realistic situation of the physical plane, this agreement is not so easily acceded to. We suggest patience, kindness, as well as a realistic assessment of what is possible. We remind the woman Deborah that there are always limits to the physical plane. That is one of the key elements of it. Therefore we can offer this suggestion: Do what lies nearest you. This means that which you are emotionally, physically, financially able to do. That is all one can ever promise or deliver. Anything else become martyrdom.

<DeborahD> Ok thanks I will try.
<DaveGregg> Janno, you're next...

<Jannokas85> Hello Nancy and Michael! I haven't sent you the picture, but I would like to ask you about my brother. How are we connected on a soul level? Are we entity mates? Any agreements? Nancy, if you can't get any info on this, then I would like to ask something else.

<NancyG> The man Janno and his brother have agreed to be siblings in this lifetime. They are exploring a new relationship. There is no history between them that has colored this lifetime. The agreement made prior to incarnation was to find out how well suited they are to being related in order to decide whether there will be further connections in later lives. This is a common agreement at this level of soul evolution. The whole of the Mature soul level is concerned with relationships, as many and as varied as possible.

These two men are not entity mates, but are from adjacent entities. Their agreement to join this family is an experiment in reaching out to include a variety of souls.

<Jannokas85> That was really helpful!!! Thank you so much! :)
<DaveGregg> Aditi, you're next...

<aditi> What past lives did Manas and I have together? And do we have any agreements for this lifetime?

<NancyG> There is a close relationship between brother and sister that comes as a result of several connections in past lives. Once these two were sisters, working as a team in the embroidery business. A very successful team, we will add.

Another lifetime, the brother was wife to the sister as husband. Another life, they were cousins, another life they shipped together as sailors on a gravel merchant's scow. As for agreements for this lifetime, none. Only to be together again, experiencing a different kind of togetherness than before.

<aditi> Actually, Manas is not my brother :S...

<NancyG> (Then the brother energy has seeped through fairly strongly. What relationship is Manas to you, Aditi?)

<aditi> Hmm, we are mainly friends.

<NancyG> We can confirm that you were several times brother and sister.

<aditi> but...we definitely have considered being in a relationship before...so i take it, it might not be going down that path?

<NancyG> There is no reason to suppose that prior kinship will abrogate any possibility of mating during this lifetime. This will be a choice. Nothing is graven in stone about this! (Michael is grinning!)

<aditi> Thank you! That helps and clarifies many things:)
<DaveGregg> Kimtpring, you're next...

<kimtpring> Hello Nancy and Greetings Michael! How many lives did I live in Ancient Egypt, specifically were there any lives in what is known as the 18th Dynasty, and are there any fragments incarnate with me now that were with me in any of those lives?

<NancyG> The fragment has had several lives in the Egypt of the ancient world. Most of our students have had. The specific life in question was as a tabulator of temple gifts, an accountant, if you will. Yes, there are fragments throughout our little community who were present during this woman's lifetime. Asking around is one way to ascertain who they might be.

<kimtpring> Whom do I ask?

<NancyG> We suggest you might canvass those present tonight, and going on to the larger members of the community.

<kimtpring> Are there any in my personal circle of friend, family?

<NancyG> No.

<kimtpring> Wow~Thanks so very much. :)
<DaveGregg> AnnH, you're next...

<annh> I just saw the movie "The Duchess." What were the relationships/agreements between Georgiana Spencer Cavendish, Duchess of Devonshire, William Cavendish (her husband, Duke of Devonshire) and the Lady Elizabeth Foster, the Duchess' friend who lived with them and became the Duke's mistress and his second wife? Was Lady Elizabeth the conniver the book made her out to be?

<NancyG> In the production of a work of literature it is often thought that spicing things up with tension concerning personalities is an important ingredient for success. In fact, this was a successful ménage a trois. The two women were publicly friends and privately sharers of the man William. This was not as outré as is commonly thought in the present day.

<annh> That was what I thought. No problem there. Was this a prior agreement?

<NancyG> Yes, this was decided prior to the incarnation of all three. There was also an agreement to establish a decidedly influencial place in the society of the period, an agreement which was carried through, as history shows.

<annh> Thank you.
<DaveGregg> Geraldine, you're next...

<Geraldine> Hello, Nancy and Michael :) Tonight, I'd like to ask a more vague and general question. The so-called Neanderthal lineage of humankind died out without attaining ensoulment. Yet, there have been burials discovered that indicated they believed in an afterlife. This would imply a state of creative consciousness at least at the level of Gorillas. Can you elaborate on Neanderthals?

<NancyG> The Neanderthal creatures achieved a state somewhere between animal and human. And we define human here as an ensouled species.

Ensoulment required certain elements, not only physical ones, but mental ones also. The Neanderthals attained a level of physical success, but in the end were found to be incapable of intellectual growth. That is why the ensoulment of the other species was undertaken. One element necessary for ensoulment on a human level is imagination. This was lacking in the Neanderthals.

There was a sense of the pack, translation: family, if you will, and there was a sense that a death was a severance of one from the pack/family/tribe. There is the same sense of loss exhibited by the pacaderms of this planet, and of some of the great apes. Neither of these species have attained the same level of awareness that the Neanderthals did, but there is a parallel to be considered. Since there was the ability to handle tools, putting the dead down in a caring way was possible. Neither the pacaderms nor the great apes have achieved that facility.

<Geraldine> Thank you . . .I really enjoy expanding the possibilities :)
<DaveGregg> Mario, you're next...

<Mario_Niebles> i wanted to ask about my agreement with my mother, and how it has developed so far. Do I owe her a karma by this moment?

<NancyG> Agreements and Karma are two very different things. An agreement is made by the Self and can be prior to incarnation or after. Karma is a matter of Essence, a part of the experience of the physical plane. There is, however, a karmic element in the relationship. The woman who is presently Mario's mother was a child of the man Mario in a lifetime some centuries ago. This child was deformed, a common condition when there has been too little food for a woman bearing a child. This deformity necessitated a great deal of patience and energy on the part of everyone concerned, but especially of the man Mario. This meant a serious curtailment of his freedom to choose a mate, a life work, an abode.

Because the mother of the deformed child died at its birth, all the work of maintaining it fell to the father, Mario in this life. Therefore, although it is not necessary to return tit for tat in order to burn the karma ribbon, the need to continue caring has colored this lifetime.

This lifetime is a fulfillment of the original one. A continuation, actually. The karma is being burned, as the fragments live through this life. We believe that a sense of release is being generated also. Release for the fragment Mario, release for the woman also. The release is one of the emotions and the spirit. There is still the physical to be appreciated.

<Mario_Niebles> thanks so much!!! :)
<DaveGregg> Barbara H, you're next...

<Barbara_H.> Do I have a karmic debt or agreement with Anthony Blake? I did not send a picture.

<NancyG> The fragment Barbara has no agreement with the man Anthony. There is a residue of karma, created in a lifetime when these two were rival craftsmen in what is now Poland. There was a rivalry that grew into a hatred that encompassed not only the two men but their families and many of the townspeople.

The matter is not important. What is important is that the repayment of the karma is mutual. This is by no means as odd as one might think. There is a sense that karma is 'caused' or 'created' by one fragment against another fragment, and that there for the cause-er must accept that the cause-ee will retaliate at some future time.

In this instance, however, the karma was created by each against the other. Most of it has been repaid in two lifetimes since. It is possible that the last bit will be burned in this lifetime, if the two fragments wish to do so. We believe that a certain tension exists between them and that the fragment Barbara is aware of it. There is no need for both to accept that there is a connection for the dissolution of the ribbon, however. A lack of awareness is no impediment to clearing the decks, so to speak.

<Barbara_H.> thank you so much
<DaveGregg> Karen C, you're next...

<karen_c> Do John and I have an agreement? Can you tell me something about our past lives? Thank you.

<NancyG> Yes, there was an agreement to meet in this lifetime. In past lives the two fragments have explored two relationships: one as cousins, one as co-workers. It was decided during the planning for this lifetime that it would be interesting to try a mating agreement. We wish to remind you all that agreements are NOT karma. They are made by the dozens sometimes and there is no residual energy to 'clean up' if the agreement is abrogated. Most of you will have made a half dozen mating agreements before any one lifetime, some of you many more. But remember, the objects of these agreements are making their own. That is why so many are made: not all will become possible, and sometimes none will come to bear.

<karen_c> It seems to me that the opportunity has passed and circumstances are against it. yet I feel such a strong attraction

<NancyG> Just because the impetus to connect is stronger in one of the two parties than it is in the other, there is no law, personal or universal, that says that the agreement 'must' be honored. That explains the attraction that one may have that is not reciprocated by the other.

<karen_c> thank you!
<DaveGregg> Ekatrina, you're next...

<Ekaterina> Thank you Nancy. I've always had a natural incline towards medicine. My question revolves around a potential career path I have been contemplating for some time now. It is as follows: In this lifetime, am I meant to pursue a career as doctor of naturopathy? If not, what are some alternative career paths I can expect?

<NancyG> If this fragment will remember a very important element of our teachings, we think that she will be able to understand that we do not offer personal, professional, or social advice. Or hardly ever. The important element is: All is choice. All choices are valid.

There is no 'meant' in any part of our teachings. The fragment Ekaterina may have a propensity for a career in homeopathy and if she does, it explains why she is drawn to the practice of it. And if that attraction blossoms into a full-fledged ability to apply this attraction in a positive and productive way, it is very possible that she has discovered a joyful way of working in this world.

We encourage. We do not coerce. Exploration will decide this choice, not the Michael entity. And if exploration proves reassuring, we will rejoice with the fragment that she has found her path.

<Ekaterina> understood. In the future I will avoid questions based on choice. Thank you Nancy and Michael. All the best and good night :)
<DaveGregg> Akira, you're next...

<akira> Hello Nancy and Michaels. My name is H. I'd like to ask if my essence and this personality has any connection to the star Arcturus. In other words, have I inherited anything from my (past) experience in that star system?

<NancyG> Essence has a great many connections that do not impinge on a particular fragment. It is as though each finger of a hand has an extension that is quite separate from each of the others. In other words, even if there is a presence of this fragment's Essence in the Acturus system, it would have no bearing on this fragment. None at all. Each cycle of lives is lived within one planet, unless a whole planetful of fragments must be relocated for some reason. Therefore, the fragment Hao Zhang as a terrestrial personality would have no connection with another star system.

<akira> Then does my essence have presence in Arcturus?

<NancyG> (There is no answer from the Michaels.)

<akira> Thank you Nancy.
<DaveGregg> Capt Tangent, you have the final question...

<CaptainTangent> Thank you in advance. I've just recently found Michael Teachings, and I've been reading a lot into it. This is sort of a two part question, really. Where am I on my path right now? And I've recently been experiencing things within the spiritual realm, are these experiences legitimate?

<NancyG> We will state for this fragment what we have stated many times before: You are exactly where you have decided that you want to be. The path is not a straight highway with markers that tell where one is. The soul level is part of the answer to this question. Since there are five general divisions of evolution of the soul: Infant, Baby, Young, Mature, and Old, and there are 7 levels within each stage, and there are many lifetimes at each level, these are the sign posts that help to determine one's place on the path.

For some, locating that place can be done as a personal expedition through the possibilities. For others, it is a matter of asking a channel for this information. Either way, it is still somewhat of a guess, since there are so many factors being brought to bear in determining the spot one is occupying at the moment in a lifetime. If asked, we consult the Akashic records for this information. This is generally a most reliable source. (Michael is smiling)

As for the 'spiritual' experiences this fragment is having, we would say that they are indeed 'legitimate'. That is to say, they are expressions of the connection the man has with his Higher Self. It often happens that a fragment will connect to Higher Self for the first time when exposed to our teachings. This is because the mind and heart may be working in concert for the first time and this pairing is an open door for touching the Higher Self. So, yes, be not afraid of these experiences. They may not continue as profoundly as they do now, but having opened the door, it will remain a possibility for the future.

Closing Comments

<NancyG> We have come to the end of the questions for you this night. We have roamed with you through relationships, desires, curiosities, and habits. These are the matter of the physical plane. Nowhere else in creation will you be able to explore and experience these elements as you do here on planet earth.

That is the purpose of beginning the journey back to the Tao with a cycle of lives on the physical plane, to experience all that you can here. And that is the purpose of the reality of reincarnation, to provide the opportunity to have as many experiences as possible on the road to agape. During the early levels of this cycle you will create and burn much karma. That is the vehicle for learning, the only way through the physical plane. Those who cry out in distress that they must avoid karma at all costs have not understood their humanity. Only when a great many gives and takes have been accomplished through the earlier levels of the cycle will a fragment settle into the later levels with mostly self-karma to deal with.

Karma is a truth, and also a support for learning the lessons of the journey. It manages to be positive in its effectiveness, although you may not have thought of it in that light. Further, none of you need go out of your way to discover whether you have any karma to burn. It will happen with no planning whatsoever, sometime, in one or another lifetime.

This plane is the springboard for the rest of your existence outside of the Tao. It is full of every element/particle necessary to foster your journey. We bring a road map, that is all. We offer insight into some of the detours and obstacles you will encounter, karma being the most interruptive, and we bring this map with love and profound joy. Go in Peace.

<Kathryn41> Thank you Michael and Nancy'
<DaveGregg> Well done, Nancy and Michael!
<aditi> Thank you:)
<Geraldine> Peace and love to you, Nancy :)
<RL2072> Thank you.
<akira> Thanks Nancy, Dave and Michael.
<laine> Yes, thank you.
<heatherh> Thank you Nancy, Dave, Michael
<Barbara_H.> Thank you. I have some more perspective
<DaveGregg> Nice turn-out, too. Thanks everyone. :-)
<isis11> Many thanks for your time and insight Michael and Nancy.
<NancyG> Thank you all for your Thanks Yous!


 

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