Opening Comments
<NancyG/MICHAEL>
We are here. We welcome all of you tonight.
We wish to bring some shadowed fears out into the light to show their
nothing-ness. There is a feeling that every little twitch your planet makes is
a harbinger of disaster, a sign of the sky falling.
We wish tonight to remind you that this planet, like every other one in the
universe, breathes and moves and works at its calling every second of every
day. There are tides that rise higher than usual, there are places where the
insides of the planet come to the outside. There are times of high winds and
greater than normal rains and other times of no rain when there 'should' be
some.
You will shroud these perfectly normal doings of the planet with
interpretations that signal dying, destruction, danger if you follow the rooks
of doom every time there is a slight deviation from the 'norm'. We bring this
to you tonight because there seems to be a need to reassure you all about the
patterns of energy that continually surround your world.
We understand why the concern when one of the earth's workings turns into a
frightening experience for fragments who live within its area. But for all its
5 billion years, remember, your planet has been heaving, roiling, muttering,
exhibiting, and it is not going to stop just because there are now fragments
who can observe it.
One of the great differences which you all face that was not a part of your
ancestors experience, is the almost instantaneous ability of the wired and
wireless to send knowledge of these happenings around the world. When you
consider that there are thousands of earthquakes A DAY to be documented around
the globe, and hundreds of inches of rain to be measured in just a small part
of the globe you may begin to put things into perspective. And that
perspective can allay the disturbing shadows of Maya that mount into fears of
various kinds.
Even the work of human beings, and there is some of this current in the world,
that has made small alterations in the normal patterns is of very little
moment on the whole of the planet. We have said this before but it bears
repeating: There is no plan within the greater organization of the universe
that includes the total destruction of Planet Earth.
Does that mean that efforts to bring various actions that inflict damage to
specific areas to the attention of everyone should be halted? By no means.
Just because it is not in the greater picture that Planet Earth should
implode, explode, or in anyway be destroyed, we repeat also what we have said
before: Do you want to live in a garbage dump? Do you want your children to?
And further, if there is no sense of housekeeping in the current generations,
you yourselves will be the inheritors of the pollution because you will be
reincarnating into this very world. But this is only a side issue to what we
wish to bring to you tonight. Continue to alert those who seem uncaring or
unknowing about the problems you see, but do not for a moment let these issues
cloud your reason.
The planet is a living thing, quite capable of recovery, regeneration, renewal
without much more than a reasonable amount of attention from its inhabitants.
And so, put fear where it belongs, in the heart of Maya, and lean instead on
the energy of knowledge that leads to strength, purpose, and ultimately love.
These are your armor, not the constant battle cries of the fearful and
ignorant.
We know, and so do you, that it is possible to destroy a habitat. The
cetaceans on your planet are here in the form you know because they had done
just that to their home and were forced to finish their cycle of lives in a
different way than they started out. But this destruction took many thousands
of years. Your planet has only just begun to emerge into an industrial age,
and even that is centered in only some parts of your world.
You have awakened to the possibilities far earlier than the cetaceans and
there is every evidence that continued vigilance will bring things into
balance again. But the promoters of fear work at anything that feeds it.
Therefore, we remind you of this and suggest that there is nothing left of
fear once it is unmasked for what it is: the Maya of creation. Let the greater
energy, love, rule your thoughts and actions and that balance you yearn for,
struggle towards, will blot out the negative miasma that impedes straight
thinking.
We are not promoting what you call Pollyanna, head in the sand, if I don't see
it, it will go away thinking. Not at all. The balanced fragment knows the
truth of something when presented with it. Fix what can be fixed, alter
thinking where it can be altered, but abjure hysterical claims and frightening
predictions. You are the workers in love, not in fear.
<DaveGregg> Bobby A, you have the first question tonight...
Q & A
<Bobby_A> What
is the primary reason or lesson to be learned from my current incarnation?
<NancyG/MICHAEL> The
fragment Robert has several personal plans for this incarnation, the primary one
being to bring into his life a sense of worth, that things outside himself have
something to offer. This is a turning out rather than an inward road. Other
lifetimes for this fragment have concentrated on the inward path. Now is the
time to expand into the outer and to explore what it has to offer.
Opening up to others is a part of this outward reach. Examining the physical
world, including the part being manufactured by other fragments, that is,
exploring man-made things, events, ideas, is also a way of accepting the worth
of all creation. This is an interesting objective for one who has seldom thought
in these terms. We see much of value to be had and much growth possible by
following this lodestar.
<Bobby_A> thank you
very much!
<DaveGregg> Deborah D, you're next...
<DeborahD> Can
you please tell us briefly about the different levels of the Causal Plane, and
which one you guys are on?
<NancyG/MICHAEL> The entity
you have named Michael exists on the mid-causal plane, the 4th level. This is
the level of knowledge. The first three levels of the causal are devoted to
preparation for the work that is chosen at the 4th level. The Causal Plane is
ruled by the Intellect, just as the physical plane is one of action and the
astral plane is the one of emotion.
We are a united entity, a union that happened on the final level of the Astral
Plane. As we went forward into the Causal, we began to experience what it means
to be a united entity, to have all our fragments together, finally, and to begin
to be finished with the separation that we had experienced until then. This is
the work of the first levels of the Causal, to become a united entity. We were
no more prepared for what this truly means than are you when you try to
understand it.
The second level of the Causal is devoted to exploration of possibilities. We
'attend classes', sort of. It would seem to you that we do. In this instructive
phase, we learn more about the plan and organization of the universe and our
place in it. We also interact with other entities, most of whom are coming into
their unity from quite different experiences of creation.
The third level is where we examine in greater depth what it is that we will
choose to do, because what we choose is our path to greater growth in agape. We
observe and 'discuss' and 'negotiate' just as you might if you were a part of a
group that is trying to select a service to perform. Having come to agreement on
what we will do, the fourth level is the doing of it.
Beyond the fourth level we begin to shed the last remnants of individualism that
until then has remained with the entity. Even though we now are far less
individual members of this wholeness, there is still a bit of individuality left
to us. That is why we can divide into groups of 4 to 6 or so of us to work with
you as individuals. We are one and at the same time we are not yet one.
We cannot describe in words that will make sense to you what the last two levels
of the Causal Plane are. By the end of our sojourn through them, however, we
will have become one completely, ready to experience the mystery of the upper
planes.
<DeborahD> Thank you
kindly.
<DaveGregg> Switch, you're next...
<switch> Could
you please ask Michael the cause of this nausea that has been troubling me -
Thankyou.
<NancyG/MICHAEL> We suggest
that the fragment Nancy have an expert look into the possibility that there is a
stomach distension. The appropriate enzymes for digestion are not being produced
in enough abundance to assist the progress of solid matter through to the small
intestine. The lack of breakdown is what is causing nausea.
<switch> Thank you so much.
<DaveGregg> Geraldine, you're next...
<Geraldine>
Hello, Nancy and Michael. I'm interested in the lifetime that was the most
karma-producing for me (in otherwords, a "bad ass"). Would you please tell me
the story of who, what I did, where, when, soul age, etc., and whether or not
the karma has been fully balanced?
<NancyG/MICHAEL> The lifetime
lived three hundred years ago as a hunter in the northern part of what is now
known as Siberia produced karmas that have affected several lifetimes since. The
Mature soul hunter chose overleaves that propelled him into situations where he
threatened the livelihood of others, was aggressive and abusive to anyone
getting in his way, and in general made him a man to be feared and avoided. A
total of 5 serious karmic ribbons were created in that lifetime.
The ability to begin to burn these ribbons was not a part of the two lifetimes
following, but by the third and on through lifetimes after, the ribbon burning
process was attempted and all but one was successful. That last was not burned
until the lifetime just before this one, so that we can say yes, the karma has
been balanced. Nothing negative of this lifetime remains to color future lives.
Lessons that were learned through this lifetime about patience, tolerance, and
forgiveness, however, are a part of the fragment's essence now.
<Geraldine> Thank you, Michael, nice to know we can still learn even when
off-kilter :)
<NancyG> We
remind you all that the creation of karma is exactly for the learning of
lessons. No one will advance in agape nor grow as a spiritual being living on a
mountain top in splendid isolation. It is the creation of karma that propels the
fragment into learning. And that is the whole purpose for the physical plane, to
facilitate this experience.
<DaveGregg> Avatar, you're next...
<Avatar415> Are
there glass and metal mega-stuctures present on the Moon left from ancient
civilizations? If so, how old are they?
<NancyG/MICHAEL> There have
been many visitors to your moon over its length of existence, but none have
dwelt there and there are no permanent structures from their visits. There is
even now mining of the moon's minerals being carried out on what you know as the
dark side, but this is done by robots, not sentient beings. The civilizations
that have seen the commercial possibilities of your moon have come and gone over
time. Eventually your observations of the moon will no doubt discover the
existence of these visitors.
<Avatar415> Is it
helium 3 that they are mining?
<NancyG>
That and other elements.
<Avatar415> Should we mine it also?
<NancyG>
This is a matter of choice which your civilization will make, either to or not
to.
<Avatar415>
Thank you Michael.
<DaveGregg> Chris_LeBlanc, you're next...
<Chris_L> Is
the Infinite Soul called Christ the entity responsible for the miraculous
Septenary structure (layers upon layers of 'sevens' as discovered over 100 years
ago by Dr. Ivan Panin) within the 63 Hebrew and Greek scriptures that comprise
the Bible? Could Michael comment briefly on the integrity resonating from these
channeled texts spanning over 1500 years?
<NancyG/MICHAEL> The structure
of 7 is much older than either the Hebrew or Greek contributions to the
scripture known as the bible. Each priestly caste civilization has discovered
the truth of the 7, work of inspiration, expression, action. This is a universal
truth, not a global one nor especially not a personal one.
The texts mentioned are only one of many which makes use of the structure and in
their own way they have integrity. There is always integrity where there is
truth.
We see that we have omitted the essential neutral position when describing the 7
structure. The energy of the universe is created by the tension between the
poles of the structure, the positive and negative elements required to create
energy.
<Chris_LeBlanc> Thank
you.
<DaveGregg> Barbara H, you're next...
<Barbara_Hardy>
In math, the cardinal numbers are ones which have an inherent meaning, quantity,
and the ordinal numbers have a meaning only in context, order like 1st, 2nd,
3rd., with reference to surrounding numbers. Was this why the names of the two
axes were chosen?
<NancyG/MICHAEL> Yes.
<Barbara_Hardy> Is the
neutral the sense of the number in itself, like fourness or oneness?
<NancyG/MICHAEL>
There is a further sense of the terms Cardinal and Ordinal that only
tangentially relates to the meanings given by mathematicians. The Cardinal
elements are inherently exterior and the Ordinal are inherently interior
elements with regard to the energy maintained.
The neutral position which is necessary to maintain the integrity of the
structure has no affinity for either Cardinal or Ordinal. It merely relates the
one to the other through itself.
<Barbara_Hardy> Thank you.
<DaveGregg> Wilma T, you're next...
<Wilma_T>
Hello, Nancy & Michael, I think that I'm to be a spiritual teacher in this
lifetime, is this so? If so, what would be the best way to share the message? If
no, what is my life purpose for this incarnation?
<NancyG> The taking on of
the work of 'spiritual teacher' is almost always the result of an agreement made
before incarnating into a particular life. That is not to say that any one of
you could not choose to pursue the work of disseminating the truths of a
spiritual path.
The fragment Wilma has made this agreement and has come to feel the pull that
responds to the agreement. We believe that careful consideration of the
possibilities for sharing the message will point to one or more that will feel
'right', will be attractive and comfortable.
There are many ways to accomplish this mission. The fragment Wilma will know
when one catches her and generates its own attraction.
<Wilma_T> Thank you Nancy & Michael
<DaveGregg> Kathryn, you're next...
<Kathryn41> My
shoulder/upper arm has been very painful for about 4 months and increasingly
difficult to use. Chiropractic isn't helping and alternative therapies are
proving of limited help. I am considering getting a cortisone shot but would
appreciate Michael's comments on 'cause' and other possible treatments.
<NancyG> This condition
bears a resemblance to what is known as a 'frozen shoulder'. This is the result
of shortened ligaments and can seriously deteriorate the muscular structure to
the point of complete shut down.
A shot of cortisone is a temporary expedient. It will probably help in the short
term but is not a cure and will necessitate continual repetition.
Very deep, almost certainly painful, therapeutic manipulation is in order here.
This intervention is designed to stretch the ligaments, relieving the
constricted muscles and allowing normal movement. It is our experience that this
takes time and many sessions with a qualified professional. The results,
however, are usually worth the effort.
<Kathryn41> Thank you. That seems to be right on.
<DaveGregg> Cheryl, you have the final question...
<Cheryl> Thank
you. I had a precognitive dream Nov 3, 2008. I was told 'you will suddenly
retire in 2 years Nov 30 2010. I exclaimed I am not ready to retire. I will only
be 58. Two voices told me" Don't worry, we will take care of you." even with
this I'm concerned what this means. Can you help me understand this dream?
<NancyG/MICHAEL>
Dreams are of a variety of experiences, not all of which are prophetic. And even
when they appear to be telling the future, we remind you that human beings have
the ability to change everything about their lives even unto the very last
breath they take.
We suggest that this dream is a combination of things. There is a relationship
with the fragment's greater cadence which accounts for the 'we' of the promise
to care for her. And there is the fragment's deep-seated fear of not being able
to afford being unemployed. Security is high in the list of this woman's needs
and when she dreamed she would be 'suddenly' retired her astral self stepped in
to assure her that she would be 'cared for'. These are the explanations for the
elements of the dream.
Now, a greater
question might be: How true was the dream? Should I put any reliance on these
predictions? And our answer is this: There may come a time when the fragment's
wage earning will be terminated by a situation beyond her control. If this
happens it is very possible that other avenues will open to smooth the
transition, i.e., something will provide 'care' to take up the slack of lost
income. But is this a prediction of the future? Although we do not make
predictions like this, there are astral energies more closely related to the
physical plane which often do make such predictions. All we can say is this:
Life is full of surprises. Preparing for the worst is sometimes worth doing.
<Cheryl> Thank you very
much!
Closing Comments
<NancyG/MICHAEL>
Many times this evening we have used the word 'possibilities'. It is truly
astonishing how a propos this word is in regard to the human condition. All of
life is possibility. The whole of the physical plane is one of possibilities.
Since nothing is carved in stone for you, what you make of your opportunities is
up to you. When faced with obstacles, examine the possibilities and choose the
one that seems to answer your own needs. The next obstacle will offer
other possibilities, you may depend on that. Which is why we have said what we
did about the paralysis of fear mongering: it excludes possibilities. It
pretends that there is only one solution, one road to take, one finish to
whatever is the Maya of the moment. But you are the inheritors of endless
possibilities for any situation you must deal with. Choosing is in your genes.
Will your choice always be the best possibility? Often not. But there will be
another chance to choose, perhaps not related to the first, but absolutely
related to some area of your existence. And so a new possibility is created with
each fork in the road, each choice t o go forward or to take a short cut, or to
wend through the scenic areas, or to climb higher to see farther, or to slide
lower to rest and recoup. All are possibilities. Nowhere in creation will there
be so many choices, so many possibilities as there are during the cycle of lives
lived on the physical plane. Enjoy them, every one.
<Kathryn41> Thank you Michael. Thank you Nancy- great session tonight
<DaveGregg> Thank you Nancy/Michael. :-)
<yy2> Thank you, Michael,, Nancy, Dave and Kathryn
<Geraldine> Absolutely another great evening, Nancy -- much mind-munchies
<kimberly> Thanks mucho Michaels, Nancy, Dave, Kathryn, and all-- goodnight.
<DeborahD> Thanks, Nancy, Michael , Dave and Kathryn
<Wilma_T> Thank you, Nancy, Michael, & Dave - I'm very grateful.
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