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Michael Chat with
Karen Murphy
(04/15/2007)
Opening Comments
<KarenMurphy> This is a
high-energy group tonight, so let's all hold hands mentally. Place yourself
in a position of comfort. Do not be afraid to move about the room if you
should so desire. Place your awareness now if you will upon the soles of your
feet. What do you feel? Is there fabric, carpeting, the inside of your
shoes, a hard smooth floor? Take some time to discover what it is you feel
and to keep your awareness there.
Feel also what comes to you through your feet, what sensory input and also
what energetic input. You are receiving input AT ALL TIMES but you are rarely
aware of it. Feel not only the floor and the energy but also what lies through
the floor, through it and beyond it, beyond even the earth's surface, its
crust and core, and the space beyond the other side.
Feel your awareness then travel with you to not only the depths of your own
universe but also the multitudinous other realities and dimensions that exist,
co-exist, along with your own. Feel then yourself becoming huge, gigantic, to
meet and match and finally envelop these realities. You are one with them and
they are you. Instantly you travel to your own size again and then deep
INSIDE yourself, traveling along blood vessels, growing smaller and smaller,
smaller than your cells.
You are now INSIDE your cells and still you grow ever-smaller and
ever-smaller, realizing finally that you are the same, the same size and mass
as when you were HUGE and larger than the biggest universe. They are one and
the same. You return then to your seat, and again feel your feet on the
floor. You are the same, and yet you are forever changed from this
experience. Take this with you, then, into the night and into this week and
into and out of your dreams, for you have seen the TRUE YOU.
DaveGregg: Connie, you have the first question...
Q & A
ConnieD: Hello Michael and Karen. I'd like
to know about other significant lives as an artist & in what form or medium
did I work?
KarenMurphy: In the
middle ages in France you were known as quite a skilled glassblower. This
was a joy for you as well as that "paid the bills" and your trade. You
trained others in the trade, namely a succession of small boys as was the
custom. There was more than one boy who also shared your bed at one time or
another, but mostly you concentrated on the work, which was everything to
you. There was no wife, no children to distract you from your work. You
became consumed by it and it was eventually your undoing, when you slipped and
fell into an amount of molten glass and were burned over a large portion of
your body. Still, you carry fond memories of when you were consumed
(literally) by the fire and flame of your passion for you art. Few others in
your trade thought of it as art at the time and you were ground-breaking in
that regard. Next, you worked with leather in Persia in the 1400's and worked
intricate designs into it. You were not highly successful monetarily but
again you were happy in becoming consumed by your art and the beauty you were
able to create. Pieces of your work remarkably survived for hundreds of years
due to the process by which they were tanned and preserved.
In other lives, you have been a calligrapher (China) a potter (near east and
also north America, native American) and have worked with fabric (many
places/times) and wool (New England, early 1800's).
Art is familiar to you and mainly comes easily, though in this lifetime you
have set up a few blocks that have proved interesting [smile].
ConnieD: Wow, thank you!
DaveGregg: Marjorie, you're next...
marjorieandherbabies: Evening Karen, Dave,
Michaels! Can Michael offer me any guidance about how to best approach my
coming two months at Renaissance House? (Marjorie Alexander....Thank you!)
KarenMurphy: We would
offer you this: This is a time of not only great renewal but also of
beginnings. There are opportunities being afforded you that you could not hope
to reach otherwise without greater difficulty. We see that there are fears
wrapped up to some extent in this upcoming adventure, but we recommend letting
go of them if possible to "enjoy the ride" if that is possible. Achieving an
openness to experiences will aid you greatly in gleaning what you desire from
this time; if you remain closed then you will likely repeat portions of it,
which may or may not be as pleasant. [smile].
We suggest also to engage in some regular body movement, tai chi or some such,
which will allow you openness and also groundedness, which in the end will aid
you in achieving your goals.
marjorieandherbabies: Thank you so much for your help!
DaveGregg: Ron, you're next...
RonV: Good evening Michael - You told me that
my Life Task is to reach
farther than ever before, taking others along. Can you tell me my True Play,
True Rest, and True Study?
KarenMurphy: True Play
= following things with wings
KarenMurphy: True rest = sleep and dreams and their study
KarenMurphy: True Study = following logical conclusions to their utmost.
RonV: Great! Thanks!
DaveGregg: Ivy, you're next...
ivy: I was wondering if you could tell me
about any remaining mate agreements I might have?
KarenMurphy: This was
a lifetime with eight mate agreements. Four have been fulfilled. Two look
unlikely at this point, one VERY likely and one not so much. The very-likely
is north American, male, single at this time, and there are (astral) plans to
meet. You may or may not recognize this set-up at the time, as will seem
accidental.
The not-so-likely is Japanese but does come to the West coast on business
frequently, however there are no concrete plans to meet at this time. He does
figure prominently in your dreams however [smile] and would feel very familiar
if you were to meet, which although not planned at this time is not altogether
unlikely either.
ivy: Thank you:)
DaveGregg: Laughingboi, you're next...
laughingboi: The fragment now named [name
omitted] has been one of my patients and recently he developed what looked
like a cold sore or a boil on his left upper lip. Any info on past life
associations or karmic ties or anything that might shed light on how he really
got the sore on his lip and why I’m being blamed for causing it would be
greatly appreciated.
KarenMurphy: This
fragment is unsuccessfully dealing with anger issues at this time, and this is
what manifested in his lack of success in dealing with this intense emotion in
other ways. Although there is no karma per se that causes him to react in this
way, there are some difficulties between you that have caused him to react in
this manner. They stem from some lifetimes, mostly one in particular, in which
you were a judged and he was sentenced to hard labor, eventually having to
relocate to Australia (he escaped and went to New Zealand instead). In that
lifetime hid lip was also mangled in such a way that it made him hideous to
look at and unsuitable for marriage, and he was left largely alone and bitter,
spending a lot of time plotting revenge. he does not know why he reacts so
strongly and in such a visceral manner to you at the time, but at the same
time he cannot deny it. Although no karma was incurred there is a small sense
of guilt on your end (you disliked sending anyone to the penal colonies) that
you cannot shake, and it is exacerbated by his intense reaction. We suggest
then that you attempt to contact this fragment on an essence level and attempt
reconciliation and forgiveness. You are angry at his unusual and strong and
unfair reaction; if you forgive him that it may tip the balance and allow him
to cool down enough to slip into a center other than Emotional, which
eventually will lead to understanding as well as a cooling of this symptom.
laughingboi: Thank you very much...I will see if I can talk to him in dream
state...though I know not how exactly to attempt that...take care.
DaveGregg: Lotus, you're next...
Lotus: Hi Michael and Karen. Could you offer
any insight on children with Asperger's syndrome (high functioning autism),
and what kind of educational plan would most benefit them (for example, would
it be better to keep such a child in the general class room, or move her to a
special education room?)
KarenMurphy: Lotus, is
there a specific child you have in mind? Because the immediate answer I get
is that it depends on the child, and I can elucidate and maybe shed light if
there's someone specific.
Lotus: The particular case I have in mind is a 7 year old girl. Her name is
Kalyani.
KarenMurphy: Kalyani
prefers to be alone if possible. Other people send strong, very strong,
energy-waves to her that she finds almost physically painful yet does not have
the vocabulary or understanding of these cross-concepts (physical sensation =
energy = emotion) to articulate this. To that end, a smaller classroom would
be beneficial, BUT keep in mind that it is ENERGY she objects to, and some of
the special-ed children are very high energy-exuding fragments and therefore
would not be a suitable choice to have in her vicinity.
In this case, then, if she cannot be home schooled (which I might add would be
very beneficial, at least for a period of about two years while she "toughens"
her protective shell in terms of being bombarded with energy) that she would
be best served AT THIS TIME in the regular classroom. There are other issues,
however, of assimilation and being held as "different" that may exacerbate
certain self-comforting actions, which would cause it to appear that she is
more agitated and less comfortable, but keep in mind that these action would
dissipate over a period of a few months, about three, and her integration
would then be quite good.
[22:21] Lotus: Thanks so much, I greatly appreciate your advice.
[22:22] DaveGregg: Robinette, you're next...
Robinette: Good Evening Michael & Karen.
After reading the Celestine Prophecies, they hinted at a 10th insight. Would
you elaborate on any other insights not yet found please?
KarenMurphy: We find
that these books are a distillation of the truths found everywhere, but have
been bent or distorted somewhat so as to make more sense to the physical
reality you find yourselves in now. Since this is not the end-all and be-all
to reality, we would say then that there are some discrepancies and
inconsistencies with these "insights" that do not necessarily reflect the
ENTIRE truth of reality.
This author has done a good job of revealing what he thought to be truths, but
as they are indeed only partial-truths, it is not entirely useful to go
looking for more partial-truths to complete the set. This author does,
however, have access to additional partial-truths which he does plan to make
public at some time hence. We see that these have been an excellent
"jumping-off point" for many fragments interested in metaphysics, but there
are other sources closer to the "entire truth" than this one.
Robinette: Thank you
DaveGregg: Ocean, you're next...
ocean1: Hi Michael and Karen, my name is
Cheryl.... a few weeks ago, a long-lost cousin from Indiana called from out
of the blue... we are as close again now as we were as teens, and it seems
there must be a reason for this happening now, along with so many other
changes in my life. What past life connections do we have that may be relevant
now? Her name is Andrea.
KarenMurphy: It is
time to fulfill the agreement you made prior to incarnating, hence the renewed
acquaintance. This agreement is a mutual one and on the face of it seems very
benign but actually what will likely occur is a melding and integrating of
energies that will allow each of you to then go off in a slightly different
course than before. In other words, your interaction will change each of your
lives to some degree and in some fashion, and this will likely be recognizable
in retrospect one day some years hence.
In addition, there are several past-life associations that bind you, but none
of which really figure greatly in this present one nor do they affect your
interaction to any great degree except the amount of comfort and familiarity
that exists between you.
ocean1: thank you very much!
DaveGregg: mheinze, you're next...
mheinze: Finding a "good" job has been my
bane of life. My brain is turned to mush on the topic. I gotta find work
immediately and would prefer to upgrade from anything I've done to date. Can
you perceive a venue of focus that would be wise for me to, well, focus on?
KarenMurphy: We
realize that the demands of the physical plane and what is loosely called
"making a living" make career and work choices more complicated than they
naturally would be from our standpoint here in the "ether" [smile]. To that
end, we see how difficult it can be to balance passion and fulfillment with
the ability to buy groceries and to pay rent. Therefore, it is with extreme
caution that we offer career or work advice, knowing that it simply isn't as
"easy" as we see it to be. Yet, isn't it?
mheinze: Do go on...
KarenMurphy: If you
can reach out your hand in the drive-thru of a Krispy Kreme shop and take a
hot, fresh, meltingly sweet and wonderful taste sensation simply be holding
out your hand, why can't you simply reach out and grab your life, your
passion, the same way? Why must it be hard? Why, indeed? The answer is: it
mustn't. It doesn't have to be hard. It CAN be as easy as getting that
Krispy Kreme donut.
KarenMurphy: "Well if it's so easy, Michael why don't you tell us how?"
KarenMurphy: There
must be an element of trust. You KNOW that the donut will be there, don't
you? After all, you have paid for it, you ordered it, you expect it. Why not
translate that expectation into the rest of your life? Reach out, then, and
grab what is there. Be careful, though, because you WILL get what you
ordered, so be specific on exactly what it is that you want. This process may
take time, discovering EXACTLY what it is that you want, but once you do?
Simply reach out and take it. It's yours.
mheinze: FOCUS?
KarenMurphy: Do what
it is that you REALLY WANT. You'll know it when you find it. Trust yourself.
mheinze: I love you guys, thank you SOOO MUCH - KAREN :-)
DaveGregg: Jeremy, you're next...
Jeremy: Good evening Michael's and Karen, my
name is Jeremy S. Could Michael please explain the nature of my relationship
with Lisa Schuster monad, past lives, agreements...)
KarenMurphy: The
previous identities of these two fragments is relatively well-known to both of
then, as they often unwittingly lapse into role-play with their prior-selves
at times, speaking in accents or holding prior-photographic images between
them when they interact. There is much between them and a sense of real
comfort and familiarity, YET we say also that there is on the fragment Lisa's
part especially, a holding-back. This is due in part to the enormous strain
that this fragment is under of holding together the family while straining to
see what's ahead at the same time. This is, of course, her perception, and
while valid in many ways, of course does not reflect the entire picture.
The past lives that figure prominently have to do mainly with late-1700's
France and also the period just after the first world-war. In addition there
is much to consider from ancient Rome as well as classical Greece that bears
witness in some of the interaction today. Today, then, there is a mutual-aid
agreement, in that each one is to be borne in some ways by the other held up
as it were. There is a sense of reciprocity and "fairness" that we find quite
striking, and we will say that this is borne out by experience. Right now it
seems that Lisa is on the receiving end, but it FEELS to her as if it was the
other way around. The constant interplay and juxtaposition is somewhat
wearing, and we see these fragments taking a break from one another from time
to time in order to de-stress and re-group and renew. Still, the pull is
there and there is no denying it; the relationship continues and the patterns
remain.
Jeremy: thank you very very MUCH!
DaveGregg: JohnM, you're next...
John_M: My question does happen to be in 2
parts, but they are simple and short: I would like to know 1) How am I
progressing with my 4th Internal Monad, which I was told was well underway
about 2 years ago? and 2) I have been channeled as "mid-Level Old"-- I am
curious as to which specific level I am at?
KarenMurphy: We see
that in some ways you are progressing splendidly with your 4th, yet in others
you get bogged down from time to time. We urge you then to stop and take time
to digest what is happening. We see that you are in a hurry to "progress", but
ironically that is one of your "issues" yet to be dealt with. Trust that they
will all work out in the end, and we see you mainly attending to what comes
up, so why hurry? Presently, and we mean RIGHT THIS MINUTE, you manifest 4th
level Old.
John_M: Thank you Michael and Karen!!
DaveGregg: AnnH, you're next...
annh: Ann Hemenway here. I have been having
what seem to be highly instructional dreams lately, e.g., dreams in which I am
being instructed. Other students seem to be involved. Is this accurate and
what is it that I am learning?
KarenMurphy: Welcome
to Dream School. [smile] It's true, you have set up a scenario in which you
are cognizant of the learning which takes place during dreamtime. This is, of
course, no accident that you maintain awareness of this occurrence. many of
you do so on a regular basis, though perhaps not with the same amount of
clarity. What we see happening here then is a mixture of:
1. remembrance/recognition of past-life knowledge (Atlantis. etc) and the
surrounding scenarios.
2. Present-life associations with a number of other fragments, both from
this lifetime and others, who are gathering for a common purpose.
3. the realization, through symbols, that you are all connected and that
you are all learning.
annh: cool! thank you!
DaveGregg: MarkP, you're next...
markp: Greetings Michael & thanks to both you
& Karen for tonight's work. Personal question this time. I'd like to
know if I've any astral or past life connections, or current life agreements
w/ a recently met associate & visual artist, Maranda P.
KarenMurphy: This was
a major life-teacher for you during several lifetimes. Not only have you
shared physical space and lifetimes but more importantly is the extreme
support position she fulfilled for you for several lifetimes in addition to
one entire grand cycle. So in other words, you go back a long way [smile]
Although there is physical chemistry between you what we see as "optimum" in
this lifetime for both if you is a reciprocal learning position fulfilled
similarly to a monad. This is another type of agreement made mainly on the
fly with little pre-planning.
Although you did agree beforehand to cross paths in this lifetime, we see that
this agreement has not yet been initiated or finalized, nor was it planned
from prior to incarnating, yet we see many positive benefits arising from such
an interaction. For you, Mark, it will help draw a line of delineation
between types of relationships in your life, and for her it will provide some
very needed grounding and a stable basis from which to operate, if the two of
you were to become friends.
markp: Fascinating, as always. And as always, I'm grateful. Cheers.
[23:13] DaveGregg: RL, you're next...
RL: Good evening all. Can Michael tell me
something about my recent desire for travel, and if this has relevance with
my 4th IM, and/or life task?
KarenMurphy: There are
others with whom you are desirous of meeting in order to fulfill or to begin
to fulfill certain agreements, who would be met only if one of you travels.
There is a strong impetus to meet these fragments in order to go to what you
think of as the "next step" in your life; hence the impetus to travel. We
would say that this desire then is more related to life-tasks than it is to
4th IM, although of course both may be involved.
RL: Any indication which countries are most significant?
KarenMurphy: At the
risk of sounding impish, we suggest that you allow your intuition be your
guide [smiling] but we also may add that southeast Asia May be a wonderful
place to begin looking.
RL: Thank you.
DaveGregg: Jondalf, you're next...
Jondalf: Hi Karen and Michael. What is the
Essential reason there are so many Autistic children incarnate now?
KarenMurphy: As we
intimated earlier this evening, the issues surrounding autism are many and
complex. There is of course no "one cause" for it, and it is also wise to
consider that there are many DIFFERENT "disorders" now all being lumped under
the same "autism spectrum" umbrella. To that end, it is difficult to pinpoint
ONE cause or reason for the influx of similarly-situated fragments, but we can
draw these correlations:
1. Environmentally, there are HUGE changes being made in human DNA that have
affected the number of fragments with 'altered" DNA as compared to what came
"before". This alteration is, we stress, a NATURAL state but has been sped up
by environmental factors as well as various substances (plastics, etc.) that
did not exist in their present form until relatively recently.
2. Choice-wise, there are "trends" that appear in the human consciousness as
a global phenomenon that affect choices in terms of overleaves, life-task,
etc. Although of course each fragment makes choices independently of one
another (barring agreements among fragments), there is a certain influence
from "global consciousness" that creates certain trends in overleaf choices.
You are experiencing an upswing now in terms of the number of fragments
choosing inwardly-focused overleaves, which gives rise to scenarios that look
like autism.
3. In addition, there is much to be gained in terms of scientific research
and correlation-theory by fragments acting in this heretofore little-known or
understood manner, so basically many fragments are simply giving the
scientific community something to do. What, you think that everything is
serious and has to have a serious "reason"? That would be an incorrect
assumption. Fragments like to "play" on a global level also. This is a form,
then, of play. Is not everything, then, play? All life and interaction is
simply manipulation of energy and matter, is it not? Everything is malleable
in various forms, so why not have fun with the Play-doh and make something
REALLY cool??
Jondalf: Is there a preponderance of fragments with Autism from a particular
Cadre, or group/faction of Cadres?
KarenMurphy: Not
necessarily, although there is a large influx coming at this time (and has
been incarnating for the past ten years or so) who were last incarnated during
the Second World War.
Jondalf: Fascinating. Thank you.
DaveGregg: Laine, you're next...
Laine: What is my life task and 4 trues? By
the way, that was great advice you gave Maggie. I will use it.
KarenMurphy: Life Task
= simply to be, in the purest form of being, to take up space and breathe and
create no NEW demands, but BE.
True Play = flying, whether in dreamtime or in imagination, or reality. the
essence of flight.
True rest = stirring the soup; creating nourishment while feeding the soul
with repetitive movement.
True Study = animals and their habitats.
True Work = finding a way to exist without adding anything or taking anything
away; minimalism to its extreme.
Laine: Thank you
DaveGregg: Julian you're next...
Julian: Can you give me any insight into my
relationship with the fragment Eda W. and how I can help her with her concern
about failing memory?
KarenMurphy: This
fragment recalls a similar situation where the failing memory was indicative
of a long decline into madness, and there is much fear surrounding that
scenario as well as the potential of a reprise. There are indeed brain cells,
synapses among them, that are firing differently from before. The brain is
attempting to rewire but there is so much fear that the body repulse attempts
at either repairs to return the brain to a prior state or to adjust and become
something else entirely with a different way of interacting and operating. In
other words, the body is attacking itself during what is a natural state of
change. If there was a way to reduce the fear, the process might slow somewhat
to allow the body and the personality to become used to the changes. However
this would eventually be startling to others around her, these changes, even
if taken gradually.
There is little chance of reversing this condition and there must be the
realization that this is a choice of the fragment, however frightening it may
be. Reducing the fear by performing past-life recall may be of some help, but
again will not stop the process..
Julian: Thank you.
DaveGregg: Terri, you're next...
Terri: Hello Karen, Michael. Could you tell
me anything about my ex-step-granddaughter Abby and what is going on with her
at this time? Particularly concerning the spot or tumor that I have just
learned about.
KarenMurphy: There is
at this time a choice being mulled over by this fragment. The spot may indeed
be cancerous, in which case she will likely make a rapid exit. That has yet
to be determined however, and this fragment has not yet determined which
course to take in this case. We would say that the potential for the spot
being cancerous is about 60% while it being benign runs at about 35%, with a
5% margin for error. There are several issues weighing in at this time, mainly
having to do with the fact that this fragment made some hasty choices in order
to incarnate and is not entirely pleased by them, and may be deciding to begin
again. There is a "no harm, no foul" aspect to this choice although of course
there are those surrounding her who would be devastated should she decided to
exist at this time, but that again is a choice made by the fragments
involved.
Terri: Thank you so much
DaveGregg: Daniele, you're next...
daniele: I am trying to understand what
different teachings say. I am hoping to put it all together! (-: Can you
tell me what Jesus meant with sin?
KarenMurphy: We should
say at the outset that many, almost a majority, of the words spoken or
attributed to the man Jesus have been altered over the years. The nature of
"sin", as it was known in those times, bears little if any resemblance to what
is held over people's heads at this time, creating guilt and obedience.
Therefore, when we say that AT THAT TIME, the meaning of "sin" was ANY
interaction outside of marriage, including speech or glance, does this shed
light on the society in place during the time of Jesus? t5here was an
incredibly complex moral code that was put in place in order to further the
species, and to assure the continuation of each genealogical line. However, it
is important to note that MARRIAGE was quite loosely defined, and could exist
between brother and sister. So when Jesus spoke of sin and forgiving of sins,
he was speaking of the incredible need to remain within the moral code that
was established for the good of the community, simply for the sake of safety.
There was, of course no GUILT associated with "breaking" this code, THEREFORE,
the sins could be easily forgiven if the INTENT was present.
daniele: ok thanks!
DaveGregg: Procrastinator, you're next...
Procrastinator: Hi my name is Umihiko M. I
want to know my soul age/level, and my life task.
KarenMurphy: Old 5,
manifesting as Late Mature for now. Life task = creating a sense of self that
surrounds you and envelopes everyone around you in bliss and peace.
Procrastinator: Thanks.
DaveGregg: Sandy, you're next...
SandyW: I'm going to pay attention to what
you said about the job situation too... as for my questions
KarenMurphy: (by the way, that job/career information was for a lot of people
here tonight)
SandyW: ....I have a friend, Tammy P, who I would like to know about...any
essence ties, past lifetimes, karma or agreements tat we might have together
this lifetime....we sure keep paralleling each other.....
KarenMurphy: This was
your father in a prior existence, the man who gave you life and then cast you
aside later to survive. You were sold in order to pay bills and also to
decrease on the mouths to feed. The guilt was tremendous but that was also
the way of things. You were not maltreated and after ten years earned your
freedom (Africa in the late 1700's). There was an agreement that was not
completed and it is this that hangs between you now. There are parallels
between you because the agreement has to do with experiential learning and it
was important to assume a similar life so as to further deepen the experience
of the agreement. The agreement has not yet been completed but it has
begun,. prior to that there was a need to deepen the trust between you that
had been broken. Although you bore no ill will to your family in that
lifetime, there was a sense on the father's part of guilt that could not be
shaken free. hat had to be repaired before this agreement could take place.
We estimate that the bonds between you will continue to deepen over the next
ten years or son at which time we estimate that the agreement will be
completed, after which there could be a loosening and relaxation, a feeling of
completion and accomplishment, that may alter your relationship.
SandyW: Thanks I know Tammy will like to hear this too.
DaveGregg: Russ, you're next...
SandyW: Dave, Russ had to go to work, but he
left me his question...Is it still okay if I ask for him? Russ has a
co-worker, Mark, that he wants to know what is up between them, agreements,
past life's, karma, essence ties, etc.
KarenMurphy: Mark was
a highly placed actor in the drama known as the Spanish Inquisition. Russell
was caught in a web and was implicated in something he did not do. Mark was
responsible for his death. There is much discomfort between them, YET in other
ways these two men could be like brothers, and have been. The dichotomy is
painful to the man Russell, and is perplexing to the man Mark. If they intend
to continue working together, we suggest a course of essence contact or
dreamtime meetings to help alleviate the situation and to take the edge off
the discomfort, which is at times palpable.
It is possible to get past such an unpleasant association, but it is not
easy. We would suggest also to attempt to get closer to the "positive"
past-life associations by recreating them through regression techniques with
an experienced therapist who deals in such things.
SandyW: thanks...I will let the two of them know
DaveGregg: Lady, you're next...
LadyLapis: Hello, Karen & Michael. my full
name is Wilma T & I've been involved in an off & on relationship with a man
named Doug W for over 13 years. I think we've had at least 3 past lives
together. I would like information on our overleaves & agreements and how I
can resolve the karmic ties between us, or create trust & affection between
us, or release & move on.
KarenMurphy: This is a
difficult relationship. There are some abrading overleaves yet there is a
sense of completion and fulfillment that neither fragment has been able to
locate elsewhere. Although there are no agreements save a convoluted mate
agreement between these fragments, they are indeed tied in many other ways
through past-life association or other ties that go off-world or off-reality.
In other words, these are "old friends" with whom quite a bit has passed under
the bridge. The physical attraction is undeniable, yet neither can really say
why, as neither is the other's "type".
That's part of what
makes life on the physical plane so interesting, these seemingly indefinable
qualities, the je ne c'est quoi.
The trust issues stem
from early-life patterns that are being held by the man Doug, and it is his
choice whether to continue to hold them or to release them. We will say that
unless/until he does so, there are likely to be further issues and
discomforts.
LadyLapis: Is there anything I can do?
KarenMurphy: Hold him
in the intention that he will choose to examine these issues and release them;
if he is bathed in a non-judgmental glow of intention, it may help support him
to the extent that he is able to do this. other than that, all is choice and
if he chooses not to examine these admittedly painful issues, there is not
much that you can do.
LadyLapis: Thank you so very much...I'm truly grateful.
DaveGregg: Gray, you have the last question...
Gray: Thanks! Karen and Michael. This is a
two parter, but the answer could be brief. I am asking about my most
flamboyant Artisan creative incarnation, my resonance places it in Italy. Date
and manner of being a creative artisan. Secondly, give some details please of
the time I was a Celtic Wizard. This artisan life was probably young soul.
KarenMurphy: Venice,
in the time of the Old Masters, a fabric dealer who creatively bought and sold
fine fabrics and skimmed a little off the top in order to purchase:
1. a brothel 2. an art gallery 3. a nunnery
Gray: Damn! Why can't I figure out how to do that in this life? <grin> no need
to answer that.
KarenMurphy: The
Celtic Wizard lifetime was from a slightly different reality-set than this
one, a world in which magic works, and you were based in Ireland though you
traveled many places both on-world and off.
Gray: Thank you very much! DaveGregg: Littlestar, you're next...
littlestar: My question is about the Karma
that I incurred this lifetime, so far and the past karma I've paid back with
my mother. I'd like to know about any part of our relationship from past
lives, agreements, etc. Therefore, there is a buildup and then release of this
karma, this energy, at all times. Every fragment incurs and repays tiny karmas
on almost a daily basis. There is a constant exchange of energy that affects
you at all times. Mostly there is little notice taken of these exchanges
except perhaps as a slight memory of one having been pleasant or not.
KarenMurphy: This is
much what is occurring with your mother, although on a lager scale. There is
a constant give-and-take that is somewhat off-putting to someone not used to
this constant exchange. it can be wearing.
There are no agreements save the parent-child agreement and several minor ones
involving an exchange of information. There are no MAJOR karmas, but the
buildup and exchange of MINOR karmas is difficult. There are times when you
would like a break from this and to not have the relationship always be
"about" something.
There are many past-life associations, but none are extremely significant
except one in which you were young mothers together as native Americans living
in the northwest. Her baby was swept away by waves at the ocean near which
your tribe lived, and you were required to give her your baby since you also
were pregnant as well. You resented seeing your child in her arms and took
the first opportunity to leave, however you were brought back and made to stay
and then to serve her in a closer environment as punishment for taking two
tribe members away (yourself and your baby). You caused a miscarriage and
then took the opportunity to bleed out and therefore escape. There is no
karma but there is resentment. There is a sense of competition that exists
between you that makes you feel uncomfortable; she is largely unaware of it.
littlestar: Thank you.
Closing Comments
KarenMurphy: You have seen
then how closely connected you are, and at the same time how very many
possibilities there exist not only in your own life but in all the myriad
mirror-lives, stretching into infinity, that exist as well. It is truly
mind-boggling and can be overwhelming, and when this happens we suggest then
to take a breath, slow down and reach into that innermost place within
yourself where you know the core of. You have been to that core tonight when
we first met, and you know where it is. Trust the, that you will find that
place again and that you will know it, for everything else, EVERYTHING ELSE,
builds on that. We bid you good evening.
DaveGregg: Thank you Michael & Karen. It was a long haul tonight, but a great
outing. :-)
Markp: Big session. Lots of work Karen. Very nice. nite all.
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