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WE ARE HERE WITH YOU TONIGHT. THE ENERGY IS
STRONGER NOW THAT _____ IS BACK.
HER ENERGY IS GOOD. IT IS A POSITIVE FORCE.
SC: I would like to know if my mother is a
middle cycle Young soul, and if R
is a Mature soul. (Aside to the group:) My
mother is a bomb-thrower, and
that is the cycle where they are.
RC. I think we should ask for a comment on ES.
ALL ARE WELCOME. HE IS A SEEKER. D. (SC's
mother) IS AN EARLY CYCLE YOUNG
SOUL; R. [is] LATE [young].
RC: Is it possible that R is in a transitory
PJ: May I ask about MS — what sort of soul she
SHE IS A MID CYCLE MATURE SOUL.
PJ: Are we in the same place?
PJ: Where am I?
YOU ARE A SIXTH LEVEL OLDER SOUL.
ET: Just to make this situation round, there are
two other people present
who haven't asked, one of them being myself, and
the other being ES. Before
we go straddling the universe, I think that it's
proper to define us too.
E.T. HAS SEEN TWO PREVIOUS LEVELS AS AN OLDER
SOUL. E.S. IS NOW IN THE
ET to SC: Do you remember the levels?
SC: Yeah, well you spend approximately seven
lifetimes in each cycle.
RC: That's sort of the median. Some people spend
more, some people less.
SC: Michael told us we could make it if we
worked hard enough.
RH: I thought that was for Old souls only — not
for Young souls and Baby
SC: That may be; we've never asked that.
ET repeats the cycles of souls for ES's benefit.
SC: The Transcendental and Infinite souls do not
manifest in a physical
THAT IS ESSENTIALLY CORRECT. THE HIGH CAUSAL
BODY [Transcendental soul]
MANIFESTS ONLY IN TIMES OF SOCIAL OR RELIGIOUS
UNREST. THEN IF THE
REVOLUTION DOES NOT COME ABOUT, THE HIGH MENTAL
BODY [Infinite soul]
MANIFESTS AND BRINGS THE LOGOS TO BEAR. THE
MATURE SOUL CAN ALSO ACCELERATE
WITHIN THE CYCLE. YOUNG SOULS CAN BURN KARMIC
RIBBONS RAPIDLY, SOMETIMES,
AND ACCELERATE. ELIZABETH BLACKWELL AND FLORENCE
NIGHTINGALE ARE EXAMPLES;
LOUIS PASTEUR, WALTER REED, MARIE CURIE, [and]
FRANK LLOYD WRIGHT
We looked up Elizabeth Blackwell in the
Encyclopedia to find out who she
was. She was the first woman physician in the
Is ____ a Young or Baby soul? I couldn't tell
EARLY CYCLE YOUNG SOUL — RETAINS THE TRAPPINGS.
WATCH FOR THE PERCEPTIONS OF
OTHERS. IF THEY DIFFER GREATLY FROM THOSE
INVOLVED, YOU ARE PROBABLY DEALING
WITH A MATURE SOUL.
What does that mean to you?
That means that if we (the group) perceive you
in a certain light, and
someone comes into the group and perceives you
altogether differently, he is
probably a Mature soul. He picks up on different
And that means he's Mature?
That's just the cycle he's in. Michael keeps
telling us what a lousy cycle
that is to be in, because you pick up all of the
bad vibrations from
everybody around you.
Then you have all these problems.
RC: That's where the suicide rate is the
RH: Let's see, what about Dr SL — he has
penetrating eyes with much energy
behind them, and much inner consideration — is
he a Young or Baby soul?
S.L. IS A MATURE SOUL WITH PROBLEMS.
RH: OK, is Dr HL a Mature or Old soul; I think
Old (The group agreed that Dr
HL was probably Old.)
H.L. IS A SECOND LEVEL OLD SOUL.
RH: Then Is Dr L a Mature soul?
BUT OF COURSE.
RH: Is Dr B a Young soul?
RH: Is Dr P a Mature soul?
NO. THIS MAN IS A BABY SOUL, LAST LEVEL. THIS
SC: What happens often?
RC: I assume that the confusion happens often —
SC: Is that what you mean, that the confusion
RH: Then Dr M is a Young or Mature, I'm not sure
which — I think Young.
MID LEVEL YOUNG.
RH: Then what about Dr LW? — I have Young.
ET: I say Old.
L.W. IS A FINAL CYCLE MATURE SOUL, AGAIN WITH
RC: Let's try and get some clarification on how
RH: Well I'm trying to read it from the eyes.
THE EYES ARE VALID. YOU MUST DISCRIMINATE
BETWEEN FEAR, UNREST, AND
SC: Well then, can we have some eye signs that
ET: Or some guidelines?
INFANT SOULS MANIFEST FEAR. THIS CAN BE SEEN IN
THEIR EYES. THIS FEAR IS OUT
OF PROPORTION TO THE SITUATION. THE WHOLE
BUSINESS OF LIVING IS FEARFUL TO
THEM. BABY SOULS ARE GUILELESS, AND THIS SHOWS
IN THEIR EYES. YOUNG SOULS
ARE IN A STATE OF UNREST. THIS OFTEN SHOWS UP IN
ERRATIC EYE MOVEMENTS: THE
INABILITY TO HOLD EYE CONTACT FOR LONG — BUT
THEN THE MATURE SOULS FIND IT
DIFFICULT TO MAINTAIN EYE CONTACT BECAUSE OF
DISCOMFORT. OLD SOULS HAVE A
DIRECT, PENETRATING STARE ABSENT IN EARLIER
CYCLES. WISDOM IS REFLECTED
RH: I would like to know if AB is a Baby soul.
[RH's daughter] V.H. HAD MANY PROBLEMS BECAUSE
OF THIS [person]. THIS IS THE
WORST OF ALL POSSIBLE ALLIANCES BECAUSE THE BABY
SOUL HAS SUCH A STRONG
SENSE OF RIGHT AND WRONG, AND HIS OPINION OF
HIMSELF IS OFTEN EXALTED.
RH: I would like to know about WJ.
HE IS A MATURE SOUL WHO COULD BE A SEEKER. P.J.
COULD HELP. HE PERCEIVES HER
IN AN EXTREMELY POSITIVE VEIN.
PJ: I think that could be so, but then I don't
understand how to help him. I
would like some guidance.
ALLOW HIM TO PERCEIVE THE CHANGES AS THEY OCCUR
IN YOU. MATURE SOULS ARE
DISTURBED BY SECRETS.
PJ: Yes, but that's not helpful to me, because I
do that all the time, and
what I get is kind of like - - -
IN A SENSE YOU DO. YOU MUST REMEMBER THAT HIS
PERCEPTIONS ARE VASTLY
DIFFERENT THAN YOURS. HE MUST BE SHOWN A
POSITIVE RESULT: THAT IS, SOMETHING
TANGIBLE, BEFORE HE IS ABLE TO EXERT ANY ENERGY.
HE IS ALSO IN THE
TRANSITORY STAGE NOW; YOU CAN LOOK FOR CHANGES.
THE SOCIETY OF FRIENDS WAS A
NATURAL FOR HIM. PERHAPS HE WILL RENEW.
ET: Was he a Quaker?
PJ: No, he never was, but his family was.
ET to SC: Did you know that?
SC: Well, I think she mentioned it once before.
PJ: He has renewed his interest in the Society
of Friends recently, since
his father, but he was not technically ever a
Quaker. How can WJ find
changes and secrets less threatening? How can I
present changes in myself so
they are less threatening to him?
BY PREFACING THE CHANGES WITH SOMETHING
FAMILIAR. TEACH THE CHANGES AFTER
ET: As I see it, Michael is saying first give
him something familiar, then
from there, what is different; something like
peeping around the corner.
PJ: I guess I'm searching for a for instance.
All of a sudden we're having this huge body of
information about souls, and
it must be important, and I would like an
overview. Is this information
going to be practical to me? Can I use it? Why
THIS IS ANOTHER OVERLEAF, AND INTEGRATION MUST
TAKE PLACE BEFORE YOU ARE
ABLE TO PERCEIVE THE SYNTHESIS, WHICH OF COURSE
MUST PRECEDE PERCEPTION OF
THE TAO. YES, IT CAN BE OF GREAT VALUE TO YOU.
BODY-TYPING ANSWERS SOME
QUESTIONS. THIS [soul age] ANSWERS STILL ANOTHER
SET OF QUESTIONS. THIS IS A
BROADER OVERLEAF, AND THERE ARE MORE.
RH: I knew there would be more. I just knew it!
ES: I have a daughter, 26 years old, who is
miserable. How can I help her to
enjoy life more?
MATURE SOULS DO NOT USUALLY "ENJOY" LIFE UNLESS
THEY ARE SURROUNDED BY SOULS
IN BLISS. THIS IS A DIFFICULT CYCLE. WE MUST
EMPHASIZE THIS DIFFICULTY. THE
MATURE SOUL IS BESET WITH MANY PROBLEMS, ALL
INTRINSIC. THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN
HELP IS TO MAKE THE ENVIRONMENT NON-STRESSFUL,
SO THAT SHE HAS SANCTUARY.
THE MATURE SOUL OFTEN SEEKS PROFESSIONAL HELP ON
PJ: Can someone, in one lifetime, go from a
Mature soul to being an Old
SC: They have said so.
PJ: Because that is what I feel has happened to
me, very much so. I used to
see everybody as they wished to be seen, and as
they perceived me. I
believed in their perceptions too.
THAT WAS BECAUSE YOU WERE RAISED BY MATURE
RC: Yeah, apparently until you are about 35,
this thing doesn't really go
SC: The soul manifests at that point whether or
not you've allowed it to.
ES: I am at the present time trying to look
deeper into myself; make contact
with myself. Will I get anywhere there?
YES. MEDITATION WOULD HELP.
ES: Yes, that is what I've been feeling that I
should be doing.
RH: Would you like some suggestions on how to do
ES: How to get with it?
TRANSCENDENTAL MEDITATION IS EXCELLENT FOR THOSE
RC: If you want to get help professionally,
there is a thing in Berkeley
called the Student's Meditation Center. They
teach you how to do it
ET: Of course, there are TM groups all over the
ES: We have Shanti.
RH: Yes, but she's not a Transcendental
ES: She does Zen meditation.
RC: No, that's very difficult. From all that
I've read, the TM is the way to
start, then you can go into the more refined
forms of meditation.
ES: I did some mediation years back, but I
didn't have any kind of intense
experience. I had a feeling of disconnection
from the total, but I didn't
have a vivid sensation.
RH: There is a Transcendental Meditation center
in Walnut Creek. You could
call them and find out if there is one closer to
ES: I have reservations about whether I am open
enough to take it. I wonder
if I'm too rigid.
YOU ARE IN NO WAY RIGID.
ES: Well, I am also sensitive about those things
which work for me, and
being from the old country [Greece], I sometimes
have reservations about
some of the things that may work for other
people in this culture.
THIS CULTURE NOTWITHSTANDING, YOU MUST VERIFY
THE EFFICACY OF THE METHOD
RH: Transcendental Meditation comes from India
anyway, and not from this
The group then ascertained that ES was Greek,
and we discussed the fact the
Michael had told SC and RC that if they were
really interested in "reading"
the Gospels, they should learn Greek.
RC: We asked them about the disciples of Christ
and whether any of them were
old souls, and they said that only Luke was.
Then I asked them if it would
do me any good if I went back to the Bible and
read Luke, and they said only
if you can read Greek. Then we asked where we
could get an accurate
translation, and they said that they would make
it available to us.
ET: I just read "Dear and Glorious Physician" by
Taylor Caldwell, about
Lucaneus. I read that and I said to myself, her
perception of Luke is right:
he is an Old soul.
ES: I have a Greek Bible and it is a pretty old
one — a pretty authentic
RC: Let's ask for a comment.
THE GREEK BIBLE USED BY THE PATRIARCH OF ATHENS
AND RECOMMENDED BY HIM WOULD
BE VALUABLE. THERE WERE REVISIONS MADE IN 1866.
HE USES AN UNREVISED
VERSION. HE IS A SCHOLAR.
SC: Who is the Patriarch of Athens?
ES: Well, he is one of the five Patriarchs. The
seat of the church is in
Istanbul — the chief Patriarch — but they are in
Jerusalem and Cairo.
Can we have the name of the translator?
ET: You know what comes to my mind when you are
talking about the Greek
Bible, is that somebody probably took the King
James Version, and some
missionary translated it into Greek and sent it
back to them.
ES: I understand that Christ himself talked in
Greek. The language is really
very beautiful. I question, and I don't know
whether this is proper, your
capacity to learn Greek and understand the
Bible, because this is in a
little different level of Greek, and is not very
common today. It is not in
the ancient Greek language, but not in the
common Greek language of today
PJ: It would be like trying to read Chaucerian
THE LANGUAGE COULD BE LEARNED. WE DID NOT SAY
THAT IS WAS EITHER EASY OR
NECESSARY. IT IS SIMPLY THAT THERE HAVE BEEN
DISTORTIONS WITH EACH REFORM.
GREECE WAS NOT AN EXCEPTION.
SC: Maybe we should read the translation of this
"Aristargos", but then (to
ES) you say you've never heard of him.
ET: I have a feeling that that should be
THAT IS CORRECT.
RC: Would it be a valid statement to say that,
of the Bible Luke would be
the most valuable scholar, and that that
translation would be the best if we
really wanted to get the meat out of the Bible.
YES. ANOTHER WAY IS THROUGH US.
SC: I wanted to pursue that thing we started the
other day about "Israel"
being an allegory, meaning "cast out souls". He
told us that Israel, as
referred to in the Old Testament, was an
allegory, and it referred to souls
being cast from the Tao.
RH: "Israel" is used to try to explain the
SC: He said that the firstborn experienced the
feeling of being cast from
the homeland. The homeland was not a place in
Palestine. It was the place
from which the souls come.
At this point there were three conversations
going on at once. One concerned
the allegorical nature of the Bible; one
concerned acoustical holograms;
another concerned the Gospel of Luke. Then we
asked for a comment from
Michael on Israel.
THAT CONCEPT SHOULD GIVE YOU NO GREAT CONFLICT.
THE ENTIRE BOOK IS
RH: I liked Matthew. Luke was more poetic, so
was John, but Matthew seemed
to have the meat for me.
RC: Can we have a statement about Matthew?
HE WAS A RELATIVELY PERCEPTIVE YOUNG SOUL.
ET: I have a question that is burning my heart.
To me it wouldn't matter if
he said read John or Mark or Matthew or Luke,
because they are all
translations, ad nauseum, and maybe the great
original Luke was the best,
but I have no relation to the great, original
Luke. Recently on my trip I
read a book by Meher Baba and it really tore me
up, because he said, "I am
the Christ, I am God, I've gone all the way up
and I've been united with the
all". Then he says, "yes, I catch colds, and I
do this and that". I also
know that Baba Ullah says, "I was Christ, who
was Muhammed, and now I am
SC: And Saiya Baba says that also.
ET: Yeah, OK, and then there were the five
perfect masters that Maher Baba
talks about. Maharaj Gee, the 14-year old Guru
calls himself the "Perfect
Master". There are so many "masters" and there
are so many "Christ
principles" and "God principles", and I sure
would like some clarifying help
THE INFINITE SOUL MANIFESTED THROUGH THE
PHYSICAL FORMS OF LAO TSU, SRI
KRISHNA, SIDDHARTHA GAUTAMA, AND JESUS — NO
OTHERS. THE TRANSCENDENTAL SOUL
HAS MANIFESTED THROUGH SOCRATES, ZARATHRUSTRA,
THROUGH MUHAMMED, AND THROUGH
MOHANDAS GANDHI [and some others: Amenhotep, for
ET: What about Maher Baba?
NO, HE IS AN OLD SOUL WHO HAD A VISION.
ET: And Baba Ullah?
THIS IS A YOUNG SOUL WITH DELUSIONS OF GRANDEUR,
SAME AS MAHARAJ GEE.
ET: What about Sri Aurobindo?
HE IS, OR WAS, AN OLD SOUL, FINAL CYCLE; [he] IS
NOW PART OF THE LOWER
CAUSAL BODY. HE IS WORTH EMULATING. WE FIND NO
FAULT WITH HIS WORKS.
RH: I would like to ask about my son, RH Jr.,
whom he has said was a final
cycle Old soul, and he is out there tinkering
with his car. I guess I'm
below him in the cycles and I can't help him.
What can I do to help him?
WE ARE NOT AWARE OF ANY PROBLEMS IN R.H.Jr. WE
FIND NO FAULT WITH HIM. HE
HAS FEW RIBBONS TO BURN. HE HAS ALMOST
COMPLETELY RETURNED TO HIS PRIMEVAL
ESSENCE. HE IS BORED A BIT.
ET: I want to finish my theme now. It helps me
to put this in the
perspective of who to read, who not to read, and
who to listen to.
Apparently, we are going to have a return again
of the Infinite soul around
the year 2,000?
SC: Within 100 years of the appearance of the
Transcendental Soul. It has
happened every time.
WE HAVE TOLD YOU THAT.
RH: There will be an anti-Christ preceding him,
who was born in 1964. He
will lead many astray.
THE ANTI-CHRIST IS NOT "EVIL", JUST MISGUIDED,
BUT IT IS IN THE KARMA OF
MANY TO FOLLOW THIS MAN. MANY HAVE THIS RIBBON
TO DEAL WITH. THERE MUST ALSO
BE AN ANTITHESIS TO COMPLETE THE MONAD. PAUL
[Saul of Tarsus] WILL ALSO
A question was lost in the changing of the
tapes. However, Michael's answer
leads one to assume that the question concerned
John the Baptist, as
described by Seth.
JOHN WAS A FRAGMENT, NOT A MANIFESTATION [of the
Transcendental or Infinite
soul]. PAUL WAS A YOUNG SOUL WHO WAS A ZEALOT
[later said to be a Priest in
The next question was also lost, but it
concerned the fact that John [the
Baptist] was presumably a reincarnation of
YOU ARE CORRECT, ELIAS WAS A PART OF THE
INFINITE SOUL AT THE TIME OF THE
MANIFESTATION. THE CAUSAL BODY EVOLVED. THE HIGH
PLANES EACH HAVE SEVEN
LEVELS. THE FRAGMENTS INTEGRATE AT DIFFERENT
TIMES. WHEN THE INTEGRATION
TAKES PLACE, EVOLUTION SUPERVENES.
RH: Down here where I am, on this poor old
physical plane, could you send me
a little more energy?
TAP THE PROPER SOURCE AND THE ENERGY WILL BE
THERE. EMOTIONAL ENERGY RESULTS
IN A POWERFUL LEAK WHEN USED TO FEED OTHER
SC: Remember what they said the last time, that
you used Emotional Center a
lot. They agreed that you were Intellectually
Centered, but that you used
Emotional Center a lot.
AH: How can he get to the source?
BY NOT REACTING TO THE MAYA OF THE PHYSICAL
PLANE. THIS RESULTS IN A DRAIN.
NO AMOUNT OF STEWING IN ONE'S OWN JUICES WILL
MAKE A MECHANICAL OBJECT
PERFORM BEYOND ITS OPTIMAL LEVEL.
RC: I think that reinforces my statement, RH.
ET: Are they talking about your car?
AH: No, they are talking about him.
ET: I still think that that has to do with his
car and not his body and I
would like clarification.
IT HAS TO DO WITH BOTH THE CAR AND THE BODY.
NEITHER CAN BE PUSHED BEYOND
ITS LIMITS ON THE SHEER FORCE OF EMOTIONAL
SC to RH and ET: By the way, speaking of this,
what is the significance of
AH: Are you getting one?
SC: I had this excruciating pain in my hand, and
we asked Michael what it
was, and they said "SC has a migrating
PJ: Until I went to the doctor the other day,
I'd never heard of that.
ET: Arthralgia means pain in a joint.
PJ: And not inflammation?
ET: Well maybe, maybe not, it doesn't say that.
It just says that there is a
SC: No, I just wanted to know if it was
ET: You can have migratory arthralgia as a
symptom of many things. It does
not point to one disease.
RC: Instead of speculating, let's just ask.
S.C. IS NOT SOMATIZING. S.C. HAS STRAINED THE
RH: If I am evolving at all, it is invisible to
me, and I've been studying
Gurdjieff, and then Ouspensky, and now this, and
the longer I go at this,
the less I seem to know. I seem to be evolving
THIS IS MORE APPARENT THAN REAL. YOU ARE NOW IN
TOUCH WITH THE SYNTHESIS,
AND THIS IS NOT AN EASY CONCEPT. COULD YOU
APPRECIATE THE BEAUTY OF THE
DIFFERENTIAL EQUATION IF YOU DID NOT FIRST HAVE
UNDERSTANDING OF ALGEBRA AND
THE LINEAR EQUATION? THE MORE DIMENSIONS YOU
EXPLORE, THE MORE DIFFICULT THE
RH: But I feel lousy.
THE BODY IS TIRED; THE ESSENCE IS BORED. WHAT
WOULD YOU EXPECT FROM THAT
COMBINATION? WE WOULD EXPECT A WEARINESS OF THE
RH: What can I do?
SLEEP WILL HELP THE BODY. THE ESSENCE MUST
PURSUE ECSTASY IN IT'S OWN WAY,
OR IT IS BORED.
RH: There is no way. I just know there is no
WE THINK THAT YOU WILL FIND THAT WAY.
RC: I will finish the book on Gandhi tomorrow.
Then what should I do?
FIRST MAKE SURE THAT ABSORPTION HAS TAKEN PLACE.
THEN CONTINUE WITH THE
MEDITATION. ANY OF THE ADEPTS AND MASTERS WE
HAVE DISCUSSED THIS EVENING
WOULD BE VALUABLE.
RC: To me, Gandhi seemed weak and sick most of
HIS DIET WAS TERRIBLE.
RC: But was that good work?
IT WAS GOOD WORK FOR HIM. IT ALSO ACCOMPLISHED
HIS PURPOSE. THE HIGH CAUSAL
BODY HAS NO ATTACHMENT FOR THE PHYSICAL PLANE.
RC: But wouldn't he have been more effective if
he had been healthier?
Wouldn't he have reached more people?
NO, HE WOULD HAVE REACHED FAR FEWER. WHEN HE
FASTED, THOSE WHO LOVED HIM
ATTEMPTED TO BRING ABOUT THE CHANGES HE DESIRED
IN ORDER TO PERSUADE HIM TO
BREAK HIS FAST.
At this point the session was terminated by
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