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November 15,
1973
15 November
1973
Could we fund a medical clinic in a similar way
to the ways EST has?
WE ARE HERE WITH YOU TONIGHT. THIS WOULD BE AN
INTERESTING AND NOBLE
EXPERIMENT. OF COURSE, YOUR PATIENTS TREATED IN
THIS MANNER WOULD FIRST HAVE
TO BE CONVINCED THAT WRONG THINKING IS THE BASIS
OF DISEASE. THIS WOULD
REQUIRE LENGTHY INTRODUCTORY SESSIONS. THE ONLY
SOULS WHO WOULD REALLY
BENEFIT FROM THIS APPROACH WOULD OF COURSE BE
MATURE SOULS AND OLD SOULS.
YOUNG SOULS DO NOT POSSESS A DEVELOPED SENSE OF
SELF AND COULD NOT DIRECT
THE KNOWLEDGE INWARD. ALSO THEIR BELIEF SYSTEM
WOULD MITIGATE AGAINST THEIR
ACCEPTANCE. IN ORDER TO MAKE SUCH A VENTURE
PRACTICAL AND SUCCESSFUL YOU
WOULD HAVE TO BUILD WHAT WOULD BE EQUIVALENT TO
A SPA, WHERE PATIENTS COULD
COME AND STAY FOR THE DURATION OF THEIR
TREATMENT. YOU WOULD NOT HAVE TO
WORRY ABOUT EXPENSE. THERE ARE SO MANY PEOPLE
ENROLLED IN ESOTERIC TEACHINGS
NOW THAT YOU WOULD HAVE A WAITING LIST. YOU
WOULD HAVE TO INCORPORATE
VARIOUS MODALITIES WITHIN THIS SYSTEM TO MAKE IT
WORK, SUCH AS: DIET,
MANIPULATION, CORRECT POSTURING, EXERCISE, ETC.
THESE ARE ALL NECESSARY TO
CORRECT BEFORE THE ORGANIC PROBLEMS CAN BE
SOLVED. AFTER ALL, OBESITY IS A
DIRECT RESULT OF WRONG THINKING, YET OBESE
PEOPLE ARE SELDOM CURED BY ANY
OTHER METHOD THAN LOCKING UP THEIR FOOD.
EM: I would like advice regards getting rid of
pain.
WE CAN BE OF ASSISTANCE ONLY IN THAT YOUR
ILLNESS IS A PART OF KARMA FOR
YOU, AND WHEN YOU COME TO GRIPS WITH YOUR
SPIRITUAL CONTROVERSY THE PAIN
WILL NO LONGER BE NECESSARY. THIS CAN BE
ACCELERATED OF COURSE BY THOSE
METHODS WE HAVE OUTLINED FOR THE OTHERS; THAT
IS: MEDITATION, CONCENTRATION,
FASTING AND STUDY. E.M. IS WAGING AN INTERNAL
BATTLE WITH REASON VERSUS
DOGMA. THIS IS NOT UNUSUAL, JUST AGONIZING,
PARTICULARLY FOR SCHOLARS WHO
ARE SLAVES TO REASON.
WE SHOULD LIKE TO CORRECT THE PASSAGE IN YOUR
NOTES CONCERNING THE LADY,
B.M. THIS LADY IS A PRIEST AND NOT AN ARTISAN.
AGAIN, THIS IS AN ERROR IN
TRANSMISSION. THESE WILL HAPPEN OCCASIONALLY AND
WE SHALL ENDEAVOR TO
CORRECT THEM AS WE BECOME AWARE OF THEM.
DON'T BE SURPRISED TO FIND THAT IN THE PAST YOU
WERE SOMEONE OF FAME OR
NOTORIETY. THIS SHOULD NOT SURPRISE YOU AT ALL.
THERE ARE APPROXIMATELY
EIGHTY THOUSAND SIXTH AND SEVENTH LEVEL OLD
SOULS EXTANT ON THE PHYSICAL
PLANE AT THE PRESENT TIME, SEVENTY THOUSAND
APPROXIMATELY FIFTH LEVEL OLD
SOULS, [and] THIRTY THOUSAND FOURTH LEVEL. AND
SO, AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS IS A
SMALL COMPANY WHEN YOU TAKE THE WORLD POPULATION
INTO CONSIDERATION. WE HAVE
DETECTED SOME DISBELIEF, AND YET YOU WERE ALL
YOUNG SOULS AT ONE TIME. THERE
IS A FRAGMENT LIVING QUIETLY IN SUSSEX NOW, AN
OLD SOUL, WHO WAS IN THE PAST
NINE TIMES THE MAYOR OF LONDON.
Where do people stay after death? In what space
are they?
THIS DEPENDS A GREAT DEAL ON THE LEVEL OF THE
SOUL AND THE BELIEF SYSTEM
GOING AT THE TIME OF TRANSITION. FOR INSTANCE,
THOSE WHOSE SOULS MAKE
TRANSITION BELIEVING IN A LITERAL HEAVEN AND
HELL WILL HAVE TO EXPERIENCE
THIS BEFORE THEY CAN EXPERIENCE ANYTHING ELSE,
AS UNFORTUNATELY THEY CREATE
THIS OUT OF ASTRAL MATTER WITH THE THOUGHTS OF
TRANSITION. THEN THOSE SOULS
LIKE [the atheist] JEAN PAUL SARTRE MUST
EXPERIENCE A LONG PERIOD OF
"NOTHING" BEFORE THEY GO ON. THEN THE SOUL
BECOMES A HABITUÉ OF THE LOW
ASTRAL PLANE. THE ALTERNATIVE THREADS CAN BE
PURSUED, THE ALTERNATE COURSES
OUTLINED, AND THE CHOICES MADE.
There was a discussion here regarding Entity
Fragmenting once, regrouping,
then going back to the Tao.
I was David Hume. Was anyone else David Hume?
WHEN YOU WERE DAVID THERE WERE APPROXIMATELY
FORTY INTEGRATED FRAGMENTS [in
your Entity]. BUT TO ANSWER YOUR REAL QUESTION,
NO, THERE IS NO ONE ELSE
ALIVE WHO WAS DAVID. THE FRAGMENTS UNITE -- THEY
DO NOT SCATTER AGAIN.
RF: Is my mother a Fragment of my Entity?
NO. THERE ARE NO KINGS HERE TONIGHT; [There is]
A NEW PRIEST THOUGH.
RH: Who?
E.C.
D: I would like to know my soul level and Role.
[You are a] FOURTH LEVEL MATURE SCHOLAR. THIS
YOUNG MAN HAS DIFFICULTY
TRUSTING INTUITION, WHICH STEMS FROM CHILDHOOD
MISADVENTURES, AND [this] IS
ALSO INHERENT IN THE [Mature] CYCLE.
ET: I would like a definition of any Role and
how it is assigned.
IT IS NOT ASSIGNED. NOTHING IS -- ALL IS CHOSEN.
THE SLAVE IS A SERVICE ROLE
IN A MENIAL SENSE. HOWEVER, IT IS POSSIBLE TO
EXPERIENCE ALL OF LIFE WITHIN
THIS FRAMEWORK. THE SLAVE WILL ALWAYS LOOK
RATHER WOEBEGONE REGARDLESS OF
STATION IN LIFE AND WILL APPEAR POOR REGARDLESS
OF MATERIAL WEALTH. THE
MANIFESTED SLAVE MAKES A GOOD BUT BUSY HOST AS
THEY WORRY ABOUT THE COMFORTS
OF THOSE AROUND. THE SLAVE IN ESSENCE IDENTIFIES
WITH THE WRONGS OF HUMANITY
AND TRIES TO BRING COMFORT IN A MATERIAL SENSE
TO MANY. THE PRIEST IS THE
SLAVE EXALTED. THE PRIEST IS BORN WITH A SENSE
OF GOD-CONSCIOUSNESS OR
"OTHER WORLDLINESS." THE PRIEST IN ESSENCE
CHOOSES A LIFE ROLE WHERE IT IS
POSSIBLE TO BRING COMFORT TO MANY IN A SPIRITUAL
SENSE.
ET: How is Role chosen?
KNOWLEDGE OF ALL ESSENCE ROLES IS ACCESSIBLE TO
THE UNFRAGMENTED ENTITY.
THIS SOMETIMES RESULTS IN A HASTY CHOICE, BUT
REGARDLESS OF THIS HASTE IT IS
ALWAYS POSSIBLE TO EXPERIENCE ALL OF LIFE IN
EACH OF THESE ROLES. THE
WARRIOR IS A LEADERSHIP ROLE. THE WARRIOR LEADS
INSTINCTIVELY. THERE IS AN
INNER DRIVE TO LEAD. THE WARRIOR IS PURPOSEFUL
IN VOICE AND ACTION, OFTEN
POWERFUL PHYSICALLY EVEN THOUGH SMALL IN
STATURE. THE KING IS THE WARRIOR
EXALTED. THESE SOULS LEAD THROUGH INNER
KNOWLEDGE THAT THEY WERE MEANT TO
LEAD. THEY, LIKE THE WARRIORS, ARE REGAL IN
APPEARANCE REGARDLESS OF SIZE.
THE KING COMMANDS YOUR INTEREST WHEN HE WALKS IN
THE ROOM. THE MANIFESTED
KING IS ALWAYS THE DOMINANT PARTNER IN ANY
RELATIONSHIP, WHETHER SEXUAL OR
PROFESSIONAL, AS IS THE MANIFESTED WARRIOR. THIS
RESULTS IN MANY DIVORCES
AND OTHER BROKEN CONTRACTS IN EARLY MIDDLE AGE
FOR BOTH.
RH: Is JS a Lunar Bodytype, a Sage, and what is
his soul level?
THIS YOUNG MAN IS INDEED AN UNUSUAL BODYTYPE. HE
IS AS YOU SAY, A LUNAR
CONCEIVED DURING A PERIOD OF INTENSE SUNSPOT
ACTIVITY. THIS YOUNG MAN IS A
MATURE SAGE.
JS: What benefit or harm is there to stimulating
the acupuncture point known
as the "Divine Door"?
[There is] NO HARM. THE BENEFIT DEPENDS ON YOUR
BELIEF SYSTEM. IF YOU THINK
OR BELIEVE IN IT, IT WILL PROBABLY BE OF
BENEFIT. IF YOUR BELIEF SYSTEM IS
SUCH THAT YOU BELIEVE THAT STIMULATION OF
CERTAIN AREAS OF THE HUMAN BRAIN
SUCH AS THE HYPOTHALAMUS, THE PINEAL GLAND, [or]
THE ANTERIOR PITUITARY
PRODUCES A DOORWAY TO ENLIGHTENMENT, AND THIS
BELIEF IS STRONG ENOUGH,
SOMETIMES THE RESULT IS JUST SHORT OF
MIRACULOUS.
BF: Can a soul take on a dual Role?
NOT IN ESSENCE. HOWEVER, THE LIFE ROLE OFTEN
BEARS LITTLE RELATION TO THE
ESSENCE ROLE, AND IF FALSE PERSONALITY IS FIRMLY
IN COMMAND IT WILL ALMOST
BE IMPOSSIBLE TO DETECT THE ESSENCE ROLE. ON A
PERSONAL LEVEL OTHERS CAN
OFTEN DETECT THE FACADE AND THE UNDERLYING ROLE
BEFORE THE STUDENT CAN.
RF had a question regarding H's mother's ear
problem and avenues of therapy.
WE HESITATE TO OFFER AVENUES OF TREATMENT FOR
THIS LADY OTHER THAN THE MOST
CONVENTIONAL ONES, AS THE LADY WOULD NOT ACCEPT
THEM AND THEY WOULD EFFECT
NO CURE.
RF: Would a plastic tube help? Is that because
of soul level?
THIS IS OF VALUE IN THOSE CASES WHERE FLUID HAS
COLLECTED BEHIND THE
TYMPANIC MEMBRANE, AND WE HAVE KNOWN IT TO ALSO
BE EFFECTIVE IN SOME CASES
WHERE DEAFNESS IS OF PSYCHOSOMATIC ORIGIN. THIS
LATTER IS NOT,
UNFORTUNATELY, ALWAYS PERMANENT, AS THE REASON
FOR THE DEAFNESS IS NOT
ALWAYS REMOVED ALONG WITH INSERTION OF THE TUBE.
THIS IS WHY R.H.'S
SUGGESTION (regarding EST and therapy) HAS SO
MUCH MERIT.
EC: What was I in previous lives. What is the
soul level of myself and my
husband also.
E.C. HAS BEEN LITERALLY A MEMBER OF THE CLERGY
EIGHTEEN TIMES. SHE WAS A
HIGH PRIEST AT THE TIME OF CHRIST, ALSO A MEMBER
OF THE SANHEDRIN ZADIKAM
("Sanhedrina Zadikam": righteous people). THEN
SHE WAS ALSO ONE OF THE LORDS
OF THE INQUISITION. SHE WAS ALSO A BUDDHIST NUN
EARLIER IN THE FOURTEENTH
CENTURY. THIS LADY IS A SEVENTH LEVEL MATURE
SOUL. THIS MAN IS A YOUNG
WARRIOR WHO HAS BEEN A SOLDIER AND AN
ADVENTURER. HE HAS ALSO BEEN A TEACHER
AND MAYOR OF ORLEANS AT THE TIME OF JOAN D'ARC;
FOURTH LEVEL.
RH: Is his planetary influence from Mars and
Jupiter?
THAT IS VALID.
EC: What is the level and Role of my brother?
THIS WAS A TROUBLED FIFTH LEVEL MATURE PRIEST.
(He committed suicide at age
36.)
RH: Where was he troubled, in personality or
soul?
THAT IS VALID. THIS IS A CONFLICT BETWEEN
ESSENCE AND PERSONALITY. IT IS
WHEN THE INDIVIDUAL FRAGMENT CANNOT COPE WITH
THE CONFLICT THAT THE
INTEGRATIVE DEFENSE MECHANISM FALLS APART AND
ALLOWS THE EGO TO DISINTEGRATE
BEFORE THERE IS ANY STRENGTH IN ESSENCE
[contact], LEAVING THE SOUL GOALLESS
AND ADRIFT.
RF: Is this conflict unresolvable?
IT IS NOT UNRESOLVABLE. WITH CAREFULLY CHOSEN
THERAPY OR AN UNDERSTANDING
GURU THE CONFLICT WILL BE RESOLVED. THE
DIFFICULTY LIES IN THE CHOICE OF
THERAPIES.
RH: Is this what we call psychosis?
YES, IN A SENSE. PSYCHOSIS CAN ALSO BE
DRUG-INDUCED.
RH: Is a certain patient of mine a Lunar type
Baby Sage? Is he psychotic?
WE WOULD DEFINE THIS AS NEUROPSYCHOTIC. IN THE
BABY SOUL THE CONFLICT RARELY
BECOMES FULL BLOWN.
RH: Is this man a Sage?
YES. WITH HIM THE CONFLICTS ARISE FROM DESIRES
OF A PHYSICAL NATURE WHICH HE
PERCEIVES AS "EVIL".
EM: Are these suicidal tendencies repetitive
life after life?
NO. SOONER OR LATER THE SOUL LEARNS THAT SUICIDE
IS UNPROFITABLE. FOR
INSTANCE, IF A PERSON WITH TERMINAL CANCER
SUICIDES AND THERE REMAINED FIVE
OR SIX MONTHS OF LIFE WITH ITS ATTENDANT
LESSONS, THEN THAT SOUL WILL
EXPERIENCE INFANT DEATH AT A LATER TIME.
SB: Dr WW has a terminal cancer patient. We
[nurses] react negatively to
this patient. Why do we do this?
PEOPLE WHO ARE DYING ARE NO MORE OR LESS
OBNOXIOUS THAN AT MOST OF THEIR
CRISIS POINTS IN THEIR LIFE. THIS BABY SOUL
PERCEIVES PHYSICAL DEATH AS
PUNISHMENT.
SB: Why can we not overcome our negativity?
YOU PERCEIVE [a] HIGH INDEX OF NEGATIVITY IN
THIS PATIENT AND YOU ARE UNABLE
TO SEPARATE. YOU HAVE NOT BEEN IN THE TEACHING
LONG ENOUGH TO HAVE LEARNED
EFFECTIVE SEPARATION FROM THOROUGHLY OBNOXIOUS
FALSE PERSONALITIES.
ET: Is Michael the entity that WW contacted?
THE ENTITY THEY HAVE RAISED IS A MID CAUSAL
TEACHER. THERE WILL BE NO
DIFFERENCE IN THE INFORMATION.
BF: How can I learn to be less affected by
negativity of those close to me?
YOU MUST FIRST BELIEVE THAT THERE IS NOTHING
THAT YOU CAN DO TO ALTER THEIR
REACTION, AND THAT THEIR REACTION HAS NOTHING TO
DO WITH ANYTHING IN YOUR
OWN FRAME OF REFERENCE. THEIR PERCEPTION OF A
SITUATION AND ITS
RAMIFICATIONS IS SOMETHING THAT ONLY THEY CAN
DEAL WITH, AND THERE IS REALLY
NOTHING THAT YOU CAN DO. KEEP REPEATING THAT TO
YOURSELF EACH TIME IT COMES
UP. FOR INSTANCE: IF E.C. PERCEIVES A SITUATION
INVOLVING HER AND HER
RELATIONSHIP WITH HER SON IN A NEGATIVE FASHION,
WHAT CAN YOU DO?
EM: May we have the definition of Scholar?
WE HAVE GIVEN THIS BUT WE WILL REPEAT. THIS IS
AN INTERMEDIATE ROLE WHERE
REASON AND LOGIC ARE THE FOUNDATIONS UPON WHICH
LIFE IS BUILT. WE DID NOT
SAY THAT SCHOLARS WERE EMOTIONALLY BEREFT, JUST
A LITTLE MORE DISCREET ABOUT
DISPLAYING. E.M. AND E.S. WERE BOTH BORN INTO
EMOTIONAL CULTURAL
ENVIRONMENTS AND BOTH DISPLAY MORE EMOTIONALITY
THAN THE AVERAGE SCHOLAR,
BUT STILL DO NOT APPROACH THE SHEER EMOTIONAL
EXTRAVAGANCE OF OTHER ROLES
SUCH AS PRIESTS AND SAGES.
RH: Is ES a warlike Scholar?
E.S. MIGHT BE TAKEN FOR A WARRIOR BECAUSE OF HIS
BODYTYPE AND HIS VOICE
PROJECTION. HE IS A BIT EMPHATIC.
CH: I would like to know about my past life with
my grandmother?
YOU WERE FIRST BORN TO M.A.H. THIS WAS A
RELATIVELY TRANQUIL LIFE BECAUSE
YOU WERE ENTRUSTED INTO THE CARE OF HOUSEHOLD
SLAVES AT BIRTH. IT WAS A
LARGE HOUSEHOLD AND YOU PERCEIVED THE "NOT ME"
IN A VERY POSITIVE FASHION.
M.A.H. AT THAT TIME WAS THE [words lost].
RH: Have I had an interesting life as a female?
YES, THERE HAVE BEEN A FEW; ONE AS A NUN WHERE
YOU TRAVELED WITH A CARAVAN
ACROSS THE RUBALKHALI TO THE HOLY LAND TO
ESTABLISH A CHURCH IN THE HOLY
LAND. ANOTHER TIME YOU WERE ALSO THE FAVORITE
WIFE OF A MAN WHO MADE GREAT
LITERARY CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE ANCIENT WORLD,
MOST OF THEM ACTUALLY COMING
FROM YOU. YOU HAVE BEEN A NUN MANY TIMES, BUT
ONLY ONCE IN A PENITENT ORDER.
THE OTHER TIMES YOU WERE VERY MUCH IN THE WORLD,
BUILDING AND TEACHING.
ET: Where is Rubalkhali?
YES. IT IS PART OF THE SAHARA DESERT. IT MEANS
"EMPTY QUARTER".
BF: May I know the name of the pirate I was in a
previous life and what time
(century)? Did he bury treasure?
THE NAME OF THE PIRATE WAS ETIENNE DELACROIX.
THE TIME WAS EARLY IN THE
EIGHTEENTH CENTURY. YES, HE DID BURY SOME LOOT
OFF THE COAST OF PORTUGAL IN
HASTE BUT CAME BACK LATER, PICKED IT UP AND THEN
WAS SUNK BY THE SPANISH
SHIPS. THIS TREASURE NOW LIES BENEATH FIFTY
FATHOMS.
S: I would like to know the relationships
between the caste system of India
and roles?
THERE WAS [a relationship] IN THE BEGINNING WHEN
SRI KRISHNA BROUGHT THE
LOGOS TO BEAR. THIS HAS SINCE BECOME BLURRED BY
AMBITION AND MATERIAL
DESIRES.
RH: They suppose that Slaves are born to Slaves.
What we have here is,
everyone has parents in a different Role.
(Questions are confusing because
the tape had ended.)
THIS IS WHERE THE MISINTERPRETATION ARISES. LOOK
AT THE HEREDITARY
MONARCHIES. ONLY TWO MONARCHS IN RECENT TIMES
HAVE BEEN KINGS: ELIZABETH THE
FIRST AND JAMES THE FIRST.
ES: What are the relative quantities of Old
souls. It seems there should be
more. [From what Michael has said,] there seems
to be a minute number in
relation to the total population.
IT NOW HAPPENS THAT ON THIS PLANET THE VAST
MAJORITY OF SOULS ARE YOUNG AND
MATURE SOULS, WELL OVER ONE AND ONE HALF
BILLION. THE BABY SOUL AND INFANT
SOULS TOGETHER EQUAL THE NUMBER OF OLD SOULS
NOW. THIS HAS NOT ALWAYS BEEN,
BUT LIFE ON THIS PLANET IS EVOLVING TO THE POINT
WHERE THERE WILL BE NO MORE
INFANT SOUL ENTITIES CAST INTO THIS FRAME. AT
THIS POINT THE MAJORITY WILL
BE EITHER MATURE OR OLD SOULS, AS IT IS NOW ON
SOLEIL'S WORLD. THERE IS OF
COURSE AN END POINT TO ALL WORLDS WHEN THE STAR
EXHAUSTS ITSELF. THE
EVOLUTION OF LIFE WITHIN A GIVEN SOLAR SYSTEM IS
ALWAYS GEARED TO NOT EXCEED
THE LIFE OF THE STAR. IN OTHER WORDS, ALL LIFE
ON THIS PLANET WILL HAVE
EVOLVED AND COMPLETED LONG BEFORE THIS STAR
EXPANDS TO BECOME A RED GIANT
AND EVENTUALLY SHRINKS INTO A REMNANT DWARF.
D: Is what is known in the medical profession as
the "subconscious" the
essence or the soul?
NO. MOST PSYCHIATRISTS WHERE THEY SPEAK OF THE
SUBCONSCIOUS THEY MERELY
SPEAK OF ALL OF THOSE EXPERIENCES WHICH THE
BRAIN RECORDS BUT YOU CANNOT
IMMEDIATELY RECALL. THE RECALL OF THIS MATERIAL
IS OFTEN BLOCKED BY VERY
EFFECTIVE BARRIERS. SOME FEW PSYCHIATRISTS SUCH
AS [Carl] JUNG BEGAN TO SEE
MORE, BUT FEW HAVE KNOWN OF THE MYRIAD DATA
ACTUALLY AT YOUR COMMAND, MUCH
LESS THE SOURCE.
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