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March
3, 1974
Present:
BS, EM, JH and JH, CC and NC, RH and
AH and CH, RC and SC, MM, BL,
NA, MJ.
MJ:
I
would like to ask about my Chief
Feature and in which Center I am
entrapped. I feel I fluctuate
between Moving part of Emotional
Center
to the Emotional part of Moving.
WE
ARE
HERE WITH YOU. THE LADY, M.J., IS
RIGHT ABOUT THE ENTRAPMENT.
YES, THIS CAN FLUCTUATE. MOST
ADOLESCENTS GO THROUGH A STAGE OF
BEING
ENTRAPPED IN THE EMOTIONAL PART OF
THEIR CENTER. WE SEE MORE
IMPATIENCE IN THIS LADY THAN
SELF-DEPRECATION, AS WE SEE MORE IN
THE
INTELLECTUAL ARROGANCE IN BARBARA —
ALSO A GENERALIZED HAUGHTINESS.
IN EDGAR WE SEE AN ALMOST DOGGED
PERSISTENCE WHICH IS DEFINITELY A
PART OF STUBBORNNESS.
BS:
I
would like to ask about the Essene Gospel
of Peace.
Manuscripts contemporary with Jesus
are said to have strict
prescriptions on diet and bathing,
including a long tube. I would
like some comment on this, if there
is anything there which might
help us along the way.
THE
ESSENE
PRESCRIPTIONS FOR HEALTHY LIVING
WERE AMONG THE PIONEERS OF
FOOD FADS. THEY WERE GOOD ENOUGH FOR
THE TIME WHEN THEY WERE GIVEN.
WE WOULD NOT RECOMMEND THE DIETARY
RESTRICTIONS NOR THE RATHER BRUTAL
METHODS OF CLEANSING THE BODY, WHICH
NORMALLY CLEANSES ITSELF
SATISFACTORILY, PROVIDED THAT IT WAS
HEALTHY. THE MAN JESUS WAS NOT A
MEMBER OF THE SECT. THE MAN JOHN
[the Baptist] WAS. THE MAN JESUS
CAME IN CONTACT WITH THEM IN THE
LATE TEENS AND EARLY TWENTIES, AND
THOUGHT THEM TO BE RELATIVELY
AUSTERE AND NOT FOR MOST PEOPLE.
SOME
OF THEIR DOCTRINES HE ACCEPTED AS
GOOD. THIS IS VALID — SOME WOULD
STILL BE GOOD WORK FOR SERIOUS
STUDENTS. EXPOSURE TO PERIODIC HEAVY
MANUAL LABOR AND AN EXTREMELY STRONG
FEELING OF COMMUNITY WAS THE
HALLMARK OF THE ESSENE SETTLEMENTS.
ALL OF THEM TOOK THEIR TURN IN
THE FIELDS AND IN THE HOUSE, FREEING
THEM FOR SERIOUS STUDY. THEY ATE
ONLY ENOUGH TO KEEP THE BODY
HEALTHY, NEVER TO THE POINT OF
SATIATION. THEY WORE LITTLE
CONSTRICTING CLOTHING. THEY WERE
PERSONALLY CLEAN — ALTHOUGH THEY
CARRIED THIS INTO A RITUAL FORM,
THE IDEA WAS GOOD. THEY ALSO FELT
THAT THE GOOD WAS ITS OWN REWARD,
DRAWING FROM THE HELLENES [ancient
Grecians and their philosophy].
BS:
I
have been told before that I was an
Essene. Is this so?
THAT
IS
VALID: TWO HUNDRED YEARS BEFORE THE
COMMON ERA.
MJ:
What
is the work necessary for me to
becoming untrapped in essence?
THE
WORK
FOR YOU, M.J., INCLUDES MOVING. YOUR
DANCE IS AN EXCELLENT PLACE
TO START, PRECEDED BY YOUR PERIOD OF
MEDITATION, WITH THE THOUGHT OF
PREPARATION FOR THE DANCE. WE SEE
EMOTIONAL INVOLVEMENT. THE WAY
THROUGH TO INTELLECTUAL CENTER IS,
OF COURSE, THE RENDERING OF THIS
TYPE OF INPUT NEUTRAL. THE INABILITY
TO ACCEPT INPUT IN A DETACHED
FASHION SEPARATES YOU FROM THE
INTELLECTUAL PART OF THIS CENTER,
AND
THUS THERE IS A BARRIER TO
INTELLECTUAL CENTER. THE LOVE OF THE
MOVEMENT, OR MORE ACCURATELY, THE
EXHILARATION YOU FEEL WHEN MOVING,
CREATES A BARRIER TO MOVING PART OF
MOVING CENTER. ALL STUDENTS MUST
DISCOVER THEIR AREA OF ENTRAPMENT
AND WORK FROM THERE, EMULATING THE
ENERGY CENTER TOWARD WHICH THEY ARE
MOVING. STUDENTS TRAPPED IN THE
EMOTIONAL PART OF INTELLECTUAL
CENTER RATIONALIZE ALL TECHNICAL
MATERIAL WELL, BUT ROMANTICIZE ALL
OTHER INPUT, TRYING TO FIND THAT
COMPLETELY PERSONAL SLANT. THERE IS
“LOVE” OF LITERATURE AND
WORDS IN THESE SOULS. THEY ARE
NORMALLY EXCEEDINGLY VERBOSE IN
TUTORIAL POSITIONS; NOT SO MUCH IN
OTHERS. THESE SOULS FIND THE
ROMANCE OF THE LOGOS SO ALLURING
THAT THIS ENTRAPMENT IS AMONG THE
MOST DIFFICULT TO SCALE. MOST SOULS
TRAPPED IN THE MOVING PART OF
INTELLECTUAL CENTER ARE VERITABLE
WHIRLWINDS OF INTELLECTUAL
ACTIVITY. THEY SPEND THE ENTIRE
[physical plane] INTERVAL COLLECTING
FACTS, SOMETIMES IN A RANDOM
FASHION, AND SOMETIMES TO NEGLIGIBLE
RESULTS. ON THE OTHER HAND, MANY
INVENTORS, SUCH AS THE MAN THOMAS
EDISON, WERE TRAPPED HERE.
RH:
Are
some intellectual scholars trapped
in the Intellectual part of
Intellectual Center?
IT
IS
POSSIBLE TO BE TRAPPED HERE, R.H.,
AND YES, YOU ARE RIGHT. MANY OF
THE THEORETICAL SCIENTISTS ARE
INDEED IMMIRED IN THE INTELLECTUAL
PART OF INTELLECTUAL CENTER. THIS IS
A ROUTE TO HIGHER CENTERS WHEN
THERE IS BALANCE.
SC:
Is
John Lilly one who is trapped in
Intellectual part of Intellectual
Center?
Everyone
(?)
agreed — at least all those who
said, “Uh huh”.
NC:
I
missed the discussion Wednesday.
Could someone explain that?
Comment:
One
in the Intellectual part of
Intellectual Center looks on things
dispassionately, without emotional
attachment. The name, Edward
Teller, came up, and so we wondered
if he were entrapped there. SC
thought he was in Emotional part of
Intellectual Center.
THE
MAN,
EDWARD, IS ALMOST HOPELESSLY TRAPPED
IN THE EMOTIONAL PART OF
MOVING CENTER.
NC:
Where
am I?
N.C.
IS
ONE WHO FLUCTUATES WILDLY BETWEEN
MOVING AND INTELLECTUAL PARTS OF
INTELLECTUAL CENTER. IN SOME
RESPECTS THIS GIVES HIM AN EASIER
TASK;
IN OTHERS, A HARDER ONE, SINCE
EMOTIONS ARE OFTEN DIFFICULT TO
CONTACT.
RH:
It
is like fingernails on a blackboard
to force myself to do certain
things. I avoid doing them. It is
probably easier for NC to do
certain things.
IT
IS
EASIER, AS R.H. POINTS OUT, BECAUSE
HE DOES HAVE A WAY THROUGH TO
BOTH THE MOVING CENTER AND
EVENTUALLY TO HIGHER CENTERS.
What
is
balance of Centers?
Comment:
Access
to all Centers at will when required
— that is, all Centers
doing their correct work, not wrong
working, such as growing ulcers
and causing hypertension, etc.
RH:
Is
agape a function of the spirit and
not the body?
IT
IS
OF THE ESSENCE, YES.
RH:
I
need outside help in order to
experience this.
THAT
IS
THE ADVANTAGE OF BEING IN A
TEACHING. YES, THERE IS VIRTUALLY NO
WAY OF ACHIEVING THIS ON YOUR OWN —
A SCHOOL IS NECESSARY.
RH:
I
am not a meditator. Nonetheless, I
feel Michael is in contact with
my spirit even thought I am not
aware of this. Is this so?
WE
HAVE
GREAT HOPES THAT THIS COMING
EXPERIENCE WILL BRING YOU THE
DIRECT ACCESSES FOR WHICH YOU LONG.
YES, WE ARE WITH YOU ALWAYS NOW,
AND IT WOULD BE GREATLY FACILITATED
BY LEARNING TO RELAX THE BODY AND
THE PERSONALITY SO THAT WE CAN SPEAK
TO YOU. MOST OF YOU STUDENTS
HAVE THE MOST DIFFICULTY WITH
RELAXATION. TODAY IS AN EXCELLENT
TIME
TO PHOTOGRAPH THIS, AS THE LITTLE
ONES CREATE THE DISTRACTION AND ALL
THE MOVING CENTERS GO INTO ACTION.
RH:
Will
getting the Moving Center into
action help with this [relaxation
and meditation]?
THAT
IS
VALID, AND WE FEEL A POSITIVE STEP.
THE RELAXATION WILL ALSO COME
FAR MORE EASILY TO THE TIRED BODY.
THERE IS ALSO A DRIVE IN MANY
STUDENTS TO INVOLVE THEMSELVES
HEAVILY IN WHAT THEY CONSIDER
“USEFUL”
ACTIVITY. SOMETIMES THIS CAN BE USED
AS A GOOD GUIDE TO WHERE THE
WORK IS.
Comment:
In
other words, take a look at the
activities one uses just to fill
the hours.
FOR
INSTANCE,
MANY WHO ARE TRAPPED IN THE
INTELLECTUAL PART OF
INTELLECTUAL CENTER MUST INVOLVE
THEMSELVES ONLY IN INTELLECTUALLY
STIMULATING AND REWARDING
EXPERIENCES. MANY TRAPPED IN MOVING
CENTER
ARE CONSTANTLY “DOING THINGS”, AND
CONSIDER ALL ELSE RATHER
FRIVOLOUS. SOULS TRAPPED IN
EMOTIONAL CENTER FIND IT DIFFICULT
TO SIT
THROUGH AN EVENING OF “HEAD STUFF”,
OR THEY ALSO DISLIKE THE
MODERN DANCING, AND [other dancing]
WHERE THERE IS LITTLE BODY
CONTACT AND MUCH WILD GYRATIONS.
Could
we
have something on the Moving part of
Emotional Center?
THE
“LOVE
OF ACTION”. THESE SOULS MAKE IDEAL
SPECTATORS, AND WILL
YELL THEMSELVES HOARSE AT ALL
SPECTATOR EVENTS. THEY RARELY
PARTICIPATE, BUT [they] WILL DRIVE
HUNDREDS OF MILES TO SPEND A
WEEKEND AT A SKI LODGE. THE ROMANCE
OF MOVEMENT PREVAILS HERE WITH
LITTLE ACTIVE PARTICIPATION.
It
has
been said that the Intellectual part
of Emotional Center is the
seat of the “magnetic center”
[another Gurdjieff term for that
within yourself that draws you to
the spiritual path] for [spiritual]
teachings. Is this so?
THAT
IS
VALID. IT ALSO PRODUCES THE TOP
HISTORIANS AND SOCIAL SCIENTISTS,
MOST WRITERS AND JOURNALISTS, MANY
WAR CORRESPONDENTS,
ANTHROPOLOGISTS, AND ARCHAEOLOGISTS.
IN THIS [emotional] PART THE
INTELLECT IS ROMANTICIZED.
CC:
Am
I in the Intellectual part of
Emotional Center?
THAT
IS
VALID.
RH:
I
would like to ask about EE. He leads
a simple, healthy life in
essence. He uses his Moving Center
and enjoys what he does.
THIS
MAN
NOW HAS ACCESS TO THE SUM OF THE
MOVING CENTER. HE NEEDS ONLY TO
PURSUE HIS PRESENT LINE OF INTERNAL
QUESTIONING TO COME INTO BALANCE.
RH:
Would
this be good for me, to reach the
Moving part of Emotional
Center?
YES,
THAT
WOULD BE A GOOD START FOR YOU. THIS
IS, OF COURSE, THE “COSMIC”
ROMANTICIZED. THE ROUTE TO
SUBJECTIVE CONSCIOUSNESS IS MORE
EASILY
ATTAINABLE THROUGH THE EMOTIONAL
CENTER. THE ROUTE TO FULL OBJECTIVE
CONSCIOUSNESS IS NOT NORMALLY
ACHIEVED BY THOSE ON THE PHYSICAL
PLANE. THAT IS NORMALLY A PHENOMENON
OF THE TRANSCENDENTAL SOUL.
RH:
I
think Ouspensky was said not to be
subjectively conscious. Was he
trapped in the Intellectual Center?
HE
WAS
NOT SUBJECTIVELY CONSCIOUS. HE WAS
TRAPPED IN INTELLECTUAL
CENTER, THAT IS VALID. THIS WAS A
FIFTH LEVEL OLD SAGE WHO WAS A GOOD
STUDENT.
RH:
What
was meant by him saying, “Abandon
the system and start a
school [based] on [fulfilling] your
‘wants’?”
MANY
CONFUSE
“WANTS” AND “NEEDS”. THIS IS WHAT
WAS MEANT HERE.
“NEEDS” WERE IMPLIED WHILE “WANTS”
WERE VERBALIZED.
MJ:
Gurdjieff
was said to be Moving Centered and
his students
Intellectual, while Ouspensky was
Intellectual and his students were
mostly Emotionally Centered. Is
there a good combination for
teacher-student relations?
IT
IS
COMMON [for this sort of thing to
happen]. IT IS NEITHER GOOD NOR
BAD; IT IS SIMPLY THAT THE STUDENTS
SENSE SOMETHING IN THE TEACHER
THAT THEY CANNOT REACH.
RH:
Does
false personality come into play for
people who have cancer?
SOULS
WHO
CHOOSE THE GOAL OF RETARDATION AS A
MEANS OF BURNING KARMA
DELIBERATELY CHOOSE PARENTS WITH
KNOWN GENETIC FAULTS. FOR INSTANCE,
NOT ALL WOMEN OVER FORTY PRODUCE
RETARDED CHILDREN, AS WITH SEVERAL
MEMBERS OF THIS GROUP, AND YET, SOME
DO. THEY CHOOSE PARENTS WHO HAVE
POOR CIRCULATORY SYSTEMS AND
HEREDITARY DISORDERS THAT ARE
HARBINGERS
OF EARLY DEATH. SOULS IN REJECTION,
HOWEVER, MANY TIMES CHOOSE SUPER
GENETIC HERITAGES ONLY TO DESTROY
THEIR BODIES DURING THE PHYSICAL
INTERVAL.
MJ:
Are
children more balanced than adults,
and does the entrapment take
place in adolescence?
THE
SPECIFIC
CENTER IS CHOSEN PRIOR TO THE
INTERVAL, BUT THE ENTRAPMENT
TAKES PLACE DURING CHILDHOOD,
USUALLY DURING ADOLESCENCE, WHEN THE
CHILD IS THE MOST VULNERABLE [to]
CULTURAL IMPRINTING.
MJ:
Can
this happen earlier than
adolescence?
YES,
AND
LATER.
MJ:
Why
are some children imprinted less
than others?
CHILDREN
IN
EXALTED ROLES AND DOMINANT GOALS ARE
NOT EASILY IMPRINTED.
SC:
I
can verify that by the Sage who
lives at our home.
RH:
Does
the “waking sleep” [the Gurdjieff
term for those not on the
spiritual path] result from being
entrapped [in a Center, unable to
grow spiritually, to raise the
kundalini]?
YES.
“THE
CAVE” (by Plato) WAS ANALOGOUS TO
THIS ENTRAPMENT. (You see
shadows of what is going on and
imagine things from what you think
is
real.)
EM:
Is
there any technique I can use to
detach myself from Maya?
WE
HAVE
GIVEN THOSE TO YOU, E.M. THEY ARE
AGAIN: MEDITATION,
CONCENTRATION, AND FASTING, AND
STUDY.
EM:
What
do I need to get in touch with?
Which Center am I trapped in?
(Some said Intellectual, but EM
thought Emotional.)
WE
AGREE
WITH THAT [Emotional Center]. E.M.
NEEDS TO GET IN TOUCH WITH
THE DETACHED PLATEAU OF THE
INTELLECTUAL PART AND THE
ACTION-LADEN
MOVING PART.
EM:
What
I meant was that I think the thing
tying me down is mental
laziness. I can’t stick to it
(meditation). What technique can I
do
that is not a chore for me?
THE
MENTAL
INERTIA IS NOT UNCOMMON TO SOULS
STUCK IN THIS SPOT — THEY
USUALLY SUFFER FROM THIS. THE
TECHNIQUE DOES NOT MATTER NEARLY SO
MUCH AS THE DILIGENCE WITH WHICH YOU
APPLY IT AND THE VALUE YOU
ASSIGN IT ON YOUR PRIORITIES.
EM:
In
other words: try, try, and try
again.
THAT
IS
VALID.
MJ:
I
would like to ask about the Thane
Walker (sp?) school in Shasta. It
was said he studied with Gurdjieff.
It consists of listening to
tapes.
THIS
IS
A SIXTH LEVEL MATURE SAGE WHO WAS IN
A GURDJIEFF-ORIENTED
TEACHING.
EM:
Will
I get an opening in the Monroe
workshop?
WE
CANNOT
PREDICT THIS. [We] ONLY CAN SAY THAT
THREE ARE NOW CONSIDERING
CANCELING SINCE THEY RECEIVED THEIR
PROGRAMS.
BL:
What
part of Emotional Center am I
trapped in? Can you fluctuate? I
have spurts of energy, and other
times I am reticent.
THERE
IS,
OF COURSE, DISHARMONY (of Centers),
BUT THE SOUL WHO IS NOT A
SEEKER ORDINARILY DOES NOT RECOGNIZE
THIS AND BLAMES THE DISCOMFORT
ON EXTERNALS.
BL:
What
Center am I trapped in?
THE
EMOTIONAL
PART OF EMOTIONAL CENTER. IF SHE
WISHES BALANCE SHE MUST
REACH INTELLECTUAL AND MOVING
CENTERS.
How
much
does the Attitude determine where
one is trapped?
VERY
MUCH.
MOST OF THE IMPRINTING OF EARLY
CHILDHOOD IS VERY EFFECTIVELY
CONVERTED INTO TAPE LOOPS.
RC:
Is
bias [the same thing as] tape loops?
A
MAJOR PART OF IT, YES. SOME ARE, OF
COURSE, ORIGINAL.
Comment:
When
there is bias through the Ouija
board, there is distorted
information due to thought patterns
of the one operating the board.
THE
BIAS
IS MOST EASILY DEFINED AS THE
ABSOLUTE LIMIT OF THE INDIVIDUAL’S
BELIEF SYSTEM.
[Page
missing.]
AN
INTERESTING
EXERCISE AS A PRELIMINARY WOULD BE
TO ATTEMPT TO COMPLETE
THE SEX ACT IN SILENCE.
Is
that
without moaning and groaning?
SILENCE
IS
SILENCE.
NA:
If
I am a Sage, why am I not more
verbal?
YOU
REPRESS
IT. THE DESIRE IS THERE.
NA’s
Goal
was said to be Acceptance. Could we
verify that?
WE
WILL
STICK TO THAT. YOU SEE THE CHIEF
FEATURE.
RH:
Some
people I see their Goal, some I see
their Role, some Chief
Feature. Some feature of the
Overleaves comes through as the
strongest thing, and I have trouble
with the soul Level.
BL:
What
is my Chief Feature: Stubbornness?
The Spirituality may cover
Arrogance.
WE
STILL
SEE SOME STUBBORNNESS, BUT IT IS
VALID THAT B.L. HAS ALMOST
EXTINGUISHED THIS.
BL:
Is
L Moving Centered? Is this why I
have trouble with her?
OH,
YES,
THERE ARE SOME TRUE MISMATCHES. THIS
IS NOT ONE OF THEM. SHE
WILL CALM SOME THIS SUMMER.
RH:
In
NA I sense some stress not explained
by the Overleaves.
THAT
IS
TRUE. THE KEY LIES WITH HER. NOW SHE
KNOWS WHERE THESE BARRIERS
ARE.
RH:
I,
too, have a sense of stress and lack
of ease. Is this wrong work
of Centers?
THAT
IS
TRUE, R.H. WHEN YOU LEARN TO TRULY
RELAX, YOU WILL EXPERIENCE MORE
FREQUENT INTERVALS OF TRANQUILLITY,
AND THEN YOU WILL BEGIN TO
ACTIVELY SEEK THIS.
RH:
What
wrong Centers am I using?
INTELLECTUALIZING,
MOSTLY.
RH:
When
one is tranquil, is the essence in
control?
THE
ESSENCE
IS TRANQUIL, YES.
RH:
Agape
love sputters for only fifteen
seconds and it does not happen
often. Is this moving toward a # 4
person? [This is Gurdjieff’s
term for a “centered”, balanced,
individual.]
WE
AGREE.
IT IS A DIFFICULT PLACE TO BE, BUT
DEFINITELY REWARDING.
RH:
In
the tranquil period, are Centers
balanced?
USUALLY
THE
SOUL EXPERIENCES A MOMENT OF
BALANCE, YES; ALSO DURING
MEDITATION.
RC:
Does
the soul transfer this to the body?
ESSENTIALLY.
THE
BODY IS NOT AS THREATENED BY OTHER
ASPECTS OF SPIRITUAL GROWTH,
JUST AS THE SEA URCHIN IS NOT
THREATENED BY A CALM SEA.
Does
the
body fight meditation?
SOMETIMES,
YES.
MOVING CENTERED BODIES FIGHT IT
TOOTH AND NAIL. INTELLECTUALLY
CENTERED BODIES LESS, BUT STILL
FORCEFUL.
MJ:
Is
it easier sitting up straight rather
than relaxed?
Comment:
You
do not wish to fall asleep and there
is a danger when prone.
RH:
How
does the “adept” and “occult master”
correlate to the #
4, # 5, and # 6 man of Gurdjieff?
THEY
ARE
NOT PRECISELY THE SAME, ALTHOUGH THE
ADEPT IS USUALLY
CRYSTALLIZED NUMBER FOUR. THE OCCULT
MASTER HAS USE OF HIGHER CENTERS
AT WILL. IT MERELY MEANS THAT THIS
SOUL IS IN BALANCE WITH NO DANGER
OF BACKSLIDING.
AH:
Is
it necessary to have a personal
mantra? [In Transcendental
Meditation, the guru gives each
individual a special unique “mantra”
to repeat during meditation.]
NO,
IT
IS NOT. THE ONE WE HAVE GIVEN WORKS
FOR MANY.
AH:
I
would like to ask if there is any
karma between me and a certain
man. Every time I am near him there
is embarrassed silence, and I
cannot figure it out.
NO
KARMA.
IT IS HIS GUILT AND INHIBITIONS.
AH:
What
is the SRGA of PL — Mature soul in
Stagnation, an Artisan,
Saturn?
THIS
MAN
IS AN IDEALIST, [a] THIRD LEVEL
MATURE ARTISAN IN SUBMISSION;
MOSTLY SATURNINE. [You have] NO
KARMA [with him], JUST A SEQUENCE.
RH:
PM
felt fear of BH’s violence. Is her
fear valid? He seems benign
to me.
HE
ENTERTAINED
FANTASIES OF THIS, YES, AND SHE
PERCEIVED IT. IN THIS
MALE IT WAS PURE FANTASY.
SC:
Is
R’s Chief Feature Self-destruction?
RH:
And
is PM’s [Chief Feature]
Self-destruction?
BOTH
HAVE
MARTYRDOM.
Is
this
BH’s Chief Feature, also?
ALSO.
RH:
Where
is AC?
IN
GROWTH,
AN IDEALIST, ARROGANT, EMOTIONAL
PART OF MOVING CENTER.
NA:
Where
is JA?
[He
is]
EMOTIONALLY CENTERED NOW WITH THE
INTELLECTUAL PART BEGINNING TO
PREDOMINATE.
Where
are
JH and JH’s children:
THE
LITTLE
ONE IS NOT IMPRINTED, SO IS FREE
FLOWING. THE OLDER GIRLS ARE
FAIRLY SOLIDLY IN THE EMOTIONAL
PARTS.
JH:
What
about a colleague, C?
C.
IS
A FOURTH LEVEL MATURE ARTISAN IN
STAGNATION. THIS [neutral
pattern] OFTEN OBSCURES THE ROLE.
RH:
I
feel a sense of loss with [my
daughter] KH. It reminds me of
Matthew, when there was a knock at
the door and Jesus said, “Thy
family are without”, and He said,
“You are my family”. I feel
she has left us, and there is a
great sadness. I resent this from
RB’s group.
WE
UNDERSTAND
THE RESENTMENT. INCIDENTALLY, [in]
THIS PARTICULAR
INSTANCE, WE SEE THE ADVICE [of RB
to KH to separate from her family]
AS BAD WORK. IN MANY CASES, HOWEVER,
THERE IS MUCH NEED IN THE
STUDENTS TO SEPARATE FROM DEMANDING
PHYSICAL RELATIVES. THE MAN,
R.B., MUST LEARN TO DIFFERENTIATE.
RH:
Did
RB find out about the transcripts?
IT
WAS
SUGGESTED [by RB] TO K.H. THAT SHE
NOT HEAR THIS [Michael
teaching] ANY MORE.
RH:
There
are those who left “life” [to join
RB’s group] without
paying some large debts, and it
appeared that RB encouraged this.
WE
WOULD
NOT ENCOURAGE THIS. OF COURSE NOT.
RH:
RB’s
group is also a “C” [cosmic]
influence group. How can this
be?
THE
CONFLICT
WILL BE RESOLVED WHEN THIS MAN
EXPERIENCES THE MANIFESTATION
OF THE TRANSCENDENTAL SOUL. HE IS
RIGHT IN SAYING THAT INTERNAL
CONSIDERATION [changing your
behavior based on what you think
other
people will think about the
behavior] IS THE LAST TO GO, AND
THIS IS
A PHENOMENON OF THIS.
RH:
Internal
consideration is the only single
thing that operates
continuously.
THIS
INSIGHT
IS ESSENTIALLY VALID. THOSE IN
DOMINANCE DO THE LEAST
INTERNAL CONSIDERING; THOSE IN
ACCEPTANCE THE MOST. THOSE IN GROWTH
FLUCTUATE DEPENDING ON THE
ENVIRONMENT.
How
about
the internal considering of those
with the Goal of Rejection?
[They
do]
INNER CONSIDERING OF A VERY NEGATIVE
SORT. THERE IS SOME, OF
COURSE, BUT YOU ARE RIGHT: NOT MUCH.
[There is] VERY LITTLE, ALSO, IN
RETARDATION.
JH:
Was
KM Joanna?
DO
YOU
THINK SO?
Yes.
WHY
DO
YOU DOUBT THE PERCEPTION?
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