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March
20, 1974
resent: MJ, PJ,
M (first time), A, SC and RC, RH and AH and
CH, SM, JH, ET, BL, MM,
NA, LS (first time).
What
is
the SRGA of CD — a Young soul
Mercury, in Acceptance, an
Idealist?
THIS
SIXTH
LEVEL YOUNG ARTISAN IS A
SPIRITUALIST, NOT AN IDEALIST — ALL
ELSE VALID; IN ARROGANCE, WITH A SUB
FEATURE OF VANITY [elsewhere
said to be the negative pole].
The
group
attempted M’s SRGA: late Level
Mature or early Old soul in
Acceptance, a Realist, an Artisan in
Dominance or Growth, Mars-Venus;
some said Jupiter, some said
Jupiter-Lunar, and one said Jupiter
with
some Mars.
THE
LADY,
M, IS A SIXTH LEVEL MATURE PRIEST IN
DOMINANCE WITH A CHIEF
FEATURE OF IMPATIENCE. THIS LADY IS
MOSTLY JOVIAL, SOME MARTIAL, A
REALIST, IN THE INTELLECTUAL PART OF
EMOTIONAL CENTER.
M:
Knowing
this has what significance to the
group?
Comments:
It
helps explain behavior. We are more
able to accept or allow
unconditionally anyone with whom we
come in contact. It is helping us
work towards Agape.
M:
I
read the group’s book and would
suggest a glossary would be most
helpful, with definitions of such
words as Maya, Monad, logos, and
karma.
WE
PROPOSE
AN EXERCISE IN PSYCHIC PHOTOGRAPHY
FOR ALL OF YOU AS FOLLOWS:
BEGIN TO PHOTOGRAPH YOURSELVES
REACTING TO SUGGESTIONS OF CHANGE
WITH
THE STATEMENT, “I CANNOT”. THEN
REALIZE THAT THIS IS NOT TRUE.
SOMETIMES THE TRUTH WILL BE THAT YOU
DO NOT AT THE PRESENT MOMENT
POSSESS THE REQUIRED SKILLS OR
KNOWLEDGE, BUT MORE OFTEN THAN NOT,
THE TRUTH WILL BE, “I DO NOT WANT
TO”. THIS IS VITAL, AND A
POSITIVE STEP ON THE PATH. YOU CAN
HELP BY PHOTOGRAPHING EACH OTHER
IN THIS. ALSO, ALL OF YOU ARE GUILTY
OF USING THIS AS AN EXCUSE MANY
TIMES A DAY TO SHIFT THE BLAME, AND
THIS ACCOMPLISHES THAT NICELY.
YOU PRESENT THEN THE PICTURE OF A
STUDENT AT THE MERCY OF THE COSMOS,
WHICH IS, OF COURSE, ABSURD.
PERSONALITY SETS UP MANY BARRIERS
ALONG
THE [spiritual] PATH. THIS IS MERELY
ONE OF THEM, AND CHIPPING AWAY
AT THIS WILL ONLY RESULT IN THE
UNCOVERING OF MANY MORE SIMILAR
GUISES. THE GOAL OF THE ORGANISM IS,
OF COURSE, SURVIVAL. SEXUALITY
IS MADE MORE DIFFICULT BY CULTURALLY
IMPOSED BARRIERS AND ARTIFICIAL
CONDITIONS. THIS IS ANOTHER BARRIER.
DENIAL OF THE PLEASURES OF
EATING, SLEEPING, AND JUST BIDING
YOUR TIME ON A PLEASANT, SUNNY DAY
ARE MORE. THE PERSONALITY CAN COME
UP WITH MANY EFFORTS TO
RATIONALIZE WHY THESE PLEASURES
SHOULD NOT BE EXPERIENCED: THEY ARE
NOT GOOD FOR YOU; THEY COST TOO
MUCH; THEY WASTE TOO MUCH TIME; THEY
ARE NOT USEFUL; THEY ARE EVIL;
ETCETERA.
AH:
Are
you sure that’s Michael?
WE
ARE
MOST INTERESTED IN THE FACT THAT
SOME OF YOU FEEL THAT THIS DATA
IS SOMEHOW DIFFERENT. WE WOULD ASK
THAT YOU EXAMINE YOUR FEELINGS
AROUND THIS. WE SENSE PRESSING
QUESTIONS IN THE MINDS OF MANY, AND
ARE MERELY ENDEAVORING TO PAVE THE
WAY TO MORE OPEN EXPRESSION.
PJ:
It
seems there has been progress made
in that we are not jumping
subjects around so much.
THERE
HAS
BEEN SOME IMPROVEMENT, YES, BUT WE
SEE MUCH SCATTERING IN THE
AIMS OF THE VARIOUS SOULS INVOLVED
IN THIS. WE WOULD STILL SEE SOME
MORE COHESION, AND MUTUAL PURPOSE
SHOULD ARISE THEN THAT SHOULD
ELIMINATE THE SCATTERING.
ET:
I
see a purpose evolving in ST’s
group; it has a therapeutic
format, and takes an upset and the
accumulated information [sic]. It
takes into account karmic ribbons
from past lives and how this has
affected us and others. I would like
to hear some feed back on how we
are doing.
THESE
SPECIFIC
CONFLICTS ARE BEST HASHED OUT IN THE
SMALL GROUPS, OR
PREFERABLY ALONE, USING EITHER THE
TECHNIQUES PRESENTED TO THE LADY,
S.T., OR THE ALTERNATIVES SUGGESTED
TO R.C. AND R.H.
An
attempt
was made to explain primary,
secondary, and tertiary upsets,
and how one must go back to the
original upset. Those who have been
through EST understand this, but
were having difficulty explaining it
to the rest.
THE
BODY
DOES NOT LIKE PAIN, OBVIOUSLY, AND
WILL ERECT AS SWIFT A BARRIER
AS POSSIBLE BETWEEN ITS RECEPTORS
AND THE PAIN. IT IS SOMETIMES BY
FAINTING, SOMETIMES BY MORE SUBTLE
DENIAL.
MJ:
Is
our interest to deal with pain?
THAT
IS
VALID, AS THIS IS THE ONLY WAY THAT
THE ESSENCE CAN EXPERIENCE
PAIN — THAT IS, VICARIOUSLY. WE [who
are non-physical] HAVE NOTHING
ANALOGOUS TO PHYSICAL PAIN.
ET:
If
you experience out the pain, then
you do not have all sorts of
(psychological) crap to go through.
Instead, you are ready for new
experiences if you have experienced
the pain at the time it happened.
MJ:
It
sounds like the only way would be to
cultivate a way to leave the
body.
ET:
You
would be running away.
A:
I
see a parallel to Rolfing. The
theory behind that is, Rolfing
unlocks the structures of muscles
and the tightness caused by
emotions and feelings when physical
pain has been inflicted.
MJ:
Would
you treat the trapped part [of one’s
Centering] first? Could
treatments be recommended for
specific Centers? For example, could
I
be Rolfed and then go to hypnosis?
THIS
COMBINATION
COULD BE EXTREMELY AFFECTIVE AS IT
WOULD “KILL TWO
BIRDS WITH ONE STONE”.
MJ:
Is
the order important?
WE
WOULD
TREAT THE TRAP IN YOUR CASE. WE SAY
THIS SPECIFICALLY IN YOUR
CASE BECAUSE OF THE DIFFICULTY ONE
WOULD HAVE WITH TRANCE INDUCTIONS
WITH THE NEED TO RELEASE SO MUCH
STORED UP ANXIETIES. THIS WOULD NOT
ALWAYS RUN TRUE. MOST OF THE TIME WE
WOULD TREAT THE CENTER FIRST.
SM:
What
Center am I in? (The group came up
with Intellectual part of
Moving Center.)
WE
HAVE
NO QUARREL WITH THAT.
SM:
I
would like to ask about my husband,
GM: what is his Center.
THE
MAN,
G.M., IS NOW TRAPPED IN THE
EMOTIONAL PART OF INTELLECTUAL
CENTER.
MM:
Do
I have any karmic ribbons or ties
with my mother which may cause
me to have negative feelings there?
NO,
THIS
IS NOT KARMA. IT IS SIMPLY A CASE OF
SOME OF THE OVERLEAVES
REPELLING EACH OTHER. THIS IS NOT AN
UNUSUAL PHENOMENON. THIS LADY IS
VERY DIFFERENT FROM YOU.
MM:
I
will agree to that. She is Dominant
and into religion. She is ill —
cardiac arrest, lung collapsed, toe
amputated, diabetic.
THIS
FIFTH
LEVEL BABY WARRIOR IS IN DOMINANCE,
WITH A CHIEF FEATURE OF
ARROGANCE. SHE IS A SPIRITUALIST,
TRAPPED IN THE MOVING PART OF
EMOTIONAL CENTER, MOSTLY JOVIAL,
SOME MARTIAL.
SC:
What
is the SRGA of Billie Graham? I
would say Fifth Level Young Sage
in Dominance and Arrogance. He’s
either a Spiritualist or an
Idealist.
THIS
MAN
IS A THIRD LEVEL YOUNG SAGE IN
DOMINANCE, YES, WITH A CHIEF
FEATURE OF ARROGANCE, BUT A
SPIRITUALIST, AND YES, TRAPPED IN
THE
EMOTIONAL PART OF MOVING CENTER, A
SOLAR-MARS.
RH:
Solar
makes it a prototype body with much
energy.
M:
I
would like to ask my husband, R’s,
level and so forth.
THIS
IS
A SECOND LEVEL MATURE SAGE IN
SUBMISSION, A PRAGMATIST WITH A
CHIEF FEATURE OF SELF-DEPRECATION.
M:
Could
Michael comment on the emotional
triangle of R, A and me? What
is going on?
SOME
TESTING,
OF COURSE, AS YOU ALREADY KNOW, BUT
THERE IS ALSO A GENUINE
ELEMENT OF SEARCHING OUT SOMEONE WHO
CAN FILL IN THE EMOTIONAL GAPS.
THE MAN BEING A PRAGMATIST IN
SUBMISSION IS NOT AS EMOTIONALLY
ACTIVE
AS YOU WOULD LIKE; CERTAINLY IS NOT
A FIREBRAND. THIS IS NOT UNUSUAL.
THE WAY IT IS HANDLED ULTIMATELY IS
THE IMPORTANT POINT. THIS COULD
BE A GROWTH PROCESS FOR ALL THREE.
RH:
What
is A’s Goal and Chief Feature? (PJ
and RH came up with
Idealist in Acceptance and Chief
Feature of Impatience, Jovial-Lunar,
essence trapped in the Intellectual
part of Intellectual and
Emotional part of Intellectual.)
WE
AGREE
WITH R.H. AND P.J. EXCEPT FOR THE
BODYTYPE, WHICH IS MOSTLY
JOVIAL, SOME MARS.
PJ:
Could
you pursue this as to what it means
for A to deal with the
discomforts?
PRIMARILY
THIS
MEANS TO HIM THAT THERE IS EXCESSIVE
SUBJECTIVE RATIONALIZATION
MOST OF THE TIME SINCE THE MAN, A.,
SPENDS MOST OF THE TIME IN THE
EMOTIONAL PART OF THE CENTER, THEN
THERE ARE PERIODS OF INTENSE
DETACHED RATIONALIZATION.
A:
I
would like to hear a comment on M’s
and my relationship.
AT
THE
PRESENT TIME, WE FIND NO FAULT WITH
THIS.
A:
I
would like to ask about a lady.
THIS
LADY
IS IN DOMINANCE WITH A CHIEF FEATURE
OF GREED. THIS LADY IS A
SPIRITUALIST, WHICH MITIGATES THIS
SOME. (We established that the
Greed was not material greed.) WE
SEE MUCH POWER PLAYING HERE, AND A
JOCKEYING FOR CONTROL. ALSO MUCH
DENIAL. A MAN HERE SEES SERIOUS
PHYSICAL ILLNESS, WHICH IS PROBABLE.
MOST LIKE THIS DO EVENTUALLY
SOMATIZE (convert psychological
illness to physical illness). SHE IS
A BABY SLAVE.
AH
How
does this Greed differ from
Dominance?
SUBSTANTIALLY,
WE
WOULD SAY. THERE IS IN THE DOMINANT
SOUL A DESIRE TO LEAD OR
COMMAND RESPECT. IN THE GREEDY,
THERE IS THE DESIRE TO ACCUMULATE OR
ACQUIRE WHATEVER THE GREATEST NEED
DICTATES, THE MOTTO BEING, “MORE,
PLEASE”.
SC:
Is
TW in Greed?
WE
SEE
THAT, YES.
JH:
Do
I have any karmic things with ET or
NA or JH?
YOU
HAVE
NO ADVERSE KARMIC RIBBONS WITH THE
OTHERS HERE NOW, BUT MANY
INTERWOVEN SEQUENCES, YES. YOU HAVE
KNOWN E.T. MANY TIMES. WE HAVE
TOLD YOU OF YOUR PREVIOUS ENCOUNTERS
WITH THE LADY, N.A., ALSO WITH
THE LADY, K. THE MOST RECENT TIME
FOR YOU TO HAVE BEEN IN A SEQUENCE
WITH E.T. WAS DURING THE EARLY PART
OF THE THIRTEENTH CENTURY IN
EUROPE.
JH:
What
was my occupation then?
YOU
WERE
ALSO AT THIS TIME A BUSINESS MAN, A
BANKER.
ET:
What
was I?
DILETTANTE.
HE
WAS ALSO MALE THEN; ALSO FRENCH.
JH:
Did
I know [my husband] JH then?
YOU
CERTAINLY
DID HAVE DEALINGS. PART OF YOUR
PRESENT FINANCIAL DILEMMA
STEMS FROM THAT. WE WILL DISCUSS
THIS WITH YOU BOTH.
PJ:
Does
NA have Fragments of her Entity
here?
NOT
AT
THIS TIME.
BL:
Do
I have any Fragments here?
SOON.
JH:
Will
I meet Gaius soon?
YES.
AH:
Do
[my husband] RH and I have karmic
ribbons?
NOT
FINANCIAL.
AH:
What
then?
THE
FINANCIAL
PROBLEMS ARISE MOSTLY OUT OF THE
SCRAPES FROM THE DIFFERING
OVERLEAVES. MOSTLY THE TWO OF YOU
AGREED TO PLAY OUT THIS SEQUENCE —
THIS TO HELP YOU COMPLETE A MONAD
WHEN YOU WERE BARREN. [This
lifetime they had several children.]
AH:
Have
I been a mother before?
YES,
MANY
TIMES; A FATHER, ALSO.
AH:
It
sure didn’t seem like it when that
first baby came. It took me
ten minutes to change the diapers,
and when I finally got the pins in
right, they were wet again.
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