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March
17, 1974
Present:
SM, EM, RH and AH and CH, SC, JH and
JH, CS.
RH:
On
death: As far as I’m concerned, the
only thing that thinks and
lives, goes with death, and I cannot
imagine anything going beyond
death. You either die slowly with
age or illness or rapidly in an
accident. When you’re eaten by a
hungry crocodile, you actually
become that crocodile.
OF
COURSE,
THE PERSONALITY DREADS THE
DISCONTINUITY OF PHYSICAL LIFE,
FOR WHEN THE ORGANISM DIES, YES,
THAT [personality] DIES ALSO, BUT
MORE OF THAT WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY
YOU SURVIVES BEYOND THE GRAVE. THIS
YOU WILL UNDERSTAND MORE FULLY WHEN
YOU PROGRESS [spiritually]. THE
LAYERS WILL GRADUALLY PEEL AWAY TO
GIVE YOU A GLIMPSE OF THAT WHICH
LIVES ETERNALLY AND DOES NOT DEPEND
UPON THE ORGANISM FOR EXPRESSION.
MANY FACETS OF YOUR LIFE NOW ARE
COMING FROM THAT IN ESSENCE. THE
TASK IS TO RECOGNIZE THEM AND
CAPITALIZE ON THEM RATHER THAN THE
NEGATIVE ASPECTS OF THE PERSONALITY.
THE PERSONALITY IS JUDGMENTAL
AND ARGUMENTATIVE. THE PERSONALITY
BASES ITS ACTIONS ON THE CULTURAL
MORES IN WHICH IT MOVES. THE SOUL OR
ESSENCE DOES NONE OF THESE, AND
FEELS THE FREEDOM. PERCEPTION IS
PURPOSELY BLURRED BY THE
PERSONALITY, FOR IT COULD NOT
SURVIVE IF THE ESSENCE TOOK COMMAND,
BUT THE ESSENCE PERCEIVES ON ITS OWN
— AND THE LESSONS LEARNED BY
THE SOUL ARE SOMETIMES QUIT
DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU WOULD
SUSPECT BY
RECOUNTING YOUR “CONSCIOUS”
EXPERIENCE. AS R.H., THE SOUL SEES
BEYOND THE BRAIN BARRIERS SET UP BY
THE ORGANISM IN ORDER TO CUSHION
THE SHOCKS [block the pain]. IN
OTHER WORDS, THE [ultimate
spiritual]
REWARD WOULD NOT SEEM GREAT ENOUGH
FOR THE ORGANISM TO CONTINUE WITH
THE “ABSURDITY” [of pain, so it
would block the pain, and hence
the reward — the other half of the
pain-pleasure Monad]. YOU HAVE
BEGUN TO PEEL THE LAYERS AWAY, AND
SO WE WOULD SAY THAT YOU, R.H.,
ARE PERCEIVING FAR MORE THAN YOU
GIVE YOURSELF CREDIT FOR. THE PAIN
THE BODY ENDURES WHILE BEING MUNCHED
UPON BY A CROCODILE IS SECONDS
ONLY COMPARED TO THE CYCLE OF THE
SOUL.
RH:
[As
I see it,] The soul is another guy
who calls himself “RH”. If
I [the body-personality] am asleep
and Michael talks to me [my soul],
I do not hear them.
THE
PERSONALITY
HAS AN EXTREMELY LIMITED CAPACITY
FOR EXPERIENCING
POSITIVITY. WHENEVER YOU EXPERIENCE
UNSOLICITED PLEASURE, YOU ARE
EXPERIENCING IT FROM ESSENCE. THIS
IS WHY THE EXTINGUISHMENT OF
NEGATIVITY IS SO VITAL TO SPIRITUAL
GROWTH. IF YOU HAVE NOT GUESSED
THIS YET, THE PERSONALITY IS THE
NEGATIVE POLE OF A MONAD [and
essence is the positive pole].
RH:
Going
through life without love is
ridiculous, yet this is what most
people do. Love only interferes with
survival.
ALSO,
IT
INTERFERES WITH THE PERSONALITY’S
TASK, WHICH IS SURVIVAL.
THE
THOUGHT
PROCESS IS GOOD, BUT THE SEMANTICS
BOTHER US: FOR WHEN WE
SPEAK OF AN ENTITY WHICH HAS BEEN
MANY MORE THAN JUST R.H., THE
“MACHINE”, IF YOU WILL, IS R.H. THIS
TIME, AT LEAST. THE SOUL OF
THAT FRAGMENT IS NOT THE TRUE R.H.,
BUT THE TRUE ESSENCE OF THE
FRAGMENT THAT IS NOT R.H.
EM:
The
soul is more than RH alone; is it
more an angel or what?
NOT
WITH
ANY CREATIVE PROCESS, BUT YES, WITH
A GREATER SPIRITUAL
EXISTENCE THAN IS TRAPPED IN THE
BODY.
Could
you
clarify this?
IT
IS
JUST A MATTER OF PURE SEMANTICS. THE
TRUE R.H. IS “MERELY THAT
WHICH YOU SEE BEFORE YOU” — IN OTHER
WORDS, THE PERSONALITY
LIVING IN THAT BODY. THIS TRUE R.H.
IS SEPARATE AND APART [from the
soul and essence] NOW, BUT DOES NOT
HAVE TO BE. BUT TO SAY THAT IS
THE TRUE R.H. DOES NOT DO THIS
ESSENCE JUSTICE, FOR IT [the soul]
HAS
ALSO BEEN THE TRUE PIERRE, THE TRUE
JACKIE, THE TRUE MARTIN, THE TRUE
AMELIA, AND MANY OTHERS.
EM:
Is
the soul within the body? If the
soul is a mirror, then it’s
outside.
“OUTSIDE”
IS
A RELATIVE TERM AND IS ONLY
APPLICABLE ON THE PHYSICAL PLANE.
THE
SOUL EXPERIENCES IN MORE THAN THREE
DIMENSIONS, THEREFORE IS
“OUTSIDE” PARTIALLY OF THE THREE
DIMENSIONAL PHYSICAL SPACE. WE
WOULD PREFER THAT YOU THINK OF THIS
[soul] IN TERMS OF “ENVELOPING”
[the physical body] RATHER THAN
“OUTSIDE” OF [it].
RH:
I
have this “other guy” theory of the
soul.
THAT
IS
VALID. YOU BROUGHT TO THIS INTERVAL
A WEALTH OF EXPERIENCE AND
KNOWLEDGE THAT IS YOURS TO TAP AT
WILL. THE TAPPING IS UP TO YOU, BUT
IT IS YOURS IF YOU WISH IT.
JH:
Is
this intuitive knowledge or
scientific knowledge or both?
BOTH.
RH:
I
discovered in the out-of-the- body
weekend [with Robert Monroe]
that I was asleep. If Michael talked
to me [my soul], I [my
personality] do[es] not remember.
EM:
I
had a twilight dream when I was half
awake and half asleep. I
actually heard someone taking a bath
in a pail of water in my living
room saying, “This disease — I just
can’t get rid of it”.
Then he shuffled down the hall
dragging his feet, muttering, “I
can’t get rid of it”. I actually
asked him, “What’s the
matter with you?” and I woke up and
realized I recognized him as
me.
THAT
WHICH
YOU CALL “TWILIGHT” IS, OF COURSE,
THE THRESHOLD TO ASTRAL
PROJECTION. OF COURSE, IT WAS YOU —
THE ESSENCE OF YOU. THE
PERSONALITY STILL WISHES TO COMPARE
AFFLICTION TO EVIL, AND THUS THE
WASHING AWAY THAT YOU PERCEIVE IS
SPLENDIDLY SYMBOLIC. GIVEN YOUR
RELIGIOUS TRAINING, IRONICALLY, THIS
COULD WORK.
Does
the
essence see?
THE
PERSONALITY
OFTEN WHEN PERCEIVING THE ESSENCE
SEES IT AS EVIL. THIS
SHOULD COME AS NO SURPRISE TO YOU.
THE ESSENCE IS NOT BOUND DOWN BY
ANY CULTURAL MORAL CODE, AND ITS
PERCEPTION OF THE GOOD IS QUITE
DIFFERENT. OFTEN THE PERSONALITY
REELS IN REPUGNANCE FROM THE SOUL.
EM:
“Religious
training”, “this could work” — what
do they
mean?
RH:
If
you had a choice, EM, between
physical and religious healing, what
would you choose?
YES,
YOU
ARE QUITE RIGHT, R.H., SOME
STRUCTURAL DEFECTS ARE UNREPAIRABLE,
BUT THE SPIRITUAL HEALING IS FAR
MORE LASTING THAN THE TEMPORARY
PHYSICAL ONE. THE AFFLICTION THAT
THIS MAN HAS CAN BE MADE FAR MORE
LIVABLE THAN IN THE PAST, AND THE
DESTRUCTION HALTED AT THIS POINT IN
THE MAN, E.M. THE FEELINGS OF SELF
PITY ARE GRADUALLY FADING INTO THE
BACKGROUND, ALLOWING THE MAXIMUM
HEALING TO PROCEED.
EM:
I
suppose it is ego that wants to be
healed physically. If we could
learn how Michael operates, we could
make a big jump. What good was
it for Lazarus to be raised from the
dead unless he learned what was
behind all this? Why bother?
CS:
I
had a perception about my recent
shoulder injury. I had a feeling I
was going to fall. Was this a true
impression, or did I influence
myself to fall? I have never done
anything like that before.
WE
WOULD
THINK THAT THIS WAS TRULY
PRECOGNITIVE.
INORDINATE
FEAR
OF FAILURE IS A PART OF ARROGANCE;
TIMOROUSNESS A PART OF
SELF-DEPRECATION. WE SEE NONE OF
THIS IN C.S., BUT WE SEE MUCH
STUBBORNNESS. SHE IS AN IDEALIST.
THE LADY IS RELYING MORE NOW ON HER
INTUITIVE KNOWLEDGE THOUGH, AND THAT
IS GOOD.
EM:
Why
did I choose this disease?
(Editor’s
note:
I am not sure of the preceding
question. Please write your
questions on 3x5 cards if accuracy
is wanted.)
WE
DISCUSSED
THIS BEFORE, BUT FOR YOUR
INFORMATION, YOU DID NOT CHOOSE
THE SPECIFIC DISORDER, JUST THE
GENETIC PROPENSITY. IT WAS NECESSARY
THAT YOU SEEK THE TEACHING IN SPITE
OF GREAT PHYSICAL DISABILITY TO
COMPLETE A MONAD.
EM:
Which
Monad?
THE
ONE
LEFT HANGING OVER FOR TWO THOUSAND
YEARS. THE MAN, E.M., WAS A
STRONG MAN THEN — PHYSICAL STRENGTH,
YES; THE HEALTH-SICKNESS
(Monad) AS A SEEKER, WOULD BE MORE
ACCURATE.
EM:
We
are supposed to experience the
rich-poor monad, the
health-sickness Monad, the love-hate
Monad, the positive-negative
Monad, etc.; when you die, you get
out of this into paradise. When
we’re here, we are dead to the
spirit.
THE
DEATH,
OF COURSE, IS SYMBOLIC, AND REFERS
TO THE COMPLETION OF THE
RAISON D’ÊTRE (French for “reason
for being”, “justification
for existence.”)
EM:
How?
How? How can this solve the reason
to be?
IF
THE
PERSONALITY CAN TAKE LEAVE LONG
ENOUGH TO CONSIDER THE TASK OF
THE SOUL, THEN THIS WILL BE CLEAR.
THE TASK ON THE PHYSICAL PLANE IS
TO EXPERIENCE “ALL OF LIFE”. MANY
MONADS ARE NOT COMPLETED FOR
MANY CENTURIES. OTHERS MUST BE
COMPLETED BEFORE THE SOUL CAN
PERCEIVE
AT A HIGHER LEVEL OF BEING. THE
MONADS ARE THE ONLY REASON TO BE
THAT
WE KNOW OF.
EM:
Is
that what kicked us out “up there”?
We were not in contact
with our essence?
THERE
IS
WITHIN YOU AN ESSENCE THAT IS A
SPECIAL FRAGRANCE — THAT IS YOUR
TRUE SOUL. YOU, E.M., WOULD PERCEIVE
THIS ENTITY AS EVIL IF YOU WERE
TO ENCOUNTER US IN A PHYSICAL
MANIFESTATION OR EVEN ON THE ASTRAL
PLANE.
How
about
others’ perceptions?
THE
PRIESTS
WOULD NOT; MANY OF THE OTHERS WOULD.
WE
KEEP
TELLING YOU THAT THE DESIRES OF THE
SOUL ARE THE ANTITHESIS OF
THE DESIRE OF THE ORGANISM.
LIBERATION IS ONE OF THESE,
UNENCUMBRANCE
IS ANOTHER, PLEASURE IS THE
GREATEST. WE WOULD SEEM QUITE
HEDONISTIC
TO MOST OF YOU.
CS:
I
would like to ask about a feeling I
had after going to church for
the first time in a long time. I
felt like I was hit over the head.
My heart was squeezed. The minister
was looking at me. I can’t
remember what he said.
RELIGIOUS
RITUALS
ARE EXCELLENT FOR RELEASING TRAPPED
EMOTIONS.
CS:
I
would like a comment of the fall I
had and the flashes while
falling. I heard a voice say,
“Relax”, just before an eighty five
foot drop.
IF
THE
LADY, C.S., HAD NOT FELT THE
PRECOGNITIVE FLASH AND HEEDED IT,
SHE WOULD HAVE BEEN KILLED. IN THAT
SECOND, SHE CHOSE ANOTHER
ALTERNATIVE. IT IS VALID THAT ONCE A
PARTICULAR MODE OF DEATH HAS
BEEN EXPERIENCED BY A FRAGMENT, THAT
MODE HOLDS NO SPECIAL FEAR FOR
THE FRAGMENT. NEAR ESCAPES OFTEN
ERASE FEAR. BOTH C.H. AND S.C. HAD
MUCH COMBAT WITH LARGE ANIMALS IN
THE PAST.
CS:
The
first person to reach me after my
fall asked me if I was OK and
it was like I was zapped with
energy. Was this Michael? It gave me
energy enough to walk back 3 miles.
AN
ENTITY
WARNED YOU, YES.
CS:
How
about the “zap” of energy?
THE
EXPERIENCE
BROUGHT THIS SOUL A MOMENT OF
CLARITY, AND YOU WERE ABLE
TO DRAW UPON THIS.
CS:
Anytime
someone is in an accident, does it
help to have someone touch
you like that and ask you how you
are?
IF
THE
COMFORT IS NOT AUTOMATIC OUT OF
SYMPATHY THROUGH THE PERSONALITY.
(CS
took
over the board for SC.)
SC:
I
would like to ask about this guy I
know who denies all psychic
phenomena, yet he is the most
psychic person I know. He has
psychic
experiences all of the time. I would
say that he is a Mature soul,
Scholar, Skeptic, with a Chief
Feature of Arrogance. He’s a
Mercury-Venusian, and in Emotional
part of Intellectual Center.
THIS
IS
ESSENTIALLY VALID: SECOND LEVEL
MATURE. YOU HAVE BEEN MISLED IN
THE ARROGANCE. THIS MALE IS TRYING
TO CONTROL HIS LIFE AND WILL NOT
PRESENTLY ADMIT THE PRESENCE OF
OUTSIDE INFLUENCES BECAUSE THEN HE
WOULD NOT BE IN CONTROL. THAT
EXPLAINS HIS SKEPTICISM.
He
has
trouble with his wife. She said she
would leave him. Is this
Stubborn Dominance?
THAT
IS
VALID.
SC:
Is
Margaret Mead a Warrior?
THIS
ENTITY
IS A THIRD LEVEL YOUNG SOUL. SHE IS
MOSTLY MERCURIAL WITH
VENUSIAN INFLUENCE. THERE IS STRONG
DOMINANCE IN THIS SAGE . THIS
AGAIN IS STUBBORNNESS. SHE IS, OF
COURSE, AN IDEALIST.
(Board
back
to SC.)
THE
LADY
C.S. IS AN IDEALIST. YOU ARE STILL A
SECOND LEVEL OLD SOUL. WHEN
THE TRANSITION OCCURS, YOU WILL BE
THE FIRST TO KNOW.
SM:
I
would like to ask about my husband’s
sister. She is giving him
trouble. She is working on her
seventh husband. She is probably a
troubled soul — trouble follows her
everywhere she goes. She is
difficult and hard to get along
with. She deserted her second
family.
She used to be quite beautiful.
FIRST
OF
ALL, THIS IS A CYNIC IN GREED, A
BABY SOUL KING IN REJECTION. (A
third Level Baby soul.)
SM:
I
would like to ask about my ninety
year old father who is living
with us. He fathered nine children;
talks much; slender. He tortures
me. He is senile. I would like to
know if there is anything I can do
to cope with the irritation.
THIS
IS
A FOURTH LEVEL BABY SOUL; MOSTLY
LUNAR, SOME JOVIAL. THIS MAN IS A
STOIC, [with a] CHIEF FEATURE OF
IMPATIENCE. HE IS IN ACCEPTANCE.
SM:
I
would like to ask about my mother.
She has a congenital heart
condition and had nine children. She
is a living miracle. I would say
she was a Warrior in Acceptance.
THIS
LADY
WAS A FOURTH LEVEL YOUNG WARRIOR IN
ACCEPTANCE. SHE WAS MOSTLY
MERCURIAL, SOME SATURNINE, WITH A
CHIEF FEATURE OF MARTYRDOM. THIS
LADY WAS A PRAGMATIST.
JH:
I
would like to ask about flying
saucers and a book I’ve read about
them. Are these creatures from
Soleal’s planet?
[They
are]
FROM OTHER WORLDS. SOLEAL’S WORLD
HAS NOT BEEN INTO
EXPLORATION AS MUCH AS OTHERS. THEY
ARE INTERESTED NOT ONLY BECAUSE
OF THE ASTRAL CONTACT.
JH:
The
book says that people have come upon
very short men with luminous
uniforms, packs on their chests with
hoses connecting, outside the
space craft doing repair work on the
space craft. What about the heat
that was felt?
MOST
INTERSTELLAR
SPACECRAFT ARE WELL PROTECTED, AND
ALL OF THE LANDING
CRAFT ARE MAGNETICALLY SHIELDED FROM
WITHIN. THIS IS IMPENETRABLE AND
DOES PRODUCE SOME HEAT. THE EFFECT
WOULD BE FELT BY [any]ONE
VENTURING TOO CLOSE, UNTIL THE
VEHICLE WAS DECOMMISSIONED [turned
off].
JH:
Will
Soleal come within four months?
YES,
PERHAPS
JULY OR AUGUST. SOME CREATURES HAVE
DIFFICULTY BREATHING ON
YOUR PLANET BECAUSE OF DIFFERENCES
IN ATMOSPHERIC CONSTITUENTS: NOT
SO WITH SOLEAL’S PEOPLE. THEY WILL
NOT EXPERIENCE ANY DIFFICULTY AT
SEA LEVEL.
JH:
Are
other planet people using the moon
as a base station, as a
stopping off point, as I read about
astronaut Edgar Mitchell seeing
footprints up there? During the moon
series, the government repressed
the photographs which showed objects
on the moon including dome
shapes and a Maltese cross.
IT
HAS
BEEN USED FOR OBSERVATIONS. SOME ARE
FASCINATED BY YOUR STRIFE,
BUT MOST ARE INTERESTED IN MARS.
Why
Mars?
Mining?
THAT
IS
VALID. THEY ARE MORE ECOLOGY-MINDED
THAN YOU ARE. THERE IS OIL,
YES.
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