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Michael have any comments on us
having a small executive committee
for the purpose of steering?
AGREE THAT THIS IS BECOMING MORE
ESSENTIAL NOW THAT THE GROUP IS
GROWING SO LARGE. YOU MUST ALSO
LEARN TO BE FIRMING YOUR RESOLUTION
ONCE THE POLICIES HAVE BEEN
ESTABLISHED, BUT LEAVING ROOM FOR
EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES. WE AGREE
THAT A TRIP TO THE LIBRARY CAN BE
ARRANGED SO AS NOT TO INTERFERE WITH
THE TEACHING, AND THAT THIS IS
NOT THE TYPE OF ABSENCES THAT SHOULD
BE ENCOURAGED. INCIDENTALLY, WE
ONCE WARNED YOU ALL THAT YOUR
ACTIVITIES WOULD BECOME SUSPECT, AND
THAT YOU WOULD COME TO BE REGARDED
AS ECCENTRIC. ONCE YOU ELECTED TO
PURSUE THIS, YOU VOLUNTARILY PLACED
YOURSELF OUTSIDE THE MAINSTREAM,
ESPECIALLY IN THIS CULTURE. YOU MUST
BE PREPARED FOR THE RESULTS OF
THIS ACTION, WHICH WILL INCLUDE MORE
ADVERSE PUBLICITY AND BREAKS IN
RELATIONSHIPS WITH THOSE WHO CANNOT
UNDERSTAND AND ARE FRIGHTENED OF
THIS TYPE OF ACTIVITY.
be secretive about it?
ON SECRECY WILL DEPEND IN THE LONG
RUN ON YOUR OWN DESIRES
TO WEAR THE CLOAK OF DIGNITY, AND WE
DO FEEL THAT THIS IS ADVISABLE.
for secrecy won’t be that great, as
we will know how to handle
THE ACTIVITY WILL SERVE TO TONE DOWN
ANY SENSATIONALISM AND
THE DANGER OF LURING IN FALSE
STUDENTS WITH GLAMOUR.
new people and eliminating them
before they came to a
PROCESS SHOULD NEVER STOP SHORT OF
AT LEAST ONE SESSION
WITH OLDER STUDENTS. WE WOULD ADVISE
TRANSMITTING THE INFORMATION IN
A STRAIGHTFORWARD MANNER, VERBALLY.
the first criteria for a new student
is whether they can accept
that there are planes above the
ALMOST BE YOUR FIRST QUESTION TO NEW
STUDENTS. (Next,) WHETHER
OR NOT THEY ARE WILLING TO ACCEPT
THE NECESSARY DISCIPLINE NEEDED TO
GROW SPIRITUALLY. ALSO IT WOULD HELP
TO KNOW WHAT THEY EXPECT FROM
SUCH A GROUP EXPERIENCE, AND THEIR
DEFINITION OF SPIRITUAL GROWTH.
be check points, and people would be
able to make a decision
whether to go on or not.
also need to know that this is an
intellectual teaching of
meant by “intellectual teaching”?
what you have learned intellectually
as knowledge into what
you do — “being” [a Gurdjieff term].
[To use a Biblical
reference:] It is “turning water
OF COURSE, OUR TEACHING ALSO. THE
DISCIPLINE, OF COURSE, INCLUDES
GOING TOWARD BALANCE THROUGH
CONCENTRATION, MEDITATION, AND OTHER
CONSCIOUS[ness] RAISING TECHNIQUES;
ALSO THE UNDERSTANDING AND
ULTIMATE COMPLETE ACCEPTANCE OF ALL
OTHERS, LEADING TO THE SPIRITUAL
AGAPE WHICH IS THE DOORWAY TO TRUE
Gurjieff group the leader’s emphasis
was on being more silent.
In Gurdjieff’s system, it was stated
that everything you said was a
lie, and so we had to be very
careful with words.
THAT MUCH WORK NEEDS TO BE DONE BY
ALL OF YOU HERE PRESENT
TOWARD ELIMINATING ALL NONESSENTIAL
DIALOGUE. THIS, OF COURSE, MAY
EVENTUALLY RESULT IN YOUR BEING
ACUTELY UNCOMFORTABLE WHEN YOU ARE
NOT WITH OTHERS IN THE TEACHING.
THIS IS ONLY ONE OF THE MYRIAD
REASONS FOR SPIRITUAL COMMUNITIES
SUCH AS WE HAVE SUGGESTED. SILENCE
COMES MUCH MORE EASILY TO THOSE WHO
ARE SECURE IN THE LOVE OF THOSE
have to experience the truth-lying
Monad as part of everything. We
should not be afraid to speak up. In
order to learn in this area, we
need feedback. If you are silent,
you never expose yourself.
were more silent, would this help us
in working on false
comment on the statement that
everything is true, no matter who
says it and when they say it?
A VALID EXERCISE (to say “That is
true” for everything that is
said, no matter how untrue it feels
to you at the time) FOR
would like to ask about the “witch
hunt” at work. What is the
purpose of their doing this and
talking so awful? I can’t separate.
SHOULD ENABLE YOU TO DISSOCIATE FROM
THIS DESTRUCTIVE LIFE
GAME. IT IS PLAYED ALL OVER.
is, “I’m right and you’re wrong”.
IS ALSO: I AM SO WELL AND YOU ARE SO
remain aloof, but it affects me.
DO NOT DISSOCIATE, YOU RUN THE RISK
OF BECOMING A LEADING PLAYER
— AND A LOSING ONE AT THAT.
would like to ask what the source
and validity of Stanford’s book,
Spirit Unto the Churches.
IS COSMIC. THE VALIDITY IS GOOD.
Gurdjieff group, the leader did not
call his school a religion;
it was a school of “consciousness”.
Ours is a teaching also, and
not a religion, isn’t it?
DIFFICULTY IN THAT WORD IS THAT IT
TIES INTO DOGMA, AND THAT IS
NOT RELIGION. WE WISH TO TEACH A
JOYOUS RELIGION WITHOUT DOGMA, AND
SO DECLINE TO LABEL IT. JESUS DID
NOT CALL HIS TEACHING
also be a pleasant shock when it all
MORE YOU WILL FIND YOURSELVES
IMMERSED IN THE PLANNING STAGES.
got through with planning for the
PLANNING OF A VERY DIFFERENT SORT,
BUT ALL THE RULES ARE
APPLICABLE. SINCE THIS IS A PLANNING
STAGE, THIS MEANS THAT DECISIONS
WILL BE MADE, AND YOU WILL BE LEFT
TO START THE IMPLEMENTATION OCTAVE
WITH A DEDICATED CORE.
our task to provide the spiritual
base for the Oregon community?
THAT THAT WOULD BE IN MANY RESPECTS
THE IDEAL START. WE FEEL
THAT WHEREVER YOU ARE, YOU MUST HAVE
ADEQUATE FACILITIES TO
ACCOMMODATE TRANSIENTS WHO SEEK YOU.
WE ARE INTERESTED IN
CENTRALIZING THIS TEACHING AND
ELIMINATING THE MOST DISTRACTING
DUPLICATIONS THAT NOW OCCUR,
PREVENTING MOST OF YOU FROM SERVING
THE LIMITS OF YOUR ABILITY.
many who are alive in the physical
today who are in The
NOW ON THE PHYSICAL PLANE. MANY
WATCH FROM OTHER PLANES.
gathering because of the “new
coming”? Is our source
SOUL IS ONLY SUCH WHEN IT MANIFESTS
ON THE PHYSICAL
PLANE. NOW WE ARE PART OF THE MID
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