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February
27, 1974
Present:
NA, CC, JH and JH, RC and SC, RH and
AH and CH, PJ, ET, MJ.
CH:
Does
the next Overleaf have to do with
outlooks?
WE
ARE
HERE WITH YOU. THAT IS CLOSE, BUT
WAS NOT THE ONE WE WOULD GIVE
NEXT. WE WOULD TELL YOU TONIGHT THAT
THERE ARE PRIMARILY SEVEN
NEGATIVE OUTLOOKS, OR WHAT YOU HAVE
BEEN CALLING “CHIEF FEATURES”.
ALL VARIATIONS ARE MERELY
PERMUTATIONS OF THESE.
FIRST,
WE
WOULD SAY THAT WHEN ALL OF THE
OVERLEAVES HAVE BEEN GIVEN, WE
INTEND TO TAKE PERSONALITIES FROM
THE PAGES OF HISTORY AND COMPARE.
THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS THAT MANY
OF YOU HAVE FELT THE DRIVE TO
TAKE UP THE STUDY OF HISTORY AT THIS
LATE DATE.
RH:
I
feel that history is a deviation
from the search for consciousness
in the here and now. People from the
past are dead, so I cannot feel
them. They seem hypothetical.
CH:
May
we have the next Overleaves?
THESE
CHIEF
FEATURES CAN BE STATED AS:
IMPATIENCE, ARROGANCE, GREED,
STUBBORNNESS — WHICH INCLUDES
TENACITY — SELF-DEPRECATION,
MARTYRDOM, [and] SELF-DESTRUCTION.
CC:
Half
are outwards and half are inwards.
AH:
Can
these be changed in our lifetime?
Can you get rid of them?
YOU
MUST
GROW TO EXTINGUISH THIS.
In
other
words, we must go through our Chief
Features to arrive at
agape.
YOU
MUST
GROW TO THE POINT WHERE THIS [Chief
Feature] IS NO LONGER A
BARRIER TO AGAPE. THE PERCEPTIONS OF
THE TRANSCENDENTAL SOUL CAN BE
USED AS A GUIDE FOR “CONSCIOUSNESS”,
AT LEAST, SUBJECTIVELY SO.
OBJECTIVE CONSCIOUSNESS CAN BE
COMPARED TO THE PERCEPTIONS OF THE
INFINITE SOUL. [The concepts of
“subjective and objective
consciousness” came from the
Gurdjieff teaching.}
RH:
Things
in personality are keeping me from
my essence. Anything
subjective can be called personal
agenda, and needs to be worked
with.
BY
PERSONAL
AGENDAS, WE REFER TO THE IRRELEVANT
THOUGHTS FLITTING
THROUGH THE MIND AND PREVENTING A
FOCUS UPON THE TEACHING — THE
PROJECTIONS INTO THE BUSINESS WORLD
AND THE MOVIE YOU SAW THREE YEARS
AGO; AN UNPAID BILL — THESE ARE THE
ITEMS TO WHICH WE REFER.
RH:
I
must bring the teaching to my job,
as Michael is not going to bring
me a suitcase full of money in order
to meet my bills.
YOU
CANNOT
EVEN HOPE TO BECOME SUBJECTIVELY
CONSCIOUS UNTIL YOU HAVE
MASTERED THIS FINE ART OF
CONCENTRATION.
Must
one
work out the Monads with his own
Fragments [of his Entity]?
NO,
YOU
CAN WORK THEM OUT WITH ANY OTHER
FRAGMENT. THERE ARE SPECIFIC
MONADS WHICH MUST BE COMPLETED AT
EACH LEVEL BEFORE THE PERCEPTIONS
CHANGE.
RC:
Are
there 120 Monads? That’s what I got
in meditation.
NO,
MANY
MORE.
RC:
Is
there a specific number?
YES.
THE
NUMBER IS A FINITE ONE.
RH:
Why
not wait until you are on the astral
level to study it
objectively? Why study while on the
subjective, life level? If you
are dispassionate, you are in no
position to do anything.
ET:
You
are not creating karmic ribbons this
way.
RH:
Why
start while you’re here?
MANY
SOULS
CHOOSE THIS AS A METHOD OF
ACCELERATING [their spiritual
evolution].
AH:
We
have to experience living while on
the physical plane, don’t we?
THAT
IS
VALID. DURING THE ASTRAL INTERVAL,
THE STUDY IS RETROSPECTIVE AND
UNCHANGEABLE. HERE YOU HAVE THE
OPPORTUNITY TO CHANGE RIGHT UP UNTIL
THE LAST BREATH IS DRAWN.
RH:
The
concept smacks of Christian
forgiveness of sins — it has the
same flavor.
THERE
MUST
BE A PERCEPTION BEHIND THE WORDS.
HOWEVER, THE WORDS HAVE BEEN
MUTTERED MANY TIMES IN MEANINGLESS
CONTEXT BECAUSE THEY WERE
LITERALLY BLOWING IN THE WIND AND
ADDRESSED TO FORCES COMPLETELY
DETACHED AND UNABLE TO EVEN ANSWER.
IN ORDER TO HAVE THIS CONCEPT
MADE VALID, THE SITUATION MUST BE
APPREHENDED AND THE PLEA ADDRESSED
TO THE CORRECT SOURCE.
RH:
According
to Gurdjieff, only with a conscious
teacher can one “do”
anything. Most people plea when
anything goes drastically wrong,
“God
help me!”. At EST we learned that
only “I” am responsible for
the mess “I’m” in. We have to look
inward and not put the blame
on something outside ourselves.
THAT
IS,
OF COURSE, VALID. WITHOUT A TEACHER,
YOU CAN DO NOTHING; YOU ARE
BLIND AND DEAF — ”ASLEEP”.
ET:
Could
Michael comment on “man cannot do”,
as in [the Gospel of]
John [in the Bible, where Jesus said
, “I can do nothing of myself,
but the Father in me doeth it”].
E.T.,
THIS
IS TRUE. YOU CANNOT DO THIS ON YOUR
OWN. THE ENTIRE PLANET WOULD
IF THIS WERE POSSIBLE.
ET:
When
we look inward, we have our teacher
there.
RH:
Most
people, when they look inward, do
not find the spot.
THAT
IS
TRUE, R.H., BUT IF YOU ARE IN
CONTACT WITH A TEACHER, THIS CAN BE
DIRECTED.
RH:
Things
I cannot deal with are subconscious,
say a guilt feeling. I
have no idea where its source is.
The thing that triggers the guilt
feeling does not seem bad.
Ordinarily morality is bullshit. In
all
cases, the guilt emotions are from
lower Centers, as the higher
Centers are not operating.
ANGER
IS
ANOTHER REACTION THAT IS
SELF-PROGRAMMED BY PERSONALITY AS A
BARRIER.
ET:
The
body throws up a shield to keep
essence from coming through.
First we have to start by seeing our
Chief Feature.
We
discussed
phobias such as fears of staircases,
cats, heights, and
wondered if they could be carry
overs from past lives. Someone added
that we should not resist evil, that
we should face the fear and
experience it out. The little evils
are barriers to experiencing
life.
Someone
asked
about leaving a marriage.
THAT
DEPENDS
ON THE INITIAL CONTRACT AND THE
METHOD BY WHICH IT IS BROKEN.
REMEMBER THAT WE GAVE ABANDONMENT AS
A SOURCE OF KARMA . MOST
COMPUTER PROGRAMMERS STUDY HARD TO
LEARN THEIR TRADE. IT TAKES YOU
TAKES YOU MANY YEARS TO PROGRAM THE
BIOCOMPUTER THOROUGHLY.
ET:
What
function does Chief Feature have and
what role does it play?
WE
WOULD
SAY AN ENORMOUS PART. OFTEN IT ALONE
PREVENTS THE SOUL FROM
OPERATING OUT OF THE ROLE IN
ESSENCE.
ET:
How
does it come to be in our lives? Do
we choose it?
IT
IS
CHOSEN, YES, AS IS EVERYTHING.
ET:
It
was said my Chief Feature was
vanity. Is this so?
VANITY
IS
A PART OF ARROGANCE; WE AGREE WITH
THAT. SELF-PITY IS A PART OF
SELF-DEPRECATION.
RH:
Is
that my Chief Feature, as was said
by RB?
WE
SEE
IN YOU A GREAT DEAL OF IMPATIENCE.
RH:
Is
that typical of those in Growth?
YES.
PJ:
What
is my Chief Feature? (Martyrdom was
suggested by group members.)
WE
AGREE
WITH THAT.
Is
there
a “sub” [secondary] feature?
SELF-EFFACEMENT.
(Part
of martyrdom.)
What
is
CH’s chief feature?
SELF-DEPRECATION.
Is
her
subfeature self-effacement — taking
a back seat, lacking in
self confidence.
C.H.
HAS
A TENDENCY TO FADE AWAY IN CROWDS;
ALSO HAS MANY NEGATIVE
REACTIONS TO RATHER AMBIVALENT
STATEMENTS ABOUT YOUNG SOULS. WHAT
DOES THIS SUGGEST?
Nonexistence
(self-effacement).
THERE
ARE
MANY REMNANTS IN C.H., BUT SHE IS
CLOSE TO EXTINGUISHMENT [of the
Chief Feature]. THAT IS VALID.
AH:
Are
all Overleaves in Essence?
NO:
[they
are all] IN PERSONALITY.
AH:
Are
they chosen on the basis of karma?
FIRST
OF
ALL, THE LOCALE, THE SOCIOECONOMIC
STATUS, THE PARENTS YOU CHOSE —
ALL ARE FORMATIVE IN PROGRAMMING THE
BIOCOMPUTER. THESE OVERLEAVES
ARE CHOSEN BY THE SOUL TO BE ACTED
OUT IN LIFE, INDEPENDENT MOST OF
THE TIME OF THE WISHES OF THE
ESSENCE. THE SOUL CHOSE THEM TO
COMPLETE THE SPECIFIC TASK. THE SOUL
DESIRES SIMPLICITY AND FREEDOM,
MAKING A SPLIT BETWEEN SOUL AND
ESSENCE.
We
don’t
take the personality with us when we
die. Do we leave it
here?
THAT
IS
CORRECT. THE SOUL ON THE ASTRAL
PLANE IS DEVOID OF FALSE
PERSONALITY.
RH:
Why
do we choose such things as [the
Goal of] Rejection, [the Chief
Feature of] Self-destruction, and so
forth and so on?
THE
SOUL,
SANS BODY, TENDS TO FORGET THE
INTENSITY OF THE EXPERIENCE AND
THE PAIN. THIS IS YOUR OBJECTIVE:
DETACHED REVIEW, R.H. WE WOULD
SUGGEST TO YOU ALL THAT YOU BEGIN TO
THINK OF GOALS IN TERMS OF
LANDINGS ON THE INFINITE STAIRCASE,
AND THAT YOU FIXATE, IF YOU MUST,
ON AN INTERMEDIATE GOAL RATHER THAN
THE “ULTIMATE GOAL”. WE
[Michael] ARE NOT [even] IN SIGHT OF
THAT ONE YET.
RH:
Georges
Gurdjieff said that the only way to
consciousness was through
the Moving Center. When Peter
Ouspensky was nearing his death he
had
premonitions of it, and revisited
old places, and he advised everyone
to abandon the system and start a
new system based on what you want.
Are there any comments?
THE
MAN
GEORGES WAS ACCURATE IN ASSESSING
THE NEEDS OF MOST STUDENTS.
YES, THIS [Moving Centered approach]
CAN BE A WAY TOWARD BALANCE. THE
MAN PETER GLIMPSED THE TRUTH IN THE
NEED FOR A LIVING TEACHER WHO CAN
RENDER THE TEACHING DYNAMIC. HE SAW
CHANGE IN THE ATTITUDES AND THE
“WANTS” OF HIS STUDENTS. THIS WAS AN
INTELLECTUALLY CENTERED
TEACHER WITH MOSTLY EMOTIONALLY
CENTERED STUDENTS. THE MAN GEORGES
WAS MOVING CENTERED IN THE
BEGINNING, AND HAD MOSTLY
INTELLECTUALLY
CENTERED DISCIPLES. THIS HELPED HIM
TO VERIFY THE NEED FOR BALANCE.
HE AND PETER BOTH HAD A TENDENCY TO
DEPRECATE EMOTIONAL CENTER, AND
THE MAN PETER WENT EVEN FURTHER AND
REFUSED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE VERY
REAL NEED TO GROW TO THE POINT WHERE
SEXUALITY CAN BE EXPRESSED
THROUGH THE SEXUAL CENTER. THIS WAS
DUE, FOR THE MOST PART, TO GUILTY
INHIBITIONS. THE MAN GEORGES DID NOT
HAVE THIS HANDICAP, BUT DID NOT
GIVE EMOTIONAL CENTER QUITE THE
STATUS IT DESERVED. BALANCE IS JUST
THAT — A BALANCE OF ALL CENTERS.
BUT, YES, MOST OF YOU ARE
SUFFERING FROM PHYSICAL INERTIA.
RH:
Can
people be trapped in sub groups of
Centers, as symbolized in the
deck of cards, illustrated by HW?
THIS
IS
VALID. A.H. IS TRAPPED IN THE
EMOTIONAL PART OF INTELLECTUAL
CENTER. C.H. WAS IN TOUCH WITH THE
MOVING PART OF EMOTIONAL CENTER;
IS NOW MOVING TOWARD BALANCE; NEEDS
TO CONTACT THE EMOTIONAL PART OF
EMOTIONAL CENTER, THE EMOTIONAL AND
INTELLECTUAL PARTS OF
INTELLECTUAL CENTER, ALSO THE MOVING
PART OF MOVING CENTER. THE
TENNIS HELPS IN THIS; ALSO THE
READING. WE HAVE OTHER BOOKS FOR
C.H.
WHEN SHE FINISHES THE ONE SHE HAS
NOW.
NA:
Is
my Chief Feature Self-deprecation?
THAT
IS
VALID. THE ERHARD SENSITIVITY
(SEMINAR) TRAINING HELPED
ENORMOUSLY.
JH:
Are
false humility and false modesty
features of Arrogance?
THAT
IS
VALID; PRIDE ALSO.
Is
it
combined with self effacement in JH?
WE
DO
NOT SEE THIS. J.H. IS QUITE
SELF-CONFIDENT, BUT HER ACCEPTANCE
GOAL DEMANDS THAT SHE MASKS THIS.
AH:
I
would like to know if my
Self-deprecation is part of my Chief
Feature? Have I made any changes?
WE
STILL
SEE A.H. ACTING OUT IN
SELF-DEPRECATION.
AH:
Is
there a “sub [secondary Chief]
Feature” in me?
NONE
MARKED.
JH:
Is
mine Impatience?
WE
ALREADY
INFORMED YOU THIS.
RH:
Is
[my daughter] KH’s [Chief Feature]
Arrogance (false modesty)?
YES.
RH:
Is
KH a Realist?
YES.
RC:
Where
am I trapped?
YOU
ARE
TRAPPED IN THE EMOTIONAL PART OF
MOVING CENTER. BOTH J.H. AND
S.C. ARE TRAPPED IN THE INTELLECTUAL
PART OF MOVING CENTER.
RH:
Is
PJ in the Intellectual part of
Intellectual Center?
MOVING
PART
OF INTELLECTUAL CENTER.
JH:
Where
am I trapped?
EMOTIONAL
PART
OF INTELLECTUAL CENTER. N. IS WITH
P.J.: EMOTIONAL PART OF
INTELLECTUAL [Center].
RH.:
Where
am I trapped?
EMOTIONAL
PART
OF INTELLECTUAL CENTER.
RH:
Is
DC in the Emotional part of
Intellectual Center?
R.H.
IS
CORRECT.
What
good
is knowing this information?
IT
SHOULD
GIVE YOU SOME IDEA OF WHERE THE WORK
IS. E.T. IS NOW IN
CONTACT WITH THE MOVING CENTER AND
EMOTIONAL PARTS OF INTELLECTUAL
CENTER, THE MOVING AND INTELLECTUAL
PARTS OF EMOTIONAL CENTER, AND
THE INTELLECTUAL PART OF MOVING
CENTER.
NA:
Would
EST help a mid cycle Young Sage in
Growth?
IT
CANNOT
HARM HER. THE DANGER IN THIS CYCLE
IS ALWAYS THE ONE OF
MISGUIDED ENTHUSIASM AND AGGRESSIVE
PROSELYTIZING.
JH:
It
was said that astrology would be
valid if we knew the time of our
conception. Why?
BECAUSE
OF
THE CONJUNCTION OF THE HEAVENLY
BODIES; AND ALSO THE SUNSPOT
ACTIVITY AT THE TIME OF BIRTH. (At
JH’s conception) THE
CONSTELLATION LEO WAS ASCENDING; THE
MOON WAS IN PISCES.
PJ:
I
have noticed that some people are
the same no matter who they are
with, and others change to meet
different situations. Could Michael
comment?
YES,
WE
WILL COMMENT. THE CLOSER THE SOUL
COMES TO ESSENCE IN LIFE, THE
LESS HE WILL CHANGE TO MEET THE
SITUATION. THE FALSE PERSONALITY IS
LIKE A CHAMELEON. THE GOAL WILL, TO
A GREAT EXTENT, DETERMINE THE
FACE YOU PRESENT IN UNPLEASANT
SITUATIONS. GLOOMINESS IS ONE OF
THESE
FACES.
PJ:
Should
you then change to please others?
WE
DID
NOT SAY THIS, BUT WHY SHOULD YOU
CHANGE TO PLEASE OTHERS?
Comment:
That
is what Gurdjieff called “inner
considering” — when you
are wondering what the other person
is thinking of you for saying
what you did, or whatever.
NA:
Is
my son, M, in Dominance and a Young
soul?
THIS
IS
A FIFTH LEVEL YOUNG WARRIOR, NOT IN
REJECTION: IN GROWTH. THIS
CHILD IS STILL BEING BOMBARDED BY
THE ADOLESCENT HORMONAL STORM. THIS
MAKES IT DIFFICULT FOR YOU TO READ
HIM. HE IS TRAPPED IN THE
INTELLECTUAL PART OF MOVING CENTER.
NA:
What
is the SRGA of my twelve year old
son, JA.
THE
CHILD
IS A SIXTH LEVEL YOUNG SAGE IN
ACCEPTANCE.
NA:
What
is the SRGA of my fifteen year old
son, CA?
THIS
CHILD
IS A FIFTH LEVEL MATURE SCHOLAR IN
SUBMISSION, MOSTLY SATURN,
SOME LUNAR.
AH:
What
level and role is SE?
THIS
IS
A YOUNG SAGE IN DOMINANCE, AND
IDEALIST.
AH:
What
is R?
THIS
IS
A FIFTH LEVEL YOUNG WARRIOR IN
GROWTH.
AH:
Is
L a young priest?
THIS
IS
A THIRD LEVEL YOUNG PRIEST IN
DOMINANCE.
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