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February
24, 1974
CC:
I would like to ask about a
neighbor.
THIS
LADY
IS A DEEPLY TROUBLED MID CYCLE
MATURE ARTISAN IN REJECTION; BUT
WHAT DO YOU HOPE TO ACHIEVE WITH
HER?
CC:
The
neighbors feel threatened and it is
frightening to see a person
crumble in front of you. It sounds
heartless to say that she will
have to work it out herself. Is she
with the proper therapist for
her?
NO,
SHE
IS NOT.
CC:
Would
it help to know her Center?
SHE
IS
AN EMOTIONALLY CENTERED MARS-JOVIAL.
CC:
Is
she psychotic?
MILDLY,
YES;
MOSTLY NEUROTIC; MUCH AMBIVALENCE
CONCERNING HER MOTHERHOOD
ROLE. MOST SOULS IN REJECTION DENY
ALL INTERNAL CAUSATION AND ONLY
FIXATE ON THE EXTERNAL EVILS.
ET:
They
say, “The devil made me do it. I
didn’t!” I know a lady
who has been “sanctified by
receiving the holy spirit”. Her son
is selling dope, and her husband is
a policeman. She thinks the devil
is walking this earth and is making
her do things.
THIS
LADY
IS A SECOND LEVEL BABY SLAVE IN
REJECTION.
ET:
I
have been reading From Prison to
Praise by Carothers. He is
a part of the Charismatic Movement
now. Before that, he was a
son-of-a-gun. He is “healing” people
now and says that God is
telling him what to say. I was
wondering if he has a
“Michael[like]”
source for his healings.
MOST
OF
THE TIME THOSE SOULS WHO WRITE AND
LIVE THIS FASHION DO HAVE
CONTACT, AT LEAST WITH ASTRAL
TEACHERS. SINCE THIS IS A
LITTLE-UNDERSTOOD PHENOMENON, THEY
CALL IT A “GOD”, OR “JESUS”.
YES, THERE IS SIMPLY NO KNOWLEDGE
WITHIN TO ALLOW THEM TO ACCEPT
ANOTHER SOURCE. THE VOCABULARY IS
NOT THERE. MANY MATURE SOULS SUCH
AS THIS MAN ARE WIDE OPEN TO
TRANSMITTING. THEY ARE BROAD-BAND
RECEIVERS, AND THEY CANNOT THEN
ASSIMILATE AND RATIONALLY SEPARATE
THE WHEAT FROM THE CHAFF. THIS MAN
IS A POWERHOUSE OF PSYCHIC ENERGY
WHICH HE BEAMS ABOUT
INDISCRIMINATELY. WHAT A HEALER HE
COULD BE IF
THIS WERE CHANNELED IN SOME USABLE
FORM.
ET:
Kosmotokos,
the author of The Last
Temptations of Christ was
also a broad-beam receiver.
NC:
I
would like to ask of each one their
current feelings and how they
relate to what extent of getting
involved in the Oregon property.
SC:
I
don’t care for planning long
distance. There are enough dragons
to slay to keep one from getting up
there.
RC:
I
do not think the time schedule CK
has laid out is realistic.
SC:
I
am interested in an extended family,
and if it means buying our own
property, fine.
ET:
I
do not feel like making a commitment
now. Perhaps in another year.
RH:
I
Just received depressing news from
our financial advisor. Our
investments are worth nothing. I
cannot see myself earning a living
by commuting to Eugene without a
car.
NC:
I
would like to see more people at the
planning sessions to make
decisions. One cannot just go to the
Town when he is ready. He must
become involved before and know the
people he will be living with,
and have no expectations.
CC:
I
would like to ask where do you want
the group to go in the Town?
Not
a
monastery; not a sanctuary; not an
escape — to be in essence.
SC:
I
feel a lack of enthusiasm.
ET:
It
is important that we say what we
feel as individuals, not what we
think the group ought to feel. For
me, the group is great and I will
do it as along as it’s good growth
for me. Other agendas do not
have to mesh.
SC:
I
want to be part of an environment
that is growing spiritually.
NC:
Your
involvement now is by running the
Ouija board for others. I see
your big interest as your book, and
your need for resources would be
met better in Berkeley.
ET:
With
a split, you may see an adept
blossoming. Who knows? (Only the
Shadow?) SC, you do not need the
Ouija board to communicate (with me
or anyone else.)
JH:
I
am anxious to go there, and may be
able to have property near there
as a base. I want to help build the
rental units.
SC:
I
am seeking a way of life within the
group, not to become more
effective in the milieu.
THERE
IS
A WAY, YOU KNOW, THAT THIS TEACHING
CAN SERVE THE NEEDS OF ALL WHO
SEEK, AND YOU HAVE IT WITHIN THE
ORIGINAL NUCLEUS TO PERFORM THIS
SERVICE. THOSE WHO HAVE THE NEED FOR
INTENSIFIED PERSONAL SEARCHES
CAN ARRANGE FOR THIS. THOSE WHO ARE
NOT CERTAIN OF THEIR LEVEL OF
COMMITMENT MAY FIND THAT THE GENERAL
SESSION IS ADEQUATE FOR THEM.
THE SMALLER SESSIONS ARE MOST
VALUABLE FOR THE MORE COMMITTED
STUDENTS, AND DEFINITELY SHOULD BE
RESERVED FOR THAT PURPOSE. THERE
IS SOME MERRIMENT DERIVED IN THE
GENERAL SESSION MERELY BY PURSUING
SOME OF THE LESS DEDICATED STUDENTS’
PERSONAL AGENDAS, AND THIS
WILL BENEFIT ALL. WE STILL SEE THE
TENDENCY IN ALL OF YOU TO EXPECT
OF THE OTHERS AND TO BE DISAPPOINTED
WHEN THE ANTICIPATED REACTION
DOES NOT COME ABOUT. THIS CANNOT BE
AVOIDED UNLESS MUCH INTENSIVE
WORK IS DONE. WE COULD DO THIS WITH
YOU, AND WE ARE ALWAYS AVAILABLE
FOR THIS. THERE IS A NEED FOR SOME
DIVERSIFICATION HERE NOW WITH ALL
OF THE PARTS CONTRIBUTING TOWARD A
GREATER WHOLE IN THE END.
WE
HAVE
NOT SUGGESTED THAT THE NUCLEUS OF
THIS TEACHING EXPAND TO THE
POINT WHERE NEEDS ARE NO LONGER
BEING SERVED. WE ARE CONCERNED ONLY
THAT YOU SHARE THE KNOWLEDGE ONCE IT
HAS BEEN ASSIMILATED AND
VERIFIED.
WE
HAVE
A METHOD BY WHICH ALL OF YOU CAN
CHOOSE TO ACHIEVE A MODICUM OF
GROWTH ON A SPIRITUAL PLANE. MANY OF
YOU CAN EVEN USE IT AS A
SPRINGBOARD TOWARD BECOMING AN
ADEPT. THIS IS ENTIRELY UP TO YOU.
WE
WILL FIND MANY VEHICLES THROUGH
WHICH WE CAN TEACH THE LOGOS — THIS
DOES NOT PRESENT US WITH A PROBLEM.
WE ANSWER ALL CALLS FOR THIS
TEACHING.
What
is
the method?
WE
HAVE
BEEN TRANSMITTING THIS TO YOU, BUT
MANY HAVE NOT HEARD. THIS
TEACHING HAS IMPLICIT WITHIN IT THE
METHOD OF WHICH WE SPEAK.
NC:
The
method is to live the teaching in an
attitude of love.
INDIVIDUAL
VERIFICATION
OF THE GIVEN MATERIAL IS PERHAPS THE
MOST VITAL PRECEPT
UPON WHICH THIS TEACHING IS BASED,
FOR THIS PROCESS ALONE OPENS THE
DOOR TO EXPANDED PERCEPTION, WHICH
IS, OF COURSE, NECESSARY IN ORDER
TO EXPERIENCE AGAPE, AND THUS GROW
SPIRITUALLY.
RH:
I
saw the movie, Here Comes
Everybody, an Esalen film by
Will
Schutz and Betty Fuller. I had the
perception that they were Slaves:
Betty perhaps an Old soul, and Will
a Mature one.
THE
PERCEPTIONS
ARE ESSENTIALLY VALID: BOTH ARE
SLAVES. BOTH ARE
SPIRITUALISTS. THE LADY IS IN
GROWTH, THE MAN IN ACCEPTANCE. THE
LADY
IS A SEVENTH LEVEL MATURE SOUL, THE
MAN IS SIXTH.
RH:
I
would like to know if unblocking the
emotions as is seen in the
Esalen film is a healthy thing. It
looks good.
WE
DO
NOT SEE THE NECESSITY FOR THIS
ACTION WITHIN THE GROUP, BUT
PERHAPS AN OUTLET NEEDS TO BE
PROVIDED ELSEWHERE. IN THIS WE WILL
NOT
MEDIATE, AS THIS IS WITHIN THE REALM
OF LIFE CRISES, AND DOES NOT
PERTAIN TO SPIRITUAL GROWTH. THIS IS
NOT TO SAY THAT THESE MATTERS DO
NOT HAVE TO BE DEALT WITH — THEY
MOST CERTAINLY DO. LONG BEFORE YOU
CAN EVEN TALK ABOUT GROWTH —
SPIRITUAL GROWTH FOR THE DEDICATED
STUDENT AND FOR THE ADEPT — REQUIRES
DETACHMENT FROM THE MUNDANE
AND TRIVIAL MATTERS WHICH ARE SUCH
IMMODERATE ENERGY DRAINS. HOW CAN
YOU POSSIBLY GROW IF YOU ARE
IMMERSED IN ALL THIS MAYA?
RH:
The
Town meeting for planning sounds
like super Maya to me. It is
making Maya what it ought to be.
CC:
It
is a planning process and one of
growth involving the people.
ET:
The
meetings are where it is just talk,
and I want “To be”.
CC:
The
Town Planning requires a constant
dialogue. You have to earn a
place in the Town. One without a
sense of community cannot just walk
into it: so there’s a need for
planning.
MANY
OF
THOSE WHO ARE IN THE FOUNDING GROUP
FOR THIS LAND VENTURE ARE IN
SEARCH OF THE GOLDEN FLEECE. THIS
DOES NOT HANG IN OREGON MORE THAN
IN TROY. OF COURSE, THEY WILL CARRY
THEIR MIXED BAG OF PROBLEMS WITH
THEM. THE ADVANTAGE IN A CLOSED
COMMUNITY OF THAT SORT IS THE
OPPORTUNITY TO LIVE THE TEACHING IN
A SUPPORTIVE ATMOSPHERE, AND BY
EXAMPLE SPILL OVER ON TO THOSE
AROUND YOU. THIS IS NOT TO SAY THAT
YOU WILL BE HEARD BY ANY OF THEM.
PROBABLY NOT MANY OF THEM WILL
RESPOND, BUT THOSE WHO DO WILL
CONTRIBUTE, AND WILL IN TURN AID IN
YOUR OWN PERSONAL GROWTH PROCESS BY
PROVIDING THE PHOTOGRAPHS. WE SEE
ONLY ONE ADVANTAGE IN THIS PROPOSED
COMMUNITY, AND THAT IS THE
ENVIRONMENTAL ONE. WE SUGGESTED IT
AS A MEANS TO AN END, WHERE YOU
COULD, THROUGH GROUP EFFORT, FREE
HOURS OF TIME FOR INDIVIDUAL
GROWTH. PERHAPS YOU NEED NOT INVOLVE
YOURSELVES AT ALL WITH THOSE WHO
ARE IN THE AWARENESS MOVEMENT. WE
WOULD POINT OUT TO YOU THAT THIS IS
A VALID STARTING POINT FOR THOSE
WITH AMBIGUOUS FEELINGS AND THE NEED
FOR AN ELUSIVE “SOMETHING BETTER”.
MANY ACCIDENTALLY FIND THIS
“SOMETHING BETTER” BY GOING THROUGH
THE AWARENESS PROCESSES, AND
OTHERS GO ON TO A SPIRITUAL GROWTH
PROCESS SUCH AS THE ONE WE WOULD
SEE YOU INVOLVE YOURSELVES [in].
MANY OF YOU CAME TO THIS BECAUSE OF
THE FRICTION IN YOUR LIVES, SEEKING
A METHOD OF HANDLING THIS AND
STILL STAYING ABOVE GROUND
EMOTIONALLY, AND TOWARD THIS END
SOME OF
YOU HAVE MADE MUCH PROGRESS. THE
MAN, E.T., CONTINUES TO STRUGGLE
WITH THIS, AND IS NOW ABLE TO SEE
HIS PROGRESS BEGINNING TO SPEED UP.
THE MAN, J.H., WISHES TO DO THIS
ALSO, BUT SEES THE NECESSITY TO
CHANGE THE ENVIRONMENT. SIMILAR
INSIGHTS HAVE COME TO OTHERS, BUT
THEY HAVE CHOSEN TO DISCOUNT THESE
AS IRRATIONAL, MAINLY BECAUSE THE
CHANGES WOULD BE IMMEDIATELY
PAINFUL, AND IMMEDIATE PAIN IS MORE
SCARY THAN PROJECTED PLEASURES ARE
WORTH.
JH
asked
a question about jobs in essence for
her.
WORKING
WITH
YOUNG PEOPLE IN AN UNSTRUCTURED
ENVIRONMENT WOULD BE MUCH MORE
IN ESSENCE THAN THE STRUCTURED
ENVIRONMENT OF THE CONVENTIONAL
CLASSROOM.
CC:
Is
false personality something the soul
chooses for growth?
YES,
OF
COURSE, THAT IS VALID. WHY ELSE VARY
THE LOCALE AND CHOOSE THE
FAMILIES THAT YOU DO?
BM:
Do
I have the right idea of equating
false personality with Jung’s
”persona”?
RH:
False
personality is all that culturally
induced trash.
Someone
helpful:
It serves a useful purpose and also
buffers the essence.
FALSE
PERSONALITY
IS ONLY A PART OF THIS. THE TOTAL
FALSE PERSONALITY
INCLUDES, OF COURSE, ALL OF THE
“SHOULDS” THAT YOU LEARNED IN
CHILDHOOD, THE VARIOUS MACHINATIONS
YOU GO THROUGH AS A RESULT OF
YOUR GOALS, AND THOSE REACTIONS THAT
ARE SOLELY THE RESULT OF THE
TAPE LOOPS PROVIDED BY THE ATTITUDE.
MJ:
More
on “machinations”, please.
GROWTH
IS
A ROCKY GOAL, AND CAUSES THE SOUL TO
GO THROUGH SOME ELABORATE AND
COMPLICATED MACHINATIONS WHICH MASK
ALL OF THE OTHER GOALS. MANY
TIMES THE SOUL IN GROWTH IS FORCED
TO PLAY OUT ALL OF THE AGONIES OF
THE OTHER GOALS IN ORDER TO GROW,
SUCH AS THE REJECTION-DOMINANCE
SEEN OFTEN IN MANY MEMBERS OF THIS
GROUP WHO ARE IN GROWTH.
DEPRESSION AND ELATION USUALLY
MANIFESTS OFTEN IN THIS GOAL. THERE
IS
SOMETIMES THE NEED TO SUBMIT, I.E.,
TO PUT ONESELF IN THE HANDS OF
THE GURU. THERE ARE ALSO MANY TIMES
THE NEED TO FEEL ACCEPTED, TO
HAVE THE GOAL VERIFIED BY SOCIETY,
TO CHECK OUT WITH LIFE THE SANITY
OF THE SOUL’S PURPOSE. THIS OFTEN
MAKES THE SOUL WHO IS STILL IN
FALSE PERSONALITY GO THROUGH A SET
OF WELL DEFINED PATTERNS. YOU CAN
NOW BEGIN TO PHOTOGRAPH THESE
PATTERNS IN ONE ANOTHER. THERE IS
THE
DEFINITE GAME-PLAYING ASPECT TO THIS
THAT, ON A LOWER LEVEL, IS
WORKED OUT IN AWARENESS GROUPS.
SOMETIMES IT IS EASIER TO OBSERVE
THE
VARIOUS MACHINATIONS BY OBSERVING
AWARENESS GROUPS AT WORK. PERHAPS
THIS FILM (Here Comes
Everybody) WOULD BE VALUABLE
FOR
ALL OF YOU TO SEE.
RH:
Does
erotic love ever play a part in the
soul’s growth?
EROTIC
LOVE
IS A RATIONALIZATION OF FALSE
PERSONALITY, ALL OWING FOR
PERPETUATION OF THE SPECIES. JUST
LOOK AROUND YOU, R.H., AND SEE HOW
COMPLICATED THIS MOST NATURAL
INSTINCTIVE FUNCTION HAS BECOME. THE
ONLY REASON THAT YOUR CULTURE HAS
NOT BUILT UP A SIMILAR RITUAL,
COMPLETE WITH RULES, AROUND
DEFECATION, IS THAT YOU DO IT ALL
ALONE.
AS SOON AS YOU COME TOGETHER WITH
ANOTHER PERSONALITY, YOU BEGIN TO
RATIONALIZE ALL FUNCTIONS AND
BEHAVIORS.
In
pair
bonds is there more apt to be erotic
love?
WE
SPEAK
OF PAIR BONDS IN ESSENCE, AND THIS
LEADS TO A FEELING OF AGAPE.
USUALLY, HOWEVER, THESE VERY
FORTUNATE SOULS ARE SEXUALLY
COMPATIBLE
SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY ARE SO OPEN, AND
THEY PLACE SO LITTLE EMPHASIS ON
METHOD, AND MORE EMPHASIS ON THE
QUALITY OF THE RELATIONSHIP.
Is
sex
so important in pair bonds?
SEXUALITY
IS
USUALLY NOT A PROBLEM IN PAIR BONDS,
SINCE ALL OTHER FACTORS ARE
COMPATIBLE. WE FEEL THE SENSUALITY
CAN OFTEN BE A DOOR TO EXTRA
PERCEPTIVE EXPERIENCES. SENSUALITY
CAN BE ENJOYED OUTSIDE OF THE
MATING URGE.
How
about
the other side, as in India with so
much spirituality?
IT
IS
MORE APPARENT THAN REAL. THIS METHOD
THAT IS TOTAL AUSTERITY
SELDOM QUALIFIES THE SENSES ENOUGH
TO COMPLETE ANY OF THE MONADS, AND
THE SOUL MUST REINCARNATE AGAIN IN
ORDER TO EXPERIENCE WHAT IT MISSED
WHILE IT WAS SITTING IN ITS HAIR
CLOTH.
NC:
Is
there any relation between super
Maya, Goals and Roles?
OF
COURSE,
SOULS IN THE VARIOUS GOALS WILL
CREATE SPECIFIC SETS OF
OBSTACLES AND BARRIERS — IN OTHER
WORDS, MAYA — AND THE OLDER THE
SOUL, THE MORE EXALTED THE MAYA
BECOMES, AND FINALLY, IT EVEN COMES
AROUND TO MASQUERADING AS SPIRITUAL
GROWTH, THE MOST SUPER REFINED
MAYA OF ALL. WHEN YOU HAVE LEARNED
TO DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN THIS AND
THE GENUINE ARTICLE, YOU WILL HAVE
ARRIVED AT THE POINT WHERE YOU CAN
NO LONGER SLIP BACK INTO OLD, SAFE
PATTERNS, AND THEREFORE MUST GO
FORWARD. THE AWARENESS GROUPS ARE,
OF COURSE, SUPER MAYA GROUPS OF
MATURE SOULS, THE POLITICAL ACTION
GROUPS OF THE YOUNG, AND SPLINTER
RELIGIOUS QUACKERY GROUPS OF THE
BABIES. IT ALL COMES BACK TO THE
LACK OF INNER PURPOSE AND THE
KNOWLEDGE OF THE TRAPPED ESSENCE.
MANY
YOUNG AND MATURE SOULS ACTIVELY
PRACTICE WITCHCRAFT AND BLACK MAGIC
IN ANSWER TO THE INCREASED
PERCEPTIONS THAT THEY ENCOUNTER IN
THEMSELVES BUT ARE UNWILLING TO
INVESTIGATE AT A DEEPER LEVEL. MANY
OLD SOULS DABBLE IN ORIENTALIA FOR
THE SAME REASON.
MJ:
I
would like to ask about a person I
feel is an Old soul with much
bad karma, an Artisan or a Sage, and
I wonder about all the bad
things that have been happening to
her.
THIS
LADY
IS A MID CYCLE MATURE SAGE IN
RETARDATION, A SKEPTIC. SHE SOUNDS
GOOD. THIS IS USUALLY THE WAY WITH
SAGES.
There
was
a discussion about hyperactive
children, and something was said
about using Ritalin for Mature souls
in Retardation and what happens
in adolescence when the Ritalin is
no longer used.
THEY
GENERALLY
GO ON TO OTHER FORMS OF
NEUROPSYCHOSIS AT THIS TIME.
How
about
adults in the Retardation Goal? And
those who are psychotic?
DIPHENYLHYDANTOIN
COULD
BE USED, ALSO.
The
drug
would mask the Retardation then
would it not?
IT
DOES
MODIFY, BUT NOT PERMANENTLY, BUT THE
HOLIDAY CREATED BY THE DRUG
ALLOWS YOU TO SUGGEST THIS
ALTERATION OF THE SOUL.
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