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December 27,
1973
27 December
1973
Walnut Creek
Is the next Overleaf "Attitudes"?
ESSENTIALLY, BUT WE WOULD PREFER NOT TO PLUNGE
INTO THAT AT THIS TIME. WE
FEEL THAT TIME IS NECESSARY FOR ASSIMILATION.
NL: Is the automatic writing I got the same as
what Michael is giving here?
MOST AUTOMATIC WRITING EMANATES FROM WITHIN THE
INDIVIDUAL. THE PROCESS
RELAXES THE PERSONALITY IN SUCH A WAY THAT THE
KNOWLEDGE CAN FLOW MORE
FREELY. IN ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION, WE CAN ONLY
SAY THAT SOMETIMES IT WOULD
BE EQUALLY VALID. TIME WOULD TELL HOW MUCH AND
HOW OFTEN.
NL: Where does the information come from in
changing from one level to
another? Is it from a different rate of
vibration?
WE UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE REFERRING TO. [The
answer is:] NOT EXACTLY. THE
LESSONS LEARNED DO BRING ABOUT A CERTAIN
REFINEMENT. HOWEVER, THE LEVEL
REFERS PRIMARILY TO AGING AND EXPERIENTIAL DATA.
PJ: I would like to ask the SR & G of my
middle son.
THIS BOY IS A FIFTH LEVEL MATURE SOUL, A PRIEST.
HE HAS ACCEPTANCE AS HIS
GOAL.
PJ: Could we check the soul and Role of E?
Mature is good for M, but E seems
like the oldest soul I ever knew.
THIS CHILD IS QUITE SECURE WITHIN HIS PRESENT
FRAMEWORK. NOT ALL MATURE
SOULS ARE TROUBLED. SOME ARE QUITE CREATIVE
WITHIN A NURTURING ENVIRONMENT,
WITH AVOIDANCE OF STRESS AND HOSTILITY IN THE
FAMILY MEMBERS. THIS CHILD
PICKS UP QUITE WELL ON ALL NEGATIVE VIBRATIONS,
BUT DOES NOT ACT UPON THEM.
ET: We have assumed our understanding of the
Centers is the same as
Gurdjieff describes. Are they talking of the
same things, or is there some
modification?
THE INFORMATION [about Centers] PERPETUATED BY
GEORGES GURDJIEFF IS VALID.
THIS CONCEPT CAN BE EXTRAPOLATED QUITE NICELY
OUT TO WHOLE WORLDS, AS WELL
AS CITIES AND COUNTRIES.
ET: N commented on certain countries being
Intellectually Centered.
NL: I was told once that I was spiritually
centered. Is there such a Center?
WE THINK THAT THEY PROBABLY REFERRED TO THE FACT
THAT N.L.'S GOAL IS GROWTH.
SOME CAN PICK UP ON THIS PARTICULAR ASPECT OF AN
INDIVIDUAL'S ESSENCE
WITHOUT REALLY UNDERSTANDING THE IMPLICATIONS.
ET: I would like comments on energies used by
various energy Centers.
ALL OF THIS ENERGY IS PSYCHIC ENERGY. IMAGINE A
SUPERCONDUCTOR WITH MANY
TERMINALS, EACH REPRESENTING A DIFFERENT POWER
DRAIN. IF ONE OF THESE USERS
OR CONSUMERS IS UTILIZING MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF
POWER, THERE WILL BE A
CORRESPONDING LOSS IN THE OTHER AREAS,
OCCASIONALLY EVEN SHORT CIRCUITS AND
BLOWN FUSES. THE POWER THAT ENERGIZES THE PSYCHE
IS ALL THE SAME TYPE, OR
RATHER, THE SAME GRADE OF ELECTROMAGNETIC
RADIATION. THERE IS NO REFINEMENT
FROM ONE CENTER TO THE OTHER UNTIL THE POWERS OF
TRANSMUTATION BECOME YOURS
TO UTILIZE; THEN THIS ENERGY BECOMES CENTRALIZED
— CHANNELED, SO TO SPEAK.
WHEN WE SPEAK OF HARMONIOUS BALANCE, WE REFER TO
THAT STATE IN WHICH THIS
CONCENTRATION IS REACHED. AND THIS ALSO GOES FOR
THE RELEASE OF SPECIFIC
AMOUNTS OF ENERGY. EMOTIONALLY CENTERED MEDIUMS
HAVE AN EASY TIME WITH
MANIFESTATIONS, AND ALSO BECOME EXCELLENT
TRANSPORT MEDIUMS. THIS MEDIUM
(S.C.) IS NOT EMOTIONALLY CENTERED, AND IS NOT
IN TOUCH WITH THE RELEASE
MECHANISM THAT WOULD ENABLE, OR AT LEAST
ENHANCE, THE MANIFESTATION. ASTRAL
ENTITIES CAN MANIFEST WITHOUT ANY ASSISTANCE, WE
CANNOT. WE MUST BORROW THE
ENERGY FROM ONE OF YOU, AND WE CANNOT DO THIS
AGAINST YOUR WILL. WE WISH TO
REMIND YOU THAT THERE ARE TWO VERY SPECIFIC
TYPES OF REACTIONS: IMPLOSION
AND EXPLOSION; ALSO, TWO SPECIFIC CHARGES IN
POLARIZATION: NEGATIVE AND
POSITIVE. A GREAT DEAL OF THE ENERGY UTILIZED BY
THE LOWER CENTERS IN LIFE
SITUATIONS ARE IMPLOSION REACTIONS WITH NEGATIVE
CHARGES. CONTROLLED
REACTIONS OF THIS TYPE DO NOT EVER BECOME AS
SPECTACULAR AS THEIR ANTITHESES
[the higher centers].
NL: Is our energy self-generated? Are we born
with a certain amount of
energy and it regenerates?
THE BODY CAN BE THOUGHT OF AS THE VEHICLE, OR
THE CONDUCTOR. THE ESSENCE
BECOMES THE SOURCE OF ATTRACTION, AND AS
[spiritual] GROWTH OCCURS, CAN DRAW
UPON AN INFINITE POWER SOURCE. HOWEVER, THE
AVERAGE SOUL USES A VERY SMALL,
A VERY FINITE, AMOUNT OF THE ENERGY AVAILABLE
DURING A GIVEN PHYSICAL
INTERVAL. MOST OF YOU ARE SOMEWHAT SLUGGISH DUE
TO CULTURAL INDUCEMENTS, AND
RARELY DRAW UPON MUCH ENERGY.
ST: Is there a commonality of soul level, Role,
Goal, in different types of
handicapped people such as deaf, blind, mentally
retarded, emotionally
retarded, those with learning disabilities,
etc.? Are they definable as a
group?
SENSORY DEPRIVATIONS SUCH AS DEAFNESS AND
BLINDNESS OFTEN ARE KARMIC.
HOWEVER, THERE IS MUCH COMMONALITY WITHIN THE
EMOTIONAL DISORDERS. FOR
INSTANCE, MANIC DEPRESSIVES ARE ALWAYS MATURE,
EMOTIONALLY CENTERED SOULS.
SCHIZOPHRENICS ARE MID CYCLE MATURE SOULS WHO
HAVE EGO DISINTEGRATION
WITHOUT THE CORRESPONDING SPIRITUAL GROWTH.
HYPERACTIVE CHILDREN NORMALLY
ARE MOVING CENTERED MATURE SOULS WITH
RETARDATION GOALS. SPECIFIC LEARNING
DISORDERS, SUCH AS AGRAPHIA, ARE SOMETIMES
KARMIC, BUT THIS IS RARE. IT
NORMALLY POINTS TO A MID CYCLE MATURE SOUL WHO
HAS A RETARDATION GOAL. ON
THE OTHER HAND, GROSS MENTAL RETARDATION IS
ENHANCED BY BAD GENES, ALTHOUGH
THIS IS CHOSEN FOR GROWTH. THE DISINTEGRATION OF
THE PERSONALITY, HOWEVER
FALSE, IS NOT SOMETHING THAT THE INDIVIDUAL CAN
HANDLE WITHOUT THE
CORRESPONDING LIBERATION OF THE ESSENCE.
CHILDHOOD SCHIZOPHRENIA OR AUTISM
IS QUITE DIFFERENT, AND SHOULD NOT BE COMPARED
TO THE ADULT PSYCHOSIS. THESE
CHILDREN ARE INFANT SOULS WHO HAVE PERCEIVED THE
"NOT ME" AS HOSTILE AT AN
EXTREMELY EARLY STAGE, SOMETIMES SHORTLY AFTER
BIRTH, OR EVEN DURING ACTUAL
BIRTH, AND HAVE SUBSEQUENTLY WITHDRAWN. CHILDREN
WHO EXHIBIT UNWANTED
HOSTILITY, AND ARE SUBJECT TO LOUD OUTBURSTS AND
ANTISOCIAL BEHAVIOR ARE
NORMALLY INFANT SOULS OF EXALTED ROLES WITH
DOMINANT GOALS, WHO ALSO
PERCEIVE THE "NOT ME" AS HOSTILE. EMOTIONAL
DISORDERS OCCUR FOR THE MOST
PART DURING THE MATURE CYCLE, AND ARE RELATED TO
THE SOUL'S PERCEPTION OF
THOSE AROUND IT, HOWEVER ERRONEOUS THAT MIGHT
BE. THIS CAUSES AN ENORMOUS
BUILDUP IN GUILT, AND ALSO HOSTILITY. WE CAN
GIVE YOU AN EXCELLENT EXAMPLE
OF A RELATIVELY FRAIL, INTELLECTUALLY CENTERED,
YOUNG CHILD, A MID CYCLE
MATURE SCHOLAR, BORN INTO A FAMILY OF
ACHIEVEMENT-ORIENTED WARRIORS WITH
DOMINANT GOALS. THE CHILD REACTS TIME AND TIME
AGAIN WITH FAILURE.
EM: Can you discuss energy and the concept of
the pyramid?
WHAT WE JUST DISCUSSED IS THE PYRAMIDAL EFFECT,
OR THE CHANNELING OF THE
ENERGIES FROM THE WIDE DISPERSION AT THE BASE TO
THE NARROW FLOW AT THE TOP.
THE THEORY BEHIND THE PYRAMID IS OF COURSE
SYMBOLIC. HOWEVER, MANY CANNOT
WORK WITHOUT A CONCRETE PHYSICAL MODEL
REPRESENTING THE SYMBOLS. THIS IS NOT
BAD WORK, NECESSARILY, BUT YOU SHOULD LEARN TO
BE A BIT MORE ABSTRACT. THE
LITERALNESS OF YOUR CULTURE IS AN OBSTACLE TO
TRUE SPIRITUAL GROWTH. AT THE
TIME OF THE BUILDING OF THE GREAT PYRAMIDS IN
EGYPT, THE BROTHERHOOD WAS
ALMOST SOLELY CONCENTRATED THERE. THEY REPRESENT
THE OUTWARD SYMBOL OF THE
INNER STRENGTH.
MJ: I would like to ask what my soul, Role and
Goal is. (The group
speculated on her Bodytype being probably a
Mercury-Saturn, Old soul
Warrior. ES came up with a Scholarly Mature
Six.)
THIS LADY IS A SEVENTH LEVEL MATURE WARRIOR WITH
GROWTH AS A GOAL, WHICH
ACCOUNTS FOR THE "GUESSES" OF PRIEST. M.J. IS
MERCURIAL-LUNAR, MOVING
CENTERED.
RH: Could you elucidate on the Lunar part: It is
invisible to me.
THE COOLNESS IN DEMEANOR, LACK OF VOLATILE
RESPONSE IN THIS PARTICULAR
SITUATION; BUT THE QUICKNESS OF MOVEMENT AND ALL
OTHER QUALITIES POINT TO
MERCURIAL INFLUENCE. THE TYPICAL MERCURIAL TYPE
WOULD REACT TO ASTONISHMENT
IN A MORE VERBAL FASHION, AND THERE WOULD BE
MORE CHANGE OF FACIAL
EXPRESSION. EXAMINE THE LADY'S FACIAL EXPRESSION
DURING THE REMAINDER OF THE
EVENING. THIS IS THE ESSENTIAL DIFFERENCE. THERE
IS LESS MOBILITY THERE THAN
ONE WOULD EXPECT (from a Mercury).
EE: I would like to ask my soul, Role and Goal.
They said I was a Second
Level Old soul, Sage before.
THIS YOUNG MAN IS UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF JUPITER
AND MARS, MOSTLY MARS. HE
HAS SUBMISSION AS A GOAL.
SB: I wonder why Michael called him "young." (EE
told us he was 33.)
PJ: Have I changed my Goal from Submission to
Acceptance?
P.J. IS RIGHT ABOUT THE ACCEPTANCE. THE
MANIFESTATION HAS OCCURRED IN THIS
LADY AND SHE NOTICES CHANGES IN HER
RELATIONSHIPS; BUT, NO, SHE HAS NOT
ALTERED HER ORIGINAL GOAL.
We remember the board as having transmitted the
information that NL has
Artisan as her Role. Could we verify this, as NL
does not feel this to be
so. Also, could we have the goal of ES? He seems
Dominant.
WE DOUBT THAT WE EVER TRANSMITTED THE
INFORMATION THAT N.L. IS AN ARTISAN.
IF THIS IS WHAT APPEARED ON THE BOARD, IT
CERTAINLY WAS IN ERROR. N.L. IS A
WARRIOR. E.S. IS, OF COURSE, A DOMINANT SCHOLAR.
NL: I do not see that at all.
SB: I do not feel mine is right, either.
JUST THE FACT THAT BOTH N.L. AND S.B. WISH TO
ARGUE WITH US ABOUT THEIR
ROLES AND GOALS SHOULD LEND SOME ACCURACY TO THE
ASSIGNMENT.
BT: What is my Goal?
B.T.'S GOAL IS ACCEPTANCE. A DOMINANT KING IN
YOUR MIDST WOULD LEAVE NO
DOUBT IN YOUR MINDS WHERE THE POWER LAY. S.B.
HAS GROWTH AS HER GOAL.
AH: RL's Goal must be Dominance?
IT IS DOMINANCE.
BT: I do not see how one can have these Roles in
each lifetime. It does not
jive. What have been some of my past lives?
YOU HAVE BEEN A REGIMENTAL COMMANDER FIFTEEN
TIMES, BOTH IN THE CAVALRY AND
IN THE INFANTRY, FROM BABYLONIA TO THE PRESENT.
THIS SUBORDINATE ROLE YOU
HAD IN THIS LIFE WAS QUITE UNSATISFACTORY. YOU
WERE ALSO A PROVINCIAL
GOVERNOR IN AFRICA DURING THE SECOND CENTURY
BEFORE THE COMMON ERA. YOU WERE
ACTIVE IN THE PUNIC WAR. N.L. WAS ALSO PRESENT
AT THE SACKING OF CARTHAGE.
AS A GENERAL, YOU, B.T., USURPED THE THRONE IN
SIDON EARLIER IN THE HISTORY
OF THAT CITY-STATE.
ES: Is my soul's movement random or purposeful?
From the moment the soul
fragments into pieces then the evolutionary
process evolves into ultimate
unity and the process is repeated. I see it as
by chance and not happening
by purpose.
DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE THAT "CHANCE" BROUGHT THIS
GROUP TOGETHER IN WALNUT
CREEK, CALIFORNIA? WE CANNOT BELIEVE THAT AT
ALL. THE SEARCHING IS SOLELY
THROUGH ESSENCE, AND THE FALSE PERSONALITY
FIGHTS THIS AS LONG AS IT EXISTS,
WHICH MAY OR MAY NOT SURVIVE TO THE BITTER END.
ALL OF YOU WERE INVOLVED IN
A SPECIFIC SITUATION WHICH HAS NOW BROUGHT YOU
TOGETHER IN A PARALLEL TIME
FRAME, WHICH ALLOWS YOU TO COMPLETE THE MONAD.
FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO
INITIALLY CAME TOGETHER IN ROME AND SYRIA,
PALESTINE, THERE IS THE TEACHING
OF CHRIST, WHO YOU ALL KNEW OF THEN, FOR YOU TO
HEAR THIS TIME WITH
UNPLUGGED EARS. ONE AMONG YOU HEARD IT LOUD AND
CLEAR THEN, AND WILL BECOME
AN ADEPT IN THIS PHYSICAL INTERVAL. S.C. WROTE A
BOOK DURING THAT LIFETIME,
AND NOW SHE IS WRITING IT AGAIN. SOME CHANGES
ARE BEING MADE. OTHERS ARE
PLAYING OUT ALMOST IDENTICAL LIFE ROLES AS YOU
DID THEN. THIS WILL BECOME
MORE APPARENT AS WE PROGRESS.
SB: Are any of my Entity Fragments here now?
YES, YOU AND E.E. ARE PART OF THE SAME ORIGINAL
ENTITY.
SB: I thought so. I had a strong feeling that
this was so.
RH: Is part of NL's Entity here?
NOT YET, BUT SOON.
EM: If Scholars who are not Emotionally Centered
have trouble with their
emotions, how can we overcome that part in us?
FIRST YOU MUST WISH THIS. MOST SCHOLARS HAVE
LITTLE REGARD FOR EMOTIONAL
ENTANGLEMENTS, UNLESS THEY HAPPEN TO BE
EMOTIONALLY CENTERED. MOST SCHOLARS
WOULD PREFER NOT TO BE BOTHERED WITH THE
RESPONSIBILITY THAT GOES ALONG WITH
THESE INTRIGUES. THE WAY YOU CAN HANDLE IT IS TO
BECOME BALANCED, AND THUS
COME INTO CONTACT WITH THE EMOTIONAL CENTER AND
LEARN TO CONTROL THE OUTPUT.
RIGHT NOW THERE IS SPORADIC HIGH OUTPUT WITH
LITTLE INSIGHT — IT RESEMBLES
VOLCANIC ERUPTIONS.
EM: Sounds right.
CH: I would like to know my Center of gravity,
and also what I was doing in
the parallel time frame.
C.H. IS AT THE MOMENT THE MOST NEARLY BALANCED
OF ALL, BUT STILL PRIMARILY
EMOTIONALLY CENTERED. YOU WERE EMPLOYED IN THE
HOUSEHOLD OF THE GOVERNOR OF
THE SYRIAN LEGATE, SULPICIUS QUIRINIUS.
NL: Could I have a confirmation on my Centering
and Bodytype?
N.L. IS EMOTIONALLY CENTERED. S.B. IS MOVING
CENTERED. N.L. IS MOVING TOWARD
BALANCE AND IS IN CONTACT NOW WITH HER
INTELLECT; SUSAN WITH EMOTIONAL
CENTER. N.L. IS MOSTLY MERCURIAL; SOME VENUSIAN,
NOT MUCH.
RH: What were some of NL's previous lives?
WELL, TO START, N.L. HAS ACTUALLY BEEN IN COMBAT
THIRTY TIMES. THIS HAS BEEN
BOTH ON THE WINNING AND ON THE LOSING SIDE. SHE
WAS A VIKING COMMANDER, AND
THIS WAS A PRETTY NON-COMBATIVE LIFE FOR HER:
EXPLORATION WAS HER MOTIVE
THEN. SHE WAS WITH PIZARRO ON HIS EXPLORATIONS.
ALSO N.L. HAS BEEN A FEMALE
ONLY FIVE TIMES. THESE LIVES WERE DIFFICULT FOR
HER. IN ONE INSTANCE, SHE
WAS EXECUTED FOR SORCERY. THE SORCERY WAS GOOD —
IT WAS THE REACTION OF THE
PEOPLE THAT WAS BAD.
EM: If we were together in Rome and we are again
now, what is our purpose?
THERE IS INDEED A PURPOSE. THIS TEACHING IS ONE
OF SPIRITUAL GROWTH. THIS
TEACHING WAS OFFERED TO YOU BEFORE AND YOU
REJECTED IT, AS MANY DID. NOW IT
IS UP TO YOU TO HEAR IT NOW OR WAIT ANOTHER TWO
THOUSAND YEARS. IT IS
ESSENTIAL THAT YOU COMPLETE THIS MONAD. WE DO
NOT PARTICULARLY CARE HOW LONG
IT TAKES YOU. WE SHALL BE AROUND [as a mid
causal teacher] FOR AT LEAST THAT
LONG.
EM: What is so special about every two thousand
years?
WE ARE REFERRING TO THE PHILOSOPHICAL CLIMATE
EXISTING THEN WHICH HAS NOT
EXISTED SINCE, UNTIL VERY RECENTLY. THIS
PHILOSOPHICAL CLIMATE MADE THE
CONDITIONS RIGHT FOR THE MANIFESTATIONS OF THE
INFINITE SOUL. IF YOU WISH
SOME PARALLELS BETWEEN THEN AND NOW, WE WILL
GLADLY EXPOUND. THE INFINITE
SOUL MANIFESTS AT TIMES SUCH AS THIS WHEN THERE
IS MUCH PHILOSOPHICAL
STAGNATION, RACIAL AND RELIGIOUS STRIFE, AND THE
EMINENT DESTRUCTION OF THAT
WHICH BINDS SOCIETY TOGETHER. IN ROME, AS NOW,
LIP SERVICE WAS PAID TO
RELIGIOUS TOLERANCE, BUT THERE WERE PERIODIC
PURGES AND REINSTATEMENT OF THE
STATE GODS. THE PARALLEL TO THIS OCCURRED IN
NAZI GERMANY. THEY HAD
POLITICAL PARTIES WHERE THE LINES OF DEMARCATION
HAD BECOME SO BLURRED THAT
NO ONE KNEW QUITE WHERE HE STOOD. LUXURY WAS
AVAILABLE ON A WIDESPREAD BASIS
AND COULD BE OBTAINED THROUGH LITTLE EFFORT. THE
WELFARE STATE CAME INTO
EXISTENCE. THEN CITIES WERE CROWDED, AND THE
CITY DWELLERS WERE ALIENATED
FROM EACH OTHER. THERE WAS A DETERIORATION OF
THE FAMILY AND THE RATIO OF
DISTURBED CHILDREN WAS COMPATIBLE WITH THE
FIGURE NOW. THE WOMEN'S
LIBERATION MOVEMENT WAS CAUSING FEAR IN THE MEN,
AND THEY WERE SO WORRIED
ABOUT THEIR VIRILITY THAT THEY HAD LITTLE
INTEREST IN ANYTHING ELSE. THIS
BROUGHT ABOUT MANY SMALL WARS THAT WERE FOUGHT
ON THE BATTLEGROUNDS RATHER
THAN THE BEDROOMS. DOES THAT SOUND FAMILIAR?
WALKING INTO A LATRINE DURING
THE FIRST CENTURY OF THIS ERA WOULD NOT BE AN
UNFAMILIAR EXPERIENCE FOR ANY
OF YOU. YOU WOULD BE RIGHT AT HOME WITH THE
GRAFFITI EXHORTING VARIOUS
SOLITARY SEXUAL PURSUITS.
SB: Was my name Fritz when I was that German
Chief of Police?
MANNHEIM WOLFF. YES, HE WAS CALLED "FRITZ".
RH: It seems to me that ES's past lives were out
of role for a scholar.
THOSE WERE ONLY A FEW OF THIS MAN'S PHYSICAL
INTERVALS, AND THEY WERE NOT SO
FAR OUT OF ESSENCE AS YOU MIGHT BELIEVE.
SCHOLARS DO NOT USUALLY LIKE TO
WORK, AND WILL PROSTITUTE THEMSELVES IN VARIOUS
WAYS FOR THE QUICK KILL IN
ORDER TO LEAVE TIME FOR THEIR OWN SOLITARY
PURSUITS. IN HER VERY FEW FEMALE
LIVES, S.C. MADE AN EXCELLENT PROSTITUTE,
COMPLETELY DETACHED EMOTIONALLY,
AND ALL BUSINESS. E.S. WAS A VERY SCHOLARLY
EXTORTIONIST.
RH: Didn't ES ever have any good, useful lives?
OH, MANY. E.S. HAS BEEN A LIBRARIAN OVER MANY
FAMOUS COLLECTIONS, THE MOST
NOTABLE ONE BEING IN ATHENS DURING THE TIME OF
PLATO.
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