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THE POSTS:

 

Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 21:36:40 +0000
Subject: Working on the Dragons

Kenneth wrote:

 

> I have a chief feature/dragon of "Impatience".

 

Thanks Kenneth for the tips I can use it in my Class. Does anyone else have similar to share??

I have the "Self-deprication" dragon and it really gets its claws into me when I have to use the telephone - then I really have to keep on and do my call - its hard but very rewarding when I get through it.

Thanks again
Jon Bjarni


Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 15:46:57 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: Working on the Dragons

Hi Jon and welcome. :^)

It's my opinion that the chief-features are one of the most important teachings that Michael has brought forth. They help show us where we still have fear-based patterns running our lives, and show us where our major life lessons are. I think that if we take the attitude of being thankful for our chief features for showing us what we need to work on, it keeps us from feeling so stoic about the chief-feature, as in, oh well--I'm just an impatient (or whatever) and leave it at that. We can choose to use them as indicators of our spiritual growth and look upon them more as challenges than hinderances, so they then do not have quite so much power over us.... Maybe they should be called "challenging features," instead of dragons or obstacles, so they don't have such the negative connotation. :^)

Blessings,
Lori


Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 19:43:18 -0400
Subject: Life Tasks & Paths

POSITIVE SAYING OF THE DAY
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The road to happiness lies in two simple principles: find what it is that interests you and that you can do well, and when you find it, put your whole soul into it -- every bit of energy and ambition and natural ability you have.

 

-- John D. Rockefeller III

 

Do you suppose that good ol' John D. knew something that we don't? Mmm?

--
Peace and Light to You and Yours,
Kenneth Broom, Columbia, MD, USA
aka I.A.M. Research
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Emotional Part of Intellectual Center, Impatience. (INFP)
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Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 18:07:25 +0000

Thanks for the quote, Ken. I am giving a class to some high schoolers on Thursday that I will now open with this quote.

John


Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 01:54:26 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Chief Features

Ken writes:

 

<< 1) My first work with impatience was to just be aware of when I was
being impatient and especially when I was in the negative pole which is
intolerance.

2) The second step is to try to stay in the positive pole which is
audacity. >>

 

ROFLMMFAO! ;-p

Ken, did you really want to say that you strive to promote your audacity? This makes it sound like you have an approach like a dentist's drill to combating the difficulties of your CF. ;-p
I didn't think there really WAS a positive side to a CF, and that the only escape was to learn to eliminate it altogether. But I suppose being audacious is better than embracing intolerance. Haha
Actually, I didn't miss your last entry concerning the eventual installment of "patience", but I just HAD to comment about the audacity step, as it sent me riveting into little pearls of delightful merriment.

Anyhow, thanks for the informative 3 step outline. I'll try to apply it to my CF of STUBBORNESS. :-)

My name is Dave - No, it's not! - Yes it is - No, it's not! - Yes, it is!!!


Date: Tue, 07 Oct 1997 06:33:55 -0400
Subject: Re: Chief Features

Dave Gregg wrote:

 

> Ken writes:
> << 1) My first work with impatience was to just be aware of when I was
> being impatient and especially when I was in the negative pole which is
> intolerance.
>
> 2) The second step is to try to stay in the positive pole which is audacity. > >
>
> ROFLMMFAO! ;-p

 

Dave, what is "MMFAO"?

 

> Ken, did you really want to say that you strive to promote your audacity?

 

You'd better believe it. It's a hell of a lot better than the negpole of intolerance, and the ensuing frustration, that had me talking like a machine gun because I was "actually afraid" that I'd not ever be allowed to finish all that I had to say during a conversation. This is real important stuff for a scholar in observation who deeply needs to express all that collected knowledge.

What was I intolerant of...?
a) other peoples tendencies to cut me off during a conversation,
b) my own tendency to get really really irritated when they did that,
c) my own intolerance of others who couldn't see what I saw, nor comprehend what I comprehended,
d) my own frustration at my own ignorance of why people could not know that I was always right.

This was a real blow to my fragile little ego.

 

> This makes it sound like you have an approach like a dentist's drill to
> combating the difficulties of your CF. ;-p

 

For myself what I needed was to be self-confidence, and then to project that self-confidence. After that people started to listen to me without interruptions. And what I also needed was to be tolerant of the points of view of other people who experienced life differently than I did.

 

> I didn't think there really WAS a positive side to a CF, and that the only
> escape was to learn to eliminate it altogether. But I suppose being audacious
> is better than embracing intolerance. Haha

 

Again, you'd better know it. The point was for me to "experience" and "be aware of" the various effects of impatience, from both poles, not only on me, but also on others. This was a major major lesson for me for about the first 40 years of my life. T'weren't funny McGee. I am not and never have been a competitive person, and to have to fight to get my words into a conversation was a living hell for me. This was especially so with my being a know-it-all scholar. There was also my own intolerance of other people's points of view which made them feel a need to cut me off, because I was an arrogant f--king know it all who was always right and everybody else was wrong.

 

> Actually, I didn't miss your last entry concerning the eventual installment
> of "patience", but I just HAD to comment about the audacity step, as it sent
> me riveting into little pearls of delightful merriment.

 

The emotional pain and discomfort that I experienced and caused others were not at all funny. This especially in light of my goal of acceptance that accepted other people's perceived values of me as being in someway true. I felt that there was something wrong with me.

 

> Anyhow, thanks for the informative 3 step outline. I'll try to apply it to my
> CF of STUBBORNESS. :-)

 

You're completely welcome. Look at the past and present effects your stubbornness has had on your relationships with others and yourself, and "on" other people. Can you write a mini essay about your comprehensions of stubbornness yet?

--
TAO's Peace and Light to You, my Brother,
Kenneth Broom, Columbia, MD, USA
aka I.A.M. Research
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7th Level Old Scholar, Observation, Acceptance, Idealist,
Emotional Part of Intellectual Center, Impatience. (INFP)
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Date: Tue, 07 Oct 1997 16:15:55 -0700
Subject: visiting past lives

Greetings! This is my maiden voyage on the list. Thanks everybody for the archive goodies I've been enjoying for the past hour -- there's some really good stuff -- and to Gloria_C for luring me here.

Thanks, Dave and Lori for "A touching story":

 

> "The Eklunds called last night," he began.
>
> "Really?" I said. "I haven't heard from them in years. I wonder how Mark is."
>
> Dad responded quietly. "Mark was killed in Vietnam," he said.

 

It makes me think of a program I saw a few nights ago. National Geographic followed four American Vietnam vets on a Harley ride from Saigon to Hanoi. Maybe you saw this. The guys visited places where they'd been wounded 30 years before, where they'd felt the mortal terror of combat, where their buddies had been killed, where they'd killed and wounded others. They sang songs penned by friends who'd died in the fields there, gave the local folks Harley rides; accepted invitations into the villagers' homes, something they said didn't happen in the '60s on account of the fear and suspicion that pervaded the country then. It was like watching these guys visit a past lifetime while they were still in this one. They were able to reconnect with these intense karmic moments, find some peace with them, and help heal the land and people they had been at war with. One guy had helped spray the countryside from a plane with tree-killing chemicals in order to expose trails the Viet Cong was using. He remarked how strange it was now to return to this place he'd done that kind of thing to. Another of the guys kept remarking how beautiful the mountains were, and how 30 years before he'd just been too scared to notice. When they got to Hanoi, the government officials there threw them a big party, and everybody wanted and got a Harley ride. Good Old Warrior stuff.

David Wolfersberger
   
7th old songwriter/warrior/priest, discrimination, observation, skeptic, arrogance, moving/intellectual, 1st entity
   Most Exquisitely Frustrating Life Challenge: Creating a way to prosper doing work I love.
   Brightest Dream: To wear Hawaiian shirts and bring people together in beautiful places to make music and higher vibes.
   Wisdom for Today (forwarded): Never do card tricks for the group you play poker with.
   Wisdom for Tomorrow (forwarded): Don't sweat the petty things ... or pet the sweaty things.


Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 21:38:18 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: re: impatience

Hi Everyone -

I'm sort of a lurker, I guess, I just never have the time to say much at any given time.

But I'm beginning to think that the whole rest of the world is in the Intellectual Center.
Or PART thereof.

I am basically (ha ha) Emotionally Centered , Moving Part - just introduced my Intellectual Part to the rest at age 35 or so when I began this "TREK." I never liked to read and in fact never read a whole book of my own free will until I was 35. An Astrology book. I was an only child and spent all my time outdoors "exploring", climbing trees, running, riding a bike etc, so I could see all the new places we traveled to. Spent a LOT OF TIME FEELING what I did. No time to read.

Anyway what I'm getting at, for example, even tho My secondary CF is impatience, I NEVER ever thought of using it in a verbal fashion. When I get impatient I express it by MOVING , usually much to my regret. I get frustrated when I'm looking for something in a hurry and end up pulling drawers out of the cabinet. I slam doors.
My fingers get all tangled up pulling out my car keys, when I write fast, I I leave "e's" off the end of words like where, the, here, care, etc. My frustrations always take the form of an action. And, of course, I'm usually upset/frustrated at the time.

I HAVE (thank me) learned to control this obnoxious curse when I'm driving however,, ie. no accidents or anything because of it - but that's only because of several very near misses!

I've not ever felt a need to verbally not stop - wellllllll maybe once - wellllll maybe twice but not regularly.

      LOVE & HUGS to all the family. <3 Pati* :-)


Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 21:51:18 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Chief Features

In a message dated 97-10-07 07:01:34 EDT, Ken Broom writes:

 

<< Dave, what is "MMFAO"? >>

 

In a slightly censored version, it means: my mother f-word "ing" a-word off! ;-p

 

<< Can you write a mini essay about your comprehensions of stubbornness yet? >>

 

I don't know if I can write a mini essay about my CF of stubborness, but I have a lurid little drama about my exploration into the suffocating grip of self-deprecation. I don't know if this is interesting for the general public, so if you find the first paragraph exceedingly tedious, here's a bile smoothie to ease the pain. ;-p

Mini Essay of "How I Spent my Summer Vacation with Self-Deprecation" ;-p

I sometimes find myself staring pensively into the mirror of my soul, scrutinizing the ruins of my past, a graveyard of mortar and stone, robbed of life and color by centuries of continuous existence. It is dark now, and patiently, the fingers of the moon inventory the catacombs of my essence with the skill of an experienced curator. The soft, lunar light continues to unravel substance from shadow until finally, fully illuminated, stands a form. The man is fragile and weak, and pathetically dirty. It is known that when creatures of the night allow themselves to become this soiled, it is usually a sign that they have given up. The man is holding an instrument in his hands. Silently, he works the keys, sadly reminded of the music he had once shared with the world, melodic shadows now forsaken in the inner recesses of his mind. Trembling, he puts the saxophone to his lips and begins to serenade the evening air, a lugubrious nocturne that laments the loss of dreams; painful echos that sound like a child's laughter -- taunting, teasing, and cruel.

Darkness completely envelops this landscape of ruin, and the last mournful note from the saxophone cries out into the night. All is silent in the landscape now, and whatever walks there, walks alone.

Dave


Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 19:54:19 +0000
Subject: Re: sax and violence

<tragically clipped in its prime>

 

> Darkness completely envelops this landscape of ruin, and the last mournful > note from the saxophone cries out into the night. All is silent in the > landscape now, and whatever walks there, walks alone.

 

Excuse me, everyone. I just need to go throw myself off this cliff now. See you next lifetime.

Dean


Date: Tue, 07 Oct 1997 23:40:29 -0400

Dean wrote:

 

> <tragically clipped in its prime>
> > > > Darkness completely envelops this landscape of ruin, and the last mournful > > note from the saxophone cries out into the night. All is silent in the > > landscape now, and whatever walks there, walks alone. > > > > Excuse me, everyone. I just need to go throw myself off this cliff > now. See you next lifetime. > > Dean

 

Kenneth is R.O.T.F.L.H.A.O.

--
Peace and Light to You and Yours,
Kenneth Broom, Columbia, MD, USA
aka I.A.M. Research
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7th Level Old Scholar, Observation, Acceptance, Idealist,
Emotional Part of Intellectual Center, Impatience. (INFP)
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Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 00:33:00 -0400 (EDT)

ROFLMMFAO! Come on, Ken. Loosen up man. Your jazz is so stiff, brother. You'll never play some bebop with dem honky assed harmonies. ;-p

Dave - Be cool, man


Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 01:17:24 -0400 (EDT)

In a message dated 97-10-07 22:56:38 EDT, Dean writes:

 

<<: Excuse me, everyone. I just need to go throw myself off this cliff
now. See you next lifetime.

Dean >>

 

{Giving Dean a gentle, but well placed nudge from behind} ;-p

"Goodbye, Dean! I hope you hit all the sharp rocks on your way down." (Sighing) "What a waste...and he would have made such a good bulldozer advocate."

{Yelling down to the crocodiles swarming in the river below} "Hey fellows, human flesh is already quite salty, so becareful about any seasonings you might add!"

Dave - Just another day in the life...


Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 05:46:37 -0400
Subject: Sax and Violins

Dave Gregg wrote:

[clipped]

 

> Dave - Be cool, man

 

Yo, Dave. I'm hip to what you're tryna say, my man. I live in a reality where every thought, word, and deed, whether abbreviated or not, is a command to the the universe to "make it real". So calling any part of my Blessed Beingness any kind of Maryland-Farmer-anything is out of my personal lexicon. You dig, bro? Jus' pullin' your jive coat to a few happnins. Word up. Gotta keep it real like it sposed to be. You dig? It's all about LOVE. Ain't nothin else happnin. Plus bein' cool ain't all that hip anymore anyway. Love is what's really happnin.

So, much love to you, my brother. It's a beautiful world out there and in here, if we only have eyes to see it and ears to hear it. There's some pretty nice smelling roses too. The breeze feels good on the skin, and the water flows sweetly down the throat. I am truly blessed in all things...except...Hey, John Rogers, can I have one of your Bud Lights? <lots of laughter>

TAO Bless us all. :>)#

Peace and Light to You and Yours,
Kenneth Broom, Columbia, MD, USA
aka I.A.M. Research
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7th Level Old Scholar, Observation, Acceptance, Idealist,
Emotional Part of Intellectual Center, Impatience. (INFP)
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Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 13:35:50 -0400 (EDT)

In a message dated 97-10-08 05:47:44 EDT, Ken Broom writes:

 

<< You dig? It's all about LOVE. Ain't nothin else happnin. Plus bein' cool ain't all that hip anymore anyway. Love is what's really happnin. >>

 

Shhhhhhit...Ain't dat vhat I wuz sayin', man? ;-p

Dave - Be cool, bro. ;-p


Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 23:03:50 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Chief Features

Dave,

Wow, beautiful.... I was there with you, man....

 

<< melodic shadows now forsaken in the inner recesses of his mind... >>

 

...reminds me of those places where you don't quite glimpse the figure that has just walked around the corner ... then a remembered conversation drifts by...

 

<< a lugubrious nocturne that laments the loss of dreams; painful echos that sound like a child's laughter -- taunting, teasing, and cruel. >>

 

...and though the words of the conversation are long forgotten, the impact of those memories etches its initials on your soul...

Ravi Nam


Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 06:46:43 -0400
Subject: Sharing a poem with friends

 

INNOCENT IMMORTAL

In the beginning was the word. No sound. One Word.
And the word was made two,
and beheld itself,
and each other.
And this was good.

In the beginning was another word. No sound. One more word.
And the word was made more,
and beheld itself again,
and the few of them.
And this was better.

In the beginning was a further word. Still no sound.
And the word was made even more,
and beheld itself still again,
and the many of them.
And this was much better.

In the beginning thrice more was the word.
And each word was without sound.
And thrice more beheld itself,
and all of them.
And each was better than before.

In the beginning was the last word.
And this sound could be heard,
yet could not behold itself,
and could not behold any others.

The "Innocent Immortal" is born.

- - - - -

Innocent child of uncountable gods,
How come you by your blindness?

Why surrender your robe of immortality
for the mask of threat and death?

Who can threaten you?
...and with what?

Why relinquish the power of your divine will?
Why take up the crutch of human emotion?

Why do you fear your own creations?
Why do you anger at your own fear?

Why do you crave that which is already yours?
and
Why do you fear that which you love?

Why in thought?

Why in word?

Why indeed?

- - - - -

You tell me your fears retreat from some threat.
I tell you your fears retreat from themselves,
and invite more threat.

You tell me your angers protect what is yours.
I tell you your angers fan their own fires,
and will burn you yet.

You tell me you desire to love and be loved.
I tell you all love is yours.
There's no need to fret.

You tell me you hate violence and crime.
I tell you our kids need you.
Please take the time.

You cry out your pain and scream out your frustration,
saying this crazy world is our ruination.

I tell you your pain is a self-wrought thing,
and frustration is truly a temporary swing.

- - - - -

All of his fears and all of his pain
couldn't put humpty together again.

But his quiet divinity could... and did.

Divine Child of the Universe,
You are descended from royalty.

You were given the universe for a toy.

You made galaxies and suns and planets out of the
clay of GOD stuff.

You gave yourself a body
so you could climb inside your little solar systems,
and play "house" with yourselves.

and you know what else you did...?

Hmm...?

You forgot that you were only playing.

You forgot your divinity and became a body.
You forgot your creator-ness and became only a creature.

You became innocent,

and you became un-aware.

Yet still... mighty like a GOD.

- - - - -

AWAKEN, MY BELOVED CHILD.

Your time is now nigh.

Rise into your full glory.

Soar among your stars and galaxies.

Live the life you were meant to live.

Awaken into the full awareness of your GODness.

The Infinite Here awaits your presence.

The Eternal Now awaits your attention.

My universe is yours.

Please claim it.

- - - - -

You are my PEACE, and You are my JOY.

You are my LOVE, and my LIGHT.

You are my TRUTH, my BEAUTY, and my GOODNESS.

You are my ABUNDANCE. You are my SERENITY.

You are my HEALTH and my WELL BEING.

You are my WISDOM... and You are my FULFILLMENT.

- - - - -

My Child... YOU are... MY... I AM.

Know this well... for with you and all others... this be truly so.

Amen.

 

--
Peace and Light to You and Yours,
Kenneth Broom, Columbia, MD, USA
aka I.A.M. Research
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7th Level Old Scholar, Observation, Acceptance, Idealist,
Emotional Part of Intellectual Center, Impatience. (INFP)
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Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 00:42:21 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Challenging features

In a message dated 10/7/97 4:30:30 AM, you wrote:

 

<< It's my opinion that the chief-features are one of the most important teachings that Michael has brought forth. They help show us where we still have fear-based patterns running our lives, and show us where our major life lessons are. I think that if we take the attitude of being thankful for our chief features for showing us what we need to work on, it keeps us from feeling so stoic about the chief-feature, as in, oh well--I'm just an impatient (or whatever) and leave it at that. We can choose to use them as indicators of our spiritual growth and look upon them more as challenges than hinderances, so they then do not have quite so much power over us.... Maybe they should be called "challenging features," instead of dragons or obstacles, so they don't have such the negative connotation. :^) >>

 

Lori,
Bingo
I believe you have hit on (ahem, channeled) the correct name here. I never felt chief feature was very descriptive, derivitive from Gurdjieff perhaps, but it didn't work for me. And Jose's dragons just seemed cute, made up to grab people's interest (not a bad idea overall) but not a satisfying term for me. When The World Acc to Michael is next revised, Challenging Features it is! And after my few hundred overleaf sheets are used, I'll change it there too. challenging features: Makes me sit up and listen.

thanks hon,
Joya


Date: Thu, 09 Oct 1997 07:16:27 -0400
Subject: Re: Challenging features

Joya Pope wrote:

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> Bingo
> I believe you have hit on (ahem, channeled) the correct name here. I never
> felt chief feature was very descriptive, derivitive from Gurdjieff perhaps,
> but it didn't work for me. And Jose's dragons just seemed cute, made up to
> grab people's interest (not a bad idea overall) but not a satisfying term for
> me. When The World Acc to Michael is next revised, Challenging Features it
> is! And after my few hundred overleaf sheets are used, I'll change it there
> too. challenging features: Makes me sit up and listen.

 

per Kenneth:
FWIW: here's my 2 cents. How about "Chief Challenge"? The alliteration gives it a pleasant "ring" and appears to be more accurately descriptive of what the CF really is rather than "Something-Feature". <smile>

 

> thanks hon,

 

Joya, I grew up in Baltimore, Maryland. Appending the word "Hon" after a statement was/is a affectionate feature of our Baltimorese way of speaking. It was even used with pleasant strangers. Your using "Hon" with Lori brought back a little feeling of nostalgia for the days when every kid was everybody's kid.

An amusing aside: No grown man would "ever" call another grown man 'Hon'.

Peace and Light to all us Hons,
Kenneth Broom, Columbia, MD, USA
aka I.A.M. Research
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7th Level Old Scholar, Observation, Acceptance, Idealist,
Emotional Part of Intellectual Center, Impatience. (INFP)
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Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 12:03:15 EDT
Subject: Re: Challenging features

Dear Joya -- Great idea. I have the impression that "chief feature" was lifted as a term from Gurdjieffism, and they probably were awkwardly translating something in perhaps French. In any case, "chief feature" is an utterly stupid term that should have gone long ago. "Feature" is too vague and generalized, and a vague and generalized things aren't easily "chief". Michael's idea was to use some precision in describing their concepts.

I like "challenge" because that is what it's about. The only problem with "challenge" is that people will often understand it to refer to a set of outer circumstances in life the person is living, rather than an internal psychological belief-system complex idea we have. Is there a simple and brief way to also incorporate the belief-system idea?

All the best, Ed


Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 16:40:28 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: another poem....

Kenneth, your poetry is truly inspiring. I would also like to share a poem I wrote a couple years ago, one that is really an ode to essence-twins and essence-mates, as I know them... :^) It's from my soon-to-be-dismantled home page, where I have a drawing that goes along with it....

Love, Lori

 

The Mirror of the Soul
----------------------
As I gaze into the Mirror,
There is a glint in my brown eyes,
Behind the veil of wonder,
I seek the entity from Within.

You are in the Mirror
Looking back at me.
I see your eyes,
Another color....
They tell the days of eternity,

Freedom, the wind, the sky,
The stars are whispering
Our name....

Our name,
It is the same,
One in the Same...
It is Truth.

My hand reaches out
And touches the Mirror...
Your hand touches mine
In perfect symmetry.


We are energy in motion,
Spirit--Light--Love,
In harmony with Life,
Essence resonates,
Etheric music arising,
From inner silent peace.

From inside,
Sparks of Light emerge,
And the Light of Spirit
Is transparent to Mirrors,
Light passes right through,
Merging back to the source,
That the Inner Light reveals....

The Nature of the Essence,
of the One Spirit,
In Truth--Oneness--Love,
We are the very same.
The same glint in the eyes,
Is from the same Spirit-essence.

The Mirror dissolves in Light,
Duality returns to Oneness,
As we realize our True Self
Was never separate at all.

 


Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 15:30:09 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Digest No. 1997-10-10 of Michael Teachings List

 

> How about "Chief Challenge"?

 

I, too, have been thinking lately about a better term, and I like this, but I'm not sure about the alliteration in "chief challenge": the double ch sound feels awkward to say, and the "enge" is similar. How about "chief obstacle"?

I think I'll move in that direction, although revising "Journey" to make that change would probably be too expensive. Thanks for the thought.

Shepherd


Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 18:08:16 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: re: Challenging Feature - Inner Challenges

Hi ED!

I like your thinking. Challenge IS what its about. BUT it's not a set of outer circumstances, rather it is an internal thing -

So. What about "Inner Challenges" - or "Internal Challenges?"

Just another 2 cents - LOVE TO ALL the FAMILY <3 Pati* :-)


Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 22:01:31 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: the saga of chief features' renaming

Well .... I don't know about these renaming suggestions, yet....internal challenges sounds like something that may require the services of a gastroenterologist!

another 2 cents worth

Ravi Nam K


Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 19:33:02 PDT
Subject: * About Love *

Greetings everyone...... Greetings to Kenneth in particular.......

I want to tell you how much I loved your post of yesterday...... the prose and the poetry............ Wonderfully uplifting! Thanks for sharing.........

This whole seeming labyrinth of 'life-on-Earth' is but about that one thing....... isn't it........... about the One called Love.......

Along the same lines, I wanted to share with you the result of a meditation experience I had yesterday.

I was in meditation.......... seeking.......... and discovered that THAT which I sought......... was seeking me too....... Following are the thoughts of our union and communion........

Harmony ......I AM.... quiet..... peace ...... joy........ Love IS.... that is all.... Love IS.... that is all.... Love IS... that is all..... awaken.....Love is All.... Awaken... that is all... Love is you... Love IS... Love is you..... that is all... awaken.... and Be...... Awaken... and Be.... Awaken.... and Be....... Be yourSelf.... that is all... Be the Love..... that you ARE..... be youSelf..... Be Love..... All else.... release....give it over...... To ME...... Give it over.... to ME.... give it over to ME..... I AM fire....... I shall burn..... through all debris..... of fear..... through all debris...... of confusion...... through all debris...... of pain..... through your debris .... of pain and guilt...... I Am Love..... Love heals...... I Am Love..... Iíll heal you..... I Am Love...... donít forget.... the time is here......the time is now...... You are Love.... be yourSelf....You are Love......Your are I..... we are ONE...... All is One...... I Am here...... I Am Now..... I AM All..... All there is..... I Am You...... You are I..... we are One...... We are Love...... Children of Light.... be Self...... Children of Love..... love, love.....Children of love.... love, love..... Children of love...love.. love...... Children of Love...... love.. love..... I Am Light..... I Am born...... I Am Light....... I Am born.....in your cells in your heart...... I AM here..... I Am now...... I am you..... that is All...... I Am you.... I AM love...... be yourSelf..... be I AM..... I AM YOU..... I AM I ...... One I AM..... Breathe deeply..... Feel me there....... in your heart..... I AM......be still.....hear me there..... hear me say..... I love you.......I DO...... I love you..... I DO.....I love you.... I DO...... I love you..... I DO...... Do not fear..... All is well...... Do not fear...... all is well..... Do not fear...... All is well..... Hear me..... Hear me...... Hear me.....

May the music of your Truth reverberate throughout your being......

Love to all,

Jasmine
Im*a


Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 20:30:08 -0700
Subject: Re: the saga of chief features' renaming

Ravi Nam wrote:

 

> Well .... I don't know about these renaming suggestions, yet....internal
> challenges sounds like something that may require the services of a
> gastroenterologist!

 

Ravi--you are just TOO funny, girl! :^D
I had no idea a little comment like renaming the chief features could stir up so much....LOL!
Surprised too, that that long post I did on comments/etc. on the 9 needs didn't even get the scholars to budge!! Heheheh....
Shows what I know.... :^P

Love,
Lori


Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 01:15:13 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Challenging features

I thought about Chief Challenge for a bit as being an even better phrase, but then landed back enamoured with challenging features. Chief challenge makes me feel I should be hearing about the worst karma I've chewed off, not my little ol' blind spot....... impatience.

Like Ken, I love being a little audacious, sometimes a lot audacious. My husband enjoys it too except for the times it makes him cringe because of some line I supposedly insensitively stepped over. ;-)

Joya


Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 01:40:19 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Challenging features

In a message dated 97-10-11 01:19:23 EDT, Joya Pope writes:

 

<< Like Ken, I love being a little audacious, sometimes a lot audacious. My husband enjoys it too except for the times it makes him cringe because of some line I supposedly insensitively stepped over. ;-) Joya >>

 

Oh, my Lord. You should never step over a man's line. That's not only a severe deflation to their precious ego, but it may bring back all those humiliating memories from the shower room in gym class. But worst yet, never talk about a man's line while holding a pair of tweezers in your hand. JUST DON'T DO IT! ;-P

Thought for the day: Never go to bed with a woman that likes to whittle in bed.

Dave


Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 10:24:15 -0400
Subject: Re: another poem....

Lori Tostado wrote:

 

> The Mirror of the Soul
> ----------------------
> As I gaze into the Mirror,
> There is a glint in my brown eyes,
> Behind the veil of wonder,
> I seek the entity from Within.
> [clipped]
> The Mirror dissolves in Light,
> Duality returns to Oneness,
> As we realize our True Self
> Was never separate at all.

 

You know, Lori, every now and then I thank GOD just for its being. I hereby thank "You" for "Your" wonderful being. Your starting the Michael Teaching List has been a very deep and expansive blessing in my life, and an integral part of my own "Life Path". TAO Bless you very much. <smile> and <lump in throat>. I love you too.

You know... there's something very special going on with this list. I think/feel we all know each other, and are part of each other, including the lurkers. But it's even deeper than that. I don't know what it is..., but it's getting stronger and more beautiful day by day. If love is the connection that everything has with everything else then I guess that "something-special" feeling is called love.

Now and then I "lurk in" on some of the other lists on SpiritWeb and I can sense the same love growing there also. Ain't it just great.

Many many thanks to Rene' for starting and maintaining this wonderful web site.

--
Peace and Light to You and Yours,
Kenneth Broom, Columbia, MD, USA
aka I.A.M. Research
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7th Level Old Scholar, Observation, Acceptance, Idealist,
Emotional Part of Intellectual Center, Impatience. (INFP)
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Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 10:41:07 -0400
Subject: Re: * About Love *

Jasmine Zidaric wrote:

[clipped]

 

> Along the same lines, I wanted to share with you the result of a
> meditation experience I had yesterday.
>
> I was in meditation.......... seeking.......... and discovered that THAT
> which I sought......... was seeking me too.......
> Following are the thoughts of our union and communion........

 

[clipped]

Dear Jasmine,

Thank you for sharing your experience. Your way of expressing touched me very deeply. Another lesson in using audible silence to frame rhythmic words of truth. I truly felt your heart center. <another lump in my throat>.

Boy! If all this beautiful "Essence Poetry" keeps popping up I won't be able to talk for a week. Rene' has even more of it in a special section of SpiritWeb called Spiritual Poetry, (i think?), or something like that.

BTW: Jasmine, what does "Im'a" mean and how is it pronounced?

[clipped]

 

> May the music of your Truth > reverberate throughout your being......

--
Peace and Light to You and Yours,
Kenneth Broom, Columbia, MD, USA
aka I.A.M. Research
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7th Level Old Scholar, Observation, Acceptance, Idealist,
Emotional Part of Intellectual Center, Impatience. (INFP)
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Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 11:10:01 -0400
Subject: Re: the saga of chief features' renaming

Lori Tostado wrote:

[clipped]

 

> Surprised too, that that long post I did on comments/etc. on the 9 needs
> didn't even get the scholars to budge!! Heheheh....
> Shows what I know.... :^P

 

Lori, this is really interesting. I had just the very day before your long post re-read about the 9 needs at one of the other Michael web sites. It was like "Oh, that's interesting." and that was it. I noted my three main needs, and then surfed on off to somewhere else. I wonder why the apathy here. I don't even remember my three main needs, or is it that I just don't want to deal with them right now? Hmmm. More thoughts for food.

--
Peace and Light to You and Yours,
Kenneth Broom, Columbia, MD, USA
aka I.A.M. Research
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7th Level Old Scholar, Observation, Acceptance, Idealist,
Emotional Part of Intellectual Center, Impatience. (INFP)
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -


Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 11:46:40 -0400
Subject: Re: Challenging features

Joya Pope wrote:

 

> I thought about Chief Challenge for a bit as being an even better phrase, but
> then landed back enamoured with challenging features. Chief challenge makes
> me feel I should be hearing about the worst karma I've chewed off, not my
> little ol' blind spot....... impatience.

 

From a Scholar in Observation:

Hey guys, take a closer look at the varied reasons people are giving for prefering (or not) a specific re-name for the Chief Feature. It says a lot about our individual resonance and avoidance patterns. Really interesting, eh? Somehow I feel as though no one who is considering a rename of the CF will come up with a term that is sufficiently descriptive and, at the same time, is also personally comfortable. I think this may be due to the nature of the CF itself, and to our "perceptions" of what it is.

per Michael in "More Messages from Michael" (page 38):
"...and we will say again that there are no good chief features. All chief features are based in fear, and fear is the driving force behind all negative poles in the overleaves and in the cosmos for that matter."

per Kenneth:
Remember when I imitated/talked about Ramtha and he showed up. Well, talking about chief feature long enough will put us individually right smack dab into at least one of 'em, or if we do this without referring to a specific CF we'll experience them all as the the total concept of "Chief Feature" which is based in fears that manifest via the negpoles of other parts of the overleaves.

And very few of us want to face our fears, much less bring up the "hidden" fears by naming them all as a group. Whew! Does this make sense?

[clipped]

--
Peace and Light to You and Yours,
Kenneth Broom, Columbia, MD, USA
aka I.A.M. Research
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7th Level Old Scholar, Observation, Acceptance, Idealist,
Emotional Part of Intellectual Center, Impatience. (INFP)
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Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 17:17:57 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: another poem....

In a message dated 97-10-11 10:31:30 EDT, Ken Broom writes:

 

<< You know, Lori, every now and then I thank GOD just for its being. I
hereby thank "You" for "Your" wonderful being. Your starting the Michael
Teaching List has been a very deep and expansive blessing in my life,
and an integral part of my own "Life Path". TAO Bless you very much.
<smile> and <lump in throat>. I love you too.

You know... there's something very special going on with this list. I
think/feel we all know each other, and are part of each other, including
the lurkers. But it's even deeper than that. I don't know what it is...,
but it's getting stronger and more beautiful day by day. If love is the
connection that everything has with everything else then I guess that
"something-special" feeling is called love. >>

 

(Raising one eyebrow) ;-p

Ah, yes. You can just FEEL the love in this room. ;-p

The energized vibrations of this greater gestalt of awareness are hurling through the air like the meaty chunks of projectile vomiting; soothing, medicinal, industrial waste-type puke that lathers our bodies with an acidic cleansing -- healing, if you will.
Yes, yes..oh, God yes. We should all form a circle, hold hands, and sing songs!
No...better yet, we should strip away the incessant, tattered garments, those sartorial reminders that reflect the bondages of a judgemental society, and form a vast human pyramid, exposing our private parts in a grand gesture that symbolizes the blooming Sunflower of the Tao, as it arches its trembling petals towards the light; bursting its seeds in a display of orgasmic ecstacy!

Or then again, maybe not.

Dave - Yes, I know. I should have just stayed with Ken's original suggestion, but hey, a closed mouth gathers no feet. ;-p

 

 


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