<NancyG> Let's collect ourselves now. Bring you mind to the center of your being
and put aside all distractions. Have a glass of water handy if possible. The
body is a battery and the Michaels are pure energy, so it works better when we
are hydrated. Michael, are we ready?
<NancyG> We are here, and we welcome all
those who have joined us here tonight. From far and near you have come. This is
the meaning of community, that no matter the physical distance, no matter the
age differences, the class differences, the language differences, we are one.
Tonight we bring you the thought that there is nothing bigger than you in this
whole universe. Each of you is a universe in yourself. Within this universe that
is you, there is untold numbers of possibilities. When you contrive to make your
options one or two, you limit that universe unintentionally, and thus you
belittle yourselves. This is a common error throughout creation and not just
yours alone. But whenever and wherever it happens, you tighten your horizon and
pull in the barriers that prevent your expansion.
Breathe, now, with expansion. Let your
mind's eye rest on the limitless space that is behind your eyelids. If you
cannot see into the next galaxy (smile), then pretend that you can. Pretence is
not guile, it is the matter that leads to the reality. When your day seems to
fold in on you, close your eyes and find that endless, boundless infinity. Take
your breath there, and when you open your eyes, the claustrophobia will seems
less debilitating. In every breath you have endless possibilities. When things
seem hopeless, remember that.
We offer this as a promise. When we were
earthbound, we too had to find the horizons. And now we show it to you. We are
ready for the questions.
<DaveGregg> TM, you have the first question tonight...
<tm> thanks. I would like to ask about a relationship that has
just ended (so it seems). it was a bit traumatizing and I would like to know
what it was all about and whether it is done.
<NancyG> This relationship, which was
traumatic in the end, was meant to be a temporary one from the start. It was an
agreement to meet but not to partner for the rest of this life. Yes, we would
say that it is done. However, since there is always the chance that human beings
will change their minds, we do not say that with absolute conviction. But for
all intents and purposes, it is finished.
As for the reason for it, that is part of the evolution of the emotional center.
Growth in this center is based on reaching out and being reached. Not all such
efforts are meant to be permanent.
<tm> Have I learned what I was meant to learn here, or will I likely be
repeating the traumatic stuff many more times?
<NancyG> The lessons of this
relationship have been learned. We cannot promise that there never be any more
emotional upheavals for you.
<tm> (oh well!) Thank you!
<DaveGregg> Geraldine, you're next...
<GeraldineB> Hello, Nancy and Michael -- I'd like to ask about
any agreements that I have with James S. and any other information about our
growing relationship that might be pertinent.
<NancyG> This is what we might call an
ad hoc agreement, made during a lifetime and not before incarnation. This
fragment is new to you, not a form from the past. As we have said many times, if
you only meet those with whom you have had past experiences, the cycle of lives
would soon grow tedious. Every now and then you will meet a compatible fragment
and form a new agreement. This keeps the game interesting, does it not?
<NancyG> We observe, by the way, that
there is a good connection via the overleaves in this relationship.
<DaveGregg> Laughingboi, you're next...
<laughingboi> Could you tell me anything about my spirit guides
so I might know them better and is there anything they have been trying to get
through to me that I haven't been open enough to receiving consciously?
<NancyG> We observe three guardians
about this fragment. One is a male energy who would like to be known to the
woman Christine as Kolman. The second, less forthcoming energy, is neutral, a
weaver of dreams, one who has spoken to the woman Christine in sleep, especially
when she has been worried or grieving. The third is another male energy, whose
specialty is movement. This is the guide who promotes action in the life.
Regarding the question of receptivity, we are being told that these three
guardians have no concern about their mission. They seem quite content with
things as they are.
<laughingboi> Thank you.
<DaveGregg> LoriS, you're next...
<LoriS> I am looking for some insights on why I am experiencing
so much inner turmoil at this time in my life, up and down, with apparent
choices to make in several key areas of my life. What is going on?
<NancyG> As the channel had surmised,
the woman Lori is finishing the internal monad known as the 4th. This monad is a
rending of past conveniences and dismantling past accretions that no longer
work for the personality. That means a great deal of upheaval, or as the
fragment has said, turmoil.
Until the 4th internal monad many of the
beliefs, customs, opinions, and other robes of life have been acquired piecemeal
over 30 or 40 years. Many of these are perfectly workable and valuable. Some are
not. When there is a sense of wondering Who am I? What is it I really think?
Then the turmoil is reaching its zenith.
Working through these
questions and others like them is the work of this monad. When these questions
have been satisfactorily dealt with, and the fragment emerges with a sense of
exactly who it is, then we say that the monad has been completed in the positive
pole. At that time there is often a change that may include altering
friendships, dogmas, even professions. Anything that was undertaken at the
instigation of others and was not fully accepted by the fragment as part of
itself will be shucked off like the wrapping of the corncob. The emerging SELF
may find it necessary to undertake a number of changes, changes which may be
unsettling for a time, but in the end the 'new' person finds things far more to
<LoriS> How am I doing as far as completing this monad in the positive pole?
<NancyG> We see that there is some
distance yet to go, but that there has been much progress made toward the
desired end. We do not predict, but the probability that the woman Lori is about
75 percent of the way through seems accurate.
<LoriS> Thank you - I just did change my profession. :)
<DaveGregg> Danielle, you're next...
<Danielle> Would you please tell me what connections R. M. and I
have? Especially from the past. I recognized him right away when we first met.
<NancyG> The woman Danielle is correct.
There is an agreement between herself and the man R. They have shared four
lifetimes, one as mated partners. One life time they only briefly connected as
sailors working for the same shipping company but not often on the same vessel.
<Danielle> Thank you. Anything I need to know about this lifetime?
<NancyG> We suggest that this fragment
will have an interesting time learning about this old/new friend all over again.
We do see the undercurrent of the mated lifetime behind the present attraction.
We remind all of you that this may not carry over into subsequent lifetimes.
Each new coming together must be built anew. Knowing that there was a past
connection may or may not help this current relationship. Too much reliance on
past connections can sometimes fray an incipient connection. Let things take
their course and the old saying Time will tell, is appropriate here.
<Danielle> Thank you very much!
<DaveGregg> Vanessa, you're next...
<Vanessa> My sister died in January and now my mother has been
diagnosed with early-stage lung cancer. And while my inner world is in upheaval,
my outer world feels rather stuck in almost every area. What can you tell me
about all of this?
<NancyG> We offer our consoling energy
to this fragment for the loss of her sister and for the approaching difficulties
she will be facing regarding her mother. These are elements of the physical
plane where nothing is forever.
The fixedness that this woman Vanessa is experiencing is a reaction to the
turmoil of the inner concerns. The human psyche protects itself when it can by
not having to deal with too many problems simultaneously. The patterns of daily
life that the fragment has established have become static and seem boring now.
And quite likely they are. Would you, Vanessa, prefer that all parts of your
life were in upheaval at once?
<Vanessa> No, not at all. My sister also died of lung cancer and felt that
my mother was competitive with her. Is that part of why my mother got lung
cancer as well?
<NancyG> Then we believe that you have
answered your own question. We suggest that any particular area that you would
like to change you should consider doing so. IT may not be possible to alter
your professional situation, but other elements may lend themselves to change.
However, the greatest and most satisfying changes will come from your altering
the way you think about the things that you find boring or unsatisfactory for
whatever reason. Changing the way you think about them will effect the greatest
sense of satisfaction for you.
<Vanessa> Is there a connection between my sister and mother's both getting lung
<NancyG> Not in the way you might think.
There was no karma connection here. There is, however, a genetic propensity for
these two fragments to submit to the disease you describe, and this is why they
both have or had it.
<Vanessa> Do I have the same propensity?
<NancyG> We do not see this same genetic
pattern in your physical being. Unless something changes drastically in the next
few years, we think the probability that you will also suffer from cancer to be
in the neighborhood of 30 percent.
<Vanessa> Thank you Nancy and Michael.
<DaveGregg> DianeH, you're next...
<Diane_H> I recently read about pre-Colombian cultures in the
Americas and became very fascinated by recent discoveries about them. What past
life connections do I have with these cultures, if any, and in which culture (or
part of the continent)?
<NancyG> The woman Diane is responding
to the lure of a past that she experienced not once but several times. During
these lifetimes she sampled several of the cultures that were extant before the
European conquest of the Americas. Three lives were lived in the south western
part of the United States, among the Hopi, the Navajo, and among a group who
called themselves the Children of the Moon, but which is no longer a separate
tribe. Then there were two lifetimes on the southern American continent, one on
the western coast, one in the highlands of what is now Argentina.
<Diane_H> Thank you Nancy and Michael!
<DaveGregg> Mardel, you're next...
<Mardel> At a large Michael student gathering in Atlanta a number
of us had headaches that wouldn't go away, despite ibuprofen and grounding
exercises. What was the cause of this and how can it be avoided at future
<NancyG> There was an invasion of local
spores, of plantings that are native to the area, that affected those who were
not physically prepared for this. In most instances, the ingestion of a suitable
inhibitor will probably ease the symptoms the next time. It was a tree spore, by
<Mardel> What is meant by a suitable inhibitor?
<NancyG> Something like the syrup or
capsule named Benedryl. Or another like it.
<Mardel> Thanks, Nancy and Ms. :-)
<DaveGregg> MHeinze, you're next...
<MHeinze> I recently held an interview with a film & musical
producer and applied to be his personal assistant and provide child care to his
son. Do I have a chance of getting this job? Am I in the running?
<NancyG> Since the fragment Margaret
knows we do not predict, we can say this: There is affinity between herself and
the man R. This should have been apparent to the woman Margaret during the time
of the interview. The man R. has spoken to two others about this job, and is at
present wondering which person he thinks he will be most compatible with. Only
one of the other two is really in the running, as you say. So it comes down to a
1 in 2 chance. Actually there is a slight weight on the woman Margaret, so that
we suggest the probability is near 60 percent. It would not be amiss for her to
follow up with another reason for contacting the man R. Perhaps she can think of
a question that she did not ask about the duties. Perhaps she can offer an
insight that she has only just now thought of that will bring her uppermost in
the mind of the gentleman. These ploys are quite reasonable when one is dealing
<mheinze> I truly appreciate it , Nancy, thank you very much.
<DaveGregg> Shannon, you're next...
<ShannonB> This past week a pair of humpback whales swam 90 miles
from the Pacific, up the Sacramento River in California. Humans tried all manner
of tactics to get them to turn around and head back to sea. What did the whales
think of all the noise-making, the water hoses, and the crowds on the shore?
What did they think was going on?
<NancyG> The cetaceans who were thus
confused where only made more confused by the attempts to turn them via noise.
Cetaceans respond to vibrations much the way humans respond to sight. The
attempt to frighten them into turning around only confused them. The siting of
the river has confused whales before. There seems to be a tendency for them to
mistake it for a route north, which they were intent on, and since the mouth of
the river is still fairly salty, they do not realize that it is a mistaken
pathway until the water turns sweet. And then they are so disoriented that they
think that continuing on will solve their problem. You will notice that
eventually the mother/daughter team found their way out. They did this by pure
chance, not because they actually knew what to do.
Cetaceans, by the way, do not have very
good eyesight. The crowds on the shore appeared to them as multicolored blurs.
<ShannonB> Thank you.
<DaveGregg> Ivy, you're next...
<ivy> I recently graduated from college and this ending seems to
be precipitating other endings. Some things have happened in general and at work
that are making me think that my life "as is" is not so good a fit anymore. I
feel like I'm needing to be in a different place but not sure where. Can Michael
comment on this at large and also possibly suggest a job field which would be a
better fit, for a start?
<NancyG> The woman Ivy has worked her
way through the 4th monad to finish it about two years ago. The decision to
return to university as she did was part of the sorting she was doing toward
shaping the person she is most at home with. The particular decision about
employment, however, is another question. As these endings occur, the need to
reevaluate and regroup becomes paramount. We see a woman with talent in
organization and personal consensus building. The opportunities in this
direction are numerous. Perhaps her vision has been circumvented by a past
situation that no longer exists? In that event, let her open herself to the
possibility that it would work to relocate herself, either into a different
channel, doing this kind of work, or actually moving to a new locale.
<ivy> Does Michael have any suggestions for a new locale in particular which
would be compatible?
<NancyG> The woman Ivy might consider
the northwest area of this country. We do not believe she would be comfortable
in the southeastern states, and her need for community may be most readily
understood in the relatively newer environment of the northwestern states.
Medium sized cities in this region would seem to have enough scope for 'starting
<ivy> Thank you so very much!
<DaveGregg> Morningtree, you're next...
<Morningtree> My question is: Why is it so hard for me to
meet the full potentials of my current relationship? There is a big spiritual
connection there (?), but all the fears and ghosts from my past, that I thought
I had dealt with and that had made me grow a lot, seem to be back haunting me. I
find myself fighting the same insecurity and jealousy issues than before and
find my attitude towards sexuality unnecessarily complex. Why is that, and
especially: How to finally overcome it all and enjoy the great happiness I've
<NancyG> The woman Miia is at a point in
her life where she finds that she simply does not have enough experience with
life to allow for riding the waves of emotion. Jealousy is a product of
insecurity. Those who experience it are in actuality saying that they do not
believe that they are attractive enough, smart enough, to hold the attention of
one of the opposite sex.
Since fear is at the bottom of every negative thought/feeling, it is fear that
feeds jealousy and every other barrier to acceptance and agape. The need to
learn, to understand, one's relationship to the opposite sex is part of the
identity that is being formed in the 3rd internal monad. We wonder about the
usefulness of finding a person of sense and pragmatism to discuss the 'attitude
toward sexuality' that seems to be hindering this current relationship. We
believe that this may go far to relieving the woman Miia of her concern and will
foster a better understanding within herself of what and how she wants to make
of her new friend.
<DaveGregg> Lila, you're next...
<Lila> I've been dating a guy for a few months and I think
that there's a lot of karma between us. His presence has activated my
subconscious to almost an overheated level and I've got a feeling of several
shared past lives, which are mostly very war and conquer-oriented. I think that
we've been fighting in the same side – however I can't help thinking that he's a
betrayer and he thinks that I'm some kind of a vulture. I'm afraid that I may
have killed him in a PL. If this is so, could Michaels tell more in detail what
has happened between us.
<NancyG> The woman Lila has shared
several lives with the man A. He has not always been a violent partner, but was
in three lifetimes. Within these lifetimes there was ample reason for the woman
Lila to wonder about the current relationship. Two of these lives were as
comrades in arms and during one of them there was a leaving for dead, considered
a betrayal by the one left behind. In return for that 'betrayal' the man
A., who was the one left, managed in the next life together to return the favor
in almost the same circumstances. Since the first leaving was not a conscious
'betrayal', the karma was created in the second leaving. That is the shadow felt
now by the woman Lila. She is owed the Karma and it is uppermost in her
consciousness. This relationship does not have much chance to develop in the
ordinary way of an agreement between a man and a woman. There need to repay the
karma is the reason for the 'heated' sense that the woman Lily feels. For the
man A. to repay, not the woman. We also do not see that there will present, in
this lifetime, an opportunity for these two to discharge the karma. It may be
just as well for them to let it go for the present.
<DaveGregg> BrettB, you're next...
<Lila> Thank you!
<BrettB> I think that I'm currently in the 4th internal monad and
feel very confused and unsettled most of the time. What I can do to help myself
complete this monad in the positive pole and manifest my true personality?
<NancyG> The work of the 4th internal
monad has just begun for the Fragment Brett. This is the basis for the sense of
confusion and unsettled feeling that permeates this life. Confusion implies that
there is something going on, a turmoil of thought and feelings. That is all to
the good. By examining the torrents of questions that are swamping the
personality, the shape of the SELF will ultimately be made.
One of the ways in which a fragment can
come through the 4th internal monad is to sort out the questions that are
swirling around inside. What do I believe? What do I like about myself? What do
I not like about myself? What is it about my life that seems out of kilter? What
am I doing because I think I OUGHT to? These are only a beginning, but they are
that. When these answers are made with perception and clarity, the fog of
turmoil and confusion will lift and the true person will emerge. Life many
births, however, for some these pangs are extremely distressing and only the
deliberate attention to working through them will bring the fragment through
successfully. That is the main thing that the fragment Brett can do at this
time: Make a deliberate attempt to acknowledge who and what the final person
<BrettB> Thank you very much! My new job is likely to change, then it seems.
<DaveGregg> Dikajo, you're next...
<dikajo> I am perceiving a lot of obstacles in my professional
career and a lot has to do with procrastination. I wonder whether Michael can
shed some light for my understanding of what is going on.
<NancyG> The fragment Dikajo has
answered his own question when he pinpoints procrastination as the culprit
regarding obstacles in his working world. There are a number of solutions to
changing the job that is proving to be unrewarding. These solutions require a
certain effort, however. The alternative to procrastination is action, as the
fragment Dikajo well knows. This is not a natural element for this fragment, so
the result is inertia.
We suggest that one way to arrive at a plan is to make one. Perhaps sitting down
with pencil and paper and making plus and minus columns will be a beginning.
Questions will begin to form: What is there about my work that I like? What is
there that I would like to change? How do I like to work? Am I able to shape
that need in my present situation? If not, what are the steps I will need to
take to change the situation? Finally, the real question will be: Do I really
want to change anything and if I do, am I equal to making the effort that change
<dikajo> Thank you very much.
<DaveGregg> Littlestar, you're next...
<littlestar> Can you tell me if my mother has contacted my
landlord and, most importantly, how I can achieve a peaceful renegotiation with
my parents to stay where I am and find a different situation/purchase instead of
the apartment they bought without losing more ground with them, more assets and
life opportunities. Do I have any opportunities coming and can i still reach any
of essence's original goals?
<NancyG> The negotiations with the woman
Linda's landlord have been less than positive with little achieved on either
side. As for the fragment Linda's relationship with her parents regarding a
domicile, there is a great deal at stake here for both parents and child. From
the perspective of the parents the investment solved two problems: a place for
the woman Linda to live and a financial security for the future. For the
fragment Linda, allowing the dependency that such a situation cannot help but
emphasize, retards the 'standing on one's own two feet' that is fostered in this
culture. It may not be possible to bring both sides out of this feeling that
they each have successfully navigated the shoals and brought the ship to port.
Attempts to talk things through should be made, and proof that there is an
alternative to the present solution would probably help to shift the onus from
all or nothing, the useless stand that seems to be the principle rock at the
moment. Such an alternative will have to be constructed together by all parties
or it will not be successful.
<littlestar> Can you comment on the karma this created/s? Whether one feels
jerked around for too long? Whether or not the "gift that keeps on taking" is
<NancyG> As things stand, there is no
karma attached to this problem. Karma is not created by disagreement or deciding
to shuffle things around differently. Karma is the prevention of someone's
choice in a serious and profound way. This does not constitute either a serious
or a profound condition.
<littlestar> Thank you.
<DaveGregg> Cathryn-Luna, you're next...
<Cathryn_Luna> My husband Tim and I have both had difficult
working relationships with a woman named Marianna. Tim has walked away, but I
choose to continue working with her. What is her past or present life
relationship with Tim and with me? We would appreciate getting a better
understanding of these difficult relationships.
<NancyG> We see the three persons who
have attempted to create a relationship here as incarnations of three who have
done this before. In the lifetime in which these three fragments met as workers
in a metal fabricating shop, the woman Cathryn was in a supervisory position
toward the fragments Timothy and Marianna. This explains why the man Timothy can
'walk away' from the current situation. He was never as strongly involved in the
problem before. The problem involved the theft of small parts that could be
assembled into items other than the products manufactured by the shop employing
the three fragments. The woman Marianna took, over a period of time, enough to
cause the fragment Cathryn to look into the problem. Confronted with the
evidence, the woman Marianna acknowledged the theft and was turned over to the
authorities for sentencing. She served her time aboard a prison ship for two
years. There is the shadow of this life marring the ability of the woman
Marianne to work comfortably with the woman Cathryn. Although she does not
remember the circumstances, she does identify her misery as a prisoner aboard
the ship with her supervisor, who is now Cathryn.
We doubt that much can be done to
alleviate the distress that the woman Marianne feels in the presence of the
woman Cathryn. It will be the woman Cathryn's choice as to whether she will
maintain the connection or, like the fragment, Timothy, walk away. There is no
karma here. There was no karma involved in the original crime. It is a natural
obligation to identify and when necessary punish thievery. Perhaps it will take
a few more lives for the fragment who is now Marianne to relegate this incident
to the past where it belongs. Attempts by the fragment Cathryn to bridge this
gap could be considered philanthropic karma.
<Cathryn_Luna> Can you give me a reference to approximate time and place?
<NancyG> We see this as a part of the
industrialization of the middle 19th C Germany.
<Cathryn_Luna> Thank you, Michael and Nancy!
<DaveGregg> JohnM, you're next...
<John_M> I have been told about a previous life, lived in
Germany near the turn of the 15th and 16th Centuries, where I was a bishop, and
through my intolerance I forged a great number of karmic ribbons, which took me
until the life directly before this one to burn. Can you tell me about this last
<NancyG> The fragment John was
considered a shepherd, not of sheep, but of men. He was a bishop of the Roman
church in his last life, a position which allowed him to burn many ribbons and
to create much good, also. This fragment returned to the place where the karma
was created, to the southern part of Germany known now as Bavaria, to burn his
<John_M> Thank you Michael and Nancy!
<DaveGregg> IChing, you're next...
<ICHING1> Any suggestions to increase income as I'm tired of the
struggles financially and healthwise (Chronic Fatigue Syndrome since 1983).
<NancyG> The woman C. has
chosen to walk this path of difficult health joined with financial insecurity.
The physical part has made employment very difficult for her and we sympathize.
It might be possible for her to augment her income by exploring what she might
be able to do from her home. There is a growing trend for people to make money
without leaving the house. There are several places on the internet which
describe these jobs and for someone who finds it difficult to travel or to do
any work which requires exertion this may be a possibility.
<ICHING1> I've been doing Life and Relationship Coaching on the phone from home
for 10 yrs, and it's still difficult to market with $$s to spare. Making every
effort to join with others in marketing meant with no $$s to spare...
<NancyG> We are not aware of the number
that have turned this choice into enough income to warrant giving up full-time
employment outside of the home, but there are a number who have. Beginning small
and working things through may allow the fragment this relief from an otherwise
<ICHING1> Do you see any success with a book?
<NancyG> We suggest that it might be
well to explore something other than the helping mode for the money that this
fragment is looking for.
<DaveGregg> JaneM, you're next...
<janieM> What is my connection w/ Jack H.? When I met him, I felt
an instant connection.
<NancyG> We address the fragment Jane:
The connection that you feel toward the man Jack is mostly one of body type.
Your overleaves are also compatible. There is no past life connection, and no
agreement other than the one that you are forging at this time. Remember what we
said earlier, that not every connection is the result of an agreement. The new
links that you forge with relationships as they occur may constitute a past life
in the future. Isn't that a pleasant thought! In a future lifetime you may have
the feeling that you two have met before and you will be right! (smile) Go in
<janieM> Thank you.
<NancyG> The work of this
evening has been to sort out as much as possible the bumpy relationships that
follow on the existence of living as spiritual beings on a human path. Each of
you believes that your difficulties are unique and so they are, for each of you.
Within the framework of what it is to be human, however, it is always a matter
of compatibility or incompatibility. Whether it is a partnership, or a mating,
or an employment, the matrix is the same: the need for connecting. We began by
reminding you that you have come here to connect to one another this night.
Remember also, that you connect all down the line with hundreds of fragments
every day. When you shop, when you work, when you attend any kind of meeting or
group activity, when you play, when you simply walk down the street you are
connecting. Take the time to make each connection worth while. Move as often as
possible into the positive pole of your role and leave behind you in each of
these endeavors the fragrance of a fragment on the path to agape.
<NancyG> Go in peace.
<Kathryn41> Thank you Michael. Thank you Nancy.
<DaveGregg> Thank you, Nancy & Michael. Great job. :)
<GeraldineB> Thank you, Nancy :)
<John_M> Thanks Michael for your wisdom, and Nancy, for your hard work in a long
<janieM> Thank you Michael and Nancy.
<laughingboi> Thank you...it was a long session tonight...thanks for the effort.
<ivy> Thank you Nancy and Michael!
<littlestar> Michael, Nancy, Dave - thank you all!
<Diane_H> Thank you Nancy and Michael!
<BrettB> Thank you Dave, Nancy, and Michael for this work!
<NancyG> You are all so good to stick it out to the end. Still nearly 75 percent
of those starting!
<laughingboi> Does it help with getting the info that the folks stay?
<Jyoti_Shah> Nancy great channelling today about relationships
<DaveGregg> Yes, a great group here.
<John_M> I find that most of the questions have at least some pertinence for
everyone, on reflection.
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