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Michael, are we ready?
<Nancy> MICHAEL: We are here to
greet you all. In the circle of energy that you are creating there is only
one intention, that you are here and we are here. This is the way energy
works. To be connected is to partake of the vitality of everyone as you
connect with us.
instance of the life of the physical plane there is an expenditure of energy.
It may be obvious or it may be subtle. But be assured it is there. The
polarity of energy production requires a positive and a negative charge. The
negative charge is the absence of obvious activity, somewhat like the black hole
of astronomy that you know of. It is there and it is very powerful, but until
you had the equipment to discern it, it did not appear to exist. The positive
pole is intention.
these two poles is energy created. We enter into your field, you might say, and
we contribute our existence which is pure energy to the force that you are part
Applying yourselves to the study of the teachings as you are doing tonight also
creates energy. In a way, every effort, physical or mental or spiritual, is
both the result and the initiation of energy. Now we suggest that you release
yourselves into this powerhouse, the force field to borrow a phrase, that you
are making at this moment.
small part of the universe we connect with you in your small part of the
universe and together we expand until we fill this space with our knowing
together. What is the outcome of such an expansion? It can be a firmer, clearer
understanding of the place you hold in the universe. Your universe, be it
family, community, planet.
boundaries you spend your lives and with every willingness we can muster, we
offer support and information to make your place as efficacious for you as you
have chosen it to be.
We are teachers. You have
said that you are students of our teachings. This bond is another expression of
the creative energy that you are part of. We thank you for being our students.
Teachers need students, you know. We have chosen this planet and you as our
causal plane work. You are doing your part by being here tonight.
<Nancy> Now we will take questions.
<DaveGregg> Colleen, you have the first question ... you may go ahead.
Q & A
Michael, I love you as I do everyone in our Group who is here tonight and who
could not make it. I had a marvelous idea this evening. Both while cleaning
and while swimming under the stars. I don't feel I can reveal it right now ...
although you certainly know of its impact. Can I go forward, BIG TIME??? This
idea has to do with making a movie that will instill hope and love.
<Nancy> The medium of film is a very important tool for the dissemination of
ideas. Whenever there is a possibility of using such a tool in the work of the
teachings, it merits consideration. Whether there will be enough interest,
financial backing, etc., is another question altogether. Of course, you may
choose to go forward with this idea. We cannot predict that it will be
successful, we are not in the fortune telling business. However, we suggest
that there is certainly a 'hook' that you are thinking of that may well 'sell'
this idea to those who can make it happen. You may choose to pursue this
concept, you may choose not to. Remember, everything is within your power, is a
matter of choice.
<colleen> Yes. of course. Thank you.
<DaveGregg> Just a reminder, folks. This is a Back to Basics night. The
questions should be about the teachings, if possible.
Mardel, you're next.
a fragment is manifesting at a lower soul age than essence, is that a constant
until the fragment moves up the levels? Or is there variation, especially
<Nancy> The concept of manifested soul
age as opposed to actual soul age is an easy one to understand if one keeps in
mind that not all the lessons that are scheduled for a lifetime will be learned
in sequence. It may be that at some point a mature soul will need to experience
more of the 'can do' environment of the younger soul level, an experience that
was not completely covered when the mature soul was actually a young soul.
the manifested soul age is not an across the board condition. A late mature
soul may be manifesting actual soul age in relationships, earlier mature soul
age in organization of the life plan, and young in career concerns.
manifested age has been visited and the lessons acquired and made a part of
Essence, that age/level is released and the fragment does not stay at that level
for any other reason. Therefore, if we understand the question, there is no
'constant' in this activity. There is rather a dipping back in and then out as
ground that was missed is covered to the satisfaction of Essence and the
fragment, who are allied in their concern that nothing be missed.
Thank you, Nancy and Ms. :-)
<DaveGregg> Slightly sleepy Elo-Maria, you're next.
My question is kind of funny maybe, but there is one vague thing about the
teachings I can't figure out fully. It's about choosing roles at the beginning
of a new grand-cycle. Everything is choice, but there are also certain
percentages of each role in the Universe. I see a contradiction here, because
how can it be choice, if there are percentages? What if I decide that I want to
be a King in my new cycle, but then it appears, that I can't, because all 2% of
Kings are already taken but there are still plenty of Warrior and Server roles
available? I'm sure it's not like this, but I'd still like to hear some deeper
<Nancy> The choice of role
at the beginning of a cycle of lives is made with all the information available
to Essence that is necessary for making the choices, both role and overleaves.
Whether a fragment has already experienced a particular role, whether this
choice will facilitate the learning that is part of the plan, whether there is a
place for such a role as you so described it, all of these are considerations.
Remember, there is no Maya in the process. The best choice is part of the
choice. You might be surprised to know that the king role is not eagerly sought
by fragments making their choices. In the uncluttered realm in which this
choice is made it looms as relatively undesirable. But we realize you were
simply making a suggested example, and we repeat, there is an understanding
between the fragment and Essence that precludes disappointment and competition.
These elements are manifestations of the physical plane and have no parallels
outside of it.
<Elo-Maria> Thank you!
<DaveGregg> Vanessa, you're next.
can a person tell when they've completed the 4th internal monad?
The fourth internal monad allows for a fragment to assess the state of their
human personality. How am I doing? Am I myself? Or am I merely repeating what
family and education and social expectations have made of me? Within the
fragment there is a reality that becomes manifest when the fourth internal monad
is completed. Extraneous material that no longer fits will be sloughed off,
much as one casts off outgrown garments. The 'fitting' is a result of seriously
examining the questions above, as well as others, in determining whether the
clothes being worn are appropriate, are comfortable, are useful.
is no longer a sense of wondering if things are 'right', then that is a very
good sign that the monad has been completed. If there has not been even the
beginning of these questionings, then no matter what the age of the fragment,
the monad is not complete, indeed may never have been begun.
that for those in the waking sleep, it may be necessary for such fragments to
take up in the next life the questions about oneself and the discovery of the
answers before the monad is experienced as completed. You will notice that this,
also, like manifested age, is not a simple trajectory. In the next life, for
those who cannot/will not/choose not to examine their lives in the fourth monad
in the current one, they will still experience and may finish the first three
again before approaching the fourth.
those who are walking the path, a sense of release, of settling in, of
appreciation for oneself will signal the end of the monad.
<DaveGregg> Just a reminder, folks. Please don't talk during the session unless
you're called on. We're trying to avoid unnecessary distractions for the
channel. Thanks. :-)
Rhua, you're next.
<Rhua> I had
the same question as Vanessa! Um ... How many Michael students are there
currently worldwide and where is the largest geographical concentration of them?
Real name Lori.
Our student Lori is part of the largest concentration of our students in that
she is a resident of this country. The number of students fluctuates from time
to time, because there is always some number who hear the message and for a time
follow the teachings and then abandon them. We would say, however, that this
abandonment may be temporary, however. Many who think to themselves that this
is all so much hot air come back eventually because they reconsider their place
in the universe.
At this time, we would say
that there are approximately 300,000 followers of the teachings world wide,
nearly one third of them in your country. (Nancy: Michael amended that to ‘in
<Rhua> thank you Nancy and M!
<Foz, you’re next.
you comment on the probable timelines for Earth changes, both economic &
geological? Current consensus is economic recession starting later this year,
and worsening into worldwide depression in subsequent years. Similarly, the
environmental Earth changes that have already begun quite noticeably will
continue to worsen, with the so-called 'cataclysms' starting in 2009? Any truth
to this or do you see things progressing differently?
<Nancy> Although this is not part of our
'basic teachings, we will comment briefly on the questions that the fragment Dan
As we have said before, the
planet Earth is not slated for either exploding or imploding in the future that
you can see before you. There are changes in the earth that are part of its own
cycle, as well as ones that have been appliquéd onto it by the numbers of people
now populating the earth.
Economic recessions come and go, climate changes do also. The last great
climate change occurred in your 15th century when much of the northern
hemisphere of this planet experienced unusual seasons of great cold. Your
history books refer to it as the Little Ice Age.
We do not see that any such change in
temperature is a part of your future. There is, however, the very real
possibility that coastal regions all over the planet will find that they are
being reshaped. Since these areas include a number of very large metropolitan
areas with their vast populations, it may be incumbent on those living there to
re-think their residence and to take appropriate steps toward moving to higher
ground. No amount of diking, walling, sea gating, will hold back the oceans.
What is the time table for this possibility? Over the next 50 years or so.
As for economic collapse,
there is a strong probability that the whole financial structure of the planet
will undergo reorganization. This will result in hardship for many, especially
those with much to lose. For those who are presently existing in a marginal
financial world anyway, there will be less trauma. We offer this as a likely,
that is to say, a probable situation. The planning for a financial
reconstruction of the planet's monetary foundation is already being addressed.
One of the signs of the beginning of this is the reorganization of the monies of
the countries of the European continent. There will be other, probably
different, decisions over the next 10 to 20 years which will result in a greater
easing of restrictions on international trade and the prosperity that will
The shadow of capitalism will continue to cover many emerging markets, simply
because there is little understanding of alternatives, but here and there
alternatives are already in place and are working. We have said in the past and
we say again, there is very little likelihood that there will be a total
collapse of civilization as you know it.
<Foz> Thank you
<DaveGregg> Old Soul Scholar, you're next.
<old_soul_scholar> (Rick) I believe you have stated in the past that during the
next appearance of the Infinite Soul the logos must this time be imparted
"intact". Can you please explain what you mean by the term "intact" and how
this dissemination of information will differ from the past?
<Nancy> When the last appearance of the
Infinite Soul was manifested on this planet there was a need to shape ITSELF to
the limitations and conditions of the time. Now, when the Infinite Soul chooses
to bring to bear the Logos, there is a very different state in which IT will
appear. Take, for example, the problems of communication in the days of the man
Jesus. He SPOKE to everyone who was within his range, that range limited by the
extent of his voice. He did not write anything down, either. So there was no
possibility of the Infinite Soul reaching more than the several hundred people
who actually heard his voice.
And this only in the 30 days of so following the apparent death of the man
the Logos that the Infinite Soul brought to bear had to be curtailed, if you
will, to fit the terms of the situation. This meant a limited exposure, to a
limited audience. It was enough, however, to accomplish what was intended. The
mere fact that the Infinite Soul became incarnate was sufficient for the
That will be true, also,
of the next manifestation of the Infinite Soul. But this time all the wonders
of communication and transportation technology will be at the fingertips of the
Infinite Soul. We carefully avoid using either of the only two pronouns you
have available to us because the Infinite Soul is neither male nor female, but
will choose which gender IT will occupy, and there is a very real possibility
that this next time it will be both. We can only say that we have no more
information on the exact choices that the Infinite Soul will make than you do.
What we can say is that this time there will be a much broader expression of the
Logos than was possible two thousand years ago. If you wish to express that as
being more 'intact', that is as good a description as any we can think of.
<DaveGregg> Ed, you're next.
<Ed`> if the
original group in the early 70s had focused less on overleaves, is there some
other part(s) of the MT that might have been released then, changing everything
<Nancy> The group we first spoke to in
the area of California had to be brought along in the teachings as one would a
group of people who lack exposure to any new way of thinking. It took many
sessions to bring them even to a partial understanding of the concept of
reincarnation as we understand it.
That is, was there anything you would have liked to get into but they didn't
We expected this and we made allowances for the effort it took for them to grasp
many of the concepts that you now take very much in stride. Knowing that there
would be this chasm to cross, we left many things unsaid that we expected to
offer at a later date. Which we are doing now.
Would anything have changed, perceptively, if we had opened the sluice gates on
this small group of fragments? One change might have been a complete shutdown
of their ability to comprehend and so an aborting of their agreement with us! We
always measure the receptivity of our students and since we have not the same
outlook on time as do you, we are not dismayed that it may take more than one
generation, in fact it may take several, to complete our work.
choices that are made are made on all sides. We made/make choices, those you
call the original group made choices, and you are now making choices. We do not
see this as anything to be concerned about. We do see it as the unfolding of
events as these choices dictate. There will be a steady stream of advanced
material coming into the community of our students. We have alerted several
channels of this and have obtained their agreement to receive these teachings.
Over the next decade or so there will be additional material added to the basics
that you are all aware of.
They do not, will not,
refute what has gone before. Truth is truth and does not alter to time. But
the expression of truth does alter somewhat to circumstances. Now that the
groundwork has been laid for them, we will build upon the foundation with more
truths that can be applied to your world.
<Ed`> will you, Nancy, be getting the new info?
<Nancy> I have been asked if I would be willing to receive it, yes. And I have
agreed to do so. It will come when it comes. Btw, as they said, I won't be the
only channel posting new material. A number of us are part of this agreement.
LP1, you're next.
Michael, can you tell us how to work better with discarnate essence twins?
<Nancy> The energy of a discarnate
Essence Twin is much more available to the incarnate fragment than it would be
if the Essence Twin were also incarnate. This is easily understood when you
consider that two fragments who are twinned and who are leading separate lives,
possibly in different parts of the world, possibly a generation or more apart,
would have little time and possibly no way to connect.
of the twins discarnate, however, there is no such barrier. The discarnate twin
can put all, or most all, of its attention on the incarnate twin and can often
make quite a difference in that life. Connecting with a discarnate Essence Twin
is much like connecting with Essence. It takes attention and intention, the
elements of meditation.
approaches for cooperation between these two include dream state and the
meditative state. These are closely allied and both usually can be learned. To
contact your discarnate Essence Twin in your sleeping time, center your thoughts
on what you want to do, make the intention to be available during sleep, make an
appointment, if you will, to meet on the astral, and go to sleep.
You may or
may not remember what transpired when you wake, but be assured that you will
have connected. If there is something that you wish to discuss with your twin,
formulate the idea as you make the intention. Your twin is not infallible and
has no more control over people and events than you do, but what your twin does
have is an uncluttered view of things, being disassociated from the physical
plane and so less obstructed by Maya; less, not totally unobstructed, but less
than are you.
approach may be through meditation. If you are performing meditation, include
in it your desire to communicate with your twin. Again, you may outline what
you would like to discuss and ask that your twin meet you in meditation. This
approach is somewhat harder for some fragments, especially if you are not in the
habit of meditation.
For those who are, this can be a link to the discarnate twin.
your twin is the same role as you are, the energy expressed may seem to be
doubled. If your twin is a different role, you may feel a distinct tendency
toward the qualities of that role, qualities which may be foreign to your own.
Tibtyc, you're next.
Ladislaus: Good evening everybody. Nancy: My question to Michael: The concepts
behind the words "Truth, Love, Energy" must have been around for a long time. Do
they correspond to "Brahma, Vishnu, Shiva" and the 3 Gunas? Which is which? And
what other names do we know them by?
The trilogy Truth, Love, and Energy has indeed been a part of the consciousness
of the human race from its beginning. Indeed, we would say that it is a part of
the universe. All creation recognizes the power of these forces. They do not
correspond directly with the trinity Brahma, Vishnu, Shiva, however. These are
manifestations of Being that have been transmuted to becoming attachments to
human understanding of divine principles. Ordinarily these translate to
Creator, Sustainer, Destroyer, as you know.
In the beginning of their
existence as forces to be understood, you could have said that the
correspondence was one for one. Over millennia, however, the understanding of
this correspondence has been so distorted that it no longer can be treated as
actual. Truth is always creating, Love is always sustaining, Energy is always
changing. So, yes, there was once a one to one correspondence when the concepts
were first understood by those who named them. Not so now.
As for the
gunas, they are not so easily
brought into the picture. They are energies, that is true, but their
application is more of a specific force and not so much a universal one. The
gunas represent the diluting
of the power of the universe down to manageable dimensions. Their application
has therefore been limited. In this respect they do not correspond to the two
trinities mentioned above.
<Tibtyc> Thank you.
That was the last question, Nancy.
Then let us close with these words: There has been a theme of energy throughout
tonight's teaching. First, this energy comes/is created when you all gather
together. Then there is the energy of the questions themselves. Oh, yes, asking
questions creates energy! And so does answering them, and finally, so does
receiving the answers and understanding them. All of this created energy goes
into the whole that is the many universes of the Tao. This is your contribution
to the learning you are doing tonight, to the very bits that go to making up the
continual learning of the Tao. Go in Peace.
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