<Barb_Lundeen> Shepherd channeled me as having 14 cycles but no mention of how
many past lives - I would be interested in knowing that and a bit about my
most interesting one - perhaps Beethoven?? Thanks
<Nancy> Within this current cycle you have
lived 310 past lives. The most useful to you was one of the lives in the 11th cycle,
vibrations of which can still be felt. Ordinarily there is little carry over
from one cycle to another, and this is most unusual. Within this life there
were lessons of waiting and watching. This may not sound very interesting, but
many fragments find waiting increasingly difficult as the cycles go on. You
might think the opposite, but this is the case. Waiting was done with several
mates, with a series of employments, and with self-karma. Even now you have
profited from the lessons you experienced in the work of waiting, holding on,
saving the word of anger, minding your time until the right moment.
<Barb_Lundeen> thank you - it echoes strongly with me
<DaveGregg> Lindis, you are next...
<Lindisfarne> What is the true
birthplace of the man known to us as Jesus, and how far off is history in
terms of accuracy as to his year of birth?
<Nancy> The birthplace of the man Jesus was in a
village that no longer exists. In order to maintain the fiction of the
prophecies, Bethlehem was promoted, with its tale of inns and shepherds. The
man Jesus was born in the reign of Augustus in what is now known as the year 4
BC. It has been said that the year 6 BC is the date, but this is off by two
years. We also say that there is no truth to the story of a midwinter birth.
It was an ordinary spring night. No angels, no kings, no danger.
<Lindisfarne> Thank you.
<DaveGregg> Leslie, you are next...
<Leslie> I'd like to know the role
and soul age of a man named Burr Tillstrom who was a puppeteer in the 20th
century, and whatever else you may want to tell me
<Nancy> This fragment was a Mature Artisan. His
talent for providing a symbol of life through the wooden dolls was immense. In
his work with the miniature theater of puppets, he expressed life and love for
all those who attended his productions. He was, however, somewhat melancholy
in his own mind and heart. It was as if he found through his dolls the
cheerfulness he himself was yearning for. He offered his gift freely and in
every way it contributed to his life's work: Promoting joy.
<Leslie> Thank you
<DaveGregg> Maria, you are next...
<maria> Why is the situation with
my current employers so intense? Is there some agreements, karma or past life
experiences involved with either one of them, or something else I would need
to know about our relationship?
<Nancy> The woman Maria has an agreement with the
current employment situation. There is a matter of working within this
agreement. When the agreement was made it was supposed that it would work to
the advantage of everyone to have a group dynamic. This is proving less than
ideal, is it not? The intensity of which you speak is a result of this hurdle
that none of you anticipated. This can happen when agreements such as this are
made before the actual fact of the physical plane becomes the reality. There
are numerous solutions, of course. No agreement is binding. However, we
suggest always that a fragment stand back and assess the circumstances as
dispassionately as possible before making any irrevocable decisions regarding
<Nancy> Are you thinking of aborting this agreement,
quitting this job? That is certainly your choice.
<maria> At the moment O am. Would it be wise to wait, then?
<Nancy> If, however, you choose to continue with it,
ask yourself wherein does the tension lie? Perhaps in this query there will
come a better understanding of the tension and always understanding can lead
to a greater ability to deal with it.
<maria> Is the agreement between all three of us?
<Nancy> Yes, all three of you made this agreement,
although one of the others has less interest in making it work than you and
the other have.
<maria> Thank you very, very much!
<DaveGregg> Mer, you are next...
<mer> I have been disabled for 3
years, not able to work, homeless for 2 years after leaving an abusive
relationship. I have been keeping a positive attitude for the most part and I
am grateful to the people who have helped menot to be in the street during
this time. Is there some input you can give me to help me understand the why
of this turn of events from this life and past lives, what I'm trying to learn
and can I heal my feet and be independent and useful again, perhaps thru my
<Nancy> To you, Meredith, we say that this disabling
of your physical life is part of the self-karma that you have chosen to learn
about dependence and receiving. It is in this inability to fend for yourself
that you are faced with the center of your being, the need for learning how to
accept from others, and how to accept yourself for what you are, not what you
were or want to think of yourself as. This is the why. The further concern
about whether your feet will be healed . . . there is only about a 50/50
chance that this will occur in a complete recovery.
consider that your work as an artist can be accomplished whether you have the
full use of your two feet or do not, you may begin to see why you have chosen
to exhibit this ability in this lifetime. With physical disability, it would
be quite a different story if your choice had required greater mobility. Your
work as an artist, however, can be done even sitting down. In this we see a
kind of independence.
<mer> The first part of my life, I am 60, was as a dancer. I discovered the
painting when I could not walk. It is a gift, to be sure, but the physical
limitations have put a damper on having a home, one place to land...
<Nancy> Is there a question?
<mer> Yes. How can I maneuver myself to a point where that can happen?
<Nancy> We repeat, the choices you are making have to
do with the lessons of dependence. Over the next period of time you may find
that you do not have the same opportunity for a settled 'home' as you once had
or now want. Maneuvering yourself, as you say, can only be done to the extent
that you accept the choice and accept the manner in which this choice is
playing itself out in your life.
<mer> Thank you so much.
<DaveGregg> Suz, you are next...
<Suz> There is a gathering of sorts
coming up in GA with some special people.
<Suz> I would like to hear from Michael about this most positive event, the
extra's of it....
<Nancy> Are you finished, Suzanne?
<Suz> that's not really a question as it is a asking for comments...
<Nancy> Whenever there are students together there is
an energy that lifts the event out of the mundane and puts it into the realm
of good work. There will always be the truth that the whole is greater than
the sum of its parts. This applies to all such events. We see the probability
that there will be a sharing of agape here, and also the very real chance that
those of you who attend will find more serious work afoot than you now
suspect. We do not predict, we only offer the odds.
<Nancy> (Michael is smiling)
<Suz> I like the odds of this one, a very good feeling one
<Nancy> This feeling is worth a lot, Suzanne.
<Nancy> Let it accompany you to the gathering.
<Suz> I will
<DaveGregg> Orca, you are next...
<orca> I would appreciate your
comments on my interest in becoming an energy med practitioner. I don't
understand why I am pulled in such a direction or where it is taking me. I
worry that it is more desire than enough ability to be successful at this.
<Nancy> May we please have a name?
<Nancy> For the woman Eleda, we see a yearning to 'do
good'. The expression of this appears to be applied to the medical profession
as an energy worker. If you have doubts about this way of fulfilling your
desire, we suggest that you take some time to assess your other opportunities.
If the desire, however, is truly toward the medical aspect, then ask yourself
if you are hesitant because it is a new thought, or if it is because you have
in truth little preparation for it. Preparation is learned. The pull or
tendency is inherent. When you can answer this question, you will have more
confidence in your choice.
<orca> thank you
<cheryl> A general question: When
and on what basis does the fragment choose potential exit points for the
<Nancy> The length of life is chosen before the
fragment incarnates each time. There is a general rule that applies to most of
the roles. The exit for fragments is usually decided within one or two years
on either side of a chosen length of years. For instance, if a fragment plans
a life of 74 years, then exit will usually happen within a year on either side
of this figure. There is therefore a window of approximately three years,
barring an accident or other unexpected situation. For instances, if a
fragment is seriously injured to the extent that life becomes a problem and
has reached the age of 69, even if the window is 73 to 75 the fragment may
decide to cut short the life by those few years. The one exception is the role
of Artisan. Artisans have a wider window in the planning for the life exit.
Instead of a three year span, the Artisan often thinks of a five year span. It
is part of the creativity of the role to resist being held to a minimum.
<cheryl> thank you...no follow up
<DaveGregg> Vanessa, you are next...
<vanessa> What is my purpose in
this life, and what talents or special abilities do I have that can help me to
realize this purpose?
<Nancy> We repeat what we always say when asked for
one's life purpose: Every fragment is alive on the physical plane for the
purpose of learning the lessons of the plane. The only purpose to life is the
living of it. Now, are there agreements, karmas, intentions that make one form
of employment, mating, usefulness more attractive than another? Yes, of
course. In this instance we suggest that your interest in the environment is a
strong one in you and your ability to organize and persuade may prove to be
<Nancy> Be wary, however, of assuming that this is
the only 'purpose' for your life. The talents and abilities that each of you
have can be turned to many different purposes. There is no box with a label
that says 'Vanessa' on it and if you do not take it up you have somehow failed
in your purpose. Indeed, NO. NO. NO. Too often there is the understanding that
there is a magic word that describes one's reason for existence. Nothing could
be farther from the truth. Try the thing that lies nearest you. If that does
not work, try something else. The only thing that you are here for is to learn
how to deal with the physical plane. That can be done in millions of ways.
<vanessa> What does my concern about the environment have to do with Reiki and
Yoga and animals? How do these fit together
<Nancy> It may not have anything directly to do with
these subjects. For many fragments these are side issues, not main concerns.
If you prefer to make one or all of these endeavors your raison d'etre, then
you have found your purpose, have you not? Instead of trying to fit them
together, perhaps you may choose to enjoy your interest in each separately.
<vanessa> But doesn't one's success lie on the path closest to that chosen by
<Nancy> Essence is seldom concerned with what parts
of human life you wish to explore. Essence is concerned with the evolution of
your path toward agape. In this there can be no 'right' or 'wrong' choice.
<vanessa> A general theme? Like teaching, or healing, etc
<Nancy> When you choose, Vanessa, you have taken the
path that you see as part of your evolution. It is no more complicated than
that. All choices are valid. All choices are the responsibility of the
chooser. If you are uncertain about which of the many life paths you might
like, you might decide to explore a few to develop a better understanding of
what is required in the work of each.
<DaveGregg> Susan, you are next...
<aeoneSusanSc> My heart seems to be
closed, my essence seems bored, I've worked hard to be able to soon be free
enough to enter a stage of expression, so, my essence must have some idea of
how to pull it's favorite past time from a past life into this life. What was
so great about these past lives that it doesn't seem particular fond of this
one, or, is it that my "life task" hasn't yet begun, and I'm in a phase of
preparation ? What is the real task at hand ? I don't feel like the closed
heart, is a fear of failing, maybe with the wrong person, and maybe not? Why
so many maybes? Is this the old soul storm before the calm <lol>
<Nancy> The fragment Susan would like to stand aside
and forever contemplate the possibilities, Yes? This is always safer than
deciding and then finding that there is more to the decision than at first
appeared. Living life in this moment is of more value than all the past lives
that you have experienced. The lessons learned from past lives is the only
part of them that comes forward in a useful way for fragments. Turning to the
past to provide interest for the present is futile.
One of your poets said: Let the dead past bury its dead.
When you put
your mind and heart on the work of the present, those lessons that are a part
of this life have a chance of being learned. When you yearn after the glories
and tragedies of the past, you forget the boredom and the questioning and the
failures that these lives experienced also. The task of every fragment is to
use the time of each life in each lifetime. In no other way will the evolution
of the soul be accomplished.
<aeoneSusanSc> So, the trick is to explore the now ... in as many ways as
<Nancy> That is the trick, Susan. You have now the
handle you requested.
<aeoneSusanSc> That allow the heart to open and connect to all that is.
<aeoneSusanSc> Thank you...that is a good message for me; and for all...many
The heart, as you say, is the Self that knows Essence.
<DaveGregg> Diane, you are next...
<diane> Could Michael describe
previous past lives we've spent together that are significant to this one?
<Nancy> We see these two fragments as two brothers,
working side by side in a glass blowing factory during the late 18th C. The
reason this lifetime was significant to both is the closeness that was enjoyed
by the two brothers. Although there was nearly six years difference in their
ages, they developed an almost twin-like understanding between them. Their
devotion to each other was noticed by all who knew them. When one was fatally
injured in an explosion of the furnace, the other follow him in death by only
a few months, so connected were they.
<DaveGregg> Kerry P, you're next...
<kerryp> In a prior session my life
task was described as "instilling confidence in children." Can you elaborate
on this further?
<Nancy> Instilling confidence in children can be done
with one's own, with the children of one's family, with acquaintances, with
children met in the park, or on a bus. Instilling confidence means bolstering
the talents, efforts, intentions of these children. A word, a gesture, a smile
may be all that is needed.
<Nancy> As a life task you may not even work with
children in order to fulfill this undertaking. In fact, it might be difficult
if your other interests do not include working directly with them. But that is
not necessary in the success of this work. An ongoing acceptances of your task
will only mean that when the opportunity presents itself you recognize it for
what it is and act accordingly. Not for you the discipline that must be
exercised. Nor the instruction that needs doing. You may be occupied in both
of these activities, but they are not your task, as such. Instilling
confidence may be a result of coaching, of tutoring, of holding after falling
from the porch, of pointing out strengths in the face of apparent failure.
These are ways of fulfilling this task.
<DaveGregg> Sam, you are next...
<sam_nemo> Among other things you
said tonight that life is about choosing and the responsibility of the
chooser. several times I was told I did not have agreements to obtain
what I would have consciously chosen and it seems I do not have agreements
that I would have chosen or I do not agree with what my essence has chosen so
how can I make new agreements or become more aligned with my essence.
<Nancy> The choices of a fragment in this life are
only somewhat different from those made before incarnating. They are just as
valid and carry the process of life's lessons forward just as effectively or
just as ineffectively. Not all agreements, remember, are acknowledged in the
fury of the physical plane. So the fact that you do not have an agreement to
do what you think you would have chosen to do is neither here not there.
<Nancy> What consciousness are we talking about? The
consciousness of the discarnate fragment on the astral? The consciousness of
the incarnate fragment whose grasp of the possibilities is less than perfect?
And how do you know that your choices are not in alignment with Essence? Have
<sam_nemo> I think I have asked on specific occasions.
<Nancy> And what answers have you gotten?
<sam_nemo> I did not have agreements to obtain certain jobs specifically that
was the answer given by guides.
<Nancy> Then possibly those jobs were not part of
your lessons for this plane. Agreements do not cover every aspect of a life.
You may wish to consult a career counselor for some extremely earth bound
guidance toward the kinds of jobs that you may be more fitted for than the
ones you have been unable to get. Remember also, that there are agreements
that can be made in life as you go along. Not all agreements have to be made
<Nancy> You may meet someone who is going to be a
completely new addition to your circle of comfortable fragments with whom you
like to partner with over lifetimes. You may make an agreement on the spot, so
to speak, and it is just as valid and as helpful as those that are made prior
to the life. Therefore, just because you did not come into this life with a
raft of agreements does not mean that you are left high and dry for the
duration of the life. Look about you, if you choose to, and see where there is
an opportunity to consolidate a new agreement in the here and now.
<sam_nemo> Thank you for your advice
<DaveGregg> Kathryn, you are next and last.
<Kathryn41> My artisan ET was
recently - last 4 or 5 years - reborn as a male. I am interested in
information where is now lives, and if I am aware of his new family. I feel we
have plans to meet later in his life and possibly connecting through my
granddaughter, Caitlyn. I would appreciate Michael's comments.
<Nancy> Kathryn, was there any more of this
information offered when you first were made aware of your ET's birth?
<Kathryn41> Just at the time that there was some sort of 'blockage' because I
was going through an uploading to essence and the channel couldn't access that
information at that time. I never did get more than that. I had felt that he
had already incarnated or was about to at the time and asked about that.
<Nancy> Thank you.
<Nancy> The boy is the second son of a family now living in New York state.
There is a plan to meet when the boy is about 20 years old. At the present
time the agreement between him and your granddaughter is to meet during their
later schooling years. It will probably be then that you will be united with
him yourself. We do not see any agreement to meet in the meantime.
<Kathryn41> thank you:-)
<DaveGregg> That's the last of the questions, Nancy.
<Nancy> Then let us listen to the
Michaels words now.
<Nancy> The theme of tonight has been choice. This is
nothing new with us, and we stress it over and over in our mission to you.
Choice is freedom to control your life in every way that you can. Along with
this freedom is responsibility for the choices you make. You cannot make a
'bad' choice. You may make a choice that makes your life somewhat less
comfortable, yes, even VERY UN comfortable. But that is how lessons are
You say to
your children that they will learn best by making mistakes. Perhaps you wish
to label the choices you make that seem to you to be less than desirable as
'mistakes'. That is your choice. (Smile) But remember this, every choice you
make has the mark of you on it. It is yours, no one else's. Only when you are
coerced into choosing against your desire, is there an element of shared
responsibility between you and the one forcing you. This is called karma. But
otherwise, those decisions you make that seem good to you are no better than
the ones that seem less 'good'. Whether you learn from them is up to you. We
suggest that having this understanding may ameliorate the repercussions of
what you perceive to be miserable choices. They are only miserable in the
light of the physical plane. In the light of the grander scheme of the
universe and from the perspective of Essence you would be surprised often how
much different they look.
We are not suggesting that you adopt a
Pollyanna/silver lining stance over losing a limb or a spouse. That would be
foolish and unjustified lack of discernment. We do suggest that putting some
distance between yourselves and the problems that have seemingly followed on
various choices will allow a better grasp of what the lessons are that these
choices have brought about. The physical plane is not all hardship, not at
all. But it is daily, is it not. Keep the three elements of agape with you
when you feel betrayed by your choices: compassion, hope, and generosity of
spirit and apply them to yourself.
Then you will know that all choices are valid and enlivening. Go in peace.
<Kathryn41> thank you Michael, Thank you Nancy
<DaveGregg> Thank you, Nancy and Michael. The room is now open. :-)
<cheryl> that was very beautiful and moving....thanks Nancy/Michael
<DaveGregg> Very nice closing comments. :-)
<Kathryn41> The whole evening felt very focused and 'clean' energy wise.
<Nancy> I could feel a very upbeat tone all during the closing.
<Barb_Lundeen> Thank you Nancy for letting us hear the words of the Michaels -
<LindaW> A lot to mull over. thanks Nancy and Michael.
<diane> Thanks Nancy, Michael, Dave and Kathryn...;-)
<Suz> mucho appreciation, dear ones
<DaveGregg> Our pleasure. :-)
<DaveGregg> These are always fun evenings.
<Ralf> Thank you it was great
<diane> Glad you made it Meredith!
<Nancy> The Michaels are gathered around me here and are with you
simultaneously! They are bowing every time someone says Thank you, Michael.
<Nancy> Who says there is no humor on the causal!