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March
13, 1974
Present: CC, MM,
BM, JH, BL, RC and SC, RH and AH and CH, NA,
SM (first time).
WE
ARE
HERE WITH YOU TONIGHT.
SM:
I
would like to know my soul Level,
Role and Goal.
THE
LADY,
S.M., IS A FIRST LEVEL OLD WARRIOR
IN ACCEPTANCE. THIS LADY IS
MOSTLY MARTIAL, SOME SATURN, IN THE
MOVING PART OF INTELLECTUAL
CENTER, A REALIST WITH MUCH
IMPATIENCE — WHICH GIVES HER FIDGETS
IN
THIS TYPE OF SITUATION.
MJ:
I
would like to ask the SRGA of a
friend, N, who is in a group I’m
in. She is a fragile, mid cycle
Mature soul in Rejection or else a
Baby soul in Submission,
Intellectual part of Emotional
Center. Do I
owe her something, or is it her SRGA
coming through?
THE
FRAGILITY
YOU SENSE COMES FROM THE CHIEF
FEATURE OF SELF-DESTRUCTION.
THIS IS A MID CYCLE MATURE ARTISAN
IN SUBMISSION, MOSTLY LUNAR, SOME
VENUSIAN. THE CENTERING IS VALID.
MJ:
I
would like more information on Chief
Feature and how it differs
from Goal. Self-destruction is more
subtle than Martyrdom.
SHE
[N.]
WILL ALLOW THIS (Self-destruction).
MANY [with this Chief
Feature] DRINK TO EXCESS. MANY TAKE
DRUGS, BUT MOST ARE MORE SUBTLE
AND MERELY FLAGELLATE THEMSELVES
WITH AN EMOTIONAL BULLWHIP. THIS IS
NATURAL TO THEM. ALL IS PAIN.
NOTHING IS PLEASURE. THERE ARE SO
MANY
NO’S IN THEIR LIVES THAT THEY ARE
ALMOST PARALYZED.
MJ:
How
does one distinguish between
Self-destruction and Rejection?
CH
and
RH said they could tell by the look
in their eyes.
BM:
I
have had the experience of not
recognizing someone for a whole year
who had the Feature of
Self-destruction.
THE
SOUL
IN REJECTION DOES NOT SEEM TO FIT
INTO THE MOLD NO MATTER WHAT
THE ACTIVITY. IN DISCUSSIONS THEY
WILL OFTEN TURN A RELATIVELY MILD
TOPIC INTO ROYAL IMBROGLIO BEFORE
YOU CAN BLINK YOUR EYES. THE SOUL
IN REJECTION IS NOT NECESSARILY
PASSIVE — THAT DEPENDS UPON OTHER
OVERLEAVES — BUT IS USUALLY
ARGUMENTATIVE IN MOST SITUATIONS.
THE
SOUL WITH A CHIEF FEATURE OF
SELF-DESTRUCTION USUALLY IS PASSIVE.
THEY ARE INTROSPECTIVE TO A FAULT;
WILL LOOK FOR AN OPENING IN THE
CONVERSATION AND TURN IT TO THEIR
INNER PAIN AND SUFFERING. THIS PAIN
IS ALWAYS SO CLOSE TO THE SURFACE
THAT IT FAIRLY SPILLS OVER EVERY
TIME YOU LOOK AT THEM. THIS IS NOT
TRUE WITH THE GOAL OF REJECTION.
Comment:
This
person will twist a conversation
completely to interject her
personal data, yet there is so much
distance there.
SOULS
IN
REJECTION OFTEN REMIND ONE OF THE
PERSON WHO IS ALWAYS IN THE
RIGHT PLACE A DAY LATE. IF THE
EMPHASIS IS ON PUNCTUALITY, THE SOUL
IN REJECTION WILL INEVITABLY BE
HOURS LATE. THE REVERSE OF THIS IS
ALSO TRUE. IF ONE IS OFFENDED BY
CRUDE HUMOR, THE SOUL IN REJECTION
WILL INEVITABLY TROT OUT THE MOST
RANK BATHROOM JOKES IN THE BOOK. IF
THERE IS EMPHASIS ON THIS TYPE OF
HUMOR, THE SOUL IN REJECTION WILL
SET HIMSELF ABOVE THIS.
BL:
Who
else is not punctual?
We
agreed
that one other might be a subFeature
of Stubbornness to be
late often.
CC:
I
would like to ask about J in our
church group. His Feature seems to
be Self-destruction.
YES.
CC:
His
wife is afraid he is going to “flip
out” on her. He loses
jobs frequently.
J.
HAS
THE CHIEF FEATURE OF ARROGANCE,
ALONG WITH HIS HAUGHTINESS THAT
PERCEIVES THE SMALLEST SLIGHT, REAL
OR IMAGINED. MUCH DEPENDS UPON
HIS MAINTAINING HIS IMAGE OF BEING A
‘'MAN" .THIS IS NOT
UNUSUAL. THE LADY IS A WARRIOR AND A
MARTYR.
CC:
He
said he couldn’t possibly be in
Acceptance: he would have to be
in Growth. She seems more stable
when she is with others.
NA:
I
would like to ask the Chief Feature
of one of my sons.
WE
AGREE
WITH ARROGANCE.
NA:
What
is in essence for him?
SC:
Being
a detective, police administrator,
auto racing.
MJ:
Was
Don Juan [of the Carlos Castaneda
books] a Moving Centered Sage?
THAT
IS
VALID.
MJ:
Why
did he say one had to be a “warrior”
to be a “man of
knowledge”?
SEMANTICS.
Was
Gandhi
a King?
MOHANDAS
WAS
A KING.
RH:
I
noticed a profound difference in ST
on Sunday. There was a feeling
of acceptance and warmth. She told
us she had reached a “primary”
source through automatic writing. It
is a new concept to me, working
back through past lives to the #1
[experience that shaped destiny].
THAT
WAS
A COMPLETELY VALID INSIGHT ON THE
LADY S.T.’S PART. PRIMARY
[extremely traumatic] EXPERIENCE IS
OFTEN CENTURIES IN THE PAST. THE
SECONDARY AND TERTIARY EXPERIENCES
MUST BE YOUR GUIDE [to finding,
and subsequently neutralizing,
these], AND HARD WORK IS ALL THAT
WILL
WORK TO SURFACE THE PRIMARY PAIN.
RC:
I
must have something very deep.
Michael won’t tell me what my
primary source is.
AH:
Me
too.
RH:
I
am wondering if anyone or any entity
is in contact with Ron (a
person who died [suicided?] last
Friday.) Is it in the nature of
things for Michael to meet him?
RC:
I
feel Michael has contacted him.
NO
ONE
IS NOW IN CONTACT WITH THIS SHOCKED
SOUL. THERE WILL BE A PERIOD
OF ADJUSTMENT, AND THEN PERHAPS WE
WILL GRAB THIS ONE OURSELVES. THE
CHOICES MADE BY THIS MID CYCLE
MATURE SOUL WERE AWFUL.
Do
some
souls bite off more than they can
chew, that is, take on too
many negative Goals or Chief
Features, etc.?
BM:
My
mother suicided. Was this so of her?
Did she make too many unwise
choices?
THIS
IS
AS FAR AS WE KNOW THE ONLY SET OF
CIRCUMSTANCES THAT DRIVE THE
SOUL TO SEEK THIS WAY TO FREEDOM.
Comment:
By
accepting him, we scared him. We
left it open to come back any
time. He wanted to be rejected
instead.
Comment:
We
are imprinted that we are our
brother’s keepers, and feel bad
when a person in Rejection or
Retardation seems to lose out in
life.
They came for that purpose — to
learn something. You cry because of
the guilt you have because you
“should have done something for
them”. Photograph your own
[selfrighteous] “goodness” and
remember they are not here to be
happy.
JH:
Have
SM and myself been together in past
lives?
YOU
HAVE
KNOWN EACH OTHER MANY TIMES.
JH:
When
was the most recent?
IN
THE
IMMEDIATE PAST [life].
JH:
That
must have been when I ran the
carriage house. What was she?
THIS
LADY
WAS FREQUENTLY A GUEST.
JH:
Was
this in a castle, a ruling family?
WE
WOULD
SAY SO, YES.
SM:
I
would like to ask about my husband
GM’s SRGA.
THIS
MAN
IS A THIRD LEVEL YOUNG SAGE IN
GROWTH. HE APPEARS DOMINANT BESIDE
THE LADY’S ACCEPTANCE ROLE. THIS IS
NOT UNUSUAL. HE IS AN IDEALIST
WITH A CHIEF FEATURE OF IMPATIENCE.
JH:
Were
we together in the third crusade?
Were we with King Richard [the
Lionhearted]?
THAT
IS
VALID, BUT WE PREFER THAT YOU PURSUE
THIS [on your own].
RH:
I
would like a comment on the weekend
we experienced with Robert
Monroe’s out-of-the-body workshop.
We all slept so much of the
time. We were told the results may
not show for a month. I do feel
different and realize my biological
system was thrown off its
circadian rhythm and attribute my
feeling peculiar to that. Were we
on the astral plane at all?
PLEASE
ALLOW
US TO ALLAY YOUR FEARS TO REST. YOU
ALL RECEIVED WHAT YOU
REQUESTED. THE PHENOMENA WILL
CONTINUE TO OCCUR THROUGHOUT THE
COMING
WEEKS, AND YOU WILL UP THE WILD
POTENTIAL. ALL OF YOU “HEARD” THE
TAPES JUST LIKE THE MAN ROBERT SAID
YOU DID. YOU AND SEVERAL OTHERS
IN THAT ROOM ENCOUNTERED THIS
ENTITY. FOR THEM IT WAS UNEXPECTED
AND
ACCIDENTAL. FOR YOU IT WAS
PURPOSEFUL. THE MAN ROBERT KNOWS US
NOW,
BUT DOES NOT KNOW HOW TO INTERPRET
WHAT HE KNOWS. IT IS INTERESTING
TO NOTE THAT THE DREAMS ALL CONCERN
SOME PRIMARY FANTASY FEARS, SUCH
AS A.H.: DREAMS OF PURSUIT WITH
INTENT TO VIOLENCE TO HER, AND
S.C.’S
DREAMS OF FOOD BEING DESTROYED
BEFORE HER EYES.
RC:
I
refuse to accept an image of
Michael. I know they are not on the
physical plane, so I only get eyes.
THIS
IS
YOUR ACCEPTABLE IMAGE, YES.
Do
the
astral entities have access to
causal travel?
[The]
SAME
PROCESS PERTAINS.
MM:
I
would like to ask more on souls in
Rejection. One of the teenagers
I work with suicided on Friday. I
was not working that day, and I
felt badly when I heard about him. I
felt there may have been
something I could have done to help
him. Everyone said they felt some
of this compassion.
THE
SOUL
IN REJECTION WHO SUDDENLY FINDS
HIMSELF ON THE ROAD TO SUCCESS
WILL OFTEN DEVELOP PREMATURELY
CRIPPLING DISORDERS THAT BAFFLE EVEN
THE MEDICAL PROFESSION. THEN THE
SOUL CAN THROW UP HIS HANDS AND SAY,
“WELL, WHAT MORE CAN I DO? I HAVE
THIS AWFUL DISEASE”. NO, YOU
ARE DEAD RIGHT: THERE IS ABSOLUTELY
NOTHING THAT YOU CAN DO.
(Michael told us to underscore
“you”.) THE SOUL MUST SEE THE GOAL
HIMSELF AND DESIRE TO CHANGE IT. THE
MAN CHARLES DIETRICH HAS ONE
APPROACH THAT WORKS. (Synanon man).
IT SEEMS CRUEL, BUT THERE IS
NOTHING FRAGILE ABOUT THESE SOULS.
THEY ARE TOUGH NUTS TO CRACK.
What
is
NA’s Chief Feature?
WE
SEE
MORE STUBBORNNESS THAN ANYTHING ELSE
— A BULLDOG TENACITY.
BM:
I
would like to know the SRGA of
Ernest Hemingway. He seems like a
Mature Sage in Growth.
MID
CYCLE
MATURE SAGE IN SELF-DESTRUCTION IS
NOT THAT OVERT. THIS MAN’S
CHIEF FEATURE WAS MARTYRDOM; HAS A
GOAL OF GROWTH WHICH GIVES RISE TO
THE METEORIC RISE FOLLOWED BY THE
AWESOME DECLINE.
Do
we
have any obligation to help our
fellow man?
YOU
HAVE
NO OBLIGATION TO HELP ANYONE.
What
if
we could have helped someone and we
did not? Is not there karma
incurred here?
THAT
IS
A DEBT OF ANOTHER SORT, AND CAN BE
ALMOST LIKENED TO ANY AUTOMATIC
REFLEX IN SO FAR AS MOST FRAGMENTS
ON THE PHYSICAL PLANE ARE AWARE.
Do
we
as a group have any obligation to
our fellow man?
NO.
YOU
HAVE A DESIRE TO HEAR NOW SOME
INFORMATION THAT YOU REJECTED AT
ANOTHER TIME. ALSO YOU HAVE AGREED
TO PERFORM A TASK FOR YOURSELVES
TO BURN KARMA.
Comment:
I
don’t feel any great debt.
Comment:
Sometimes
I have the desire to go back with my
nice polite, phony
friends who ask advice and then do
not take it.
RC:
I
would like to ask if RH has the same
Overleaves as Luke. He may be
stronger in the book than he was in
life.
THERE
WAS
SOME SIMILARITY. THIS [Luke] WAS A
FOURTH LEVEL OLD ARTISAN IN
GROWTH. THE MAIN DIFFERENCE WAS THE
CHIEF FEATURE OF ARROGANCE AND
THE IDEALISM.
RH:
He
was more gutsy, Luke was.
There
was
a question regarding Keptic, a
physician (?) in somebody’s
book.
THIS
MAN
STUDIED AT THE MUSEUM. OF COURSE, HE
WAS TOUCHED BY THE
BROTHERHOOD. HE WAS AWARE, BUT NOT
AN INITIATE.
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