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 March 13, 1974



Present: CC, MM, BM, JH, BL, RC and SC, RH and AH and CH, NA, SM (first time).

WE ARE HERE WITH YOU TONIGHT.

SM: I would like to know my soul Level, Role and Goal.

THE LADY, S.M., IS A FIRST LEVEL OLD WARRIOR IN ACCEPTANCE. THIS LADY IS MOSTLY MARTIAL, SOME SATURN, IN THE MOVING PART OF INTELLECTUAL CENTER, A REALIST WITH MUCH IMPATIENCE — WHICH GIVES HER FIDGETS IN THIS TYPE OF SITUATION.

MJ: I would like to ask the SRGA of a friend, N, who is in a group I’m in. She is a fragile, mid cycle Mature soul in Rejection or else a Baby soul in Submission, Intellectual part of Emotional Center. Do I owe her something, or is it her SRGA coming through?

THE FRAGILITY YOU SENSE COMES FROM THE CHIEF FEATURE OF SELF-DESTRUCTION. THIS IS A MID CYCLE MATURE ARTISAN IN SUBMISSION, MOSTLY LUNAR, SOME VENUSIAN. THE CENTERING IS VALID.

MJ: I would like more information on Chief Feature and how it differs from Goal. Self-destruction is more subtle than Martyrdom.

SHE [N.] WILL ALLOW THIS (Self-destruction). MANY [with this Chief Feature] DRINK TO EXCESS. MANY TAKE DRUGS, BUT MOST ARE MORE SUBTLE AND MERELY FLAGELLATE THEMSELVES WITH AN EMOTIONAL BULLWHIP. THIS IS NATURAL TO THEM. ALL IS PAIN. NOTHING IS PLEASURE. THERE ARE SO MANY NO’S IN THEIR LIVES THAT THEY ARE ALMOST PARALYZED.

MJ: How does one distinguish between Self-destruction and Rejection?

CH and RH said they could tell by the look in their eyes.

BM: I have had the experience of not recognizing someone for a whole year who had the Feature of Self-destruction.

THE SOUL IN REJECTION DOES NOT SEEM TO FIT INTO THE MOLD NO MATTER WHAT THE ACTIVITY. IN DISCUSSIONS THEY WILL OFTEN TURN A RELATIVELY MILD TOPIC INTO ROYAL IMBROGLIO BEFORE YOU CAN BLINK YOUR EYES. THE SOUL IN REJECTION IS NOT NECESSARILY PASSIVE — THAT DEPENDS UPON OTHER OVERLEAVES — BUT IS USUALLY ARGUMENTATIVE IN MOST SITUATIONS. THE SOUL WITH A CHIEF FEATURE OF SELF-DESTRUCTION USUALLY IS PASSIVE. THEY ARE INTROSPECTIVE TO A FAULT; WILL LOOK FOR AN OPENING IN THE CONVERSATION AND TURN IT TO THEIR INNER PAIN AND SUFFERING. THIS PAIN IS ALWAYS SO CLOSE TO THE SURFACE THAT IT FAIRLY SPILLS OVER EVERY TIME YOU LOOK AT THEM. THIS IS NOT TRUE WITH THE GOAL OF REJECTION.

Comment: This person will twist a conversation completely to interject her personal data, yet there is so much distance there.

SOULS IN REJECTION OFTEN REMIND ONE OF THE PERSON WHO IS ALWAYS IN THE RIGHT PLACE A DAY LATE. IF THE EMPHASIS IS ON PUNCTUALITY, THE SOUL IN REJECTION WILL INEVITABLY BE HOURS LATE. THE REVERSE OF THIS IS ALSO TRUE. IF ONE IS OFFENDED BY CRUDE HUMOR, THE SOUL IN REJECTION WILL INEVITABLY TROT OUT THE MOST RANK BATHROOM JOKES IN THE BOOK. IF THERE IS EMPHASIS ON THIS TYPE OF HUMOR, THE SOUL IN REJECTION WILL SET HIMSELF ABOVE THIS.

BL: Who else is not punctual?

We agreed that one other might be a subFeature of Stubbornness to be late often.

CC: I would like to ask about J in our church group. His Feature seems to be Self-destruction.

YES.

CC: His wife is afraid he is going to “flip out” on her. He loses jobs frequently.

J. HAS THE CHIEF FEATURE OF ARROGANCE, ALONG WITH HIS HAUGHTINESS THAT PERCEIVES THE SMALLEST SLIGHT, REAL OR IMAGINED. MUCH DEPENDS UPON HIS MAINTAINING HIS IMAGE OF BEING A ‘'MAN" .THIS IS NOT UNUSUAL. THE LADY IS A WARRIOR AND A MARTYR.

CC: He said he couldn’t possibly be in Acceptance: he would have to be in Growth. She seems more stable when she is with others.

NA: I would like to ask the Chief Feature of one of my sons.

WE AGREE WITH ARROGANCE.

NA: What is in essence for him?

SC: Being a detective, police administrator, auto racing.

MJ: Was Don Juan [of the Carlos Castaneda books] a Moving Centered Sage?

THAT IS VALID.

MJ: Why did he say one had to be a “warrior” to be a “man of knowledge”?

SEMANTICS.

Was Gandhi a King?

MOHANDAS WAS A KING.

RH: I noticed a profound difference in ST on Sunday. There was a feeling of acceptance and warmth. She told us she had reached a “primary” source through automatic writing. It is a new concept to me, working back through past lives to the #1 [experience that shaped destiny].

THAT WAS A COMPLETELY VALID INSIGHT ON THE LADY S.T.’S PART. PRIMARY [extremely traumatic] EXPERIENCE IS OFTEN CENTURIES IN THE PAST. THE SECONDARY AND TERTIARY EXPERIENCES MUST BE YOUR GUIDE [to finding, and subsequently neutralizing, these], AND HARD WORK IS ALL THAT WILL WORK TO SURFACE THE PRIMARY PAIN.

RC: I must have something very deep. Michael won’t tell me what my primary source is.

AH: Me too.

RH: I am wondering if anyone or any entity is in contact with Ron (a person who died [suicided?] last Friday.) Is it in the nature of things for Michael to meet him?

RC: I feel Michael has contacted him.

NO ONE IS NOW IN CONTACT WITH THIS SHOCKED SOUL. THERE WILL BE A PERIOD OF ADJUSTMENT, AND THEN PERHAPS WE WILL GRAB THIS ONE OURSELVES. THE CHOICES MADE BY THIS MID CYCLE MATURE SOUL WERE AWFUL.

Do some souls bite off more than they can chew, that is, take on too many negative Goals or Chief Features, etc.?

BM: My mother suicided. Was this so of her? Did she make too many unwise choices?

THIS IS AS FAR AS WE KNOW THE ONLY SET OF CIRCUMSTANCES THAT DRIVE THE SOUL TO SEEK THIS WAY TO FREEDOM.

Comment: By accepting him, we scared him. We left it open to come back any time. He wanted to be rejected instead.

Comment: We are imprinted that we are our brother’s keepers, and feel bad when a person in Rejection or Retardation seems to lose out in life. They came for that purpose — to learn something. You cry because of the guilt you have because you “should have done something for them”. Photograph your own [selfrighteous] “goodness” and remember they are not here to be happy.

JH: Have SM and myself been together in past lives?

YOU HAVE KNOWN EACH OTHER MANY TIMES.

JH: When was the most recent?

IN THE IMMEDIATE PAST [life].

JH: That must have been when I ran the carriage house. What was she?

THIS LADY WAS FREQUENTLY A GUEST.

JH: Was this in a castle, a ruling family?

WE WOULD SAY SO, YES.

SM: I would like to ask about my husband GM’s SRGA.

THIS MAN IS A THIRD LEVEL YOUNG SAGE IN GROWTH. HE APPEARS DOMINANT BESIDE THE LADY’S ACCEPTANCE ROLE. THIS IS NOT UNUSUAL. HE IS AN IDEALIST WITH A CHIEF FEATURE OF IMPATIENCE.

JH: Were we together in the third crusade? Were we with King Richard [the Lionhearted]?

THAT IS VALID, BUT WE PREFER THAT YOU PURSUE THIS [on your own].

RH: I would like a comment on the weekend we experienced with Robert Monroe’s out-of-the-body workshop. We all slept so much of the time. We were told the results may not show for a month. I do feel different and realize my biological system was thrown off its circadian rhythm and attribute my feeling peculiar to that. Were we on the astral plane at all?

PLEASE ALLOW US TO ALLAY YOUR FEARS TO REST. YOU ALL RECEIVED WHAT YOU REQUESTED. THE PHENOMENA WILL CONTINUE TO OCCUR THROUGHOUT THE COMING WEEKS, AND YOU WILL UP THE WILD POTENTIAL. ALL OF YOU “HEARD” THE TAPES JUST LIKE THE MAN ROBERT SAID YOU DID. YOU AND SEVERAL OTHERS IN THAT ROOM ENCOUNTERED THIS ENTITY. FOR THEM IT WAS UNEXPECTED AND ACCIDENTAL. FOR YOU IT WAS PURPOSEFUL. THE MAN ROBERT KNOWS US NOW, BUT DOES NOT KNOW HOW TO INTERPRET WHAT HE KNOWS. IT IS INTERESTING TO NOTE THAT THE DREAMS ALL CONCERN SOME PRIMARY FANTASY FEARS, SUCH AS A.H.: DREAMS OF PURSUIT WITH INTENT TO VIOLENCE TO HER, AND S.C.’S DREAMS OF FOOD BEING DESTROYED BEFORE HER EYES.

RC: I refuse to accept an image of Michael. I know they are not on the physical plane, so I only get eyes.

THIS IS YOUR ACCEPTABLE IMAGE, YES.

Do the astral entities have access to causal travel?

[The] SAME PROCESS PERTAINS.

MM: I would like to ask more on souls in Rejection. One of the teenagers I work with suicided on Friday. I was not working that day, and I felt badly when I heard about him. I felt there may have been something I could have done to help him. Everyone said they felt some of this compassion.

THE SOUL IN REJECTION WHO SUDDENLY FINDS HIMSELF ON THE ROAD TO SUCCESS WILL OFTEN DEVELOP PREMATURELY CRIPPLING DISORDERS THAT BAFFLE EVEN THE MEDICAL PROFESSION. THEN THE SOUL CAN THROW UP HIS HANDS AND SAY, “WELL, WHAT MORE CAN I DO? I HAVE THIS AWFUL DISEASE”. NO, YOU ARE DEAD RIGHT: THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING THAT YOU CAN DO. (Michael told us to underscore “you”.) THE SOUL MUST SEE THE GOAL HIMSELF AND DESIRE TO CHANGE IT. THE MAN CHARLES DIETRICH HAS ONE APPROACH THAT WORKS. (Synanon man). IT SEEMS CRUEL, BUT THERE IS NOTHING FRAGILE ABOUT THESE SOULS. THEY ARE TOUGH NUTS TO CRACK.

What is NA’s Chief Feature?

WE SEE MORE STUBBORNNESS THAN ANYTHING ELSE — A BULLDOG TENACITY.

BM: I would like to know the SRGA of Ernest Hemingway. He seems like a Mature Sage in Growth.

MID CYCLE MATURE SAGE IN SELF-DESTRUCTION IS NOT THAT OVERT. THIS MAN’S CHIEF FEATURE WAS MARTYRDOM; HAS A GOAL OF GROWTH WHICH GIVES RISE TO THE METEORIC RISE FOLLOWED BY THE AWESOME DECLINE.

Do we have any obligation to help our fellow man?

YOU HAVE NO OBLIGATION TO HELP ANYONE.

What if we could have helped someone and we did not? Is not there karma incurred here?

THAT IS A DEBT OF ANOTHER SORT, AND CAN BE ALMOST LIKENED TO ANY AUTOMATIC REFLEX IN SO FAR AS MOST FRAGMENTS ON THE PHYSICAL PLANE ARE AWARE.

Do we as a group have any obligation to our fellow man?

NO. YOU HAVE A DESIRE TO HEAR NOW SOME INFORMATION THAT YOU REJECTED AT ANOTHER TIME. ALSO YOU HAVE AGREED TO PERFORM A TASK FOR YOURSELVES TO BURN KARMA.

Comment: I don’t feel any great debt.

Comment: Sometimes I have the desire to go back with my nice polite, phony friends who ask advice and then do not take it.

RC: I would like to ask if RH has the same Overleaves as Luke. He may be stronger in the book than he was in life.

THERE WAS SOME SIMILARITY. THIS [Luke] WAS A FOURTH LEVEL OLD ARTISAN IN GROWTH. THE MAIN DIFFERENCE WAS THE CHIEF FEATURE OF ARROGANCE AND THE IDEALISM.

RH: He was more gutsy, Luke was.

There was a question regarding Keptic, a physician (?) in somebody’s book.

THIS MAN STUDIED AT THE MUSEUM. OF COURSE, HE WAS TOUCHED BY THE BROTHERHOOD. HE WAS AWARE, BUT NOT AN INITIATE.



 

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