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Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 12:03:57 -0400 Lori, Tell me more. I have sneezed and my eyes have been watering since I was knee-high to the proverbial grasshopper. Animal allergies are the worst - every time I am heading off to someplace new, I have to ask if they have pets, and if they do, I show up zoned on benadryl or tavist or whatever antihistamine happens to be working that week. To make matters worse, my son, now 4, appears to have chosen to inherit same. It is my observation that he is not merely copying my behavior ... he is in fact allergic to animals and pollens. I was hoping he would just inherit my good looks and wisdom ... alas. Where can I find information on NAET and who might practice in my area?? I don't really care to go through the whole shot routine myself - I'd rather just avoid the source of the irritation as much as possible. But my son's allergies are already so bad that he developed bronchitis this winter and shows early signs of asthma. I'm holding the traditional allergy shot routine in one hand and him developing asthma in the other hand ... and I really wish I had more hands or more ideas on how to manage this. Food allergies CAN be controlled by removing those foods from the diet (I know this is almost impossible); but what is even more impossible is removing the pollens from the very air we breathe - which seems to be where my son's problems lie. So, I'm all for trying some non-invasive technique. I remember reading in the Yarbro books about allergies to animals being a manifestation of denial. I always interpreted that as a denial of something from a past life or lives. So I don't know that that is "fixable" in this life. Perhaps I'm avoiding some karmic resolution that has something to do with a roomful of cats and dandelions. Gina Mnemosyne - the Greek Goddess of Memory - as in, what was I supposed to be doing this life, and where did I put my car keys? Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 17:30:00 +0100 THE HUMAN CIRCLE OF LIFE IN A TIME OF ENORMOUS CHANGE MANY PEOPLE ARE NOW TURNING TO THE WAYS OF THE
INDIGENOUS PEOPLE OF TURTLE ISLAND (NORTH AMERICA) TO BRING MEANING TO THEIR
LIVES AND HEALING TO THEMSELVES AND THE PLANET. SADLY, MANY SPIRITUAL LEADERS
AND TRIBAL ELDERS WHO HAVE POWERFUL KNOWLEDGE OF THE OLD WAYS HAVE BEEN IGNORED,
AND MUCH THAT WE WILL NEED FOR OUR OWN HEALING, AND TO RESTORE MOTHER EARTH, IS
IN DANGER OF BEING LOST. I WISH GOOD VISIONS AND A PURE HEART TO YOU ALL WA-NA-NEE-CHE Homepage http://web.ukonline.co.uk/wananeeche.t/index.htm Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 18:06:06 -0400 Hi everyone, Just curious, Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 18:36:54 EDT In a message dated 98-05-10 08:29:09 EDT, Jeanne writes:
My apologies to Dave. It's unfair of me to expect any of you who are much
You don't owe me an apology. I don't mind if you disagree with any of my opinions, in fact, it's the varied input from people that makes forums like this so interesting. Dave :-) Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 19:24:29 EDT Dear Sharon -- I read the first one and the others probably have a similar flavor. It doesn't excite me much. It seems like a mature soul, maybe 7th level view of a spiritual path: all serious, no possibility of humor. Most people who desperately want to "ascend" can't laugh about it because of the belief system that it is so desperately seriously important. IMHO a slightly higher perspective than that is beyond ascension, let's "descend" and roll up our sleeves and make this place into heaven in physicality here and now. One can know that there are all the wonders of the higher planes, but we're physical, so let's do it with love and joy. All the best, Ed Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 19:25:29 EDT Dear Lori -- Very well said, exactly, and right on! IMHO we ARE unconditional love naturally and all the time except to the degree we cover it over and block it with all the fear-based stuff. It doesn't take any energy of doingness or focus except whatever it takes to be clear and centered as in meditation. Channeling healing energy as you describe seems to deplete vitamins, especially B's) as a physical side effect of the added work that the nervous system has to do in conducting the higher levels of energy through the body. I think this may be biochemically similar to what happens in the highs and resulting hangovers we get from alcohol. Then it seems like to be able to best enjoy the pleasure of channeling the healing energy we must "lift the vibration" or generally purify, detox and strengthen the physical body, which is a long process but very satisfying. All the best, Ed Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 17:02:57 -0700
> Lori,
Hi Gina,
> To make matters worse, my son, now 4, appears to have chosen to inherit
A few months ago I did a little channeling at a group meeting of some Michael folks aroaund here and I found it interesting what I got from Michael regarding healing. They said that we choose our bodies based on the genetics available and even though we may choose to have the predisposition to certain diseases based on those genetic traits, we also have the ability to choose whether or not our bodies will express those traits. Back in 1994, when I took Steve Cocconi's Michael channeling class, Steve said we could ask Michael to help us with something in our lives. I asked Michael if they would "help me heal my heart." My choice of words there were well beyond anything I consciously intended at that moment, because it began with emotional healing, which continues....But the physical healing aspect has brought me here, down to somewhere I never would have ever guessed--allergies? If you look at that web-site I mentioned you'll see a list of things that might be caused by allergies and you would be amazed at what's there.
> I don't really care to go through the whole shot routine myself - I'd
My son has early stages of asthma too but we have yet to discover just what he's allergic to that causes that.
> I'm holding the traditional allergy shot routine in one hand and him developing asthma in the
We've got a HEPA filter running in my son's room at night. Doesn't seem to do him much good though. BTW: If you ever get solicited by people selling ozone generators as air cleaners and purifiers--please don't buy it! They'll tell you that ozone will make your house fresh like a spring day but it's not true. Ozone in low concentrations in the outside air is natural, yes, but in indoor air from a generator, it can turn irritating chemicals that might be in your house into worse things. They'll tell you it turns contaminants into harmless carbon dioxide and water but I've seen scientific papers that we have right here at my work (I work for an air-pollution control agency) that show that these chemicals take *years* to convert to carbon dioxide and water when ozone is within "safe" concentrations indoors. I tried one of these ozone generating "air purifiers" out for a couple days as a free trial and all it did was make the air smell like ozone mixed with whatever other smell might have been around. I'm very sensitive to these things. The air-ionizing part included with the unit I saw, that removes particulates from the air may have had some merit though. I don't know enough about that part. They did not sell that part separately and wouldn't tell me how it works. But I had the HEPA filter for particulates already which would remove pollen and most other allergens from the air.
> I remember reading in the Yarbro books about allergies to animals being a
Who knows? I wouldn't take denial as the only answer. :^) Blessings, Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 20:26:17 -0400 Thank you Ken and Ed. Best wishes, Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 21:58:42 EDT My 2 cents on "Universal Truth" is that all the scholarly debate doesn't get us any closer to it. Someone (Dan?) talked about it being a feeling, and that's where I agree. It's a knowingness that is beyond our meat unit brains & language. It's visceral, not intellectual. We are just blind men feeling up an elephant when we try to debate the issue. And as to the Tao being unchangeable, that has to be pure speculation. I think the farther we get from our level of perspective, the harder it is to define and quantify the universal structure. Probably there's just a giant blob of quivering Taoplasm up there somewhere. What 'feels' right to me is that your gut knows the truth in one moment of time, and that's all ya get. Next week, you may get a different answer. Martha Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 22:08:32 EDT Dear Sharon -- About not wanting to come back very much, or not at all. I'd recommend this idea: let your essence decide about whether and how much it wants to come back and when. Let your essence be the senior executive planning manager of lifetimes, while you take care of making the very best you can out of this one that is you. Enjoy these super-interesting times. All the best, Ed Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 22:11:29 EDT Most heartfelt congratulations to one of our Michael channels, the fabulous Caris Palm Turpen, on receiving a well-deserved Emmy Award on Saturday night. You go girl! IHaveNoET Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 22:18:43 -0400 I think I figured it out....how God resolved her challenge with the three
sets of eyes.... "Hey Hun do you know where the (fill in the blank) is? She must have taken a pair of eyes from the Fathers! M'Ixchel... having a hillarious Mother's Day and loving every minute of it, Oh, by the way....if it weren't for you fellas we women wouldn't be Mothers so I offer a warm thanks to you guys for extending your part in the process hee hee hee M'Ixchel Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 22:36:45 EDT Dear Lori and Gina -- I don't have specific advice but I have the strong feeling that you need to go more radical (to the roots) in your approach for allergies. There is a great website: www.2cowherd.net/q where a guy called Dave Q has collected a ton of good alternative and radicvally true info about MS, which he pretty well recovered from. He has an article there by Ashton Embry (add /embry to the previous URL) that proves conclusively by epidemiology studies that the only possible cause of MS is the western diet. MS is a super monstrous food allergy situation. He shows the detailed mechanisms by which the food-allergic reactions allow the phenomena of MS to happen. The vast majority of cases involve a reaction to one or more of five kinds of protein substances: meat, dairy, eggs, yeast, or legumes. Very often removing the offending substance (or all of them, if you don't want to bother screwing around testing) from the diet brings about a good recovery. Of course the medical scientific establishment has never even approached beginning to look at this, or many similar grossly common medical problems we have. So many huge vested interests would be threatened and the baby and young soul mainstream folks would feel horribly put down. I'd suspect the whole area of "knowledge" about allergies (food and other) is very deficient for similar reasons; and a young aoul medical establishment wants to spend a fortune on decoding DNA and inventing drugs rather than looking at simple radical truth about diet and health. So probably we all would do well, whether or not we have allergies, to poke around extensively in the net and alternative sources while at the same time we tune into our own inner guidance about whether or not particular information rings true for oneself or whether it is something to use. Lori, you're right that we can transcend bad genes. That is another area in which the truth is more positive than what the establishment wants us to believe. Good luck, and all the best, Ed Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 22:55:58 EDT What I hold to be true, and all encompassing true from a quasi-scientific pov, are patterns that occur everywhere...like waves. We don't always know how it will look or work on a grand scale, or sometimes that's all we know and it takes us a long time to see what's really going on on the smallest level. Patterns like waves are truth for me because they seem to be in all things are are readily accessible. Also patterns like life cycles -- things that can be very telling from a spiritual aspect, you know? If it is true on all those levels...well then...that's all I need! Then I decide how I'm gonna use this new found truth, or how I am going to further explore it. Because if there are waves in the ocean and in the air and in sound and light, I bet there are waves in lots of other places too, huh? Probably! Kris Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 20:59:13 -0700
> There is a great website: www.2cowherd.net/q where a guy called Dave Q has
Hi Ed, thanks for the url--I checked it out and sent it to my co-worker who has MS. She's doing a lot of meditation and the Swank Diet too, and doing much better than her doctors ever expected. What you say about the "western" diet has a lot of truth to it. I certainly wouldn't say anyone should try to get rid of their allergies if they're just doing it to continue to have an unhealthy diet because they'll just stay sick anyway of course. What I am talking about is people who have listened to their bodies and done the work on an emotional and spiritual level, and their physical suffering really no longer serves them. Then I think it's time they ought to be able to choose another way, where their bodies aren't constantly reacting in an unbalanced way to normal things in their environment and diet. Most of us don't want to live on top of mountains eating berries and fasting for some kind of spiritual holiness. Most of us live in cities and towns where we pretty much have to choose what's there around us for food, clothing, shelter, etc. We're bringing in our spirituality into this plane, and often it's a painful process because we chose very sensitive bodies that feel the connections to the Earth, the other life forms, other people, and those more subtle energies around us. We care about these things, and we feel the changes going on and the destruction that has happened due to pollution and people, who out of fear or pain or plain ignorance, do harmful things to others, themselves, or the Earth, and our bodies react to this as well, mirroring the things that are going on around us in the world. It creates unbalanced energy patterns within our physical and etheric beings. The NAET clears the energy imbalances in the body, which in turn desensitize the body's reaction to the world around us. It does not break down the other kinds of connections, on the emotional, intellectual, or spiritual way, but allows us to connect in a way that does not harm us so much as human beings. What I'm saying is that suffering is a choice, and I wanted to find a way to relieve some suffering for people in my life and for myself, and I believe that this is one of those ways. Certainly it is not exclusive, nor complete in its solution to all allergies or health problems. I'm not sure where all that I wrote above came from, but it's starting to make some sense to me. Thank you for your post Ed! Love, Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 01:35:42 EDT Dear Lori -- I didn't mean to imply (not sure if you took it so) any lessening of the approach of clearing emotional stuff, etc., that holds allergies in place. I would say that probably most people with the problem will need to address both the physical and the non-physical aspects for best results. Some people will have purely physical causes, some emotional (which could mean either karma or unprocessed stuff from this life or past lives), some both. I'd expect to see something happen within a few years that will drastically impact the "cow culture" (as JP was talking about at the end of the conference) -- it might be a disease that wipes out the cattle, or enough mad cow disease occurring to ruin the beef market, or the waste from the cow and pig feedlots causing some horrible effect, for instance, like the pfisteria bacteria (fed by pig waste) that is killing fish in the Carolinas and Chesapeake Bay but worse and much wider spread....Michael might agree that there is a good probability for something like these to happen that will revolutionize the western diet soon. Yippee! All the best, Ed Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 06:10:50 EDT In a message dated 5/11/98 11:28:09 PM, you wrote:
Channeling healing energy as you describe seems to deplete vitamins,
Thanks for the idea, Ed. I have had similar experiences from performing...
waking the next day with the worst "hangover". Of course, I was depleting the
body of something... I don't know why I didn't think of supplimenting with
vitamines. Date: Tue, 12 May 98 01:48:59 UT Hi Jeanne and all, I've been vacationing in the Utah canyonlands, walking in beauty. I've been there and done that before . . . but I can't imagine ever being tired of walking under clear skies among the red rocks, hearing the descant of the canyon wrens. As for your question about truth, the Tao Te Ching sums it up for me: "The truth that can be spoken is not the eternal Truth." love to all Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 05:25:08 -0500 Wanted to add my congratulations and let everyone know that that you can see the work that Caris received her Emmy for by watching "Wishbone" on PBS. We're very proud of you Caris. Now we can say "We knew her when..." Jeanne Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 07:17:40 -0400 Dear Listmates, Having been a long time sufferer of hayfever (from little kid days to about 20 years ago) I discovered two extremely important facts about the symptoms I was experiencing. 1. They showed up only when I was going thru some kind of biochemical or
emotional stress. 2. They showed up only when I referred to them as "MY" symptoms. When I was a little kid I was told that I had inherited "my" hayfever from my father. So, being a good obedient little kid, I promptly manifested the seasonal sneezing and eye watering. The biochemically caused symptoms (hangover) relief was greatly assisted by taking multi-vitamins before and after a heavy drinking session. Later, as I got smarter, I just stopped drinking so much. The symptoms due to worrying ceased when I realized that most stuff that I was worrying about had little or nothing to do with me personally, and that stuff that I could not do anything about was ripe for the trash can. The "owning" of the allergy, i.e. "My Hayfever", caused me to continue manifesting hayfever symptoms every year when "I expected" to have hay fever symptoms. Once I refused to own the symptoms they were no longer mine, and could not attach themselves to me. We tend to do the same thing to ourselves, our kids, and our loved ones by attaching possessive nouns and pronouns to the allergies by referring to the allergy as "my child's allergy", "my husband's allergy", and even "my allergy". The same principle applies to any dis-ease... if you own it, it is yours. They may seem like small stuff, but eliminating the stuff mentioned above is a step on the road to being allergy free. -- Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 07:26:45 -0400 Jeanne wrote:
> Wanted to add my congratulations and let everyone know that
Jeanne, if you're referring to the little Jack Russell terrier that has adventures throughout history, I love that little guy. Could you tell me/us what part Caris had/has in the production of that series? I missed the Emmys. TAO Bless You, and Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 06:32:43 -0500 Ken, Caris won for "Graphics and Title Design" I believe. She does not appear in the production. But I think the production staff won 3 Emmy's. (Caris, correct me if I'm wrong.) Jeanne Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 10:40:24 EDT Dear Ken -- About owning or not owning "my" disease, etc., very good point. I know in my life the same principle applied exactly when I quit smoking about 20 years ago. I had had the idea for awhile that I didn't like smoking, I didn't like the foul taste in my mouth and all the other bad things that go along with and offset the little positive zap I got when I lit one up. Several times I tried to reduce my smoking by keeping track of how many I smoked each day and gradually reducing the number. This didn't work for me (and seldom does for anyone from what I hear.) Finally, the idea came along: what is a supposedly wise, intelligent, wonderful human being like me, supposed to be here to inspire people and change the world, doing with a miserable disgusting addiction? Why would anyone respect me in whatever my great work might be, or regard me as wise and intelligent, if I can't stop a cancer-causing self-destructive addiction that tastes horrible and embarrasses me constantly by my inability to stop doing it? As soon as I thought that thought, it was over. I never smoked again or have had even the smallest desire to. Basically, I made it taboo. I changed my attitude toward it. In my mind it became in the same class as kicking puppy dogs or eating shit: something just unthinkable, or taboo as the anthropologists call it. I've found that practically everyone who has successfully quit smoking did it cold turkey, basically like I did, not by hard work and will power but by changing their ownership of the creation in their life. I control whether or not I smoke, not the other way around. You could say that the decision to quit in that way is like a little switch on the wall that shuts down a power plant the size of a city block. Use that switch rather than go into the machinery! All the best, Ed Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 10:41:36 EDT Re: NAET I've had 44 treatments in the Nambudripad Allergy Elimination Technique. I had originally intended to have 4, just to clear up those I reacted to in the "top ten" (the most important allergens to clear), but my practitioner kept finding more things I was reacting negatively to, include hormones and other substances my own body produces. I have two more treatments or so to go, and then I'll be done. I haven't gotten the results I'd hoped for (the elimination of my sleep disorder and headaches) but I HAVE gone several months now without getting sick or even fighting something off, which is really good for me, especially when I'm sleep deprived. I have added milk products back into my diet (yogurt in moderation) for the first time in about 20 years, and don't seem to be having problems from them--that was the one thing I knew I was allergic to beforehand. Some people find the results aren't permanent, which simply means that you have to have more treatments to reinforce the clearing. Also, as you clear some things and go to deeper levels, other things can come up that tested okay before. Some people get great results from the technique, and some people don't--it's pretty controversial, from those I've talked to. (Some people get tired of the treatments stretching on and on, with more allergens constantly being found, and don't stay with it until nothing more is found. I can understand that--it gets expensive and time consuming.) In the least, it's probably a good "tune up" for the body. Michael through me has always been big on Chinese medicine, and this technique, while Western, utilizes acupuncture (as well as acupressure and muscle-testing). Some chiropractors and naturopaths are also trained in the technique, and don't use needles, but Nambudripad says that the technique is more effective using needles. As someone who has been an overly sensitive person--I came into this lifetime with some open wounds--it makes sense to me that my body has reflected that by being over-reactive. This technique "tells" the body, one substance at a time, that that substance is okay. Genetics also plays a part--some people are born with strong constitutions--they can do practically anything to their bodies without much problem--while other bodies are delicate. Another factor: my mother, for example, was sickly and took a lot of medications before and during her pregnancy with me, delivered C-section, and didn't breast- feed--these are all weakening influences. Add to that the typical American diet, pollution, ELFs, etc., and no wonder our bodies are confused! I asked Sarah Chambers, who was among the first Michael channels in the true original group, about that famously cryptic remark, "Allergies are denials." It's not certain that Sarah actually channeled that, since two other channels "worked the board" at that time, but she asked Michael about it, approximately 25 years later. I asked: Michael responded: Re: Amazon books As most of you probably know, Amazon Books is an online bookstore through which you can order any in-print book. It's very convenient, and they often give good discounts--I've been using it a lot lately. I now have a link to them at the bottom of my site's index page (http://summerjoy.com). If you use it rather than going directly there, they give me a 5% commission. I'm donating 1% to Amnesty International and other non-profits. Thanks. Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 10:59:06 -0500
Caris won for "Graphics and Title Design" I believe. She does not appear in the production.
Thank you Tina and Jeanne for the mention. I am still so happy. Yes, I won the award for designing the opening credits sequence that is being used on the second season shows. (I also directed, shot, and composited it.) (For those of you who watch the show, the first season credits are on a white background, the second season credits are very colorful and more layered and fun.) My regular title on the show is Visual Effects Supervisor, as well as 2nd Unit Director/Director of Photography. I direct and shoot 2nd unit sequences for the show, as well as direct, shoot and do the computer/compositing work for all the visual effects shots. Wishbone has not been in production since last summer when it wrapped its second season. It is currently looking for more money for a third season, but no deals so far. Other departments that won awards: Art Department, Costumes. Our Editors were also nominated but that award went to Bill Nye. The awards ceremony was not telecast; our deal was called the Creative Awards, otherwise known as Geek City, different from the Talent Awards, otherwise known as Silicone Junction. There will be a telecast ceremony from New York on Saturday nite, and this is the one where Susan Lucci will make her 20th appearance as a nominee. We had a great time saying to eachother,'we've won more Emmy's than Susan!' Interestingly, I have now met two other kings who are also camerapeople. Other kings who were directors - Otto Preminger and Orson Wells. Oh, that I were in THAT league. :) I wrote a brief first person narrative of what it was like to go to the awards and all - if you'd like a copy, please email me and I'll send you one. love, Caris Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 11:54:26 -0400 Lori, Thanks for the information. I'll check it out. Now I just have to sneak up on someone who has internet access in this office and hit 'em over the head ... aw, I'll just wait til they go to lunch. Avoidance!! that's my motto. Thanks again, Gina Mnemosyne - the Greek Goddess of Memory - as in, what was I supposed to be doing this life, and where did I put my car keys? Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 11:58:36 -0400 Martha - Mystic Girl,
We are just blind men feeling up an elephant when we try to debate the issue.
Hmm, interesting choice of words. Gina Mnemosyne - the Greek Goddess of Memory - as in, what was I supposed to be doing this life, and where did I put my car keys? Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 20:07:07 -0500 Ken wrote: (Big Snip)
> We tend to do the same thing to ourselves, our kids, and our loved ones by attaching
What if you had no idea what was wrong and just got a diagnosis from the
Doctor telling you you have "shingles". What are shingles? Where do they come
from? Are you saying that if I don't take the medicine, they will just go away by themselves (Itself/whatever)? I think I need a little help here. Love and painful laughter Jeanne Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 21:39:29 -0500 At 11:18 12.05.98 -0000, kenneth broom wrote:
> The "owning" of the allergy, i.e. "My Hayfever", caused me to continue
hmm. i've associated my allergies with different stages of my life. as they have been different in each stage. god forbid i should be stuck with the same boring allergy my whole life. i do notice a tendency to outgrow them. which i like. i like the feeling of growing. i suffered from hayfever most of my life and it was only when i started to grow 'away' from it in a sense that the symptoms disappeared. my allergist was highly skeptical when i told him that i was no longer suffering from my symptoms but i remember at the time associating it with a whole change of perspective that i had undergone in the last couple years. it just became something i associated with a previous stage of my life that i was now outgrowing. now it's food allergies i'm dealing with, but that's okay because it's mostly dairy which i'm afraid to eat anyway. sure beats hayfever. javex. Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 22:51:58 -0400 Jeanne wrote:
> What if you had no idea what was wrong and just got a diagnosis from the
No. Absolutely that is not what I'm saying. I don't know what would happen if you don't take the medicine. It's your choice whether or not to follow your doctor's recommendations. I do know that detesting anything is not the way to get rid of it. Ask your inner self whether you "chose" them or whether they are symptomatic of some other situation. Listen to my own little episode/bout with shingles. About three years ago I had a severe case of shingles on my neck and the whole of my right shoulder front and back. They just showed up one morning. I did a lot of reading about it, and found out that shingles is an inflamation of the sheath that covers the nerves. I read and was told that it would take a couple years to be rid of it. To which I said "No way, two years!" This shit itches so much it actually becomes extremely painful. So what I did was I went inside to find out if there was an inner cause. It turned out that my 85 year old mother, who had asked me to come from Hawaii to live with her here in Maryland because she is getting on in years, was relying too heavily on me to do things that she could have done for herself. She had taken to interrupting me whenever she wanted some little something done regardless of what I was doing and regardless of my need for personal space and time. This was extremely irritating for me, and caused me great amounts stress especially in light of my overleaves and the strong "Introversion tendencies" in my Myers-Briggs INFP. In trying to do right by my mother I had inadvertently done a great wrong to myself. The inner stress manifested itself as a whopping galloping case of the shingles, and as a "PAIN IN THE NECK". We, my mother and I, immediately came to an agreement on how best to leave me my time and space, and still fulfill her needs as a legally blind senior citizen lady. This also included for her to not "mother at" her 57 year old son. The next step was to find out how to get rid of those daggone shingles. Somehow my body knew exactly what to do, which was exactly what I was very leary of doing. When the shingles first showed up I absolutely could not put my shoulder into the shower spray because it hurt too much, but that is exactly what my inner self said to do. So... I adjusted the shower spray to a hot fine needle spray, and put my shoulder right into the spray. Lo and behold... it worked. The pain abated immediately, and day by day the blisters and sensitivity decreased until after 2 weeks they were all gone. And haven't showed up since then. I cannot say that this is correct for anyone. It worked very well for me. I made the conscious decision to not contact a doctor of any kind. I "knew" that I could handle this by myself. The only medicine I used was some external antiseptic on the open sores to prevent infection. I took nothing internally other than Light and Chi. And all during those two weeks I absolutely refused to attach my self to the shingles by referring to them as "my" shingles. My "body" had the shingles, not me. And I made that absolutely clear to the whole universe. So... for me shingles were a stress symptom due to unmet needs. As we age physically and spiritually our needs change. Check your inner life to see what has changed within you, and from these... what adjustments may need to be made to your external life. I really hope this helps you, Lady Jeanne. I've missed your laughter tag lines lately. Lots of Light and Love to You and your Body. It's a challenge, but one that I am sure you can handle successfully. Peace and Light to You and Yours, Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 22:15:57 -0500 Just a reminder that by June 1st I need to know which choice each of you has made regarding a standard newsletter or a Website Newsletter. I've heard from a number of people, but there are a lot more of you out there who have remained silent. And to allay any fears, if the Website is the choice of the majority, any of you who have e-mail but no access to the Internet will receive an e-mail version, if I am aware that you don't have internet access. No one will be left out, regardless of choice. Please send your choice to me, so that it doesn't clog up the list. And thanks to all of you who have already responded. Love and Laughter, Jeanne 5th Level Old Sage/Priest ET; Discrimination; Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 22:18:37 -0500 Thorunn, Just wanted you to know that your joke was greatly appreciated. I printed it out and took it to work and everyone loved it. Jeanne Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 01:01:28 -0700 Caris, Thanks so much for posting this. And thanks also to Tina and Jeanne for bringing it up in the first place. I had never heard of the show, didn't watch the Emmy's (well, as mentioned in your post, it wasn't telecast anyway, but I'll try to pick it up Saturday), and had no idea of your occupation.
| I wrote a brief first person narrative of what it was like to go to the | awards and all - if you'd like a copy, please email me and I'll send you one.
Done! Cheers, Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 08:07:02 -0400 Caris, Mega congratulations ... and if I had known that you were responsible for Wishbone, I would have thanked you a long time ago. It is one of my 4 yr old son's favorite programs ... and one of the few things I allow him to watch on TV!! Thank you!! Gina Mnemosyne - the Greek Goddess of Memory - as in, what was I supposed to be doing this life, and where did I put my car keys? Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 00:08:06 +0800 Ed wrote on 12/5/98 2:09 am:
> Dear Sharon -- About not wanting to come back very much, or not at all. I'd
:-) As if we have any say about wanting to come back or not. ;-> J J Tan Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 07:46:49 EDT
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Dear Tim, Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 08:14:50 EDT Wishbone is a show that even i sit to watch with the kids!!! (They love it
and so di I) Gwendy Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 10:20:28 -0400 J J Tan wrote:
> :-) As if we have any say about wanting to come back or not. ;->
AH, but we do! It's all choice, right:-)? I think eventually essence feelscompelled/pressured to come back, but I think you can hang out longer inbetween lives if you are so inclined, and even come back and have what is referred to as a "resting life"....
> Put aside Truth, just appreciate the mystery that is called The Universe.
I like this. It validates what I was going to post, but thought it sounded too simple. I feel the unable-to-be--spoken trueness of things --well a tiny bit of what I know is enormous--when I am out in the yard, with my little daughter, just sitting and I can almost hear the trees breathe. There is a rightness to everything, a frozen moment and I know that the bigger SOMETHING is good and loving, and it's all running smoothly and I can melt into it if I want. Then I lose it and I am just normal again:-) Or something like that. Lynne T. 3rd level old scholar with a sage out there somewhere:-) "The heart has its reasons which the mind cannot know" --Pascal Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 09:13:04 -0700 I think PJ meant to send that post called "Tim's Plight" to sacred-sexuality-l@spiritweb.org. :^) That has been a pretty interesting list, although I haven't read anything on it for a few months now, or really any of the other lists for that matter... This Michael list just takes up all my spare time! ;-) Blessings, Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 19:38:35 EDT I don't recall if it's mentioned in of any of the books, but does anyone know the overleaves, soul age, of Chelsea Quinn Yarbro? Just curious... Thanks, Date: Sat, 16 May 1998 09:33:43 EDT Ooops!
I think PJ meant to send that post called "Tim's Plight" to sacred-sexuality-l@spiritweb.org. :^)
Date: Sat, 16 May 98 18:38:19 UT Hey Caris, let me add my name to the list of congratulators! I love Wishbone. I thought the Wishbone version of "Pride and Prejudice" very nearly equal to the recent A&E version. I like how they tie the stories to modern-day predicaments that kids might face. Well done! -----<--{@ Jody Date: Sat, 16 May 98 18:50:16 UT Hello all, I just had a channeling through Sarah and got this: Q. I'd like more information on the "peaks and valleys" concept of the fourth internal monad. Do they correspond to the seven levels within each soul age? A. Well, you could say that they correspond to the seven levels within the soul age. That is, valley number one is a service level, peak number one is a creative level, and so on. However, that is just about as much similarity as there is. The seven levels within the soul age are very linear in terms of progress, whereas the seven levels within the monad are very multi-dimensional in that there are phases where you will feel as though you have lost ground and are making no progress at all, followed by a phase of almost exhilaration, followed by another plunge into the abyss. The fourth phase of the monad, however, is always a period of assimilation and integration, just as the fourth level of any soul age is. I also found out that my entity, the 2nd entity of my cadre according to Sarah's system, is made up of scholars, priests, and kings. ------<--{@ Jody Date: Sat, 16 May 98 19:10:29 UT I'd urge anyone who is dealing with any kind of chronic health issue to read Carolyn Myss. She's a medical intuitive who can see how people divert their energy away from their own bodies/needs to feed other people or to keep alive ideas and how they get blocked. Two of her books are "Anatomy of the Spirit" and "Why People Don't Heal (And How They Can." Or you can get her lectures on audio tapes - more expensive, but her personality comes through more and she is very funny and down-to-earth. Her works validates some of the Michael teachings too. She doesn't know about them (to my knowledge), but on her own she's figuring out much of the same things: the internal monads and that people come into each life with karmic agreements, for example. She's also cottoned on to the concept that everything occurs in 7s. (I think we're in a watershed time with all kinds of people FIGURING IT OUT right now . . .) I recently went to a Myss-trained intuitive in my area (on Michael's advice) and have had complete resolution of symptoms that were caused by a psychic wound I'd received. The intuitive was able to describe the circumstances of the wounding exactly, even though I told her nothing (at her request) before she scanned me, impressing this pragmatic Capricorn greatly. ------<--{@ Jody Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 07:11:22 -0400 Wisdomtalk in Cyberspace!!
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-- Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 07:47:57 -0400 An orchestra was going to broadcast some jazz live onto the net from a small room but discovered it didn't have enough band width. Ar, ar, ar, ar! -- Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 12:29:48 EDT Jody wrote:
I recently went to a Myss-trained intuitive in my area
Jody, is there a web list of her trained practitioners, so I could find one in my area? I ate up her tapes. They are engrossing and entertaining. Best, Date: Sun, 17 May 98 13:39:00 -0700 Has anybody picked up on the idea that Marilyn Monroe and Jon Benet Ramsey are the same fragment? I was just looking at an ad for a MM doll and the idea flashed. Any thoughts? Roles? Yours Ted Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 17:15:03 EDT Hi there Yep, I do, but the death threat is still too strong in my mind! Quinn is quite careful about revealing her overleaves, but I wil say she is a 3rd level old warrior in entity one of cadre one ( along with me and Sarah Chambers among others) Hope that helps some, Victoria Marina Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 17:33:26 -0400 Victoria wrote:
> Hi there
Just checking... did she really threaten you or someone else?
> Quinn is quite careful about revealing her overleaves, but I wil say she is a 3rd level
Why is she so careful? Overleaves are available to the universe. -- Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 17:41:07 EDT In a message dated 98-05-17 17:34:16 EDT, Ken writes:
Just checking... did she really threaten you or someone else?
Yarbro writes novels about vampires, Ken. I wouldn't press the issue, as you might end up spending the rest of your days wearing turtle-neck sweaters. Heh heh... Thanks for the info, Victoria. :-) Dave Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 22:06:28 -0500 [Note to the list: sorry if this posts twice. Spiritweb has been having a problem accepting my Netcom email address so I'm using an alternate account until I scrap Netcom and pick up something else.] Re this from Victoria:
Yep, I do, but the death threat is still too strong in my mind!
You know, I can see the warrior part, but the above (and other behaviors) would, I think, point more towards third level mature. Then you'd probably have to add Dominance, Caution and Skeptic. That's my guess, based entirely on heresay and observation, of course. [Perhaps, one day I'll meet her and change my opinion entirely. *I'm* available.] Which, I'm sure, leaves me open to an overleaf slander lawsuit. It's time to leave Yarbro's "Michael" tag (and its attendent litigation) behind. It never was a good choice to describe a causal plane entity. Granted, it will cause confusion, but it's not like there's so many of us that the word won't get around. Might be the best thing for the work. Kathryn N Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 20:20:21 -0700 (PDT) You wrote:
> Why People Don't Heal, Understanding the Intimate Language of Wounds
What a synchronicity. I am sitting here watching her video. Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 00:50:50 EDT Hi there again, Dominance? nope. caution? nope. skeptic? nope Quinn has experienced alot of external pressures since the writing of the books, including being threatened by fundamentalists on several different occasions. she has reasons to be careful, having written the books 25 years ago and on the cutting edge of getting this kind of information out to the world. She also is a respected science fiction/horror writer, and often others in that field look down on what they perceive as being 'New Age', and so she chose to remain quiet about her Michael work. Many people in the original groups prefer, their choice, to keep their identities anonymous, and so Quinn respected that as well. I have known Quinn for many years and respect the choice she has made. I am very glad that other original channels, like Sarah Chambers are now more available for outside contact. And by the way, Quinns goal is growth:) best regards Victoria Marina
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