I read Robert Monroe’s book, Journeys Out of the Body, and I found I have had similar experiences. They are scary. I’ve had those “vibrations”, and I could not move.
MANY TRAVELERS DO EXPERIENCE THESE PHENOMENA PRIOR TO LEAVING (the body). IF THERE IS FEAR, THEN THE TRIP IS POSTPONED. ASTRAL TRAVEL IS SOMETHING YOU MUST DESIRE IN ORDER FOR IT TO CONTINUE, ALTHOUGH IT IS WELL WITHIN THE GRASP OF YOU ALL.
Robert Monroe describes meeting other intelligences during astral travel. They seem to be overwhelming. Please comment if these were true experiences.
ESSENTIALLY, EXCEPT THAT THE MAN, ROBERT MONROE, CREATED THE IMMENSITY. ALSO HE FINDS IT STILL DIFFICULT TO CONFRONT CERTAIN ASTRAL REALITIES, AND PREFERS TO CREATE HIS OWN. HE IS, FOR THE MOST PART, AN EXCELLENT ASTRAL TRAVELER, BUT OTHER AREAS OF HIS SEARCH NEED MUCH WORK. YOU WILL BE OF HELP TO THIS MAN. THE HELP WILL BE RECIPROCAL. THE MAN, ROBERT MONROE, SENSES AN EXPERIENCE IS IN STORE FOR HIM, BUT DOES NOT KNOW THE SOURCE. THIS IS A MATURE PRIEST, A SPIRITUALIST.
Robert Monroe’s astral trips were nothing at all like a synthesis. He saw subhuman, fish-like creatures, nothing like Michael describes. I would like a comment on that, and also one on what Monroe describes as “sex after death” — that he describes as male and female “zapping” together, not with organs but something else.
ASTRAL MATTER IS EXTREMELY FLEXIBLE — “MALLEABLE” IS A BETTER TERM. YOU CAN DO WITH IT AS YOU LIKE. AS FOR THE ECSTATIC FEELINGS, THAT IS THE GOAL TOWARD WHICH WE WORK. HE WOULD HAVE TO CALL IT “SEXUAL” SINCE THIS IS THE ONLY EXPLANATION AVAILABLE TO HIM.
Have you ever meditated on astral material?
THERE ARE MANY TROUBLED SOULS ON THE LOW ASTRAL PLANE, AND CONTACT WITH THEM IS OFTEN DISTURBING, EVEN TO THE ADEPTS WHO TRAVEL THERE. FOR INSTANCE, MOST BABY SOULS CONTINUE TO THINK OF THEMSELVES AS “DEAD” UNTIL THEY TAKE ANOTHER BODY, AND THE ASTRAL FORM THEY ADOPT IS OFTEN GRUESOME. SOME OLD SOULS PLAY OUT A PARTICULARLY REMEMBERED LIFE OVER AND OVER, COMPLETE WITH COSTUMES, AND OFTEN STARTLE TRAVELERS NOT PREPARED FOR MEDIEVAL SPLENDOR.
Can Michael help us in the Monroe out-of-body experience so that we won’t have contact with the peculiar fish-like creatures or whatever?
YES, WE CAN HELP, BUT ONLY IF YOUR SENSE OF PREORDAINED FAILURE CAN SOMEHOW BE DISSIPATED.
Robert Monroe described meeting a mysterious group of entities on the astral plane. They apparently function on the physical plane, according to Monroe.
WE ARE HERE WITH YOU. FIRST, A COMMENT ON THE EXPERIENCES YOU JUST HAD. THIS SHOULD HAVE TOLD YOU MUCH ABOUT WHERE THE WORK IS, AND WHERE THE MOST ENORMOUS NEEDS LIE. WE WOULD SEE THIS PERPETUATED. THE MAN, ROBERT, IS CORRECT, THOUGH. THE INSTRUCTIONS ARE THERE.
Some of us slept through the entire experience.
YOU HEARD AND PERCEIVED EVEN THOUGH YOU INTERPRETED THIS AS SLEEP.
What about the mysterious entities which he describes in his book?
WE SEE NOTHING UNUSUAL HERE IN THIS. MATURE PRIESTS NIGHTLY ENCOUNTER WITH THE ESSENCES OF FINAL LEVEL OLD SOULS.
Are the Old souls aware of this consciously?
SOME ARE. THEY COME BY IT ACCIDENTALLY. IF THE OLD SOUL PURSUES ANYTHING, HE NORMALLY HAS SOME SUCCESSES. HIS ESSENCE IS RESTLESS AND CURIOUS. HE IS LIKE HAVING A FIVE YEAR OLD AT A SEMINAR.
Are some of them part of The Brotherhood?
SOME OF THEM ARE BROTHERS, NOT ALL.
Robert Monroe is setting up a communication system to enable those who wish to find him while astral traveling. Could we also set up a special frequency for something like this?
YES, THIS IS A POSSIBILITY — MORE A PROBABILITY. SOME OF THEM (Old souls) ARE, OF COURSE, LINKED TOGETHER ON THE PHYSICAL PLANE. ALSO, MOST OF THEM ARE EXPERIENCED AS ASTRAL TRAVELERS WHO DO THIS AT WILL FOR REASONS OF GROWTH AND REINTEGRATION.
Someone asked questions about overcoming resistance to the experience of astral travel.
THE BODY RESISTS THIS IN ALL OF YOU. WITH YOU, IT IS STRONGER NOW, SIMPLY BECAUSE THE BODY IS ALSO EXHAUSTED. IT WAS GETTING ITS NEEDS FULFILLED AND DID NOT WANT THE FEAR YOU WERE GIVING IT.
I was not aware of fear.
ONLY THE BODY FEARS [astral travel]. THE ESSENCE DOES NOT FEAR IT.
Robert Monroe stated that he felt as if he were a doorway or a pumping station for those desiring the astral experience.
HE IS A DOOR. YOU HAVE GIVEN HIM SOME INFORMATION THAT FITS SOME OF THE PUZZLE TOGETHER FOR HIM. MANY THINGS HE SEES, HE IS UNABLE TO INTERPRET, AND MANY MORE ARE OF HIS OWN CREATION. HIS NERVOUS REMARKS ABOUT HEAVEN AND HELL SHOULD HAVE TIPPED YOU OFF ON THIS.
Is he afraid of heaven and hell?
HE IS NOT, BUT HE IS ALSO NOT CERTAIN WHAT LIES BEHIND THE CURTAIN HE HAS PLACED BETWEEN HIMSELF AND THE HIGH PLANES. WHAT THE MAN ROBERT REFERS TO AS “FOCUS TEN” IS TWILIGHT SLEEP; “FOCUS TWELVE” IS ORDINARY SLEEP; “FOURTEEN” AND BEYOND ARE ASTRAL SLEEP STATES AND DREAM STATES.
Does this technique make it possible to remember?
YOU DO ANYWAY, BUT YOUR BUFFERS KNOCK OUT THE RECALL.
How does one eliminate buffers?
IF YOU ENCOUNTER A SITUATION THAT WOULD PRODUCE GUILT IN THE BODY, THE BODY WILL NOT ALLOW YOU TO REMEMBER, OR, AT LEAST, NOT WITH ANY PLEASURE. GUILT IS IN PERSONALITY, YES.
A statement was made concerning the EST process where a box is constructed mentally and problems are placed in it. (Robert Monroe used a similar technique in his tapes this weekend.)
WE WOULD SEE YOU ALL PUT YOUR PROBLEMS IN THE BOX AND LEAVE THEM THERE. WE WOULD TELL YOU ALSO THAT YOU CAN CLEVERLY CONSTRUCT A TRAP DOOR IN THE BOTTOM OF THE BOX AND CAN ELIMINATE THEM ALTOGETHER.
Robert Monroe talks about sex on the astral plane. Could you comment?
THIS ONLY PERTAINS TO ASTRAL TRAVELERS STILL IN THE BODY.
Someone asked about using John Lilly’s and Robert Monroe’s techniques together to have an out-of-body experience. Some in the group have had “accidental” out-of-body experiences and are interested in trying to use techniques in controlling the experiences by an act of will.
THE MOST VALUABLE TECHNIQUE WE KNOW OF IS TO CONSCIOUSLY TURN THE “ACCIDENT” INTO A DIRECTED VOYAGE. AS SOON AS YOU REALIZE THAT YOU HAVE LEFT THE PHYSICAL PLANE, BEGIN TO VISUALIZE WHERE YOU WISH TO GO, AND PUT YOUR POWERS OF CONCENTRATION INTO PLAY. IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO MONITOR THESE TRIPS WITH A RECORD MADE IMMEDIATELY UPON RETURN. BE CAREFUL WITH YOUR IMAGERY. VISUALIZE THE INTENDED TARGET CAREFULLY. DEVELOP AN EYE FOR DETAIL. THIS SPELLS SUCCESS.
THE TECHNIQUE OF HOLDING UP YOUR HAND IS A GOOD ONE FOR GETTING YOUR BEARINGS AND DETERMINING THE QUALITATIVE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ASTRAL TRAVEL AND ORDINARY DREAMING. THIS TECHNIQUE WAS SUGGESTED BY DON JUAN, BUT OTHERS HAVE USED IT SUCCESSFULLY. MONROE’S TECHNIQUES ARE EXCELLENT FOR DIRECTING YOUR SELF OUT OF THE BODY. THE MAN JOHN (Lilly) HAS TECHNIQUES FOR DIRECTING THE VOYAGE THAT ARE SOMETIMES SUCCESSFUL, BUT TRY THE SIMPLE TECHNIQUE FIRST UNTIL YOU ARE ACCUSTOMED TO THIS EXPERIENCE.
SOURCE: Michael Teachings Transcripts