https://www.michaelteachings.com/channeling/ Sun, 06 Sep 2026 05:22:54 +0000 Centers - Michael Teachings Channeling - Q & A en https://www.michaelteachings.com/channeling/discussion/334/centers-on-higher-planes Wed, 29 May 2013 13:00:39 +0000 Centers ubiquitous 334@/channeling/discussions Can we talk about Centers on higher planes being counterpart or analogous to something?

NOT REALLY. YOU SEE, THE NEED FOR THE ROLES IS A PHYSICAL ONE, BUT THE NEED OF CENTERING IS FOUND THROUGHOUT — AT LEAST IN OUR EXPERIENCE IT IS. WE HAVE ONLY THIS (causal) PLANE TO DRAW FROM IN REALITY, BUT WE HAVE EVIDENCE WHICH POINTS TO THE FACT THAT IT APPLIES TO THE HIGHER PLANES AS WELL.

SOURCE: Michael Teachings Transcripts]]> https://www.michaelteachings.com/channeling/discussion/324/does-fear-of-hurt-feelings-cause-avoidance-of-emotional-center Tue, 28 May 2013 21:04:11 +0000 Centers ubiquitous 324@/channeling/discussions Does fear of hurt feelings make people avoid Emotional Center?

MANY PEOPLE DO RUN FROM EVEN THE REMOTEST CHANCE OF REJECTION. REJECTION IS THE ONLY CAUSE OF TRUE EMOTIONAL PAIN IN THAT EVEN THE ESSENCE FEELS THIS. REJECTION ON THE ESSENCE LEVEL RARELY OCCURS, BUT WHEN IT DOES, THE RESULT IS DEVASTATING TO THE SOUL WHO IS REJECTED — EVEN THE MAN JESUS FELT THIS.
IN MOST HUMAN RELATIONSHIPS, ONE SOUL INVESTS MUCH MORE THAN THE OTHER. WE CAN THINK OF NO EXAMPLE, EXCEPT IN THE CASE OF ESSENCE TWINS WITH COMPATIBLE BODYTYPES, WHERE THIS DOES NOT OCCUR. IN OTHER WORDS, IN EVERY RELATIONSHIP ON THE PHYSICAL PLANE, SOMEONE IS GOING TO FEEL REJECTED AT SOME POINT.

SOURCE: Michael teachings Transcripts]]> https://www.michaelteachings.com/channeling/discussion/311/centers-and-chakras Mon, 27 May 2013 16:43:19 +0000 Centers ubiquitous 311@/channeling/discussions Is there a correlation between energy Centers and chakras?

WHEN ONE BECOMES BALANCED THERE IS TREMENDOUS CORRELATION, YES, FOR YOU FEEL THE USE OF THE ENERGY IN THESE SPOTS DESCRIBED AS, OR CALLED, CHAKRAS, WITH THE HIGHER INTELLECTUAL CENTER BEING, OF COURSE, ANALOGOUS TO THE HIGHEST CHAKRA OR THE CHAKRA OF LIBERATION THAT PLACES IT ABOVE THE PHYSICAL BODY. ALL THE CHAKRAS WOULD BE FELT AS ENERGY CENTERS, YES. AT THE MOMENT THAT THE EMOTIONAL CENTER WAS RESPONDING TO AN APPROPRIATE SITUATION, THIS WOULD BE FELT IN THE “GUT” CHAKRA.

SOURCE: Michael Teachings Transcripts]]> https://www.michaelteachings.com/channeling/discussion/310/centers-and-inappropriate-reactions Mon, 27 May 2013 16:39:51 +0000 Centers ubiquitous 310@/channeling/discussions What part of the brain would correspond to the Centers? Is it a set, a gestalt, or what?

MORE THAN ANYTHING THIS (balanced Centering) CAN BE SEEN AS AN APPROPRIATE REACTION TO THE SITUATION. IN THE CASE OF THE LOWER CENTERS IT MEANS THAT THERE IS NO LEAKING OF ENERGY AND FATIGUE BUILDUP AS A RESULT. YOU SEE, IF YOU RESPOND TO AN INTELLECTUAL SITUATION WITH AN EMOTIONAL REACTION, IT IS USUALLY TOTALLY INAPPROPRIATE, AND IT COMES NOT FROM EMOTIONAL CENTER, BUT USUALLY FROM THE EMOTIONAL PART OF THE CENTER IN WHICH YOU SPEND YOUR LIFE. IF YOU RESPOND TO AN EMOTIONAL SITUATION IN A MOVING CENTERED WAY, THERE IS A TREMENDOUS DOWNWARD RELEGATION OF ENERGY, AND FATIGUE FOLLOWS. YOU CAN READILY DETERMINE WRONG USE OF CENTERS IN YOURSELF BY THE WAY THAT YOU FEEL AFTER THE SITUATION HAS PASSED. IF YOU ARE TIRED, ANGRY OR ANY OF THOSE NEGATIVE THINGS, YOU CAN BE SURE THAT WRONG USE OF CENTERS IS TO BLAME. IF YOU FEEL HIGH, ELATED, JOYOUS, ETCETERA, THEN PERHAPS GOOD USE OF CENTERS HAS OCCURRED. ANY SITUATION THAT PRODUCES A NEGATIVE REACTION IS WRONG USE OF CENTERS, AND THEREFORE WRONG WORK FOR STUDENTS ON THIS PATH. THIS IS WHY WE ASK THAT YOU LOOK AT YOUR NEGATIVE REACTIONS, EVEN IN RETROSPECT, AND DETERMINE WHAT HAPPENED TO YOUR ENERGY WHEN YOU EXPRESSED. CENTERING, OR BALANCE, IS, ABOVE ALL, APPROPRIATE. THAT IS WHAT IT MEANS — THE LOSS OF ALL OF THESE UNREASONABLE LAPSES IN THE VOLITION. WHEN YOU REACT NEGATIVELY, YOU ARE CERTAINLY NOT IN CONTROL — YOUR FALSE PERSONALITY IS IN CONTROL. THE TRUE PERSONALITY OF THE ESSENCE MERELY LOOKS AT THE SCRIPT AND MAKES THE APPROPRIATE RESPONSE AT THE MOMENT IT IS CALLED FOR — FROM THE CENTER EQUIPPED TO HANDLE THAT SITUATION WITH DISPASSION.

How can one tell whether one is in a negative pole of an appropriate Center, or if one is in the wrong Center entirely?

WHATEVER PORTION OF A CENTER PROVIDES AN ENTRAPMENT FOR THE SOUL WHO IS STILL A VICTIM OF HIS OVERLEAVES BECOMES THE NEGATIVE POLE OF THAT CENTER. ALL CREATURES OF REASON HAVE THIS IN COMMON — YOU ARE NOT ALONE. THIS IS FOR MANY A NO-EXIT SITUATION, AND BECOMES WRONG WORK, BUT STILL NOT WHOLLY INAPPROPRIATE, AS IN THE EXAMPLE GIVEN. IT IS STILL AN EMOTIONAL REACTION TO AN EMOTIONAL SITUATION OR A SEXUAL REACTION TO A SEXUAL SITUATION. WE WOULD CALL IT UNSCHOOLED RATHER THAN INAPPROPRIATE. IT IS NOT INAPPROPRIATE, FOR INSTANCE, FOR YOUR CHILDREN IN THIS CULTURE TO GIGGLE AT SALACIOUS PICTURES, AND THIS IS AN APPROPRIATE REACTION FROM AN UNSCHOOLED CENTER.

IN ORDER TO BECOME SUCCESSFUL IN LIFE IN THIS CULTURE, IT IS USUALLY ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY TO ACT OUT OF THE NEGATIVE POLES OF CENTERS. IN ORDER TO SURVIVE, SOME OF THE NEGATIVE POLES OF THE OVERLEAVES PRODUCE BEHAVIOR THAT IS LAUDABLE BY THE CULTURE. FOR INSTANCE, MOTHERS IN THE NEGATIVE POLE OF DOMINANCE ARE OFTEN ADMIRED FOR THEIR UNFLAGGING DEVOTION TO THEIR CHILDREN. HOWEVER, WHAT PRODUCES SUCCESS IN LIFE PRODUCES FAILURE IN A TEACHING, FOR THE VERY VISIBLE REASON THAT THE GOALS ARE DIAMETRICALLY OPPOSED.

Someone asked for a comment on something new happening within her. Is it awareness of misCentering or is it learning to use the correct Center?

YOU ARE NOW BEGINNING TO PHOTOGRAPH WRONG USE OF CENTERS IN YOURSELF AND OTHERS. IT IS STILL A BIT RETROSPECTIVE, BUT IT IS GOOD WORK. IN ORDER TO USE THE APPROPRIATE CENTER YOU MUST BE CONSTANTLY ALERT. IN ORDER TO USE THE APPROPRIATE CENTER, YOU MUST BE AHEAD OF THE GAME, AT LEAST AHEAD OF YOUR HUMAN BRAIN, THE GREAT COMPUTER THAT PLUGS IN ALL THE TAPES.

Are there any other surprises in Centers?

NEGATIVE REACTIONS OF ANY TYPE ARE ARTIFACTS AND NEED NOT BE EXPERIENCED NOR ACTED UPON BY ADVANCED STUDENTS. THERE ARE NO SURPRISES OTHER THAN WHAT WE HAVE GIVEN. STOICS WHO ARE TRAPPED IN THE EMOTIONAL CENTER REACT VERY DIFFERENTLY THAN DO, SAY, IDEALISTS. LOOK TO THE OVERLEAVES WHEN REACTIONS OCCUR FIRST. CHANCES ARE THAT THE PERSONALITY IS TO BLAME AND NOT THE CENTER. MANY REACTIONS TO THE PAST AND THE GLORIES OF IT ARE FROM THE [negative poles of the] OVERLEAVES, NOT THE CENTERS — ALL TAPES [recordings in false personality], IN OTHER WORDS. IN FACT, ANY RUMINATIONS ABOUT THE PAST OR THE FUTURE MUST COME FROM THE PERSONALITY.

SOURCE: Michael Teachings Transcripts]]> https://www.michaelteachings.com/channeling/discussion/235/intellectual-center Sun, 26 May 2013 00:17:01 +0000 Centers ubiquitous 235@/channeling/discussions How can I tell when I’m in the Intellectual Center?

THERE IS A VAST DIFFERENCE IN THE SHEER EXPENDITURE OF ENERGY. THOSE WHO ARE TRAPPED IN THE MOVING CENTER EXPEND MORE PHYSICAL ENERGY THAN THOSE IN THE MOVING PART OF INTELLECTUAL CENTER. THE ENERGY SPENT IS OF A DIFFERENT QUALITY. OFTEN THE BODY IS NOT TIRED EVEN THOUGH TREMENDOUS AMOUNTS OF INTELLECTUAL ENERGY IS SPENT, CAUSING THE PERSON TO EXPEND FAR BEYOND ITS INTELLECTUAL CAPACITY FOR ACHIEVEMENT. HOWEVER, IN MOVING CENTERED SOULS THE REVERSE IS OFTEN TRUE. THEY SELDOM ARE ABLE TO WORK TO FULL INTELLECTUAL CAPACITY BECAUSE THE BODY TIRES SO RAPIDLY. ONCE THE BODY GOES TO SLEEP, THEN MECHANICAL MAN HAS LOST HIS HOLD ON THE INTELLECTUAL FUNCTIONING.

How could I tell if I am in Intellectual Center?

BY HER ABILITY TO WORK STEADILY ON AN INTELLECTUALLY BASED PROJECT, NOT IN FITS AND STARTS SUCH AS SHE DOES NOW.

How can I get in touch with Intellectual Center?

THIS WILL BE THE MOST DIFFICULT FOR YOU, AND FOR ALL OTHERS IN THE CENTERING YOU ARE IN, AS IT INVOLVES SINGLE-MINDED CONCENTRATION, AND APPLICATION OF NON-JUDGMENTAL LOGIC. READING VERY STUDIOUS WORKS HAS DONE IT FOR OTHER STUDENTS. CONTINUOUS STUDY WILL ALSO DO IT. THE DETERMINING FACTOR IS THE BOREDOM FACTOR. AS SOON AS BOREDOM CREEPS IN, THE EMOTIONAL CENTER HAS CREPT IN TOO. BOREDOM IS SIMPLY NOT INTELLECTUALLY POSSIBLE. IT IS A LOWER EMOTIONAL FUNCTION. MOST OF THE TIME, IN FACT, IT IS A FUNCTION OF THE EMOTIONAL PART OF MOVING CENTER.

SOURCE: Michael Teachings Transcripts]]> https://www.michaelteachings.com/channeling/discussion/200/moving-center-and-parts Sat, 25 May 2013 02:33:30 +0000 Centers ubiquitous 200@/channeling/discussions I would like to have more on the Moving Center and a description of the Moving part of Moving Center and the Emotional part of Moving Center.

WE DO RECALL THAT WE COVERED THIS, BUT WILL REITERATE BRIEFLY. THE SOUL THAT IS MOVING CENTERED ACTS OUT IN LIFE IN AN ACTION MODE. THIS, OF COURSE, MEANS THAT ONE TRAPPED IN THE EMOTIONAL PART OF MOVING CENTER WILL REACT TO A MOVING SITUATION WITH SOME TYPE OF PHYSICAL RESPONSE, SUCH AS DANCING WITH JOY, ETC. THE SOUL TRAPPED IN THE INTELLECTUAL PART OF MOVING CENTER WILL OFTEN RAMBLE FAR AFIELD IN THE SEARCH FOR KNOWLEDGE. THE SOUL IN THE MOVING PART OF MOVING CENTER APPEARS OFTEN AS A DRIVEN SOUL.

SOURCE: Michael Teachings Transcripts]]> https://www.michaelteachings.com/channeling/discussion/191/emotional-center Sat, 25 May 2013 01:19:34 +0000 Centers ubiquitous 191@/channeling/discussions Give an example of what happens in the Emotionally Centered person.

THE EMOTIONALLY CENTERED INDIVIDUALS OFTEN COMPLAIN OF “BUTTERFLIES” IN THE STOMACH IN TIMES OF STRESS OR EXCITEMENT. MANY TIMES INTESTINAL CRAMPS FOLLOW EXTREME STRESS; MORE SUSCEPTIBLE TO DIARRHEA AND CONSTIPATION ALSO. INTELLECTUALLY CENTERED SOULS OFTEN COUGH IN MOMENTS OF STRESS, CLEAR THE THROAT, ETC.

About tears and the Emotional center.

TEARS ARE, OF COURSE, THE OUTWARD MANIFESTATION OF A WORKING EMOTIONAL CENTER. IF THE TEARS ARE SHED FOR NO REASON, IN OTHER WORDS, THEY ARE CROCODILE TEARS, YOU CAN BE SURE THAT THE SOUL IS EMOTIONALLY
CENTERED. INTELLECTUALLY CENTERED SOULS SIMPLY DO NOT CRY FROM INTELLECTUAL CENTER NO MATTER HOW TRYING THE SITUATION MIGHT BE. IN ADOLESCENT FEMALES ON THIS PLANET, THE TEARS ARE SOMETIMES A LEARNED RESPONSE, AND HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH EMOTIONS. THIS IS NOT TO SAY THAT UNBALANCED EMOTIONALLY CENTERED SOULS CANNOT CRY, FOR GOOD REASON: IT IS SIMPLY THAT THIS IS THEIR MOST FREQUENT RESPONSE, AND SOMETIMES IS EQUIVALENT TO THE BOY CRYING WOLF SO MANY TIMES THAT EVENTUALLY NO ONE ANSWERS. THE WOLVES GOBBLED HIM UP.

Am I in Emotional Center when I am meditating? It seems like I am simply perceiving.

SOMETIMES IT IS HIGHER EMOTIONAL CENTER AND THIS CAN BE REFERRED BACK TO THE TRIANGLES. EMOTIONAL CENTER, WHEN IT IS NOT THE TRAP, ACTS MERELY AS A BAROMETER, SENSING THE VARIANCES AROUND. THIS INCLUDES THE DANGERS AND THE ANGER, THE JOY AND THE PAIN BEING BEAMED ABOUT. THIS CENTER MAKES NO JUDGMENT ON THIS INFORMATION AND CANNOT REACT TO ANY SITUATION WHEN IT IS BEING USED IN TANDEM WITH THE OTHER CENTERS. WHEN IT IS THE TRAP, IT IS UTILIZED MUCH AS THE OTHER CENTERS, HAVING THEN A THINKING, REACTING AND ACTING PART.

PLEASE, STUDENTS, THINK! THIS DOES NOT DIFFER FROM THE OTHER CENTERS. BALANCED MAN THINKS WITH THE INTELLECTUAL CENTER, PERCEIVES WITH EMOTIONAL CENTER, AND ACTS WITH THE MOVING CENTER. THE DIVISIONS NO LONGER HOLD [when you are in] IN BALANCE.

Then it is not Emotional Center that feels “happiness” when I see a beautiful sunset? The group thought, no, that it came from Intellectual Center making the judgment of beauty.

DO NOT MISUNDERSTAND. THERE IS NO BAD WORK CONNECTED WITH JUDGING A SUNSET AS BEAUTIFUL. IT IS SIMPLY NOT THE WORK OF A BAROMETER, BUT OF THE REACTING PART OF INTELLECT THAT PREFERS SUNSETS TO DEAD RATS.

Source: Michael Teachings Transcripts]]> https://www.michaelteachings.com/channeling/discussion/186/getting-to-higher-centers Tue, 21 May 2013 22:49:38 +0000 Centers ubiquitous 186@/channeling/discussions Can you tell us how to get to higher Centers?

TO GET TO HIGHER CENTERS, DO WHAT JESUS DID: FASTING, MEDITATION AND AGONIZING SELF-APPRAISAL. EXERCISE THE BODY, LEARN TO LOVE UNSELFISHLY. THIS IS HARD TO DO, BUT IT CAN BE ACHIEVED BY INTELLECTUALLY APPREHENDING THE FACT THAT NO OTHER CREATURE OWES YOU ANYTHING, AND THEN MATERIALLY OBTAINING WHAT YOU NEED THROUGH YOUR OWN RESOURCES. EMOTIONAL ACCEPTANCE WILL ONLY COME ABOUT WHEN THE EXPECTATIONS HAVE CEASED. JESUS HAD NO ASPIRATIONS OF HIS STUDENTS. IN FACT, HE KNEW THAT HE WOULD FAIL THE MOST DISMALLY IN HIS MISSION TO THOSE CLOSEST TO HIM. YET HE PERSISTED IN HIS EFFORTS. FOR HIS OWN GROWTH, IT WAS MORE IMPORTANT TO EXPRESS THE HIGHER GOOD THAN IT WAS THAT THOSE AROUND HIM ABSORB IT. MANY DID ABSORB — MANY MORE NOW THAN THEN. EVEN IF YOU FEEL THAT GOOD EFFORTS ARE BEING WASTED, CONTINUE. POSITIVE ENERGY IS NEVER WASTED. SOMEBODY ALWAYS ABSORBS IT.

SOURCE: Michael Teachings Transcripts
]]> https://www.michaelteachings.com/channeling/discussion/162/comments-on-the-centers Tue, 21 May 2013 00:42:12 +0000 Centers ubiquitous 162@/channeling/discussions Could Michael comment on the Centers and how Moving Center is romanticized, and how the cosmic is romanticized?

WE WILL BRING THE MORE CONCISE DEFINITION TO YOU. THE KEYNOTE WITH INTELLECTUAL CENTER IS, OF COURSE, RATIONALIZATION. THE INTELLECTUAL PART, OF COURSE, IS CAPABLE OF OBJECTIVE RATIONALIZATION, THE EMOTIONAL PART OF SUBJECTIVE RATIONALIZATION, AND THE MOVING PART OF PRACTICAL, MATERIALISTIC RATIONALIZATION. THE PERSON TRAPPED IN THE MOVING PART OF INTELLECTUAL CENTER IS USUALLY PRACTICAL TO A FAULT, AND WHATEVER FRUITS ARE HARVESTED ARE USUALLY IN THIS VEIN. WHATEVER THEY PURSUE — WHETHER IT BE MEDICINE, THE LAW, OR HOUSEWIFERY — THESE SOULS ARE PREPARED THROUGH METICULOUS RESEARCH FOR ANY AND ALL EVENTUALITY. THEY SPEND MUCH ENERGY IN THEIR RESEARCHES, AND NOT EVEN THE SIMPLEST TASK IS PERFORMED WITHOUT THE RITUAL OF RESEARCHING THEM CAREFULLY. ALL OF THEIR INTELLECTUAL ENDEAVORS MUST BE IMMEDIATELY OR AT LEAST CLEAR-CUT UTILITARIAN VALUE [sic]. ON THE OTHER HAND, THE SOUL TRAPPED IN THE INTELLECTUAL PART OF MOVING CENTER “ATTACKS” KNOWLEDGE WITH A VIGOR THAT IS VIRTUALLY UNEXCELLED. KNOWLEDGE IS A MOUNTAIN TO BE SCALED AND CONQUERED.

What are the characteristics of the Moving part of Emotional Center?

IT IS MOVEMENT ROMANTICIZED. THE MOVEMENT BECOMES THE LOVE OBJECT. MOST DANCERS, SUCH AS THE MAN, RUDOLPH [Nureyev], ARE TRAPPED HERE.

Are those who sit around and watch trapped here?

MANY TIMES THIS IS TRUE — DEPENDING ON THE ENERGY LEVEL PRESENT. THE SPECTATORS DO DRAW THOUGH FROM THE ACTION ON THE FIELD. BY THE SAME TOKEN, SOME MOVERS, SUCH AS AGAIN PROFESSIONAL DANCERS, ARE TRAPPED IN THE EMOTIONAL PART OF MOVING CENTER, WHERE EMOTION MUST BE EXPRESSED THROUGH MOVEMENT.

Are some intellectual scholars trapped in the Intellectual part of Intellectual Center?

IT IS POSSIBLE TO BE TRAPPED HERE, AND YES, YOU ARE RIGHT. MANY OF THE THEORETICAL SCIENTISTS ARE INDEED IMMIRED IN THE INTELLECTUAL PART OF INTELLECTUAL CENTER. THIS IS A ROUTE TO HIGHER CENTERS WHEN THERE IS BALANCE. THE MAN, EDWARD TELLER, IS ALMOST HOPELESSLY TRAPPED IN THE EMOTIONAL PART OF MOVING CENTER.

Will getting the Moving Center into action help with relaxation and meditation?

THAT IS VALID, AND WE FEEL A POSITIVE STEP. THE RELAXATION WILL ALSO COME FAR MORE EASILY TO THE TIRED BODY. THERE IS ALSO A DRIVE IN MANY STUDENTS TO INVOLVE THEMSELVES HEAVILY IN WHAT THEY CONSIDER “USEFUL” ACTIVITY. SOMETIMES THIS CAN BE USED AS A GOOD GUIDE TO WHERE THE WORK IS.

Comment: In other words, take a look at the activities one uses just to fill the hours.

FOR INSTANCE, MANY WHO ARE TRAPPED IN THE INTELLECTUAL PART OF INTELLECTUAL CENTER MUST INVOLVE THEMSELVES ONLY IN INTELLECTUALLY STIMULATING AND REWARDING EXPERIENCES. MANY TRAPPED IN MOVING CENTER ARE CONSTANTLY “DOING THINGS”, AND CONSIDER ALL ELSE RATHER FRIVOLOUS. SOULS TRAPPED IN EMOTIONAL CENTER FIND IT DIFFICULT TO SIT THROUGH AN EVENING OF “HEAD STUFF”, OR THEY ALSO DISLIKE THE MODERN DANCING, AND [other dancing] WHERE THERE IS LITTLE BODY CONTACT AND MUCH WILD GYRATIONS.

Could we have something on the Moving part of Emotional Center?

THE “LOVE OF ACTION”. THESE SOULS MAKE IDEAL SPECTATORS, AND WILL YELL THEMSELVES HOARSE AT ALL SPECTATOR EVENTS. THEY RARELY PARTICIPATE, BUT [they] WILL DRIVE HUNDREDS OF MILES TO SPEND A WEEKEND AT A SKI LODGE. THE ROMANCE OF MOVEMENT PREVAILS HERE WITH LITTLE ACTIVE PARTICIPATION.

It has been said that the Intellectual part of Emotional Center is the seat of the “magnetic center” [another Gurdjieff term for that within yourself that draws you to the spiritual path] for [spiritual] teachings. Is this so?

THAT IS VALID. IT ALSO PRODUCES THE TOP HISTORIANS AND SOCIAL SCIENTISTS, MOST WRITERS AND JOURNALISTS, MANY WAR CORRESPONDENTS, ANTHROPOLOGISTS, AND ARCHAEOLOGISTS. IN THIS [emotional] PART THE INTELLECT IS ROMANTICIZED.

I would like to ask about someone who leads a simple, healthy life in essence. He uses his Moving Center and enjoys what he does.

THIS MAN NOW HAS ACCESS TO THE SUM OF THE MOVING CENTER. HE NEEDS ONLY TO PURSUE HIS PRESENT LINE OF INTERNAL QUESTIONING TO COME INTO BALANCE.

Would this be good for me, to reach the Moving part of Emotional Center?

YES, THAT WOULD BE A GOOD START FOR YOU. THIS IS, OF COURSE, THE “COSMIC” ROMANTICIZED. THE ROUTE TO SUBJECTIVE CONSCIOUSNESS IS MORE EASILY ATTAINABLE THROUGH THE EMOTIONAL CENTER. THE ROUTE TO FULL OBJECTIVE CONSCIOUSNESS IS NOT NORMALLY ACHIEVED BY THOSE ON THE PHYSICAL PLANE. THAT IS NORMALLY A PHENOMENON OF THE TRANSCENDENTAL SOUL.

I think Ouspensky was said not to be subjectively conscious. Was he trapped in the Intellectual Center?

HE WAS NOT SUBJECTIVELY CONSCIOUS. HE WAS TRAPPED IN INTELLECTUAL CENTER; THAT IS VALID. THIS WAS A FIFTH LEVEL OLD SAGE WHO WAS A GOOD STUDENT.

would like to ask how to bring the perceptions of the Emotional Center and those of the Intellectual Center together to be balanced. Perceptions seems so limited: there is so much input and only one thing seems to get through.

OF COURSE, THE PERCEPTIONS OF ONE TRAPPED IN THE INTELLECTUAL CENTER ARE GOING TO BE BASED UPON WHAT IS THOUGHT, AND WILL BE LARGELY ANALYSIS OF THE PERCEPTION RATHER THAN A PERCEPTION AT ALL. THE PERCEPTION ITSELF WILL BE LOST IN THE ANALYSIS. THE PERCEPTIONS OF ONE LOST IN THE EMOTIONAL CENTER WILL BE SWAMPED BY THE FEELINGS SURROUNDING THE MOMENT, AND AGAIN THE PERCEPTION ITSELF WILL BE LOST TO SIGHT. THIS IS WHAT IS MEANT, OF COURSE, BY NOT EXPERIENCING ONE’S EXPERIENCES. THOSE TRAPPED IN THE MOVING CENTER WILL BE ALREADY PLANNING OR CARRYING OUT SOME ACTION SURROUNDING THE PERCEPTION BEFORE IT HAS TIME TO REGISTER. NO MECHANICAL MAN IS ABLE TO APPRECIATE ANY EXPERIENCE FULLY BECAUSE OF THIS. ALL PERCEPTIONS ARE, OF COURSE, STORED, AND CAN BE RECALLED BY THE BALANCED MAN IF NEED BE. IN ORDER TO PERCEIVE AND EXPERIENCE A MOMENT IN TIME, ALL CENTERS MUST BE WORKING (CORRECTLY).

Something will happen and later I will think about it, and evoke emotions which were not there in the original happening. How is it that I can have emotions in retrospect? It must be that they are there to begin with, but I don’t feel them.

MOST OF THE FEELINGS YOU DESCRIBE COME FROM THE EMOTIONAL PART OF INTELLECTUAL CENTER, WHICH IS ALWAYS INVOLVED IN ANALYSIS IN YOUR CASE.

In a balanced person, should the Intellectual Center be shut down until there is an actual problem to be solved?

THE INTELLECTUAL CENTER SHOULD BE FUNCTIONING AS A DECISION-MAKING PARTNER IN THE PROCESS. THE EMOTIONAL CENTER CANNOT MAKE DECISIONS PROPERLY, AS IT CANNOT THINK OUT THE RAMIFICATIONS OF ANY GIVEN SITUATION WITH THE SPEED NECESSARY TO MAKE A VALID, SPLIT-SECOND DECISION. THE INTELLECTUAL CENTER WORKS AT A FAR GREATER SPEED THAN DOES THE EMOTIONAL CENTER WHEN THE SOULS IS IN BALANCE. IN MECHANICAL MAN, THE MOVING CENTER TAKES OVER THE RAPID FUNCTIONS. THIS IS, OF COURSE, NECESSARY FOR SURVIVAL OF THE BODY, AS WHEN A HAND IS REMOVED FROM A HOT STOVE BY THE MOVING CENTER IN COOPERATION WITH THE INSTINCTIVE CENTER. IN BALANCED MAN, THE INTELLECTUAL CENTER CLAIMS ITS RIGHTFUL FUNCTIONING AND BECOME THE DECISION MAKER. IN OTHER WORDS, BALANCED MAN CHOOSES TO REMOVE THE HAND.

It seems to me that the Emotional Center knows the truth better than the Intellectual Center.

ESSENCE KNOWS TRUTH, AND ESSENCE MOST OFTEN MANIFESTS THROUGH EMOTIONAL CENTER IN GOOD STUDENTS. THIS IS PRIMARILY BECAUSE TRUTH IS NOT OFTEN READILY BELIEVED BY INTELLECTUAL CENTER — IT IS JUST NOT RATIONAL.

Someone asked about centering, and what force makes one achieve balance.

THE ACHIEVEMENT OF BALANCE IS AN ACT OF WILL. THE FORCE BEHIND IT IS THE COMBINED ENERGIES OF THE TRUE “CENTER OF GRAVITY” [a Gurdjieff term] WITHIN YOU. YOU ALWAYS HAVE THIS ENERGY, BUT NORMALLY YOU ALLOW IT TO DISSIPATE UNUSED. WHEN YOU WORK TOWARD BALANCE, YOU LEARN TO CONSERVE THIS ENERGY AND DIVERT IT INTO THE WORK. THIS ENERGY DOES NOT RUN OUT, BY THE WAY. IT IS PART OF THE NEUTRAL UNIVERSAL FLOW AND IS INFINITE. YOU MUST LEARN TO TAP IT, HOWEVER. YOUR CENTERS OF GRAVITY ARE NOW TOP HEAVY, OR OFF TRUE CENTER. WHEN YOU GO TO BALANCE IT IS CENTERED — ERGO, BALANCED; NOT VERY MYSTICAL, BUT FAR MORE PRACTICAL. THERE IS NO LEAKAGE OF ENERGY IN BALANCED MAN, AND ALL OF THIS ENERGY CAN BE DIVERTED INTO THE [spiritual] WORK — WHETHER THIS BE MEDITATION, CONCENTRATION OR STUDY. THE TRAP INTO WHICH MOST FALL IS SIMPLY A CONTINUATION OF HABIT PATTERNS PICKED UP EARLY IN LIFE. THIS HAPPENS IN PART BECAUSE OF THE MODELS THAT AN ADOLESCENT OBSERVES. THERE IS BENEATH THAT A CHOSEN DIRECTION OF FLOW, BUT UNFORTUNATELY, THIS CAN BE OVERRIDDEN EASILY BY THE INFLUENCES; FOR INSTANCE: A HYSTERICAL PARENT, A PARENT WITH SERIOUS DISSEMBLANCE, A PARENT WHO IS UNDULY STERN. THE DIRECTION THEN TAKES A REACTIVE TURN AND THE TRAP IS EXCHANGED FOR ANOTHER. WITH STUDENTS THEN, THERE IS ANOTHER PITFALL. THEY BEGIN TO GO TOWARD BALANCE, FIND NEW EXPERIENCES, AND MAKE A SUBLIMINAL CHOICE TO STAY THERE BECAUSE IT IS A RICHER EXPERIENCE. THIS IS AS IN THE CASE OF JOHANNE (Bach).

SOURCE: Michael Teachings Transcripts]]> https://www.michaelteachings.com/channeling/discussion/148/negative-side-of-centers Mon, 20 May 2013 23:36:31 +0000 Centers ubiquitous 148@/channeling/discussions Could Michael comment on the negative sides of Centers? Is there a negative side to each Center?

THIS IS, OF COURSE, VALID. THINK OF THE HYSTERICAL ENTRAPMENT IN EMOTIONAL CENTER. THE MAN ADOLPH [Hitler] WAS TRAPPED IN THE MOVING PART OF EMOTIONAL CENTER. ALL OF THE PSYCHONEUROSES ARE DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE NEGATIVE HALF OF THE CENTERING. THAT WHICH LEADS SOULS TO LIVE ABOVE AND OUTSIDE THE LAW OF THE LAND, ALL OF THE VIOLENCE DIRECTED AGAINST OTHER CREATURES — THESE COMBINED WITH THE OTHER OVERLEAVES PRODUCE THIS. YOU CAN TAKE TWO SOULS WITH THE SAME OVERLEAVES EXCEPT FOR CENTERING AND QUITE DRASTIC DIFFERENCES WILL OCCUR IN THE LIFESTYLE. THIS IS WHY WE FEEL THAT SOME COMPARISON OF HISTORICAL SOULS WILL PROVE TO BE A VALUABLE EXPERIENCE, EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE NO LONGER EXTANT. THE MAN, ADOLPH, AND THE YOUNGER, SCIPIO AFRICANUS, HAD VIRTUALLY THE SAME OVERLEAVES SAVE FOR CENTERING. IT IS INTERESTING THAT THEY DIFFERED ONLY IN THE MAN, ADOLPH’S, PENCHANT FOR GENOCIDE.

SOURCE: Michael Teachings Transcripts]]> https://www.michaelteachings.com/channeling/discussion/146/moving-center Mon, 20 May 2013 23:09:18 +0000 Centers ubiquitous 146@/channeling/discussions Georges Gurdjieff said that the only way to consciousness was through the Moving Center. When Peter Ouspensky was nearing his death he had premonitions of it, and revisited old places, and he advised everyone to abandon the system and start a new system based on what you want. Are there any comments?

THE MAN GEORGES WAS ACCURATE IN ASSESSING THE NEEDS OF MOST STUDENTS. YES, THIS [Moving Centered approach] CAN BE A WAY TOWARD BALANCE. THE MAN PETER [Ouspensky] GLIMPSED THE TRUTH IN THE NEED FOR A LIVING TEACHER WHO CAN RENDER THE TEACHING DYNAMIC. HE SAW CHANGE IN THE ATTITUDES AND THE “WANTS” OF HIS STUDENTS. THIS WAS AN INTELLECTUALLY CENTERED TEACHER WITH MOSTLY EMOTIONALLY CENTERED STUDENTS. THE MAN GEORGES WAS MOVING CENTERED IN THE BEGINNING, AND HAD MOSTLY INTELLECTUALLY CENTERED DISCIPLES. THIS HELPED HIM TO VERIFY THE NEED FOR BALANCE. HE AND PETER BOTH HAD A TENDENCY TO DEPRECATE EMOTIONAL CENTER, AND THE MAN PETER WENT EVEN FURTHER AND REFUSED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE VERY REAL NEED TO GROW TO THE POINT WHERE SEXUALITY CAN BE EXPRESSED THROUGH THE SEXUAL CENTER. THIS WAS DUE, FOR THE MOST PART, TO GUILTY INHIBITIONS. THE MAN GEORGES DID NOT HAVE THIS HANDICAP, BUT DID NOT GIVE EMOTIONAL CENTER QUITE THE STATUS IT DESERVED. BALANCE IS JUST THAT — A BALANCE OF ALL CENTERS. BUT, YES, MOST OF YOU ARE SUFFERING FROM PHYSICAL INERTIA [weak Moving Center].

SOURCE: Michael Teachings Transcripts]]> https://www.michaelteachings.com/channeling/discussion/98/centers-and-obesity Mon, 20 May 2013 12:26:25 +0000 Centers ubiquitous 98@/channeling/discussions Can Intellectually Centered people be obese? Are most people who are obese, Emotionally Centered?

THEY COULD, BUT THE FRAMEWORK USUALLY ONLY STRETCHES SO FAR, AND EMOTIONALLY CENTERED SOULS HAVE MORE FRAMEWORK TO WORK WITH. YES, ALL JOKING ASIDE, MOST OBESE SOULS ARE EMOTIONALLY CENTERED.

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