<NancyG> Please pull your thoughts together and
hold your energy within the group. Remember to stay hydrated. We are batteries
for the Michael energy and batteries need water. Michael, are we ready?
<jennifer> I have had a previous reading stating
that in and around the 1850"s my ex-husband and my self had shared a previous
life, in that life the roles were reversed and I was male and he-female, there
were children involved and in that life I owe him a karmic debt, which in this
life I am trying to repay, I would so greatly appreciate any and all
information you can give me on this subject, our names
would be a great start, how many children we had, etc...no detail is to small
<NancyG> Jennifer, there were four children
from this mating, three girls and one boy. The relationship with your husband
was one of intense body attraction, with some abrasiveness in personality.
This abrasiveness lead to the Karma that you are now trying to repay. In the
see-saw of great physical attraction versus irritation with daily living from
the abrading overleaves, there came a strong antipathy eventually that lead to
abuse. This is the karma you are now experiencing as a debt.
There can be no question that repayment is uppermost in your mind. Since you
are in reversed genders this time, the debt is one that may find you 'out of
synch' you might say. We are not saying that physical abuse is going to
balance the books in this situation, because that is not the case. We see that
you are concerned with the details of this former life, and knowing the
children is part of your question.
<NancyG> It is, however, somewhat irrelevant
to the karma payback. However, these are some of the items that may interest
you. The older girl was your closest among the children. You lavished
affection on this child/woman to the detriment of the other three. The second
girl was studious and somewhat distant both to you and to your wife. The boy
came next. He was companionable enough for you, eager to spend time with
Father, anxious always to please. The baby girl did not live to adulthood,
dying at the age of 11 of fever. Those of your children who reached
adulthood married, offered you the chance to be a grandfather nine times over.
You turned your affections away from your wife toward one or two of these
grandchildren, those of your oldest daughter. These family details have
nothing, however to do with the karma. They are simply part of this lifetime.
<jennifer> Karma cannot be forced can it? I feel
if I can better understand the debt I can then repay it, I would feel not so
angry at what he has done to me and our children in this lifetime.
<NancyG> This balance is being achieved in
this lifetime as a result of the imbalance created in the former life.
<jennifer> I see, thank you, it makes a
difference to me.
<NancyG> It is a question of coldness, is it
not? And a withdrawal of affection? This is how you were perceived in the
<jennifer> Yes, it does seem to me that way.
Which is what I have received in this lifetime.
<NancyG> There is a chance that you can
offset the situation by renewed efforts to breach the chasm that has opened
between you. We do not, however, hold out much hope that it will change much.
<jennifer> I would have to agree with my whole
heart on that. Though I have tried.
<NancyG> The repayment of karma is always
difficult, both for the debtor and the debtee.
<jennifer> I wish I could see it that way, I
<NancyG> We do not see that your current
husband will understand the scope or intent of the karma debtor.
<jennifer> No, he does not.
<NancyG> Therefore, we suggest that you use
the services of the astral to reach him on Essence level, to explain what you
are doing, that is receiving the debt you owe and acknowledging it. This is probably the only recourse
<jennifer> Thank you.
<DaveGregg> The next question is from KerryP.
<kerryp> My daughter Emery does not seem to get
enough restful sleep, constantly tossing and turning and waking up after short
periods. What is interfering here, and how can I help her?
<NancyG> Kerry, how old is your daughter?
<kerryp> 9 months.
<NancyG> We are aware of a difficulty in
breathing for this infant. It is not life threatening, and it does not appear
to be something that will endanger her. It is annoying more to you than to
her. It seems to us that time itself will cause the best cure. Her air
passages are smaller than they usually are at this ages and in sleep they tend
to close with mucus and also by folding a bit on themselves at times.
<NancyG> As the body grows, these passages
will also grow, offering more space for air and less tendency to partially
close. Unless there is bacteria present that irritates the membranes further,
we do not see this as something that you will need to attend to in any
deliberate way. If you can be sure that the air in the room is not
extraordinarily dry, that is the most that you might consider at this time. If
the infant develops respiratory distress, as in the common cold, or other
clogging kinds of interference, then it will be necessary to seek professional
<kerryp> Thank you.
<DaveGregg> Note: Kerry, since I suffer from
sleep apnea myself, let me just add that you might consider having the child
undergo a sleep study.
<kerryp> Yes, I had thought of that. We've been
trying to figure this out for awhile now. Apnea is very common on both sides
of our family
<kerryp> Thanks, Dave.
<NancyG> Maria's question?
<Elo-Maria> I have thought a lot about learning
through joy or through suffering, and joy has been important theme for me all
my life. Yet I have find it difficult to reach that. I know about love and
fear and one always should choose love, but its not so easy in practice. What
would be the best way for me to achieve peace of mind, happiness, and learning
through joy in this lifetime?
<NancyG> The goal of living in love is one
for the whole cycle of the physical plane experience. It is not just for this
lifetime. One way that one can experience 'living through joy' is to cherish
each small element of each day. Now, that sounds very easy. But we suggest
that you try it for one day.
The problem is that human beings tend to suppose that everything that
happens to them is in fact a deliberate act, aimed at them. Take for instance
the nuisance of finding yourself in a slow moving stream of motor traffic and
you are already late for an appointment. It is easy to say Stay calm, you
won't be able to change anything anyway, so don't let your anger or resentment
bubble up. This, however, is never easy. The stresses of the various elements
in this little scene come together to loosen the negative aspects to the point
that it is very hard to find any joy in it. We understand this and we
sympathize. Do not suppose that we did not have similar experiences any number
of lives any number of times. This is a very small example of what may prevent
the joy of life from being apparent.
<NancyG> But consider, if you can see through
the Maya of the moment and remind yourself of the positive aspects, joy will
not be far behind. But, you say, this is not what I had in mind. We know that.
But we are using this as a stepping stone toward the larger elements of living
in joy. Practice at the lowest levels of life will take you through the harder
parts where joy is even less apparent. Just as letting a child choose between
a green shirt and a blue one sets him up for making much more demanding
choices in later life, so dealing with the small irritations of daily life
exercises your ability to maintain your equilibrium and to find yourself
balanced. That is the major prerequisite for living in joy: balance. Without
it joy cannot be experienced.
<Elo-Maria> Thank you.
<DaveGregg> Susan, you are next...
<aeoneSusan> Over and over again, my essence
chooses to align itself with The Order of the White Rose. Who was i in
my most significant past life within this order, and, how does this relate to
this current 13th grand cycle?
<NancyG> Susan, this is Nancy speaking. Can you
describe The Order of the White Rose for me?
<aeoneSUSAN> it is an old mystical order; a
group of fragments high priest / high priestess healers & magic workers.
<NancyG> Thank you.
<NancyG> The memory that the woman Susan has
of her association with this mystical order is of being in the circle of
governance. She was the third most important member and attained this position
through serious study and devotion to the ideals of this group. She remained
in this position until her death at the age of 47. The ideals of healing and
study have carried over into many of your lifetimes, Susan. Sometimes the
healing has been prominent, sometimes study has been more to the fore.
<NancyG> The connection in this lifetime is
somewhat less solid, making it a kind of background music for this time. You
connect with some of your fellows during dream states and you enjoy their
camaraderie once more when you do this. During this current grand cycle you
have joined with the members of this ancient order a total of 67 times.
<DaveGregg> Carrot, you're next...
<Carrot_Wax> Earlier, I had asked about the
causes of my sleep problems, and I received the following as contributing:
repressed memories, resolving karma in my sleep, and habits internal to my
body. Past life regression, accupuncture and changing my diet were suggested.
I've worked through some past life regression tapes, started accupuncture, but
I was wondering if I could get information on what diet might be more
appropriate for me - as well as anything Michael wants to add to the issue.
<NancyG> Matthew, these actions you have
undertaken are commendable. AS for diet, we suggest that lightening up on the
amount of pastries and other sugar laden foods would be a useful start. The
range of foods beyond that is not so important as adhering to a basic
selection of fruits and vegetables. Leave the heavier starches for small
portions, and select an array of fishes, and light meats such as pork and
chicken for your main protein intake. Beef need not be totally absent from
your choices, although making it a now and then choice would be beneficial to
<Carrot_Wax> hmm, that's been my basic diet
recently. though I did binge a bit on free pastries today.
<NancyG> Your body will tell you what foods
do not contribute to your wellbeing. Listen to it and you will find that
letting go of sugary foods will make the most difference.
<DaveGregg> Kara, you're next...
<Kara> Last time I was read, it was said to me
that I was "too open" and needed to shut down my crown chakra at night and
cleanse my aura. I hope that I have improved in that area, but now I feel too
closed off, and not sure how to proceed. Also I had a vision of numbers, 33 33
33, in that order and spacing, golden in color, and wonder what that message
means for me. Thank you.
<NancyG> Kara, you have a tendency to swing
from one extreme to another when you undertake a correction...
<Kara> That is accurate.
<NancyG> ...in your life. We appreciate what
you are trying to do in following the suggestion to be less open. As you see,
however, this needs to be softened because you do not want to close the crown
chakra completely. When you close down for the night, let that the only time
that you do so. Then make an intention to open that chakra during the day to
about half. This will ameliorate the feeling you are getting that you are too
closed. Adjusting the chakras is a skill that can be learned and comes with
the deliberate attention to them. Standing in a warm to hot shower and rubbing
the physical place of the chakras with the heel of your hand while you remove
the debris that accumulates in the chakra will cleanse and strengthen your
connection to each one.
<NancyG> Regarding the numbers 33 in series:
This is a number of the esoteric life. Seeing them in the color gold is a
reinforcement of your interest and energy being directed toward the goal of
learning as much as you can about your path and your progress on it. Knowing
where one stands is always useful. This is found by going into the inner most
spaces of your being and being aware of what you are and what you are doing.
<Kara> That makes sense, thank you.
<NancyG> It is not a feeling. It is an
awareness. Try using this string of 33 in your meditation, letting it enter
your consciousness for an extended period of time, something on the order of a
half hour, and see what it brings up in you.
<Kara> Ok wow, great idea! Thank you.
<DaveGregg> Dawn, you're next...
<celestiandawn> What are the major lessons I've
come to learn during this lifetime, and does this relate to this restlessness
or wanderlust I have? I can't seem to find a place to call home
<NancyG> Dawn, what is your overleaf goal?
<celestiandawn> I don't know.
<NancyG> We see the woman Dawn as having the
goal Discrimination. This is a difficult goal and not often chosen. There is a
tendency for the fragment to reject more often than accept, leading to this
sense of restlessness. Look at the word, Dawn. Rest less, not as much rest as
you may want, being without enough rest.
<NancyG> Wanderlust is an attempt to find a rest that is eluding you. Do you
truly think that by moving about so much that you will find this place?
We doubt it. Go back to a former question about joy. Rest, like joy, is not
'found', it is created.
<celestiandawn> No, I don't. But it's hard
<NancyG> Indeed, it is hard. We agree with
you. Perhaps making the deliberate decision to stay in one place and to create
your rest there will in fact allow you to 'find' that which you desire.
Remember, Dawn, you carry your rest within you. IT is not an exterior
condition that you must find.
<celestiandawn> That's true. Thank you!
<DaveGregg> Andie? You are next...
<andieangel1> I was wondering what the deal is
with my bad food allergies, how do I remove them and why am I retaining so
much water (like 20+lbs).
<NancyG> Most food allergies are leftover
elements from past life experiences. Not all, but most. In this lifetime you
have accumulated a number of past life experiences that involve various food
and they have 'ganged up on you', so to speak so that you are now very
restricted in your choices. The fact that they are residual does not in any
way mean they are 'all in your head'. They are very seriously physical and can
be life threatening. There are a number of things that you can do to mitigate
the seriousness of this problem. Having identified them, you know which to
avoid for their effects on your system. Consulting an alternative healer, one
who is versed in nutrition and herbal remedies may be a very useful decision.
<NancyG> If you should choose to do this,
find someone who has a metaphysical aspect to his or her practice. In this
respect META physical has even greater meaning than usual. Your condition is
ABOVE the physical and will respond to treatment that includes an ABOVE the
physical approach. The retention of water, or edema, is a result of the
malfunctioning of your adrenal glands which in tern is a function of the
toxins that your allergies manufacture in your body.
<andieangel1> What would be the best way to
<NancyG> We suggest that alleviation of the
stress caused by the disconnect between your digestive system and your
nutrition will allow your body to release fluids as it is supposed to.
<andieangel1> I'm sorry, I am not tracking you.
<NancyG> This will mean getting someone who
understands your condition and who understands nutrition to work with you.
<andieangel1> Oh. o.k. bummer for me, no such
creature in this plane.
<NancyG> Perhaps it would be possible for you
to work with someone at a distance. There are centers around your country
which specialize in the kind of aid that you need. This might be one of the
uses for your electronic connections, the web/net.
<andieangel1> Well, thank you, I shall look.
<DaveGregg> Heidi, you're next...
<Heidi> I would like if Michael could describe
some of the people in my life with whom I have spiritual
connections/agreements with and what they are. A few people in question are my
cousin Kristen who I believe may be a T.C., my friend Adam P., and my friend Nickole. Any others of interest would be appreciated.
<NancyG> Heidi, your cousin Kristen is part
of your support circle, not your Task Companion. Your task companion was
incarnate until about 4 years ago but you two did not meet in this life.
<NancyG> The woman Kristen is in the place of
confidant to you, one to whom you can turn to receive comfort and good advice.
The man Adam has an agreement with you to work with the task of making sure
that life has its humorous moments. Otherwise, you would be very serious
<Heidi> Are you talking about a mate agreement?
<NancyG> And your friend Nicole has no
particular agreement with you. She has come into your life because you find
yourselves compatible and enjoy each other's company. Not all close
relationships are by agreement, as we have said before.
<Heidi> What spiritual connections do I have
with them, if any?
<NancyG> As for others, you may, if you so
choose, assess a possible connection with a female with whom you work. This is
a mild agreement, not one of great moment, but you may find it rewarding, even
<Heidi> Thank you!
<NancyG> Heidi, you have not yet met anyone
with whom you have a mating agreement. [The connections you make with any of
these fragments are always part of your spiritual life.] All connections have
their spiritual aspect, all contribute to your evolution, one way or another.
<Heidi> Thank you.
<DaveGregg> Trans, you are next...
<Transducer> Is anyone available and willing to
write a book detailing the higher planes and clarifying related teachings of
other channeled sources?
<NancyG> Your name, please?
<NancyG> Michael, the probability that such a
book will be written is better than 50/50. We do not at this time, however,
know of such an endeavor.
<Transducer> Thank you.
<DaveGregg> Karen, you are next...
<Lightspring> Please comment on the recent
illnesses within my family: causes of, messages from, and courses of action to
<NancyG> Karen, I do not get any words from the
Michaels on this question. I'm sorry.
<Lightspring> Really? Hmm.
<Lightspring> Can I ask a different question
<NancyG> Yes, please do.
<Lightspring> Please comment on my legal
situation and how it will be resolved, what issues are there for me, etc.
<NancyG> This is a tangled situation
involving more than just yourself, as you well know. The probability that it
will be resolved in a manner favorable to you is less than even.
<Lightspring> How can this be changed?
<NancyG> It will require negotiation, as you
well know, and this will quite likely not be to your advantage. There is a
question of financial agreement, of agreements involving responsibility for
children, and agreements having to do with life patterns. These issues require
give and take, as do all legal machinations. They will not always tend to be
acceptable on the face of them, but over time the basic elements will become
clear and you will make decisions that will be in the best interest of
everyone involved. Will this please you? Perhaps not. Most legal arrangements
end up pleasing no one.
<Lightspring> Interesting, because this is not
how things are going now...what will cause this shift you speak of?
<NancyG> That is part of the scathing that
comes from the physical plane. They will, however, work. That is also part of
the physical plane which is bent on action. The shift is likely to come from a
small area of disagreement. IT will look like it has been decided by all
parties and then it will turn out not to be decided at all. And then it will
be back to the table, very likely.
<Lightspring> Hmm. OK, thanks.
<DaveGregg> Diane, you are next...
<dianekeith> I have previously asked about my
teenage son and his depressive episodes. Recently they seem to be fewer and
less severe. Still, he is being referred by his counselor for an evaluation to
determine if there is a chemical imbalance present. Do the Michaels see a
chemical imbalance, and if so, how would it best be treated? He is adamant
about not taking drugs, if side effects are possible.
<NancyG> What is your son's name?
<NancyG> The depression that the fragment Ben
is experiencing is unlikely to be chemically based. The tests that will be
done to determine this will in all likelihood confirm this. That does not
prevent your medical people from trying to put such conditions in a jacket of
chemicals for treatment. This depression is part of a sense of failure to mesh
with life as it presents itself. The effort to reach out is impeded by the
feeling that there is no one there who can be reached. This is not a matter of
adolescent angst. It is a sense of being isolated from fellows. We suggest
that the selection of a sound therapist with a bias toward treatment sans
medication may be more successful than anything else.
<dianekeith> by "fellows" do you mean his
friends? or his family?
<NancyG> We mean his friends more
particularly. We do not see him estranged from his family.
<dianekeith> He seems to have a lot of
friends...lives for his friends.
<NancyG> There are many fragments in this
young man's life, but few who are close. The friends he lives for are not
touching him in the ways he needs. They are friends to hang around with, not
to enter into deep discussions with. When this changes, when he can connect
with a few friends who will meet him in his center, he will feel less
<dianekeith> Thank you.
<DaveGregg> Chknltl, you are next...and then
just one more after that.
<chknltl> I have a reoccurring dream about
"crystals" in a cave or pocket generally in the side of a cliff. Sometimes
this cavelet is alongside a stream othertimes along a road. They are always
quite beautiful and I have a strong desire to possess them. Is there a meaning
<NancyG> This is a symbolic dream, Chris,
always pointing toward the light of positive energy. Crystals are holders of
such energy and they attract the student of the spirit. Crystals and caves
represent going within to find what you are seeking. The road is your path,
something you already know. When it is by a stream, it represents a cleansing
as well as a path. You will walk the road/path and reach for the light of the
crystal as you learn the lessons of this life. This is a very positive dream,
reassuring you that you are doing what you came to do.
<chknltl> Can you tell me what it is I seek
<NancyG> You seek enlightenment, of course.
<chknltl> Ah...Thank you.
<NancyG> That is the core of the crystal, the
light of knowledge, of spiritual knowledge.
<chknltl> Thank you.
<DaveGregg> Barbara, you are the last question
for the night. :-)
<barbara> Have I met my task companion and/or
essence twin in this lifetime? If so, who are they?
<NancyG> Barbara, you have met your Task
companion but not your Essence Twin. Your essence twin is discarnate. You may
meet up with your essence twin on the astral, if you so choose. Being
discarnate will allow the Essence twin to concentrate on you in a way that
would be impossible if you were both living at the same time. Your task
companion is a man you know from your recent experience of moving about. He is
someone with whom you had an instant rapport and with whom you felt
<barbara> Shepherd said tc discarnate et
Perhaps I got them backwards. If
this question has already been answered, perhaps you could give this
information and we can try this again. Once a question has been asked, the
chances of a valid answer are diminished.
<barbara> tc male artisan discarnate et sage
<NancyG> The sage male is the fragment who
has recently connected with you, the Essence Twin, then. The Task Companion,
the male artisan who is discarnate is not someone you ever met.
<barbara> Thank you.
<NancyG> If this is the end of the questions,
the Michaels will close.
<NancyG> We have been able to offer our
energy and understanding tonight to this group. This is the whole reason for
our taking on this task of teaching, to come to you and to assist where we can
in the work of your lives. WE do this because we know how difficult it is to
be human, to be concerned with everyday life, to worry about children, and
friends, and to want to know who and why of the path. As you go about your
days, look into the methods you use to resolve your problems. Do they
represent positive energy? Do they tend toward the joy that you wish? And if
they do, you will be a light unto your own feet, as one of your prophets has
said, and a light for those around you. When things do not seem to hold any
joy whatsoever, do not despair. No one expects you to see good when all you
see is darkness. But we counsel this: that at these times of least joy, be
patient and know that the lessons are being learned. They cannot help but be.
In the end there is a place of balance and of peace. Which is what we wish for
you now. Go in peace.
<DaveGregg> Thank you Nancy/Michael. You are
to be commended for going so late into the evening. :-)
<Kathryn41> Thank you Michael and Nancy.
<DaveGregg> The room is now open for discussion.
<Kathryn41> Excellent work and much useful
information for us all, thank you
<NancyG> It has been long, but I am happy we had such a good group.
<Carrot_Wax> thank you Nancy!
<aeoneSUSAN> thank you Michael & Nancy; along with Dave & Kathryn
<DaveGregg> It was a great turnout for a Wednesday evening!
<LindaW> thanks so much Nancy. It was really great..
<fireflySuz> most excellent, Nancy and Michael
<Marie> Thank you :)
<LindaW> Lots to ponder.
<chknltl> Thank you Nancy, tonight I was given a crystal by Michael.
<Ralf> Joy and rest are created not found. I like that
<NancyG> Everyone, it has been my pleasure. I think it probably was a pleasure
for the Michaels also. :-)
<Elo-Maria> Thanks, everyone!
<NancyG> I would suspect that the mix-up with the TC and the ET was a result
of being tired. I am truly sorry.
<Marie> wow......this is the first "live channel chat" I've been to .....are
they always so intense?
<Ann> thanks Nancy, it was great.
<NancyG> Yes, I think they are always intense.
<Kathryn41> it sounds like you felt the energy and that is a good thing :-)
<celestiandawn> Good Night All, great session!
<Elo-Maria> Yes, it was great. Joy for you all :-)
<NancyG> Good night.
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