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Nancy: Five topics that Michael has suggested they want to channel about
- We would speak about the Mature soul age of the planet that is coming
- We would speak about the 5th internal monad and what is means to the
evolution of the soul.
- We would speak about the accuracy of channeled information and the
- We would speak to the tendency among students to evaluate others in light
of what is perceived as their Chief Feature and their negative poles.
- We would speak to the progress that can be made in attaining life in the
positive pole of each of the overleaves, and of the other elements of the
life pattern and the True Personality's goal for that life.
Mature Soul Age Shift
MICHAEL: We are here with all of you tonight. We have the pleasure, for us,
of being able to speak on anything we wish, and we have given the channel
some suggestions. We see that she has offered them to you tonight. We will
begin then with the first of these suggested themes, the Mature Soul Age
that this planet is evolving into.
The Mature Soul Age is a level situated in the emotional center. Until the
majority of the population has passed into it, however, there will be many
remnants of the Young Soul to be dealt with. The energy of the Young Soul
Age is very outward. The energy of the Mature Age will be inward. By this we
mean that rather than focusing on the ways to DO, there will be a focus on
ways to BE. This will be a very different focus. Being requires that there
be a directive towards refashioning the inward perceptions, the basic intent
being to grow from within rather than from external stimuli.
As you know, the Young Souls of this planet have accomplished a great deal
in their work. Without the external direction of their energy there would be
very little to describe about the world you live in that you would
recognize. In all of the areas of life that are important to most of you,
your health, your residing, your ability to move from place to place, your
pleasures in recreation, and your lessoned time doing the mundane things
that life demands, all this has been ameliorated by the energetic
inventions, exercises, and adaptations of the inventive, expressive, 'lets's
get things done' approach of the Young Souls of your world.
Now that there is an end to this responsibility, and we caution you all that
it has been a very real responsibility in every sense of the word, there
will be adjustments to be made. And further, we will say that it will be
good to keep in mind that this transition will not take place overnight. And
further it will not take place evenly across the whole of the planet. Just
as there are still pockets of Baby souls extent in the world, and even some
Infant souls, so these will remain in various places along with Young souls
who are not yet finished with their level. This means that among those of
you who are already Mature souls, and especially those of you who are into
the Old Soul levels, a great amount of patience will be needed.
The overall energy of the Mature soul age will be focused on community. How
can we bring people together? What will it take to be sure there is enough
for everyone? This is a fairly new perspective for the planet. Some of these
thoughts have been part of some individuals and groups all along, but with
the Mature Energy 'yearning to breathe free' in larger amounts, there will
be a greater emphasis among those who are in places of power and of
authority. This will clash with the Young Soul concept that each of you is
an island unto yourself. And we might as well say it here, this transition
of perception will take about 10 generations to become the habit of the
planet. That is a conservative estimate, by the way. It took nearly four
hundred years for the transition from Baby Soul thinking to Young Soul
attention, but since you have better information distribution these days, we
believe that the transition will be accelerated this time.
The way people are governed will change, of course. If the major elements of
government have been from the top down during the years of the Young Soul
Age, and indeed during all the previous ages of this planet, government in
the parts of the world most susceptible to the Mature energy will begin with
the masses. This in itself will be a very ambitious undertaking and will
meet with a goodly amount of opposition from those used to telling others
what to do. There will always be the necessity of some form of government
and we will not begin to describe what yours will be, but we can say that
'Do it my way' is not going to be the norm. If consensus is the watchword
for the Mature Soul Age, then there will be a very real need for government
to persuade rather than coerce.
The energy that is being released even now is hitting very hard at some of
the Baby rulers of your world. You have followed the chaotic reactions to
change that are being generated in Baby and early Young communities.
Remember that these souls must by their nature go through each of the levels
that you have already traversed. The conflict that ensues is mirrored in the
streets of the cities and towns where there is organized and disorganized
rebellion against the status quo.
You will not want to think that there will have to be conflict to achieve
the transition, but there will be. Not only are these Baby and Early Young
and later Young Souls being harassed by their fear of change, but they fear
desperately losing what they have. This is the negative energy that is
firing the rebellions that you are aware of. The so-called 1st World
Countries like your own, and those of most of North America and Europe as
well as Australia and New Zealand, have had their Baby and Younger Soul
days. Now you and they observe with horror the chaos and misery you read
about in place like North Africa and the Near and Middle East. We will say
that this is nothing compared to what is to come in the rest of the world.
For instance, Asia has not yet followed in the footsteps of their westerly
brothers and sisters, but without doubt it will. There is a greater
abundance of all soul levels present in Asian countries, a situation that
will continue to fuel conflict and frighten rulers desperate to hold on to
their vanishing powers.
Can you here do anything about this? Not really. It is something that these
fragments must endure themselves. It would be like attempting to short
circuit the adolescent period for the teen-aged population of your country
because you remember how painful it was and would like to prevent them from
having to go through it. The 'going through it' is part of the evolution of
the culture, just as experiencing the birth pangs of the new age is part of
the evolution of the soul for those involved.
Government during the transition period will be trying to find its feet, so
to speak. As the experience of attempting to find alternative ways to
'rule', to pay for ruling, to provide for everyone alters the way things
have always been done, there will be mistakes and mis-steps and having to
scap this plan/idea/promotion or that one and start again. This will be
difficult for many to endure. The remnants of the Young Soul Age, including
impatience and anger at having to wait, will rear their heads and cause
untold uproar before things settle down. We repeat, the transition will not
be completed in your lifetimes. This is a part of the evolution of this
planet and part of the maya of processes. If there were no maya involved, of
course there would be an almost instantaneous transition. But nothing about
the Physical Plane is that perfect.
Education will become a much more individual-oriented process. That may
sound contradictory when we have described the Mature soul age as being less
individualistic. But the process by which children are inculcated with the
culture will pay greater attention to the ways different Roles perceive
information and apply it. This is what we mean by individualistic education.
It is already well known that some children learn by hearing, some by
seeing, some by doing. As you can tell, this correlates with centering. As
the Mature educators achieve greater awareness in this area, there will be
more choices for educating the individual.
We will not address how long people can expect to live. That will depend
almost entirely on the willingness of both the health professions and the
populace to cooperate in producing an environment in which there will be
more support for 'good' health. There are protocols available today that are
not yet in the realm of common medical procedures. This will change as more
thought is given to distribution and less to the bottom line.
Finally, the whole concept of value received for value given will be
re-aligned toward the greater good for the whole, not just for the many. We
cannot predict just exactly what this will look like, only that it will be
in alignment with the Mature soul conviction that everyone is everyone's
brother and keeper.
Bobby: What do you see for the world population load during, say, the next
50 years of this transition?
MICHAEL: Your experts have predicted that within the next 20 years the
population of the earth will reach 7 billion. There is every possibility
that there will be a general decline in birthrates after that, although even
so, the population total will remain high and is certainly one off the
greatest concerns for the future. We know that there have been predictions
of large numbers of people dying off because of plague-type diseases. We
tend to think that this is unlikely. However, it is not unlikely that there
will be a general decline in so-called 'quality of life' for many in order
for there to be enough for all. It may be that the three-car family will
become obsolete, for instance. [small smile from Michael] and there may be a
retrenchment in living conditions. In many parts of the world most people
live without back yards and patios, you know.
Helen: Are we transitioning towards a bartering system/black market?
Will $ become worthless?
MICHAEL: The money culture of the Western world is in a time of upheaval, as
you well know. Barter is certainly an option, although we do not see it as a
general means of exchange. Whether you choose to establish a 'black market'
is up to you.
Maggie: Regarding population - is this because Earth is really on the
cutting edge of evolution with ties to so many future/parallel galactic
brethren that souls are clamoring to participate in the experience of being
human on Earth?
MICHAEL: It is a certainty that many souls wish to 'get in on' the
excitement of these days. But we remind you that those incarnating now are
not beginning their earthly cycle. No Infant souls are any longer coming to
this planet. Also, there are no souls incarnating into human bodies now who
have not started out the cycle here as Infants. Leaving out the parallel
universe concept, then, there is a sense among discarnate souls that being
here to experience the energy of the transition would be an interesting part
of Growth. Many of the souls so inclined are still Young and even Baby.
Discarnate late Mature and Old souls are less inclined to wish to be a part
of the excitement. Many of them are willing to wait and see.
MICHAEL: We will speak about the 5th internal monad and what it means to the
evolution of the soul.
The 5th internal monad is part of the maturing of the human body. After the
outward energy of the younger days, and by this we mean the years between
the end of the 3rd internal monad and through the 4th, there is usually a
period of rest and recovery. This time is roughly from the age of 45 to 60.
By the way, we have said that the 4th internal monad usually begins at about
age 35. We believe we should revise this estimate forward, given the
increased longevity of your culture. The 4th internal monad may not begin
until after the 40th year, sometimes not until after the 45th year.
As the fragment lives on into the late 50s and early 60s of life there comes
a time when it seems useful to take stock. That is what the 5th internal
monad is all about: evaluation, taking stock. At this time there is a
tendency to see things as very black and white. Failures are toted up and
successes are rethought as to outcomes.
However, the 5th internal monad is not meant to be a judgment call. It is
meant to be a softening of the personality's efforts to scour the soul. By
this we mean, if you have always expected to die a millionaire and you see
by the age of 60 or 65 that this is not in the running, you will not see
your life as a failure. Remember that false personality is prone to
exaggerate every fear that is humanly possible. Fear of failure is high on
Putting up impossible or unlikely goals is a specialty of False Personality
and is especially a product of maya. During the 5th internal monad there is
the prospect of righting these inflated goals and taking a hard look at the
actual products of the life. These are qualities, not quantities. Where are
you on the scale of understanding? Of compassion, of patience, of
truthfulness, of giving up of the ego toward a companionable solution? Of
endurance of what cannot be changed? Of the effort to be realistic about
oneself and one's abilities? These are the criteria by which the life can be
evaluated. The fragment who comes to an honest understanding of his or her
actual accomplishments has entered the 5th monad and exited with honors.
There is no emphasis on bodily decline inherent in the 5th internal monad.
There may be such, but that is highly idiosyncratic. Mostly the emphasis on
health and bodily difficulties are left for the 6th internal monad. However,
there is the fact of weaknesses and general lessening of powers that will be
obvious by the time of the 5th monad. Ignoring them is not Good Work, and we
do not propose that it is. Part of the 5th internal monad is arrival at a
realistic appraisal of a life, including health, career, life task if known
and or understood, relationships, and any other element that is important to
the individual. That is the basic design of the 5th internal monad.
We have said that those who die before their 60th year are less likely to
have completed all the agreements, karma, and other arrangements made before
incarnating. This is only partially true and we wish here to set the record
on this straighter. Fragments come into a lifetime with varying amounts of
ambition regarding what is possible to achieve during a lifetime.
Expectations can run rampant in this regard. But remember, agreements are
not karma. Agreeing to something on the Astral Plane is a proposition only.
One may decide it is not feasible, not agreeable, not going to happen; there
is no penalty for abandoning it. Therefore, when the fragment reaches the
latter years of a life care can be taken not to confuse abrogating an
agreement with the probable karma attached to abandoning a dependent spouse
or a handicapped child. We say 'probable' since circumstances may mitigate
responsibility in individual cases.
We do emphasize that evaluating does not mean flagellating the soul for
things undone. It means, again, an honest, unvarnished appraisal of a life
and then putting it behind and living the rest of the years available in
harmony with Essence. As one would have wanted to do all during life anyway.
Kathryn: Is there a 'hallmark' one can use to determine if/when one has
completed the 5th IM? (I am going through it now :-) )
MICHAEL: There might be a sense of completion, of having 'been there, done
that'. Many people realize sooner than later that time has run out on some
or many of their ambitions. This is one marker that the 5th internal monad
is in progress. Another marker is the feeling of satisfaction that reviewing
things brings. Another is quite the opposite: a let-down feeling that a goal
was a bridge too far. All of these are emotional reactions, of course. There
is no physical marker that we know of.
Is there a way to tell the difference between abrogation of an
agreement and incurring karmic debt/repaying a karmic debt? Is there a
hallmark or a particular sense the fragment may have upon review of a
relationship where estrangement from another fragment may have occurred?
MICHAEL: There is always a sense of duty in the repayment of karma. It is
not a pleasant sensation by any means. And it is especially hard to be
repaid, often causing the one receiving repayment to have negative feelings
about the whole thing. Karma reception and payment is engineered by Essence
and comes about in its time without conscious thought on the part of the
principles. An agreement, as we have said, is just that, agreeing to do
something with someone else. Agreements are made by the fragment with other
fragments, not with Essence. But if geography, or age, or class structure,
or health prevents one from honoring the agreement, there is no residue for
the soul to worry about. Any worry is from personality, either False or
True. No, we do not believe that fragments would recognize a particular
marker which delineates a relationship as an agreement.
Accuracy of Channeled Information
MICHAEL: We would speak about the accuracy of channeled information and the
elements of the channeling process.
When we connect with a human intelligence, we transmit and receive energy.
The amount of energy we transmit is much greater than the amount that is
received from the fragment, but it is a two-way street. We have said that we
will come to anyone who asks, and that is a truth. What we have not said is
based on the reality of the connection.
Some of you have the ability to receive our energy and to translate it into
words that others can understand. Remember, we do not have the apparatus for
speaking words, nor the limbs for expressing them in writing. We must
connect with a willing vessel who is able to provide us with these essential
elements. When we express our thoughts to the channel, it is in the form of
intellectual energy. Then it must be converted into words that others can
understand. If it were only the channel who needed to understand, the
reception of the energy would in most cases be sufficient. The channel
'gets' the ideas/message and could decide to let it go at that. But to pass
on the energy requires transcribing that energy into words. That is where
the individual characteristics of the channel come in. We are dependent on
the intelligence and ability of the receiver to be able to convert our
energy into words, spoken or written.
When there is a fragment who consults one of our channels, we are part of a
three-way transmission. The energy flows from us to the channel who connects
energetically with the person, who returns energy to us. This three-way
circuit also goes in all directions, back and forth, round and round and is
necessary for the delivery of the message. When we enter into a group
channeling, as we are doing tonight and as we do every time we come here,
there is an even greater exchange of energy among all of you, back to us,
from us to the channel, from the channel to you. That is the necessary
connection our Entity makes every time we deliver anything to you.
Now, there is the very real possibility that something gets lost in the
translation. If the channel does not have the mental capacity, the
vocabulary, the cultural equipment to 'make sense' of our transmission, then
the quality of the channeling suffers. We attempt to connect only with those
who 'qualify' according to our understanding of what we are trying to
Does this mean that every nuance of what we are transmitting is caught and
passed on? No, it does not. "Good" channels 'get' most of what we are
sending and very good channels can be nearly 90 percent accurate. This
channel has been concerned the whole time we have connected with her that
she will pass on 'wrong' information. We have told her that we will not let
her be 'wrong' on anything that is important. Sometimes less important
transmission can be less than 90 percent accurate, but these inaccuracies
are not crucial to the message.
Remember also that the state of the channel varies from time to time. There
is the possibility that external stresses will lower the connection's
viability. The daily variables of health, weather, duties, and such normal
elements as fatigue or worry can interfere with the accuracy of the
connection. We take that into consideration and monitor the results. If
there seems to be a serious discrepancy, we will repeat the message until we
are satisfied that it has been not only received but transmitted clearly. We
have been careful throughout our work with fragments to connect with those
who exhibit the physical and mental traits that we have described.
This is a good time to decry the notion that channeling is a 'spiritual'
promotion. It is not. The elements that are necessary for the making of a
competent receiver have nothing to do with the moral health of the fragment.
This may come as a shock to those who equate channeling with saintliness,
but it is true. Being able to channel to our satisfaction does not set the
channel apart in soul evolution. It is a talent, if you will, nothing more.
It is a talent that needs careful fostering, that is so, and we are always
aware of that fact. We do not pour our energy out in full immediately that
we find a compatible connection. We slowly, over time, increase the amount
of our energy that is transmitted until the channel is able to withstand it
to the extent that we hope for. To do otherwise would be unpardonable on our
part and destructive to the channel.
This channel had the experience of suddenly connecting with us. We would say
that it was very easy and have told her so.
There is a kind of thinking among some of you that being a channel involves
all sorts of preliminaries such as showering, putting on special clothing
such as white robes, lighting candles and incense, sitting in a prescribed
position in a particular place, and so on. None of this is necessary from
our standpoint, but may be necessary for the individual who is going to
channel. If these rites are part of the fragment's culture concerning
connection with us, then by all means he or she is at liberty to indulge in
them. But they are not required by us and have nothing to do with the
quality or quantity of the channeling.
Finally, let us remark on the 'sound of Michael' that we hear about.
Returning to the proposition that each fragment receiving us has a
vocabulary that is his or her own, that he or she has an intelligence that
has been shaped by education and culture in a particular way, and that he or
she is of particular age and experience with this world, there will be
variances in the 'sound of Michael'.
A channel does not divest him or herself of personality when channeling, and
this will show itself in the expression of our energy. This has nothing to
do with the message, however. If it did we would be constrained to a very
small population of possible willing receivers.
Brian W: What is involved in a channeling agreement from both your
perspective and the perspective of a potential channel? What do you look for
when setting up those agreements, either before the life or during the life?
MICHAEL: We look for willingness to be a channel since nothing would be
gained by coercion, even if we were capable of it. We 'arrange' with souls
who seem to be the receivers we are eager to work with both before
incarnation and after. Those who make an agreement with us before
incarnation, and remember, an agreement is a willingness between both
parties, may take steps to choose a life that will include the kind of
preparation that will make them good at the job. In other words, to choose
parents who will bestow intelligent genes, a cultural environment which will
enhance the experience, etc. These choices do not always turn out as
planned, however. And exceptions always prove the rule. Since channeling is
such a bi-lateral agreement, we stress that it is willingness on both sides:
we perceive that a certain fragment has the capability, the fragment accepts
the invitation and prepares to cooperate. That is the main involvement, if
Helen: What are some helpful habits for developing the talent to
MICHAEL: A channel, to be an accurate, honest, and useful receiver, must be
objective about him or herself, able to put the personality aside as much as
possible, and care implicitly about getting the message 'right'. We have
found that some roles tend to make better channels than do others, but even
this is not carved in stone. Kings, do not usually make good channels, but
we know of one very good one. Sages usually do not either, but again, there
are exceptions. Idealists make better channels than do Cynics. Priest do not
usually make good channels. Self-Deprecation and Arrogance both tend to be
useful to a channel, unlikely as that may seem. All of these are chosen by a
fragment prior to incarnation, so cannot be 'developed' on demand. We would
say objectivity may be the single most helpful habit of mind/intellect and
heart for one wishing to be a receiver/channel.
We believe that this has been a long and fruitful evening for us and for
you. Go in Peace.
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