WE are here. We bring a work of the mind and heart to those who are new to
our teachings. We offer you a way to deal with the burdens, joys, and
unexpectednesses of being human. None of you need believe what we say.
Indeed, we suggest that you yourself decide whether anything that is said
here tonight is 'for real'.
For those of you who are 'old hands', we welcome you also and offer these
words: This is another beginning. Each time we meet, each time you pick up a
book which offers our words, each time you connect with another student,
that is a new beginning. Beginnings are an opportunity for growth and a
greater understanding of agape. Remember what it was to begin a new school
year? Excitement, concern, hopefulness? Many of these emotions can be
applied to each beginning we describe here.
What you then do with this opportunity is up to you. Whether there is a past
to the beginning, as there is to meeting an old friend, or whether there is
only a future, as there is in meeting someone new, the beginning stands on
its own. We have suggested that those who can remember their past life
experiences have the chance to apply lessons learned and to skip over, in a
way, some of the hurdles of this life in a more gentle way. That is not to
say that memory is imperative to living. Indeed, for some of you, memories
such as past life experiences may serve to paralyze you in this life. This
would not be good work and we do not promote this.
Remember, each of you is a fragment, a soul, with its own make-up, its own
life to live. Take what appeals to you from the past and let the rest reside
in the records for pursuit on the astral. The life you are living at this
moment is the one you are 'meant' to live. We repeat ourselves: No life is
wasted, no life is going down a 'wrong path', nothing is lost from any life.
If a certain objective seems to be impossible, it will come around again
some other time. If a particular agreement is aborted and it is important to
the growth of your soul, there will be another time when it can be tended
to. That is part of beginnings. We observe that much energy is wasted in the
worry about AM I Doing What I AM Supposed To Be Doing? What if you are not
'supposed' to be doing anything? How would you live? What plans would you
make? What decisions would you decide?
Live your lives as if there is no 'should', no 'supposed to'. You will find
it is a lot easier to do this than to continually be concerned about the
possibility that you have made a 'wrong' turn, a 'poor' choice, or in some
instances, no choice at all. Which of course, is a choice of a kind.
Make tonight a beginning as we join together our energy and our thoughts.
Make your going to sleep a beginning, a restful end and a promising
beginning. Make tomorrow another beginning as you start your day. The past
will take care of itself. The future is not yet decided. This hour is the
now that offers its beginning. Enjoy it.
We will now take questions.
Q & A
I'd like to know if Michael can point out 1 relevant past life that's
exerting a lot of influence on this present lifetime.
Michael: We can do this. The fragment
Jolie was a lumber jack in the Canadian north around 100 years ago. This
would have been two lives in the past. This male left his home at an early
age and found a community in the company of others who, for one reason or
another, had done the same. Attaching to this community gave the fragment
Jolie/male the family sense of belonging that had been absent in his life.
In this attachment he learned the lessons of generosity, loyalty, honesty,
and the rewards of hard work. If the fragment Jolie chooses to examine her
present life in light of these qualities, she may consider the lessons well
learned and the time with the axe and the rope well spent. END
[Jolie] Thank you.
[DaveGregg] Kathryn, you're next.
[Kathryn41] Hi, Michael, What was my most eccentric/ exotic/ unusual life,
at what soul age/level did it occur and what did I hope it would accomplish?
Michael: The fragment Kathryn has had a
number of rather eccentric or unusual lives. Choosing one, however, we would
say that it was as a street clown in what is now Germany in the 15th C.
This was a part of the late young level for this Scholar's growth. In
adapting to the 'being out front' requirement for this work, the Scholar
experienced the life of a Sage. This was the reason for the choice, to
understand what it meant to take on the 'alter ego' of another role. This
experience has been a part of each life since. No fear of talking to groups,
no 'stage fright' when performing before an audience, able to step into the
shoes of a persona foreign to her soul. End
[Kathryn41] Thank you :-)
[DaveGregg] Wilma, you're next.
Good evening, Nancy & Michael. My question is about the relationship between
the man, Doug W. and myself. Sometimes I think we're getting very close &
then I won't hear from him for weeks.I'm wondering if he still have any
feelings for me now. I do understand that the low odds of our being a
permanent relationship, but if I knew why he does this push-pull thing, I
think I could let go easier.
Michael: We have remarked on this
before, that there is no permanent connection here. as such things are
understood, with this fragment. It is a question of the male Douglass having
no intention of a relationship that would of necessity be singular. That, we
believe, may be at the bottom of the fragment Wilma's concern: that the male
is not interested in a one on one connection. We would also say this: The
fragment Douglass would like a less intense companion for the occasional
event and the woman Wilma is projecting more intensity than he wants.
Would it be possible to treat the relationship as one of amiable
companionship rather than a romantic affair? We ask this with the
understanding that it may not be enough for Wilma to participate in such a
connection on that basis.
[Wilma_T] I don't understand "be singular."? I care too much?
Michael: We use the word singular to
mean no other strings. And yes, Wilma, it may be that you show too much
caring for a man who is not able to receive that much affection.
[Wilma_T] Thank you so very much.
[Brian W] Hi, Michael and Nancy, could you please describe any talents I may
have developed during several previous lives that I am unaware of in this
Michael: Talents are specific to the
life that they appear in, but they leave a residue on the soul that may
surface at a later time. For instance, one who has mastered the craft of
wood working may find that it is easy to repair furniture, put up a door, or
build a treehouse in later lives.
The fragment Brian has enjoyed lives in which music has been a dominant
experience. He has also been a sailor, working on small crafts that operated
between small ports, carrying fruits and vegetables. He has mended nets,
trawled for fish, and gutted and scaled them for market. We do not know if
the current personality Brian would consider these 'talents', but we can say
that at the time they were much appreciated.
[Brian_W] That would explain my fondness for the ocean.
Michael: Another 'talent' that was of
some note was to carry news and mechandise as an itinerant merchant.
Listening to what others had to say and then passing it on was an important
part of this life. We would say that listening is a very serious talent that
the man Brian leans on many times in this life.
[Brian_W] Thank you, Michael.
Hello, Michael. I was wondering if I am meditating correctly and if there
are any vital messages or suggestions from my guides or you? I would like to
know how long should I be using the FIRST MUDRA and how long should I be
using SECOND MUDRA?
[NancyG] (What is your name, please?)
[cylex] Radheshyam Bhatt
[NancyG] (Are you a Michael Student?)
[NancyG] (Thank you.)
Michael: Meditation is a very individual
experience. There is no right or wrong way to meditate if it takes the soul
into an altered state. Therefore, we would say that the meditation of the
fragment Radheshyam has been fruitful to a point. The First Mudra is
intended to put the soul in a state of appreciation. The Second Mudra may
then build on that with the intention of opening to knowing more about the
self. They are only sequential because this it the way masters teach them.
They may be used intermittently and undifferentiatedly at any point that one
or the other seems appropriate for the time.
[cylex] What about for the purpose of being able to channel, which one
should I use?
Michael: The process of meditation is
useful as a tool for quieting the yammering of the mind. Whatever style or
manner that works for this objective is appropriate. We do not define a
particular conduit for channeling our energy. If the energy of a human is
tuned to us, we can use that connection to transmit information. We would
have to ask who or what the fragment wants to channel.
[cylex] I would like to channel, to meet my spirit guide or some higher
Michael: Are you asking whether you can
channel in the abstract, or are you asking if you can channel a particular
entity? We suggest that you make your intention before going into the
meditative state and let things take their course.
[cylex] Am I capable of channeling in this life?
Michael: Yes, you have the ability to
connect with your guides, if they are your preference.
[cylex] Thanks, Nancy and Michael. :-)
[DaveGregg] Bobby, you're next.
[Bobby] From your perspective, would you offer a little information about
the Vimana of ancient India such as time period, what they were, where they
came from, who engineered them if they were real?
Michael: The Vimana as they are called
were a hunting group with addiction to an herb that when smoked caused
interaction with the mystical world. As time went on, they faded from the
history of the Indian subcontinent, but were remembered as beings, rather
than as a people. They originated in the steppes of the Asian continent and
we would say this was about 3,000 years before the common era. They were not
part of the oriental groups of further east.
[Bobby] I just remember reading/hearing about something referred to as
"flying machines" with that name, Vimana, from that culture.
Michael: The 'flying machines' were
kites that were something like those of the ancient Incan peoples. They were
used to allow very few people to guard themselves against invaders. These
were leather affairs and could hold a man aloft for as long as the warm
currents blew. Useful when they left the steppes and entered the northern
mountains of India.
[Bobby[ Was the herb usage considered recreational?
Michael: The smoking of herbs was used
as a mind-altering event. We would say that it allowed them to establish
connections with the astral, much as the smoking of similar but different
herbs did the same for the Indians of the North American southwest.
[Bobby] Thanks, Michael and Nancy.
[DaveGregg] Hao, you're next.
Hello, Nancy and Michael. This is Hao Zhang. I have a question about a
teaching named The Human Design System, which was given form by Ra Uru Hu
(born name Alan Robert Krakower). I'm not quite familiar with this teaching,
but it seems to be a quite complex system blending astrology, chakra/axiotonal
line system and traditional Chinese teachings like I Ching into one thing.
I'd like to know your comments on this teaching, on aspects such as its
validity/genuineness and its capability of providing information about the
make-up of the personality (like the natal chart in astrology) and about the
current trend regarding the personality (like the transit and progression in
Michael: There is always a kernel of
truth in any form of information that is not patently false. This is not
meant to be a distinction without a difference, but we would say that this
Human Design System is one of these aggregate teachings that draws, as you
say, on several different ways of communicating truth. This is a common
tendency in the age of your planet and the culture of the western peoples.
Those who are looking for more of a reason to be human and who have little
basis from which to judge the validity of what they find are the very ones
who keep these 'teachings' going. Combinations that extend through so many
valid systems tend to diminish the truths they contain and so become a
mish-mash of gruel for an infantile personality.
We do not say that those who are attracted will not profit from what they
learn. We do say that care is the important element here. When we say
Validate! Validate! Validate! we are reminding you all that if it rings true
for you, then it probably is. If it does not, then it very likely isn't. The
more experienced the soul becomes in the teachings of a true master, the
better able it is to judge these systems.
[hao] Thank you so much!
Is the Michael Teachings a form of a lot of spiritual beings coming
together? Is this a form of many spiritual beings working together for us?
Michael: We are an entity of 1050
fragments/souls who reside on the Causal Plane and who have chosen to come
to the planet Earth to impart a teaching that we believe will aid human
beings in their journey through the cycle of lives. We were once human as
you are and we have experienced all the joys and sorrows that you do.
Therefore we believe that we can offer a kind of map of the journey through
the Physical Plane that makes that journey less of a blind undertaking.
[klee] Beautiful! That's what we need. Do you you need us who have found
this truth to help others make it to you? How would you like us to help
others find this way?
Michael: No, we do not expect that you
are our army. (Michael is grinning.) We offer a teaching, that is all. What
anyone makes of it is up to the individual. Everyone of you will complete
your cycle of lives and will do this with or without our teaching. Those who
are attracted to our teachings usually find us on their own. There is really
no need to advertise us, as such. And we also say this: There are millions
of souls who are now extant on the earth who have never heard of us but who
live lives commensurate with our teachings. That is the validity of truth,
that it just IS. All we are trying to do is uncover the truth that is in
[klee] I just want everyone to feel this experience. But I understand.
[DaveGregg] Rachelle, you're next.
[Rachelle] Hi, Michael. I am curious about history and I would like to know
what happened to the original European colonists that settled in America,
specifically the settlers of Roanoke, Virginia especially Virginia Dare and
her mother Elizabeth Dare. Any information at all would be interesting.
Michael: The settlement at Roanoke was
probably doomed from the beginning. It was not intended that this colony
would be in a marshy, insect-filled place and the people who arrived there
were not prepared for the hardships of that environment. Many of them died
of disease and malnutrition. They had barricaded themselves from the
indigenous peoples of the area and received no support or aid from them.
Instead the settlers antagonized those who could have aided them by assuming
them to be enemies. This made the native peoples enemies in truth and in the
end they were able to take the few remaining invaders as slaves. The native
warriors took apart the barricade and tore down the wooden buildings, taking
the parts away with them. That is why very little of this settlement remains
to be studied.
[Rachelle] And Virginia and Elizabeth?
Michael: The elder Dare woman died of an
infected injury to her leg. The younger one was taken as were the others
into the tribe that destroyed the settlement.
[DaveGregg] Geraldine, you have the final question.
[Geraldine] Hello, Nancy and Michaels. All instances of the beginnings of
literacy seem to have started at around 5,000 years ago -- whether in China,
Egypt, the Fertile Crescent, or even the Americas. This might even be deemed
part of the beginnings of civilization and urbanization. This is at odds
with how long humans have been around and have been ensouled. What triggered
this sudden expansion towards civilization?
Michael: There had actually been
'civilization' before 5000 B.C. We remind you that 'civilization' is your
word that comes from 'civis' which is Latin for city. Therefore your
definition of a civilized people hinges on their coming together into groups
capable of operating in concert with each other. After this little lesson in
semantics, we return to the original question about literacy. To be literate
is to have the means to transmit information from one person to another when
they are too far apart to hear one another. The need for such a device as
writing came about with the development of larger than tribal group living
and the fact that groups with similar objectives could establish themselves
in various areas, not just in one.
The notion that symbols could stand for words became obvious when the need
for such transmission was felt. Keeping track of people and things was the
province of the priesthoods of the time and the 'invention' of writing came
from their order.
[Geraldine] That didn't answer the nearly universal impetus aspect of the
Michael: The 'nearly universal impetus'
was an extension of the wave of congregating that took place around 3500 BC.
Several of the centers of cultural congestion around the world experienced
this need at the same time, almost as though there were already an
interchange of information among them. There was little interaction between
what has been labeled for practical purposed as the Fertile Crescent and the
established cities of Mohenjo Daro and similar sites around the world. There
was, however, an energy toward this end that made the development of writing
[Brian_W] So are you saying that with the exception of the past 6000 years
of recorded history, the past 125,000 years of human history have been
purely hunting & gathering and nomadic tribes? It seems very odd to me that
we'd have our collective thumbs up our asses for some 119,000 years
Michael: Why would you stop at 125,000
years of human history? Why would you not want to compare to, say, 1,000,000
years or more?
[Brian_W] 125,000 years is considered the current extent of homo sapiens, or
at least of what is known as homo sapiens.
Michael: We have said that the
ensoulment of the animal which was your 'ancestor' took place about 65,000
years ago. It would be fair to say that this is the place that one might
want to start with when speaking of 'human history'. And yes, for much of
that time humans were hunter/gatherers and there was no particular need for
writing anything. Some of the art work from this period includes symbols,
which were understood by those who were expected to see them, but there was
no sending of missives to others, nor any need to do so.
The need for your scientists to extend the existence of homo sapiens, as you
say, to a greater and greater history, has nothing to do with the fact that
there was no ensouled animal cum human being extant on this planet before
65,000 to 70,000 years ago. The bi-pedal, stereoscopic visioned, opposable
thumbed, palate-shaping of words animal who became ensouled had the tools to
become homo sapiens and made very good use of them. If they had not, you
would be the descendants of another species.
[Geraldine] Thank you.
[DaveGregg] Does Michael have any closing comments?
Michael: We have the means to explain
for you some of the anomalies of your past and we are happy to do so. There
is no better way to understand what it is to be human than to examine the
historical record of your existence. The line between animal and human is
fragile and blurred when approached by the scientific mentality. Many of the
possible species that were extant on the planet had some of the aspects of
humanity: caring for the injured, the old, and the orphaned, for instance.
Burying the dead rather than eating them was also part of some of the animal
species that preceded the one finally selected for ensoulment. Many of the
aspects of the human being are a product of those animal ancestors. For
instance, the tendency to live in groups. To range abroad from curiosity. To
defend one of your own who may be threatened. These are thought of as human
qualities but are in fact owing to the ape-type that you descended from.
Continue to ask about your past and hope for your future. The future is
beginning right now.
Go in peace.
The after conversation:
[NancyG] Bobby, I didn't see your question about the animal having no say
about being ensouled. But the answer must be that there wasn't really a
choice for ensoulment made by the ape species. The choice was from the
fragments who wanted incarnation here.
[Kathryn41] Michael has actually addressed that question before as well :-)
[Bobby] Oh, thanks, Nancy . . . sorry for shooting that one at ya there,
thought you were still going into some history there :-)
[Brian_W] it just seemed wierd to me, as I've seen it put a few other
places, that human ensoulment happened anywhere from 1 million years ago to
now 65,000 years.
[NancyG] Yes, they have answered many questions before, but as good
teachers, they bear with repeating. :-)
[Kathryn41] It is the decision of the soul families (cadres, entities,
energy rings, whatever) to explore ensoulment and monitoring a species with
[Kathryn41] I have only heard them say 65,000 years, Brian.
[NancyG] Brian, what is your source for this assertion about ensoulment so
[Brian_W] I forget, to be honest.
[Brian_W] It still just strikes me as strange that only the past 6000 years
have been interesting.
[Kathryn41] we always speak of ourselves as being a partnership between a
soul and a personality, but in truth, we are actually a partnership between
a soul/essence, a personality, and a physical body.
[NancyG] I know that some Hindu teachings consider homo sapiens to be much
older than that, but I do not know their source for that.
[Bobby] 5000 years is truly a drop in the bucket of time for being somewhat
[Kathryn41] It has been interesting before that, Brian - it has been
fascinating the road that led to ensoulment as well.
[Kathryn41] Ensoulment and advanced are not necessarily the same thing. It
may be the semantics of the definition that you want to look at more
[DaveGregg] It's not a surprise that mankind didn't secure its footing till
fairly recent, since the interglacial period started around 10,000 years
ago. That finally gave us some climatic stability.
[NancyG] The last 6000 years are only 'interesting' if one is attached to
the written word. There was a lot going on before that that was also
[Brian_W] Such as?
[Kathryn41] One of the most 'fascinating' events I can think of is the
Neolithic Revolution - where mankind 'discovered' that they didn't need to
travel to gather but could deliberately plant seeds and harvest from a set
location year after year
[Bobby] Yes, considering some form of taxation has existed probably for the
last 5000 years, perhaps WE are not the advanced ones ;-)
[Brian_W] I mean, I know the dark ages are uninteresting from a
technological standpoint, but have severe implications in the socialtal
organization of humankind, particularly in Europe.
[Kathryn41] The neolithic revolution happened about 12,000 BC/BCE - and is
what allowed for the growth of cities and communities' - a larger family
group could afford to stay in one place for a longer period of time because
there was a consistent food source.
[DaveGregg] That was aided by the end of the glacial period.
[klee] This may sound stupid but...I thought there was no such thing as time
and years in the spiritual world??
[Kathryn41] Klee, we aren't in the spiritual world - we are in the physical
world, so for us, we do experience time and years. :-)
[NancyG] Klee, the Michaels have to bow to our need for putting things in
perspective and so they talk about years so that we will know where to hang
[Brian_W] Oh, I could still argue that dolphins are smarter than us. They
stay in their natural environment, don't mess with it, eat fish, socialize
and have sex for both recreation and procreation.
[Brian_W] I think they've got it figured out already.
[Kathryn41] That is a subjective definition.
[klee] How do michaels configure the time?
[Kathryn41] They use our scale so we can understand it.
[NancyG] They look at the Akashic records for this planet and use the
measurement of this place.
[klee] Oh, I see..Thanks.
[Brian_W] Okay, so the neolithic revolution is what caused the nomadic
tribes to gradually transfer over to farming communities.
[Kathryn41] Yes, Brian.
[Brian_W] Damn, I was hoping some technological event caused humans to blow
themselves back to the stone age and they had to start over again.
[NancyG] And those communities eventually led to cities and to the need for
[Kathryn41] Right, Nancy.
[Brian_W] Yeah, I gathered that much.
[Kathryn41] It is interesting that much of the earliest record fragments
that we have are often 'lists' and inventories.
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