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Michael Chat with
Nancy Gordon


Opening Comments

Michael: We welcome all of you here tonight. We know that coming together as you do for these gatherings brings into your lives some of the energy that is present when We connect with a channel. We, you, and the channel here tonight are the three legs of the stool, in a way. You may think that our connection with the physical world is only directly with an individual, one at a time. This is not a truth.

We generate energy to the channel, yes, but there is the connection between you all, first. Then between Us and that energy. Then among Us, all of you, and the channel. That is why this coming together allows a moment in time to expand around you, no matter where you are on the planet. We can use this connection to good effect, a stronger exchange of energy than it would be between one fragment and Ourselves or between you and another.

We invite you to sink into the energy present now, to melt, if you will, into the wholeness that is here, and to take into your being a consciousness of the greater soul that is present temporarily by your contribution. When We have finished this session, take away from it an expansion of understanding and the energy that accompanies it into your life of tomorrow and beyond.

We will now answer questions.

Q & A

Oscar: (Question was lost)

Michael: During your 18th C. this fragment was a minor composer of music suitable for groups to sing. The country was east of the German states and is now a part of what you know as Hungary. The man Oscar made a small contribution to the body of choral music, earned a precarious living doing it, and died in relative poverty, aged 37.

Elisa: Could you tell me about a past life you think it might be good to hear about?

Michael: This fragment, Elisa, has had several lifetimes in the work of healing. During one of these lives she was a village midwife/herbalist. Along with aiding in the delivery of several dozen children during her life, she was able to improve the health of those who consulted her by suggesting changes in habits and in offering simples for minor ailments. One such assistance involved a charcoal burner's apprentice. This very young male had what is now known as asthma and often became blue for lack of enough oxygen intake.

The herbalist was able to persuade his master to forego the apprentice's continued assistance, allowing the young man to enter into another apprenticeship, this time with a dairyman. The life of this woman was moderately long for the time, we would say this was during some five centuries ago in the northern forests of the Asian continent. The lessons learned were patience, the practice of generosity, and the sense of humility for knowing how often she was unable to prevent great suffering.

Bobby Arant: Nancy, I sent you a photo today of Betty D. who is the mother of my partner Marty, also in the photo. Betty died around Oct 3rd, 2009. I felt she came and gave me a very short but clear message just after she died. I was wondering if Michael cared to briefly comment on that message or even the idea of being able to give a message after death to someone still extant.

Michael: When the fragment has finished with the physical body of an incarnation and arrives on the Astral Plan to begin its between-lives life, it often feels the need to connect with the Physical Plane 'just one more time'. This is the situation with this female Elizabeth. Her need to connect with the man Bobby was a part of her concern for her son Martin. This message, therefore, was directed at her son's partner, not to him.

Such concern is not at all unusual and being able to pass a message to a fragment on the physical plane is relatively easy in the early stages of the soul's journey after death.

Bobby: Elizabeth? Are you getting that name as well as Betty?

NancyG: (This was what Michael wanted to say. Is it not correct?)

Bobby: I knew her by Betty, not sure of her middle name.

Wilma: I feel such a love for Britain and I feel so at home there. Can you tell me something brief about any of the lives I've spent there - time periods, activities, and any lessons learned?

Michael: Many of our students in this part of the world have spent lifetimes in the islands of Britain. This is true of the woman Wilma as it is true of some others of you here tonight. One lifetime that we would describe for the fragment Wilma was lived in the coastal region along the western edge of the land, a male life, some three hundred years ago.

The work of this life was centered on working with animals, mostly sheep and goats. As a herdsman, the fragment was thought to be better off than most since he owned his flock and was not just a shepherd for a local master. A small flock, it is true, but all his. His mate died soon after bearing a fourth child. With a second mate he fathered three more, all sons. Of the seven children, two lived to maturity. The lessons of this life were grounded in his goal of acceptance and his attitude of pragmatist, both of which were expanding his grasp of his task, that of being faithful to his responsibilities.

Wilma: Was weaving involved? And I bet that's why when I went to Wales I thought the flocks of sheep were so appealing, I've always thought goats are cute.

Michael: The weaving done in that family was the mate's doing. However, the shearing and preparation for spinning was done by the man. The wool was not especially fine and the woven cloths were not soft, but were warm and brought extra barter possibilities for the family.

Dan R: Michael, could you please comment on the beat rhythms to induce meditative states, such as the beat rhythms used by Kelly Howell at Brainsync? (I sent Nancy a photo of Kelly Howell earlier.)

[NancyG] (Dan, I took your question to Michael before we met tonight and the following was their comments.)

Michael: We would say that these frequencies may be used to relax the physical mind toward a degree of trance, useful for meditation and perhaps even contemplation. We do not, however, suggest that they by themselves will trigger access to the higher centers. Which higher center is wanted? The intellectual center responds to thought and the application of thought toward the return of thought as ideas. The Higher Intellectual Center processes thought into a cohesion, integrating idea and knowledge into a knowing that transcends reason.

The Higher Emotional Center takes the fragment into the area of empathy, transcending just knowing to feeling connections beyond knowledge. The Higher Moving Center to the Physical or Sensual Center is bound by heightened sense rapport.

These are not achievements that can be done by command, usually. They are not arenas where the fragments of the Physical Plane can 'live' for any length of time. Nor are they generally at the command of the individual. Opening a door into the higher centers usually takes the endurance or experience of some triggering element that conforms to the energy of the center. If the use of these aids as described opens the fragment to reaching into the realm of the meta-physical and thus allows other elements to operate, unfettered by thought or sentiment or physical energy, then we do not see why they should not be tried, in careful and very short attempts. One word of warning, however: It may be difficult for the fragment who uses this means to discern the difference between the returning sensations of mere relaxation and the actual attainment of the higher center.

Maria Beban: Can you talk a little about addiction/escapism as it might pertain to a Chief Feature of Stubbornness? I hope that doesn't sound too vague, I'm trying to make it a depersonalize the question.

Michael: Stubbornness is a means for protecting the false personality from change. By digging in, so to speak, and being unwilling to accept an alternative to any experience, the fragment protects itself from any number of possibilities, both positive and negative outcomes. In general we would say that the connection between such a determination and the qualities that are inherent in addictions will make letting go of the latter extremely difficult.

Since the propensity of the stubborn one is to retain any choice once made, it would not be easy for him/her to decide that addiction as a choice of escaping the problems of the Physical Plane was truly a 'choice' at all. For the stubborn one We would say, therefore, that this combination of overleaf and choice makes for serious barriers to change.

Brian: Michael. could you describe a lifetime of mine in which there was much progress in the evolution of my Essence?

Michael: We would like to take this opportunity to remind all of you that evolution toward Agape is the goal of existence, on the Physical Plane and on all the planes beyond. We also are evolving toward Agape and only the final return to the Tao will end the journey.

That being said, some lifetimes make greater progress than do others. The man Brian lived such a one four lifetimes ago when he gave up his life in the service of preventing the death of another. This was not a karmic repayment, but rather a philanthropic action based on the unconditional love he had for the fragment in question.

This action took place when a male, unknown to the fragment now known as Brian, was in the way of a runaway horse-drawn wagon. The then Brian threw himself against the male, causing him to fall out of the path of the animal but putting the man Brian at risk. His action resulted in his being trampled to death. We have said this was an expression of unconditional love since there was no expectation of any return for the action. The putting of oneself at risk for another without wanting something in return always results in progression in love.

Martha: Michael, can you tell me about a past life that has resonance to my current life?

Michael: There is a sense of connection with a life lived as a female, the wife of a potter. In that life there seems to have been a restlessness that lasted for the whole of the woman's existence. Restlessness that has echoes in the current life. When there is a sense of lack or of something left unfinished, this energy can be brought forward into later lives until it is satisfied.

Lane Fragomeli: Is there a more precise way to tell the difference between say, a stressful relationship and actual karmic ribbons? I was fired and it changed the course of my life. I certainly played a part in this scenario and can see that now. And yet, my former boss was a real prick. So in situations where 'it takes two to tango' are these karmic or just circumstances?

Michael: When there is karma involved there is a personal connection between two people that urges on the settlement of the debt. The agreement to resolve the karmic debt is usually made on the astral between the two fragments before they incarnate. In general, the repayment is not felt as comfortable by either of the principles, but especially not by the one being repaid. This may be the best measure of whether a situation is karmic or 'just circumstances'.

Kathryn: Michael, the back and inside of my right knee has been very painful lately. Is this still the existing damage from a riding accident 30+ years ago and relatively stable but just aching, or is it getting worse, or is it something else entirely for which I should seek medical attention? It has not hurt this long or badly for a long time.

Michael: We would say that time has caught up with you, Kathryn. Yes, the knee injury is the result of the accident from the past, and yes, it is now getting worse, and yes, it might be best to seek a professional opinion of the damage.

Helen: Why is cynicism/skepticism considered neutral, and sentimentality an expression of CF?

Michael: The Cynic is on the Action axis and the Skeptic is on the Expression axis. Neither are Neutral. Sentimentality has elements of false personality, but is not specifically associated with one of the Chief Features.

Helen: Why aren't they considered negative while sentimentality is an expression of CF? I love cynical comedy and skeptical investigations.

Michael: We do not understand this question.

Helen: It's something I read from MF. Why should sentimentality be part of CF?

Michael: Sentimentality is not a part of Chief Feature. Among these overleaves, Cynic and Skeptic are choices. The expression of them can be made by any fragment, however. Sentimentality is the negative pole of the Emotional Center, not part of Chief Feature.

Helen: Why is it considered negative in your opinion?

Michael: We do not have opinions.

Helen: You don't? You can't agree on anything?

Michael: According to our understanding of the way the universe is organized Sentimentality is the negative pole of the Emotional Center.

Helen: You're just stating facts? Thank you very much. I've been wondering a long time.


Closing Comments

Michael: We believe it might be appropriate to remind you that We, as a united Causal Plane Entity, have chosen to bring the message of Agape and the tools for making your journey through the Physical Plane a little more comprehensible. When there is understanding of how and why, it becomes easier to work through the maya of this existence. We are not the oracle of Delphi, nor are we the guardians of every bit of information available through the Akashic Records. We do have a clearer perspective on information than do fragments confined to the Physical Plane, but other than that clearer vision, We also are evolving toward the perfection that return to the Tao will be. Each of you has your path for this lifetime. It is Our hope that the tools We offer in the message that We bring will assist you in making your journey one of wakefulness. Those who do not understand that they can journey in the waking sleep are more likely to find the going much harder. Go in peace.

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