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 Sept 3, 1974



(The group discussed car-camping plans for the coming weekend at Henry Cowell State Park.)

In view of my niece’s appendix which ruptured, does Michael’s answer from last time still hold? (The illness had served its purpose for her and those around her were tiring of the illness.)

SHE WILL BE WELL SOON. THIS IS AS WE SAID BEFORE. FEW PEOPLE CHOOSE THIS. MANY CHOOSE ONLY TO HAVE THE SYMPTOMS, BUT THERE IS A HIGH ENOUGH INCIDENCE OF BONA FIDE INFECTION AMONG THE GENERAL POPULATION. JUST STOP AND THINK FOR AWHILE ABOUT HOW MANY OF YOUR ACQUAINTANCES HAVE HAD THEIR APPENDIXES REMOVED, AS AGAINST ALL YOUR ACQUAINTANCES. ALSO, WHAT DID SHE ACCOMPLISH THAT WOULD NOT HAVE COME ABOUT HAD SHE NOT BECOME ILL? DON’T MISUNDERSTAND, THIS IS CERTAINLY NOT ON A CONSCIOUS LEVEL. THE LADY WOULD NOT UNDERSTAND AT ALL.

Just what did she accomplish? Is it necessary for a king to experience attention focused on herself, or what?

THE CHILD, P., IS IN A SEQUENCE WITH THE LADY WHO IS NOW HER MOTHER. THIS IS ONLY ONE OF MANY SUCH SEQUENCES THAT THESE TWO HAVE PLAYED OUT. YES, THE FOCUS OF ATTENTION IS A GREAT DESIRE FOR THIS CHILD AT THIS TIME IN HER LIFE, ESPECIALLY SINCE THERE IS SOME RIVALRY.

_____: Is it sibling rivalry or parent-child rivalry or what?

_____: Can you see giving yourself retrocecal appendicitis? Sounds like bullshit to me, giving yourself appendicitis for attention?

_____: Does it have anything to do with her swimming? — her mother wants her to.

NO.

______: I believe that all thought creates. You can be susceptible. you may not be able to pick the kind of illness you have but you make yourself more susceptible.

______: There are so many facets we’re unaware of that it doesn’t help to ruminate.

_____: I’ll be able to believe this when you can pick the people in advance who will have cancer or whatever disease. It seems to me that you are putting it on people when you tell them they have created their cancer.

_____: I don’t know it, but I feel they do. I give them the possibility that they have created it. There are too many variables.

_____: People do create colds.

(Since we did not seem to be going anywhere with this discussion, the subject changed.)

I would like to ask about _____, who is staying with us. It was said that I have a Sequence with him to give him shelter. He’s been an alcoholic, and I feel he can stay while he becomes situated in college, and then I’d like him to leave. Would this compromise the agreement to offer him shelter.

GIVEN THIS MAN’S HISTORY, YOUR DECISION WILL GIVE HIM THE TIME TO DELAY ANY DECISIONS ON HIS PART, AND, HOPEFULLY, BY THE TIME THE BREATHER IS OVER, YOU MAY CHANGE YOUR MIND AND ALLOW HIM TO STAY LONGER. THIS COULD, OF COURSE, GO ON FOR MANY MONTHS, AND THEN HE WOULD NEVER HAVE TO DECIDE FOR HIMSELF. YOU HAVE OFFERED HIM SHELTER; NOW THIS MAN IS BORED AND DEPRESSED BUT WEAK AND DEPENDENT, YES, AND WISHES A PLEASANT SOLUTION FOR HIS BOREDOM. WE DOUBT SERIOUSLY THAT HE WILL CARRY OUT HIS DESIRE ACADEMICALLY, AS THIS PART OF HIS LIFE HAS BEEN MARKED BY FITS AND STARTS. HE COULD BE GENTLY PRODDED TOWARD A MORE ACTIVE AND INDEPENDENT LIFE. ONE CAUTION, HOWEVER, M., IF HE BEGINS TO DRINK AGAIN AS A RESULT OF THIS FORCED INDEPENDENCE, IT IS NOT BECAUSE OF ANYTHING YOU HAVE DONE OR NOT DONE: IT IS BECAUSE HE WILL CHOOSE TO DRINK.

Where does the boredom come from? (Many offered an angle: Rationalization for our emotions we do not understand; the result when one couldn’t find others to do what he wanted.) What is the difference between boredom and depression?

WE WOULD SAY THAT THE LINE IS EXCEEDINGLY THIN, ALMOST INVISIBLE. BOREDOM NORMALLY COMES ABOUT WHEN THE INDIVIDUAL IS UNABLE TO MELD HIS FANTASY WITH THE REALITIES OF EVERYDAY LIFE, AND THIS INCLUDES FANTASIED EXPECTATIONS OF THOSE AROUND HIM, SUCH AS THOSE THE MAN, _____, HAS OF THE MAN _____, AND _____.

What does _____ expect besides service and a home? All his decisions are made for him. Can he understand his fantasizing, given his Overleaves?

NO.

Michael’s prediction that if Gerald Ford were to become president, there would be an assassination within hours creates a credibility gap. I remember that it was predicted that Alexander Haig, his Chief of Staff, would be in a position to take over the military for Nixon. Could we have a comment on this credibility gap in Michael’s predictions?

WE DO NOT SEE THE FUTURE. WE SEE ONLY THE ALTERNATIVES AS FAR AS MIND PATTERNS AND ENERGY LEVELS ARE CONCERNED. WE CAN PREDICT ONLY THE ALTERNATIVES, NOT THE CERTAINTIES. ALSO, IT STANDS THAT THIS GOVERNMENT IS NO BETTER OFF THAN IT WAS WITH THE MAN, RICHARD. THE MAN GERALD IS A LITTLE MORE HONEST IN HIS FINANCIAL AFFAIRS, AND IS [more honest] AS FAS AS HIS PHILOSOPHICAL CONSIDERATIONS CONCERNING THE RIGHT TO PRIVACY. YES, THERE ARE STILL THOSE WHO WOULD SEE HIM DEAD.

_____ questioned credibility of information coming through her.

_____: I have no idea where this comes from.

_____: Are you saying you think it comes from you?

SC: No.

______: We’re all limited. Perhaps it is garbled, but don’t throw out the baby with the bath water.

______: Are you saying you do not wish to do this anymore? Are you saying you take responsibility for the credibility of what come through the board?

SC: Yes.

_____: Do you think we want you to predict the future?

SC: No.

_____: For me, my intuitions verify for me and I just know.

SC: The Overleaves are verifiable.

Could you comment on Sigmund Freud’s “Oedipus Complex”?

THE IMPRINTING DISCOVERED BY FREUD IS NOT NORMAL IMPRINTING, AND IS PERHAPS THEN ONLY A “HALF-TRUTH”. THIS IMPRINTING IS THE RESULT OF AN ALIENATED SOCIETY WITH LIMITED IDENTIFICATION. IN SOCIETIES WHERE THE ALIENATED NUCLEAR FAMILY DOES NOT EXIST, THIS PHENOMENON DOES NOT EXIST. INTENSE RIVALRY WILL PRODUCE THIS PHENOMENON EACH TIME IT OCCURS, TO EXALTED ROLES MORE THAN OTHERS. IT WILL BE MORE NOTICEABLE IN FEMININE ROLES IN MASCULINE BODIES AND THE VICE VERSA. WHERE EXPOSURE TO MODELS IS LIMITED, THE PHENOMENON WILL BE MOST MARKED, AND WILL HAVE THE MOST FAR-REACHING CONSEQUENCES, IN THIS SOCIETY, ESPECIALLY WHERE SELDOM MORE THAN TWO GENERATIONS OCCUPY THE SAME LIVING QUARTERS.

Michael is dealing with this society, and not an ideal society. It makes the teaching unreachable because we are not ideal.

THE CHANGE, HOWEVER FAR-FETCHED IT MAY SEEM THOUGH, IS A VIABLE ALTERNATIVE. OTHERWISE YOU MUST DEAL INDIVIDUALLY WITH THOSE CONFLICTS AS YOU HAVE DONE, R. IN OTHER WORDS, YOU MUST EITHER HELP TO CHANGE THE CAUSE, OR CONTINUE TO TREAT THE EFFECT. IN SITUATIONS WHERE THERE IS ONLY ONE MALE AND ONE FEMALE TO EMULATE, THIS AND MANY OTHER ABNORMAL IMPRINTINGS ARE INEVITABLY GOING TO OCCUR, DEPENDING UPON THE OVERLEAVES OF THE ADULTS DURING THE IMPRINTING. WE ARE SUGGESTING TO YOU HOW THIS CAN BE EXPRESSED, IN SEMANTICS WHICH CAN BE UNDERSTOOD BY OTHERS.

So, explain.

WE ARE SUGGESTING THAT YOU EXPRESS IT IN SUCH A WAY THAT THIS CAN BE UNDERSTOOD BY OTHERS AS THE CAUSE OF THIS PHENOMENON WHICH YOU HAVE DISCOVERED WITHIN YOURSELF. WE ARE DISCUSSING NOW THE RIVALRY THAT OCCURS BETWEEN THE CHILD AND THE SAME SEX PARENT.

When we were talking about my niece who is ill, was the rivalry with her sister? Is she a Mature Priest?

THIS YOUNGSTER IS A THIRD LEVEL MATURE PRIEST IN ACCEPTANCE, YES.

Michael has a job to do, too, as I see it, and that is to produce #4 and #5 people in his teaching. (See In Search of the Miraculous, by P.D.Ouspensy, for enlightenment on men with numbers. The index will guide you.) If Michael is sensitive, he will help us solve our internal problems. The discovery track of what we are has to be complete before becoming a #4 or #5 man. Comment, please.

WE HAVE GIVEN YOU THE TOOLS BY WHICH YOU CAN DISCOVER THESE WITHIN YOURSELF. TELLING YOU WHERE THE PROBLEM AREAS ARE WOULD PRODUCE THE SAME INITIAL HOSTILITY AND RESENTMENT AS HEARING IT FROM A PSYCHOLOGIST WOULD. WHEN YOU DISCOVER THEM WITHIN YOURSELF, YOU ALSO AT THAT TIME VERIFY THEM FOR YOURSELF, AND THEN THEY ARE TRUTH FOR YOU. UNTIL THEN, THEY ARE MERELY THE OPINIONS OF ANOTHER. POINTING TO THE TOOLS IS SOMETIMES NOT ENOUGH, AND THE PATH IS AGONIZINGLY SLOW. WE WOULD SAY THAT THE CONSCIOUS BEINGS YOU HAVE MENTIONED (Jesus, Fulton Sheen, Gandhi, etc.), WERE NOT GIVEN MORE THAN THE TOOLS IN THE BEGINNING. AS YOU BEGIN TO USE THE TOOLS, THEN YOU ARE GIVEN MORE MATERIAL TO WORK ON. ONLY THEN CAN THE PATH BE TRODDEN IN A STRAIGHT LINE. UNTIL YOU BEGIN TO USE THE TOOLS, ALL YOU HAVE IS INFORMATION, AND MORE INFORMATION CAN HINDER YOUR GROWTH RATHER THAN HELP IT, IF ALL PREVIOUS DATA HAS NOT BEEN ASSIMILATED. ONE OF THE THINGS YOU HAVE NOT VERIFIED TO YOUR SATISFACTION IS YOUR OWN ABILITY TO CHANGE SOME OF YOUR UNCOMFORTABLE OVERLEAVES, AND UNTIL YOU DO, ALL LESSONS CONCERNING THE HOW TO OF MORE DIFFICULT TASKS WOULD BE IN VAIN. ALL IS CHANGEABLE. NOTHING IS STATIONARY.

At work at first it was exhilarating and I thought I was in essence. Now I’m wondering if my supporting the patient’s emotional gratification is a Priesty thing and not a Slave thing. I feel it may be false personality.

MOSTLY THE FALSE PERSONALITY IS PLEASED BY THE RESPONSE TO THE MINISTRATION, YES.

What is going on with J and myself at parties?

THIS IS NOT SO MUCH FALSE PERSONALITY AS IT IS THE RESULT OF SEQUENTIAL BEHAVIOR AND THE FACT THAT THERE IS A GOOD DEAL OF ONE-UPMANSHIP (a mechanical response to attempt at the last word, or topping the other person involved) IN THE RELATIONSHIP.

I would like a comment on RB’s statement that some people are moving toward brilliance in this life, and some toward seclusion. I feel I’m moving toward the latter.

AT THE PRESENT, YES YOU ARE, BUT THIS DOES NOT NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE. THE NEED IS GREAT IN YOU TO BE A TEACHER, BUT NOW YOU DO NEED THE SOLITUDE WHICH YOUR PRESENT SITUATION DOES NOT ALLOW FOR. WE WOULD SAY THAT THIS DEMARCATION IS NOT AS MARKED OR AS FINAL AS YOU MAY HAVE INTERPRETED FROM THE MAN, R.B.. IN OTHER WORDS, THESE ARE NOT TWO SEPARATE PATHS HERE; [they are] ONE PATH WITH TWO SIDE PATHS, WHICH DO NOT NEED TO LAST A LIFETIME. NOW YOU ARE SEEKING WHAT YOU NEED.

RB used to say that there are three ways a teaching could go: love, sympathy, and denial. I have a feeling my way would be denial. Comment, please.

WE WOULD LIKE TO AMEND THAT TO “LOVE, EMPATHY, AND DENIAL”. WE FEEL THAT THE MOST EFFECTIVE TEACHERS, AMONG WHOM WAS JESUS, USED ALL THREE. IT IS THE SUCCESSFUL INTEGRATION THAT SEPARATES.



 

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