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Present: PJ, ET and ST, RH and AH, SC and RC.
WE ARE HERE WITH YOU. A.H. HAS ALWAYS TAKEN A
SUBORDINATE ROLE. SHE OBJECTS
TO IT NOW FOR THE FIRST TIME.
AH: Would Reichian Therapy help me? I see it
making changes in some of my
NO. IT WOULD NOT BE OF ASSISTANCE BECAUSE YOU
HAVE WITHIN YOURSELF THE
ANSWER AND CAN FIND IT FOR YOURSELF. THEY CAN
ONLY HELP THOSE WHO ARE
ENMIRED IN THE WORLD OF FALSE PERCEPTIONS.
RH: AH downs herself or else is giving expert
advice. It seems like it's a
THE ADVICE-GIVING-MOTHERING COMPLEX IS A PART OF
FALSE PERSONALITY. THIS CAN
BE COUNTERACTED ONLY BE REALIZING THAT THE
SOLUTION TO A "PROBLEM" RESIDES
ONLY IN THE ONE INVOLVED. A.H. CANNOT SOLVE
ANYTHING FOR ANYONE BUT A.H.
RH: How about the putting of herself down?
SELF DEPRECATION IS CHIEF FEATURE FOR A.H. IT
STEMS FROM KARMIC RIBBONS WITH
[husband] R.H. AND [daughter] K.H. YOU HAVE
ALWAYS BEEN IN AWE OF K.H. THIS
IS NOT A NEW EMOTION FOR YOU. S.C. FEELS THAT
TOO. K.H. HAS BEEN INFLUENTIAL
IN ALL OF YOUR LIVES, BUT MORE PERSONALLY FOR
A.H. A.H. HAS SERVED UNDER
K.H. AS A SLAVE, A SOLDIER, AND A NUN.
AH: Do I resent this?
YOU CANNOT DIVORCE KNOWLEDGE OF THE HATS SHE HAS
WORN FROM HER PRESENT ROLE.
THE FEELING IS NOT BAD WORK. IN FACT, IT SHOWS
CONSIDERABLE EVOLUTION. A
YOUNGER SOUL WOULD NOT PERCEIVE THIS AT ALL AND
WOULD MERELY CHOOSE NOT TO
UNDERSTAND THE CHILD. THE FACT THAT A.H. HAS
ALWAYS REALIZED THAT K.H. WAS
SOMEHOW "DIFFERENT" POINTS TOWARD EVOLUTION.
A.H. PUSHED FOR CONFORMITY IN
THE OTHERS MUCH MORE THAN IN K.H. THE CONFORMITY
WAS MINIMAL, BUT THERE
NEVERTHELESS. S.C. HAS DONE THE SAME WITH [her
daughter] D.C., FORTUNATELY.
THE OTHERS NEEDED THE GUIDANCE. K.H., R.H.Jr,
AND D.C. DID NOT. TO REALIZE
THIS WAS IMPORTANT. TO ALLOW THEM TO FIND THEIR
OWN PATHS WAS OF PRIMARY
IMPORTANCE. THEY WOULD HAVE LEFT TO PURSUE THE
PATH AT AN EARLY AGE IF
PRESSURED. THIS WAY FRIENDLY RELATIONS WILL
PERSIST THROUGHOUT THIS
RH: I've often wondered if our having KH to go
to Esalen was good or bad for
her. She was the youngest they had ever had at
THE EXPERIENCE WAS NOT DEVASTATING FOR K.H.
THE BOOK D.C. READ TODAY WAS NOT AN ORDINARY
EXPERIENCE FOR A TWELVE YEAR
OLD, BUT FOR HER, IT WAS ORDINARY.
SC: That must be Ask Alice a story of a teenage
RC: Why do I feel your presence more strongly
when I am drunk?
YOU ARE LESS INHIBITED.
RH: Rodney Collin [a primary student of
Gurdjieff and Ouspensky] describes
in his book [The Theory of Celestial Influence]
that the key to
consciousness is great suffering, prison,
starvation, extreme illness,
abandonment, or ruin. These words have
contributed to my leaving a previous
teaching. I did not then nor do I now feel
prepared to accept voluntarily
these forms of extreme suffering in order to
pursue the "path". These things
have to be swallowed and not rebelled against.
THAT IS ESSENTIALLY CORRECT. HOWEVER, THE
TORTURE CAN BE INTERNAL AND CAN
REVOLVE AROUND THE CONFLICT OF INTEREST BETWEEN
ESSENCE AND FALSE
PERSONALITY. IT DOES NOT NECESSARILY HAVE TO
INVOLVE AN EXTERNAL AGENT.
RH: Personality does not die easily. Collin says
a person does not have a
soul until this occurs — some earthshaking thing
causes it to die.
IT IS, WE FEEL, A MATTER OF SEMANTICS. THE SOUL
IS THERE, NO MATTER HOW
RH: The teaching of Michael seems closer to
Collin than that of Gurdjieff or
GURDJIEFF WAS MISUNDERSTOOD BY OUSPENSKY, NOT SO
MUCH BY RODNEY.
RH: Endocrinology in Collin's book is in dire
conflict with modern day
YES, IT IS. HE MISUNDERSTOOD THE LIMITS OF
PLANETARY INFLUENCE WHERE DIET
AND INBORN GENETIC ERRORS ARE CONCERNED.
RH: If Michael is incorrect, it invalidates a
third of Collin's book.
THAT IS NOT NECESSARILY VALID. CERTAIN BODY
TYPES ARE FAR MORE PRONE TO
SPECIFIC ENDOCRINOLOGIC DISORDERS THAN OTHERS.
HOWEVER, THE AGE OF THE SOUL
COMES INTO PLAY AT THIS LEVEL.
RH: Are some people sexually centered?
NO. SEXUAL ENERGY IS SEPARATE AND APART FROM ALL
OTHER ENERGY SOURCES, AND
CAN BE EFFECTIVELY USED TO REACH HIGHER
PJ: If you experience sex on a higher level,
what would be going on?
CEREBRAL ORGASM. THE WHOLE SOUL EXPERIENCES
ECSTASY. THE BODY CANNOT
EXPERIENCE ECSTASY, ONLY SATIATION. ONLY THE
ESSENCE IS CAPABLE OF THAT
EXPERIENCE [of ecstasy].
RH: What planetary influence is PJ under?
P.J. IS HEAVILY UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF SATURN,
LESS SO MERCURY.
ET: I saw recently an old friend whom I hadn't
seen for several years. He's
a parapsychologist and mystic. He seemed just as
dogmatic as ever. He says
that any teaching that says that people change
sexes in their different
lifetimes is pure bilge, because if we knew
something of the origin of
creation and the true nature of twin souls, we
wouldn't have such terrible
conceptions. Could Michael comment on souls and
WE HAVE OFTEN REITERATED THAT BELIEF IS NOT
NECESSARY. THIS IS ANOTHER
EXAMPLE OF ONE DOGMA BEING MORE PALATABLE THAN
ANOTHER, AND THEREFORE
ACCEPTABLE. HE CANNOT ENVISION HIMSELF IN A
PHYSICAL BODY OF A FEMALE. PAUL
COULD NOT IMAGINE A MESSIAH WHO SWEAT, EITHER,
BUT JESUS DID.
ET: Was Ahura Mazda special? He's an Indian
THIS WAS AN ANCIENT TERM DENOTING THE
MANIFESTATION OF THE HIGHER MENTAL
BODY. THE FACT THAT WE ACCEPT NAMELESSNESS QUITE
CASUALLY, EVEN ON THIS
PLANE, IS ALMOST INCOMPREHENSIBLE TO MOST OF
THOSE ON THE PHYSICAL PLANE,
SINCE NAMES HAVE BECOME THE PRINCIPAL METHOD OF
IDENTITY, EVEN ASCENDANCY.
ET: Does that mean the high mental body is
expressing itself through RF?
ST: Who is manifesting through RF?
A MID CAUSAL TEACHER.
ET: Is this material that I have then, from this
mid causal teacher, of
THAT WHICH IS WITHOUT R.F.'S BIAS. THE
MANIFESTATION CAN BE PARTIALLY OR
WHOLLY BLOCKED BY A MEDIUM UNWILLING TO
APPREHEND CERTAIN FACTS.
THe question was lost, but the group was
discussing the fall of Icarus. RH
asked about Solar Bodytypes.
IF SUN SPOT ACTIVITY WAS GREAT AT THE TIME OF
CONCEPTION, THE BODYTYPE WILL
BE ARCHETYPAL; THE BODY WILL ALSO BE POWERFUL.
RC: Michael Gauquelin [a Frenchman who made a
scientific study of astrology]
says that sun spot activity is related somehow
to the position of the other
planets. Is this so?
RC: All astrological things are functions of sun
spots, and sun spots
determine the function of the other planets on
the ionization of the air.
HEAVY PLANETS AT APHELION CAUSE INCREASE IN SUN
SPOT ACTIVITY AND THEREFORE
VELOCITY OF SOLAR WIND.
RC: Is the sun the key or the catalyst for
BEING THE LARGEST OF THE NEARBY CELESTIAL
BODIES, THIS SMALL STAR EXERTS THE
MOST POWERFUL INFLUENCE PHYSICALLY.
RS: Is the influence of Jupiter upon us through
the sun, or is it direct?
IT'S MITIGATED BY THE SUN AND THE POSITION OF
THE OTHER LARGER BODIES.
SATURN AND JUPITER EXERT A POWERFUL INFLUENCE ON
EACH OTHER TO THE EXTENT
THAT THE SATELLITE OF SATURN CLOSEST TO THE
ORBIT OF JUPITER HAS AN
ET: Are these physical influences we can
measure? We know the planetary
effect is inversely proportional to the square
root of the distance between
them — Keppler's Law. Is it something else, like
THE DRAG OF THE HEAVY BODIES HAS A MAGNETIC
EFFECT ON THE STAR'S ABILITY TO
BURN HYDROGEN. WHEN THESE PLANETS ARE AT
APHELION [furthest from the sun],
THE DRAG IS LESS, AND SUNSPOT ACTIVITY
INCREASES. IONIZATION OCCURS IN THE
ATMOSPHERES OF VENUS, EARTH, AND MARS; TO A
LESSER EXTENT ON MERCURY, SINCE
THE ATMOSPHERE IS MORE TENUOUS. ORGANIC LIFE IS
EXTREMELY SENSITIVE TO
MINUTE CHANGES IN IONIZATION.
ET: Could you comment on the virtue of astrology
and the validity to this
THE POSITION OF ALL OF THE PLANETS AND THEIR
POSITION IN RELATION TO THE SUN
AND TO EACH OTHER MUST BE TAKEN INTO
CONSIDERATION. FOR INSTANCE, VENUS
WITHOUT THE INFLUENCE OF MARS EXERTS MUCH MORE
INFLUENCE THAN WHEN MARS IS
IN APPOSITION ON THE FAR SIDE OF EARTH.
RC: This question lost was lost.
THOSE WHO DO [this] STAND A BETTER CHANCE OF
RC: The planets are never in the same place in
relation to each other except
for mathematically every 24,000 years, so you
have varying degrees of
ionization (and possibilities). The Bodytyping
has to do with the planets at
mid-heaven at the time of conception. Jupiter
takes 12 years to do its thing
around the sun and its day is only 10 hours
RC: What is the effect of the DNA on conception?
Is it influenced by
THE RIBONUCLEIC ACIDS (are affected), NOT THE
RC: The messenger is DNA and can be called the
"printout" of the brain cell.
Does each strand of DNA have the potential of
becoming anything it is
Would two people conceived in the same room at
the same time have the same
Is ionization the key?
RC: Are these chemical or potential changes.
REAL, NOT POTENTIAL.
RC and RH: Are the changes in electrical field?
Ionization knocks out or
grossly distorts the code.
RC: We're dealing with very minute molecules and
every particle of DNA will
be affected. I want to know what the planetary
THE IONIZATION IS ONLY ONE FACTOR. THERE ARE
ALSO MINUTE CHANGES IN AIR
PRESSURE AND IN THE FORCE OF GRAVITY. THERE ARE
ALSO FLUCTUATIONS IN THE
CHEMICAL COMPOSITION OF THE ATMOSPHERE ITSELF.
ALL OF THESE TOGETHER PRODUCE
A STAMPING EFFECT ON THE ENCODING APPARATUS OF
ALL ORGANIC LIFE. WE SPEAK OF
ONLY THE PHYSICAL UNIT NOW.
RH: How do these influences affect us?
THEY ONLY INFLUENCE THE SOUL TO THE EXTENT THAT
THEY INFLUENCE FALSE
PERSONALITY. THE SOUL IS NOT UNDER PHYSICAL
ET: We ask all these questions and yet we don't
know anything about our
Monad, our unit, our bodies, our physical, our
mental, astral, and causal.
RC: I don't think we're going to become
conscious beings working the Ouija
SC: Someone is going to have to break away and
give the information.
PJ: Who is Crystal?
She is Tomas's soul mate.
RH: What has PJ done in her male lives before?
PJ: I haven't had any male lives.
SHE DOES NOT WISH TO PERCEIVE HERSELF AS SUCH.
We discussed how women were or were not
accountable for their crimes. When
governments become feminine, they become
decadent and fall. Female murderers
many times are not held for their crimes. Juries
are prejudiced. Only one
woman in the history of California was executed.
In jobs, when women make a
mistake, they are not called to task — it's
passed off with, "she's a woman,
she can's help it". Women will never be
liberated until men are liberated
when the employers can deal with women as they
do with men.
ST: Men are extremely intolerant of mistakes
that women make.
RH: Could we have a statement on race.
THERE ARE SCHOLARS IN ALL RACES. SOME CULTURES
PLACE GREAT EMPHASIS ON
INTELLECTUAL PURSUITS. TESTING THESE CULTURES
WOULD RESULT IN A
PREPONDERANCE OF INTELLECTUALLY-ORIENTED
YOUNGSTERS. SOME CULTURES ARE
CONCERNED PRIMARILY WITH SURVIVAL IN A HOSTILE
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