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WE ARE HERE WITH YOU TONIGHT.
RH: I would like to know how to burn karma.
IF YOU ARE TO PURPOSEFULLY BURN RIBBONS, YOU
MUST FIRST KNOW WITH CERTAINTY
WHAT HAS BEEN INCURRED. THIS TAKES STUDY AND
RECALL. OTHERWISE YOU WILL PAY
YOUR KARMIC DEBTS IN THEIR NATURAL ORDER. THIS
IS WHY THE KNOWLEDGE OF
REINCARNATION COMES IN SOME WAY TO ALL OLD
SOULS. PRIOR TO THAT, IT IS ONLY
A MATTER OF CHANCE, SUCH AS BIRTH IN A COUNTRY
SUCH AS INDIA WHERE THIS IS
THE ACCEPTED THEOLOGY.
Is burning a karmic ribbon always a negative
SOMETIMES YOU ARE THE DEBTOR. SOMETIMES IT IS TO
YOU THAT THE DEBT IS OWED.
THE RIBBON IS THE THREAD THAT LINKS YOU TO THE
OTHER FRAGMENTS OF A KARMIC
PLAY. YOU WISH TO COMPLETE THE MONAD. AS SOON AS
THIS IS ACCOMPLISHED, THE
FRAGMENT HAS EVOLVED. AS SOON AS THE MAJOR
MONADS ARE COMPLETED, THE
FRAGMENTS ARE INTEGRATED.
RH asked for assistance with an emotional
problem concerning the inhibitory
influence of another person, no longer in the
picture, but still on his
mind. He wishes to break away, but somehow
WHEN YOU TRULY WISH TO BE FREE OF THAT
INFLUENCE, TRY MAKING A MENTAL TALLY
OF ALL POSITIVE EXPERIENCES THAT HAVE COME ABOUT
SOLELY AS A RESULT OF THAT
RH stated that he felt only rejection, sorrow
and loss, and that he could
see those blocking his ability to love (fear of
this happening over again).
IN THAT RELATIONSHIP, YOU WERE ABLE TO GIVE THE
GIFT OF HIGHER EXPRESSION.
IT WAS NOT RECIPROCAL BECAUSE SHE WAS NOT IN
TOUCH WITH HIGHER CENTERS, BUT
SHE HAS ALSO MEMORIES. THIS IS OFTEN THE CASE.
YOU COULD NOT RECAPTURE THAT
EXPERIENCE, BUT YOU COULD DUPLICATE THE HIGHER
EMOTIONAL ENERGY OUTPUT — NOW
ESPECIALLY. BUT FIRST, YOU MUST STOP EQUATING
THE EXPERIENCE YOU HAD WITH A
SPECIFIC PARTNER. IT WAS YOUR EXPERIENCE. YOU
WERE READY TO HAVE IT.
RH: If it is intellectual, it is easy to change,
but if it is emotional, it
is difficult to deal with.
THE EMOTION HE IS DEALING WITH NOW IS GRIEF.
THIS IS DIFFICULT TO OVERCOME
UNTIL THE DUPLICATION IS ACCOMPLISHED. R.H. MUST
ALLOW HIMSELF TO LOVE.
RH related the Gurdjieffian analogy of the horse
Center, the carriage Intellectual, etc. The
grief produces a "sick horse".
YOUNG SOULS WHO LOSE A CHILD THROUGH TRAUMA OR
ILLNESS OFTEN SEEK TO REPLACE
THAT CHILD, AND IN SO DOING MAKE LIFE MISERABLE
FOR THE SECOND CHILD, WHO
DOES NOT, OF COURSE, REPLACE THE LOST ONE.
RH: I don't understand that. What does that
YOU CAN ONLY DUPLICATE THE ENERGY OUTPUT; YOU
CANNOT DUPLICATE THE
RH: Am I dealing with some form of the Oedipal
FIRST OF ALL, THE OEDIPAL MYTH IS CULTURALLY
INDUCED AND DOES NOT HAVE THAT
MUCH INFLUENCE AT YOUR LEVEL [soul Age].
SECONDLY, THE GRIEF STEMS FROM NOT
BEING ABLE TO RECAPTURE WHAT WAS FOR YOU AN
EXTREMELY IMPORTANT EVOLUTIONARY
MILESTONE. SHE HAPPENED ALONG AT THAT TIME IN
RH: What now?
REALIZE THAT YOU CAN DUPLICATE THE FEELING. THE
GRIEF IS A NORMAL REACTION
TO THE LOSS.
RH: But isn't it abnormal for it to last this
MATURE SOULS OFTEN TORCH-BURN FOR THEIR ENTIRE
LIVES. THIS IS NOT UNUSUAL
FOR INTELLECTUALLY CENTERED INDIVIDUALS WHEN
THEY ARE FIRST IN TOUCH WITH
HIGHER EMOTIONS. R.H., YOU LACK CONFIDENCE IN
YOUR EMOTIONS. REJECTION, OR
THE SENSE OF REJECTION, PRODUCES THIS IN SOULS
WHO STILL CLING TO THE
[false] CONCEPT OF EROS [romantic sexual love],
AND TO THE [false] CONCEPT
OF CHOOSING WHOM TO LOVE.
RH: This means you can't chose who you love?
SC: It's sad that most souls feel they loved in
vain because they can't
accept the love from those offering it.
RH: Am I correct in assuming that this is why I
don't have any energy?
EMOTIONALLY, YES. YOU ARE ALSO [physically]
RH: But this also produces boredom.
AH related an incident occurring on a camping
trip in the wilderness.
Because C developed ear problems, she had to
leave suddenly and said good-by
to the other seven people. She felt good
emotional vibrations in saying
good-bye to six of the people, but did not have
any particular emotions when
saying good-bye to YS [someone they knew from
RB's Gurdjieff group]. She
HIS ESSENCE IS NOT IN EMOTION. HE IS AN OLD SOUL
WHO IS INTELLECTUALLY
CENTERED. HE FEELS THAT HE IS MOVING CENTERED
AND REJECTS THIS CONCEPT.
HOWEVER, IT IS DIFFICULT TO COME INTO EMOTIONAL
CONTACT WITH HIM. E.S. [his
brother] IS QUITE DIFFERENT.
AH stated that she felt the emotional conflict
with JF-S, who is also
intellectually centered, and wondered why. RH
said that he felt it was
because JF-S was intellectually centered and YS
THAT IS CORRECT.
SC discussed being moving centered, and the
group asked for a clarification
S.C. IS MOVING CENTERED, BUT IS MOVING TOWARD
INTEGRATION AND CAN TOUCH
SC: Well, I guess I skipped Emotional Center!
RH: I would like to know about BS's level.
B.S. IS A FINAL LEVEL MATURE SOUL.
RH: BS had a lot of power — emotional strength.
I wonder about her Bodytype.
HER EMOTIONAL POWER CAME FROM HER ACTIVE
EMOTIONAL CENTER AND HER PERCEPTION
SC: I would like to know about BC.
RH: She's a Lunar. I'd like to know about BC
SHE WAS HEAVILY INFLUENCED BY VENUS, LESS BY THE
RH: Well, she's the strongest Venusian I've ever
known! What is SC's
S.C. IS ALMOST COMPLETELY UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF
MERCURY, LESS SATURNINE.
Someone asked whether it was necessary for us to
experience life in all of
the various body types.
YES, YOU MUST COMPLETE THE CYCLE. IT IS
IMPORTANT THAT YOU EXPERIENCE LIFE
FROM ALL OF THE VANTAGE POINTS. VENUS-INFLUENCED
FEMALES CAN BE QUITE STRONG
RH: What is the nature of the influence? I mean,
what comes from Venus?
A SPECIFIC TYPE OF ENERGY IS EMANATED BY THE
PLANET. EACH ONE OF THE PLANETS
IN THIS SOLAR SYSTEM HAS A VERY DIFFERENT
ATMOSPHERE AND EXERTS A DIFFERENT
INFLUENCE ON THE OTHERS. THOSE WITH THAT PLANET
HIGH WILL BE INFLUENCED BY
THAT PARTICULAR ENERGY.
RH: At what point does that influence take
place? I mean when is it put into
the genetic code? Also, the question was asked
about the meaning of the
THE PLANET AT MID-HEAVEN AT THE TIME OF
RC then asked question about the validity of
astrology as we know it. We
also wondered about the Gurdjieffian system.
[Astrology is] NOT [valid] AS YOU KNOW IT,
ALTHOUGH YOU HAVE GOOD
BEGINNINGS. GURDJIEFF DID SEE THIS. OUSPENSKY
REJECTED ASTROLOGY. IF YOU
CONSTRUCT CHARTS FOR ENTIRE FAMILIES, YOU WILL
FIND STRIKING SIMILARITIES.
RC: Michael Gauquelin [A Frenchman who made a
scientific study of astrology]
said a male child is conceived at the same time
that the male parent was
conceived; the female at the time of the female
parent. Some studies proved
blood plasma changes with ionization in the
atmosphere, and there is a
correlation. The planet on the horizon is the
important one genetically (the
"Ascendent"). The soul could influence its
SOULS ENTER THE PHYSICAL PLANE AT DIFFERENT
TIMES. THAT IS NOT VALID IN THAT
SENSE. THE BODY, BEING PHYSICAL, OR ORGANIC IF
YOU WILL, IS INFLUENCED BY
THE CELESTIAL BODIES.
Then Bodytyping is not genetically determined?
YES THEY ARE. EACH STRAND OF DEOXYRIBONUCLEIC
ACID IS TOTIPOTENTIAL. THIS
ALLOWS FOR THE INFLUENCE.
At what point does this influence take place,
when the sperm meets with the
ovum, or at the time of the first breath?
THIS IS WHY WE SAY THAT ASTROLOGY AS YOU KNOW IT
IS LARGELY INVALID.
HOWEVER, IRONICALLY WE MIGHT ADD, IT DOES WORK
BACKWARDS, UNLESS YOU ARE
DEALING WITH A PREMATURE CHILD.
Then astrology would be valid if we knew the
moment of conception?
YES. THE TIME OF BIRTH IS ALSO IMPORTANT.
Some say that the parents' attitudes manifest at
conception. This is why we
are admonished against lustful sex (by Gandhi).
Infant souls are only
capable of lust. Baby souls are often prudish.
We thought that perhaps this
admonition would only work for Old souls, but
that none of us was ready to
give up all lustful feelings.
WE DO NOT ENCOUNTER MUCH "LUST" IN ANY OF YOU.
SC: Lust seems to be coming from
Instinctive/Moving Center. I know I want
men as friends, but find this difficult.
AH: If I have strong attachments to a man, I
feel sex will be a part of the
SC: If sex is coming from the wrong Center, it's
all mixed up. I sometimes
feel like embracing men, but they would
interpret this as a sexual gesture.
RC: I would like to know my Bodytype and how I
MARS AND JUPITER ARE INFLUENCES. R.C. IS MOVING
AH: And my Bodytype?
MOSTLY LUNAR. YES, THERE IS SOME JOVIAN
RC: What is my Chief Feature?
MISGUIDED CONCERN; BETTER KNOWN IN SOME CIRCLES
AS HIDDEN HYPOCRISY. YOU ARE
NOT AWARE OF THE HYPOCRISY. IT APPEARS TO YOU AS
RC: I would like to ask if there is advice on
how to turn things around in
the right direction.
YOU ARE USING EMOTIONAL CENTER AS A PSYCHIC
DUMPING GROUND. THIS IS CAUSING
THE ENERGY LEAK YOU ARE FEELING NOW. THE
MEDITATIONS, OR MORE CORRECTLY
CONCENTRATIONS, UNDER MARIJUANA RESULT IN GOOD
INSIGHTS FOR YOU, IF YOU WILL
FOLLOW THEM OUT.
RC: Does this "misguided concern" primarily
IT STEMS FROM YOUR FEAR OF BEING EITHER
CHALLENGED OR REJECTED. [These are
part of the negative pole of the Goal of
Acceptance, later revealed to be
Comment: But Martials usually challenge. Is this
NOT NECESSARILY. HE IS QUITE WILLING TO
CHALLENGE. R.C. NEEDS TO ACQUIRE THE
WARMTH AND SPONTANEOUS SINCERITY OF THE JOVIAN
PERSONALITY. THIS WILL
REQUIRE DETACHMENT FROM THE RIGIDLY REHEARSED
SOCIAL AFFINITIES NOW TAKING
THE PLACE OF SPONTANEITY.
SC: What is my Chief Feature?
AH: And what is mine?
RH: But she is also always giving advice, to me
and to everyone else.
THIS IS A FEATURE OF THE FALSE PERSONALITY. THE
SELF-DEPRECATION IS A PART
OF KARMA FOR THE ESSENCE.
Someone in the group had a question about
Michael's use of "soul",
"Essence", and "self" interchangeably, and the
departure from the
Gurdieffian system where there is a False and
True Personality, and that
Essence and True Personality together form the
THE SOUL IS THE ESSENCE. THIS IS SYNONYMOUS WITH
"SELF". EVEN WE HAVE A
PERSONALITY; IT SIMPLY IS NO LONGER CHALLENGED
AH asked for some advice.
A.H. MUST WORK THROUGH HER PRIMARY OBSTACLE. THE
SELF-DEPRECATION IS ALSO
USED TO GAIN APPROVAL, OR, IN SOME INSTANCES,
RH: I would like to know about my Chief Feature.
YOU STILL HAVE SOME ELEMENTS OF SELF-PITY, NOT
AS PRONOUNCED AS BEFORE. THEY
ARE NOW CONFINED TO THE EMOTIONAL EXPERIENCE WE
DISCUSSED EARLIER, AND YOUR
JOB. THIS IS MARKEDLY IMPROVED.
SC: What should I do about my Chief Feature. I
don't know about it unless
someone photographs me.
RC: I did photograph you and you got uptight.
THAT IS A GOOD WAY. S.C. DOES AN EXCELLENT
PUT-DOWN, AND SHE SHOULD BE
CALLED ON IT WHEN IT OCCURS.
SC: Well I've always had a "sink or swim"
attitude toward others. This comes
out as Arrogance to RC.
RC: Is this a karmic thing?
YES. YOU WERE VERY ARROGANT BEFORE. S.C. WAS
Someone wanted to know if Michael could manifest
through any one in the
WE ARE CAPABLE OF MANIFESTING THROUGH YOU UNDER
HEAVY HYPNOTIC TRANCE — ALL
What happens to the Old soul when it is
displaced by the manifestation of
the Transcendental soul?
HE REMAINS AS A PART OF THE LOW ASTRAL BODY.
Then he doesn't automatically become a
NOT UNTIL HE BURNS THE REMAINING RIBBONS OR
CHOOSES TO BE REBORN.
RC: I would like to somehow recapture the
tranquillity I found at Tahoe. I
would like to spend tomorrow meditating and next
week meditating and
reflecting. How can I best do this?
CEASE INNER CONSIDERATION OF THE EFFECTS OF YOUR
ACTIONS ON OTHERS. YOU ARE
DOING NOTHING WRONG. WE FIND NO FAULT WITH YOUR
The session was terminated by mutual consent.
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