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 Sept 17, 1974



I would like to ask how to bring the perceptions of the Emotional Center and those of the Intellectual Center together to be balanced. Perceptions seems so limited: there is so much input and only one thing seems to get through.

Of course, the perceptions of one trapped in the intellectual center are going to be Based UPON what is thought, and will be largely analysis of the perception rather than a perception at all. The perception itself will be lost IN the analysis. The perceptions of one lost in the emotional center will be swamped by the feelings SURROUNDING the moment, and again the perception itself Will be lost to sight. This is what is meant, of course, by not EXPERIENCING ONE’S EXPERIENCES. Those trapped in the moving center will be already Planning or carrying out some action surrounding THE perception before it has time to register. No mechanical man is able to appreciate any experience fully because of this. ALL Perceptions are, of COURSE, stored, and can be recalled by the balanced man if need be. In order to perceive and experience A MOMENT IN TIME, all centers must be working (correctly).

Something will happen and later I will think about it, and evoke emotions which were not there in the original happening. How is it that I can have emotions in retrospect? It must be that they are there to begin with, but I don’t feel them.

MOST OF THE FEELINGS YOU DESCRIBE COME FROM THE EMOTIONAL PART OF INTELLECTUAL CENTER, WHICH IS ALWAYS INVOLVED IN ANALYSIS IN YOUR CASE.

I’ve read that, in Zen, once one has reached satori, he realizes he’s always been there. Does this mean that all the Centers are operating all the time, but we are not aware of them?

ALL CENTERS ARE NOT WORKING IN MECHANICAL MAN — THEY ARE ONLY POTENTIALLY WORKABLE. THIS IS WHY PERCEPTIONS OF MAN ARE SO INACCURATE AND SO SCATTERED. THIS IS THE REASON THAT CRIMINAL IDENTIFICATION IS SO FRAUGHT WITH ERROR. NO TWO SOULS PERCEIVE THE MOMENT IN PRECISELY THE SAME WAY, UNLESS, OF COURSE, YOU HAPPEN TO HAVE TWO BALANCED MEN.

Are there different kinds of energy flowing through men than through women?

THERE IS YIN AND YANG THROUGHOUT THE PHYSICAL UNIVERSE. EVEN WORLDS HAVE YIN AND YANG. THIS WORLD HAS A DECIDEDLY MASCULINE ESSENCE, WHICH EXPLAINS THE CULTURAL OPPRESSION OF THOSE IN FEMININE BODIES. BELIEVE IT OR NOT, ALL BE IT TODAY [sic], [this situation] HAS LARGELY BEEN PERPETUATED BY THOSE WITH MASCULINE ESSENCE TRAPPED IN FEMININE BODIES — IN OTHER WORDS, WARRIOR MOTHERS.

Why are there more women psychics than men?

IT IS TRUE, WOMEN ON THIS WORLD HAVE BEEN FAR FREER TO DREAM AND DABBLE IN THE OCCULT MUCH LONGER THAN HAVE MALES, BUT THE PERCENTAGE IS NOT AS LOPSIDED AS YOU MIGHT WISH TO BELIEVE. THERE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN SEERS WHO WERE MALES. THEY LARGELY KEPT THE SOURCE OF THEIR DREAMING QUIET IN ORDER TO AVOID SCORN OF THEIR COLLEAGUES. THE MAN ALBERT (Einstein) IS AN EXAMPLE. HE WOULD HAVE BEEN AN EXCELLENT “MEDIUM”; AS A MATTER OF FACT, HE WAS. TO US, MEDIUMSHIP IS MERELY A CAPTIVE WAY STATION THROUGH WHICH CERTAIN TRUTHS CAN BE BROUGHT TO BEAR. THIS MUST NATURALLY INVOLVE SOME TRAINING, AND MUCH INTELLIGENCE, IF FACTS CONCERNING THE PHYSICAL UNIVERSE ARE TO BE BROUGHT TO BEAR. FOR INSTANCE, THE NECESSARY VOCABULARY MUST BE AVAILABLE IN ORDER TO TRANSLATE THE MATERIAL. AS THE ENTITY BECOMES PROGRESSIVELY EVOLVED, AND THE LEARNING PROCESS MORE REFINED, THE CHOICE OF MEDIUMS AND THE INFORMATION TRANSMITTED BECOMES MORE REFINED ALSO.

In a balanced person, should the Intellectual Center be shut down until there is an actual problem to be solved?

THE INTELLECTUAL CENTER SHOULD BE FUNCTIONING AS A DECISION-MAKING PARTNER IN THE PROCESS. THE EMOTIONAL CENTER CANNOT MAKE DECISIONS PROPERLY, AS IT CANNOT THINK OUT THE RAMIFICATIONS OF ANY GIVEN SITUATION WITH THE SPEED NECESSARY TO MAKE A VALID, SPLIT-SECOND DECISION. THE INTELLECTUAL CENTER WORKS AT A FAR GREATER SPEED THAN DOES THE EMOTIONAL CENTER WHEN THE SOULS IS IN BALANCE. IN MECHANICAL MAN, THE MOVING CENTER TAKES OVER THE RAPID FUNCTIONS. THIS IS, OF COURSE, NECESSARY FOR SURVIVAL OF THE BODY, AS WHEN A HAND IS REMOVED FROM A HOT STOVE BY THE MOVING CENTER IN COOPERATION WITH THE INSTINCTIVE CENTER. IN BALANCED MAN, THE INTELLECTUAL CENTER CLAIMS ITS RIGHTFUL FUNCTIONING AND BECOME THE DECISION MAKER. IN OTHER WORDS, BALANCED MAN CHOOSES TO REMOVE THE HAND.

It seems to me that the Emotional Center knows the truth better than the Intellectual Center.

ESSENCE KNOWS TRUTH, AND ESSENCE MOST OFTEN MANIFESTS THROUGH EMOTIONAL CENTER IN GOOD STUDENTS. THIS IS PRIMARILY BECAUSE TRUTH IS NOT OFTEN READILY BELIEVED BY INTELLECTUAL CENTER — IT IS JUST NOT RATIONAL.

Gurdjieff said that the celestial bodies were conscious. Comment, please; and are people more masculine than the earth?

WE WOULD NOT GO SO FAR AS TO DESCRIBE CONSCIOUSNESS AS YOU KNOW IT TO THE CELESTIAL BODIES. HOWEVER, THE COMPOSITE OF INFLUENCES LIVING UPON THE BODY DO GIVE IT YIN AND YANG. THE MAN GEORGES (Gurdjieff) SENSED THIS. THERE IS A PREPONDERANCE OF WARRIORS AND SAGES UPON THIS BODY.

Is there a preponderance in certain areas?

UPON THIS PLANET.

How can I bring my Intellectual and Emotional Centers into phase?

WE DID, AT ONE TIME, GIVE YOU AN EXERCISE THAT HAS PROVED VALID FOR MANY, AND THAT IS OF CONCENTRATION OUTDOORS: THE EXERCISE OF VISUALIZING THE COUNTRYSIDE, FEELING THE SUN ON YOUR BACK, OF FEELING THE SUN ACTING UPON THE COUNTRYSIDE, OF FILLING THE MOMENT WITH AS MUCH OF THE ENVIRONMENT AS POSSIBLE. EACH TIME YOU PERFORM THIS EXERCISE, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO EMBRACE A BROADER PERSPECTIVE.

Is it the egotism of the Intellectual Center not to like housework, or is it a cultural thing?

THIS HAS LITTLE TO DO WITH CULTURE, SURPRISING ENOUGH. THE EXALTED ROLES FIND MUNDANE CHORES DISTASTEFUL, PARTICULARLY THOSE NOT IN THE MOVING CENTER. THE ORDINAL ROLES ACCEPT THEM IN MORE GRACE, BUT THERE AGAIN, THEY ARE OFTEN PREFERRED BY WARRIORS AND SCHOLARS SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY POINT TO EFFICIENCY AND THEREFORE TO WINNING.

We had a discussion here on [Carlos Castaneda’s] Don Juan’s “warrior” striving to be a man of knowledge and never giving up. We wondered what, if any, is the relationship of Don Juan’s warrior to Michael’s.

THE WARRIOR ESSENCE AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL ACCOMPLISHES MENTAL EFFICIENCY AND SEEKS THE KING; IN OTHER WORDS, SEEKS TO EXALT HIS ROLE.

Please comment regarding the statement you made earlier that “the King seeks the kingdom”.

THAT IS VALID, OR [the King seeks] THE TAO.

How can a Warrior evolve into a King? I thought we could not change Roles.

USUALLY THOSE WHO CHOSE ORDINAL ROLES COME TO THIS REALIZATION AT A LATER TIME THAN THOSE IN EXALTED ROLES, BUT THIS IS NOT ALWAYS THE CASE, ESPECIALLY IF THE ORDINAL SOUL MEETS WITH THE PROPER TEACHING.

What does the Scholar seek? (Intelligent person: “The great computer in the sky; maybe a library in the sky.”)

How can I tell when I’m in the Intellectual Center?

THERE IS A VAST DIFFERENCE IN THE SHEER EXPENDITURE OF ENERGY. THOSE WHO ARE TRAPPED IN THE MOVING CENTER EXPEND MORE PHYSICAL ENERGY THAN THOSE IN THE MOVING PART OF INTELLECTUAL CENTER. THE ENERGY SPENT IS OF A DIFFERENT QUALITY. OFTEN THE BODY IS NOT TIRED EVEN THOUGH TREMENDOUS AMOUNTS OF INTELLECTUAL ENERGY IS SPENT, CAUSING THE PERSON TO EXPEND FAR BEYOND ITS INTELLECTUAL CAPACITY FOR ACHIEVEMENT. HOWEVER, IN MOVING CENTERED SOULS THE REVERSE IS OFTEN TRUE. THEY SELDOM ARE ABLE TO WORK TO FULL INTELLECTUAL CAPACITY BECAUSE THE BODY TIRES SO RAPIDLY. ONCE THE BODY GOES TO SLEEP, THEN MECHANICAL MAN HAS LOST HIS HOLD ON THE INTELLECTUAL FUNCTIONING.

How could _____ tell if she is in her Intellectual Center?

BY HER ABILITY TO WORK STEADILY ON AN INTELLECTUALLY BASED PROJECT, NOT IN FITS AND STARTS SUCH AS SHE DOES NOW.

I wonder about my recent backpacking trips: how would this relate to my Centers? I stopped picking at my fingers, did not think, did not feel — I just was. I did not feel any more “awake” or more high. I feel uncomfortable because I feel I’m not accomplishing anything.

IT IS RELATED TO THE FACT THAT STUDENTS OFTEN EXPERIENCE AN ESSENCE OR BALANCED STATE FOR PROLONGED PERIODS WHEN REMOVED FROM THE MAYA, ERROR, FAMILIAR MAYA OF THEIR ENVIRONMENT, AND ARE FORCED TO “BE” IN THE MOMENT.

It is not a dramatic thing; it just is. A person in the present is not experiencing anything dramatic. Does a balanced man feel high? It was said last time that the “surge” comes when one becomes balanced.

IF THE MOMENT IS A QUIET ONE, BALANCED MAN WILL FEEL THE TRANQUILLITY. IF IT IS A “HIGH”, THEN BALANCED MAN WILL FEEL THE ECSTASY OF THE MOMENT. IRONICALLY, THE REVERSE IS OFTEN TRUE IN MECHANICAL MAN. YOUNG SOULS INVOLVED WITH ECOLOGY LEGALIZATION WILL OFTEN FEEL SURGES OF EMOTIONALISM WHEN CONFRONTED WITH A PACIFIC, WOODLAND ENVIRONMENT.

There is a strong physical resemblance between _____ and my essence twin soul. Were they brothers? What is the reason for my involvement with them? Is there some reason I choose to be with tall people?

THE RESEMBLANCE IS, OF COURSE, A CHANCE THING, BUT THE ATTRACTION IS NOT. ALL OF YOU KNOW IN ADVANCE THE APPROXIMATE PHYSICAL SIZE OF THOSE IN YOUR CADRE. NOW WE DID NOT SAY EXACT, BUT YOU DO KNOW APPROXIMATELY. THIS LEADS YOU TO BE PHYSICALLY ATTRACTED TO CERTAIN PHYSIOLOGICAL PERSONS [more] THAN OTHERS. ANOTHER FACTOR BEING WITH THESE TWO MEN, HOWEVER, IS THAT THEIR PATHS HAVE HAD SIMILAR FORKS BECAUSE OF SIMILAR KARMA. IN OTHER WORDS, THEY HAVE SIMILAR RIBBONS TO BURN, AND THUS THERE WILL BE A SIMILAR TACK TO THEIR LIVES.

I know a third man who keeps coming into my life who is large and strong. I feel I saved him from a suicide. What is the attraction here?

IN THIS INSTANCE, THE RIBBONS ARE ONLY DIFFERENT IN THAT HE IS THE DEBTEE: IN THE OTHER TWO, THEY ARE THE DEBTORS. AGAIN, THE DEBTS ARE THE SAME. IN THE CASE OF THE OTHER TWO, THEY ARE PAYING OFF KARMIC DEBTS INCURRED MANY LIVES AGO. THIS IS THEIR SOUL’S CRAVING FOR PAYMENT FOR SIMILAR TYPES OF KARMIC DEBTS. THESE DEBTS ARE NOT WITH YOU.

(Supplemental to 17 September 1974)

What is the SRG of my sister?

THIS LADY IS A FIFTH LEVEL MATURE PRIEST IN THE PASSION MODE, YES, IN ARROGANCE. ALL ELSE APPROXIMATES YOUR OWN OVERLEAVES.

_____ asked for a comment on a dream she’d had at her Uncle’s house: there was a swimming pool; a dog arose from the water; it came to stand nearby her; it turned into a very tall manlike being, but with scales on his body, etc. There was no fright connected with this. There was more of a protective feeling, and that everything was all right.

YOU, LIKE MOST HERE PRESENT, YEARN FOR A TEACHER IN THE FLESH TO WHOM YOU CAN RELATE IN A “NORMAL FASHION”. THIS DREAM, IN PART, IS INDICATIVE BOTH OF YOUR DESIRE AND YOUR EVOLUTION TO A POINT WHERE YOU COULD NOW ACCEPT A TEACHER OTHER THAN IN HUMAN FORM. BOTH INTERPRETATIONS ARE TRUE ESSENTIALLY. DO YOU SEE THIS? YOU HAVE IN MANY WAYS RISEN FROM THE MURKY WATERS AS HAVE OTHERS. THERE’S ALSO A PROTECTIVENESS IN ALL OF YOU NOW CONCERNING THIS VERY TENDER EVOLUTION. THIS LADY HAS MUCH PSYCHIC ENERGY, WE HAVE SAID BEFORE.

_____ gave a “ring” to _____ and asked for her comment. She felt it as warm, and her fingers seemed to become warmer. We each felt it and sensed “warmth” in it. This ring had been given to _____ by a psychic (?) who told him to wear it always. We agreed that he could leave a part of his own being within the ring.

WE WOULD AGREE WITH THAT. THIS IS A POWERFUL ADEPT, PERHAPS MORE SO NOW THAN ALL OTHERS ON YOUR WORLD. IT CAN BE USED AS A TALISMAN, OR AS A SOURCE FOR CONCENTRATING ENERGY.

_____ asked for a comment about which Overleaves should be worked on in light of the problems he and _____ are currently having.

THIS IS MUCH A CLASH OF GOALS. THAT IS THE ONE WHERE THE WORK IS NEEDED.

_____ commented that she continues to find new perceptions. Am I capable of spiritual love? I visualized crossed hands at our meeting. Is this symbolic of something? (E suggested Self-deprecation at home?)

FIRST, THE HANDS ARE IN THE CLOSED BODY POSITION, SYMBOLIZING A CLOSED BODY INVIOLATE; BUT YOU ARE RIGHT, E., IT IS ONLY YOUR CHIEF FEATURE THAT SAYS YOU ARE INCAPABLE, OF COURSE.

What about my dreams regarding colors?

YOU ALSO, E., ARE NOW EMERGING NOT SO MUCH FROM UNCLEAR WATER AS FROM A PLACE WHERE ALL IS MUTED, AND THE COLORS BLEND ONE INTO THE OTHER OUT INTO A SPACE OF CLARITY AND LIGHT — IN OTHER WORDS, THE REAL UNIVERSE.

Is _____’s teaching valid?

WE FIND NO FAULT WITH THE LADY. WE FEEL THAT SHE IS ALSO MERGING OUT INTO A PLACE WHERE HER TEACHING WILL EXPAND AND BECOME A VERY REAL FORCE IN THIS ARENA.

Does Michael have any comment regarding ”witches”?

ALL OF YOU HERE PRESENT COULD EASILY BECOME “WITCHES” BY DEVELOPING SOME TYPE OF RITUAL TO CHANNEL YOUR PSYCHIC TALENT IN A SPECIAL DIRECTION. THIS WOULD ONLY BE AN ADVANTAGE IF THERE WAS A TASK AT HAND TO PERFORM. ONLY THOSE WITH HARSH OVERLEAVES NEED FEAR.

What are the harsh Overleaves?

GREED AND AGGRESSION IN COMBINATION WITH REJECTION AND AGGRESSION.

Please comment regarding the lost dogs of a friend who had been to a meeting.

THE DOGS WERE KNAPPED. THEY ARE ALIVE.

Regarding the future role of serving the King [to lead the group of students]: how long [do we have] to wait, five years?

ON THE PRESENT ALTERNATIVE, SOONER THAN THAT.

Did we do this in Atlantis?

IN ATLANTIS YOU SERVED A KING, YES.

I had some visions which were very unsettling: I had very quick glimpses (one while camping), one of a round disc and another of a roundish shadow.

IN PART THIS REPRESENTS YOUR FERVENT DESIRE [for contact with extraterrestrials], BUT YOU ARE CORRECT, THE TIME IS DRAWING CLOSER. WHEN THE TIME COMES, YOU WILL BE GIVEN EXPLICIT DIRECTIONS. IT WILL INVOLVE ANOTHER “CAMPING TRIP”.

_____ shared a dream in which the group went camping with Edgar Mitchell. Does the serving of a King have anything to do with this?

THE SERVING OF A KING WILL PERHAPS BE CONCURRENT.

Should we contact Mitchell?

WE WOULD ONLY SAY AT THIS POINT TO FOLLOW THOSE INTERPRETATIVE DRIVES NOW SURFACING.

_____ told us of a contact with a being from another world, who said he was a Sixth Level? (This refers to Sixth Level Old Priest.)

BOTH; IT SHOULD BE INTERWOVEN [sic]. CONTACTS SUCH AS THESE ARE NOT UNUSUAL IF THE MEDIUM IS RECEPTIVE. THIS GROUP OF ADEPTS IS A POWERFUL AND FAR-REACHING ONE. SOLEAL IS ONE OF MANY [adepts]. PRACTICE MORE AND YOU WILL DEVELOP.

I have a spirit guide, but I have no picture of him?

BECAUSE PHYSICAL PLANE PERCEPTIONS HAVE NOTHING WITH WHICH TO VISUALIZE BEINGS OF THE HIGH PLANES. IN OTHER WORDS, ITS APPARATUS IS FAULTY.

What is his name?

TRUTHFULLY _____, OUR NAME IS LEGION. THIS ENTITY [Michael] HAS HAD IN THE PAST OVER TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND NAMES. ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH STEPHEN? THAT WOULD BE ONE; GRAY EAGLE WAS ANOTHER, AS WAS NENEMAH.

Is the reason we contact these entities because we’ve known them in life?

DEFINITELY; FOR INSTANCE, WE HAVE KNOWN YOU ALL.

When did I know you?

A FRAGMENT OF THIS ENTITY WAS KNOWN TO YOU AS GLAUCOUS: TEACHER AND STUDENT. YOU WERE THE TEACHER.

Did I establish contact while in Europe with a higher level? Will they try again?

HOPEFULLY, IF YOU DO NOT RUN FROM IT.

Is it important?

IT IS VERY IMPORTANT — IT COULD BE IF YOU FOLLOW IT.

Does it threaten my life? Was my life threatened? It’s scary.

IT IS SCARY, YES. NO, IT INVOLVES YOUR PSYCHE [not your physical life]. IT ALSO INVOLVES YOUR EGO.

Would you comment on wit and Scholars:

THINK OF BRITISH HUMOR WHEN YOU THINK OF SCHOLARLY WIT.



 

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