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RH and AH and KH, RC and SC and DC, MAH (RH's
mother), C and I. A word of introduction to C:
RH and AH have known him since he was a baby.
His mother and father we knew 19 years ago and
have kept up an acquaintance with ever since.
C's mom used to call him "R". The mom and pop
are no longer
together and C is in San Francisco enrolled in
the San Francisco State University in music.
He just happened to come by with a girl
KH: Do you feel as old as "they" say you are?
Before hearing that, I thought I was a new
SHOULD HAVE NO REAL DOUBTS. MODESTY IS A PART
OF FALSE PERSONALITY. MORE ERUDITE SOULS CALL
IT "HUMILITY" — [it] MEANS THE SAME [thing].
did you call her "K?"
AN AFFINITY FOR K.H. MORE OFTEN THAN NOT, A
DISPLAY OF MODESTY IS AN APPEAL FOR ATTENTION
AND EXPRESSES JUST THE OPPOSITE OF THAT WHICH
would like to ask about C's mother.
MOTHER IS A MATURE SOUL WHO FEELS THE
VIBRATIONS OF THOSE AROUND HER INTENSELY.
RIGHT NOW THERE IS MUCH TENSION, UNREST,
MANY QUESTIONS, [and] MUCH SEARCHING. THIS
MAKES HER UNCOMFORTABLE.
she be able to work it out?
THOSE AROUND HER ALLEVIATE THE CONDITIONS FOR
HER — HER REACTIONS TO YOUR PERCEPTIONS, NOT
HERS. SHE IS ALSO CAUGHT UP MUCH MORE IN THE
ENTHRALLMENT OF MAYA THAN OLDER SOULS.
PROBLEMS DO EXIST ON HER PLANE. THEY ARE VERY
REAL TO HER. THE OLDER SOUL BEGINS TO REALIZE
THAT THERE ARE NO PROBLEMS EXCEPT THOSE
CREATED BY FALSE PERSONALITY AS A DEFENSE.
RH: Is C
an Old soul? And also my mother?
IS A SECOND LEVEL OLDER SOUL. M.A.H. HAS BEEN
WITH YOU ALL IN SYRIA. SHE HAS BEEN WITH [her
daughters] C.H. AND V.H. SINCE. C. IS A MATURE
is a Mature soul?
SOUL PERCEIVES OTHERS AS THEY PERCEIVE
THEMSELVES. SOMETIMES THIS MAKES LIVING
DIFFICULT. THE MATURE SOULS IS NOT AS OPEN TO
THE OCCULT AS THE
OLDER SOUL. THE MATURE SOUL PERCEIVES BEAUTY
WITH A CLARITY NOT FOUND IN EARLIER CYCLE. AT
THE END OF THE CYCLE, THE MATURE SOUL BEGINS
TO PERCEIVE TRUTH. THIS PREPARES THE SOUL FOR
there anything besides my desire for growth
that brought me to these people?
BEEN WITH R.H. IN PREVIOUS LIVES. THERE ARE NO
ADVERSE RIBBONS BETWEEN YOU. YOU HAVE ALSO
BEEN WITH P.J.
is someone we met about six months ago, and
she has slipped right into our circle like an
would like to ask if I'm putting on modesty
which erudites call "humility".
DEEPER LEVEL, YES, BECAUSE THE ESSENCE OF THAT
WHICH IS REALLY K.H. KNOWS THE SCORE. THE
FALSE PERSONALITY IS MAKING A LAST DITCH STAND
been feeling that.
Could we have comments about CH (her daughter
who is also visiting us but went to Los
Angeles to visit her son for the weekend).
ALSO A MATURE SOUL. THIS CYCLE IS REALLY
FRAUGHT WITH MAYA, MORE SO THAN ANY OTHER,
BECAUSE THE PERCEPTION OF THE OLDER SOUL
BEGINS TO EMERGE, BUT THE UNDERSTANDING DOES
NOT. THE MATURE SOUL FEELS ALL OF THE HOSTILE
VIBRATIONS AROUND THEM. THEY HAVE A NEED TO
REMOVE THEMSELVES FROM THIS, BUT ARE TOO
CAUGHT UP IN THE TRADITIONAL MORES TO REMOVE
THEY FEEL A CERTAIN SENSE OF DUTY WHICH DOES
NOT DISSIPATE UNTIL THE TRANSITION [to old
soul] IS MADE. THIS IS WHY A SKILLED THERAPIST
WOULD BE OF HELP IN THIS CYCLE. IN C'S CASE,
GESTALT [Therapy] WOULD BE OF VALUE.
said something last time about Emotionally
Centered people not being helped by Gestalt
THERAPIST, I DON'T MEAN A YOUNG SOUL
PRACTICING PSYCHIATRY, EITHER.
Could you tell where our friend, who is a
psychologist, is at?
F. IS A
Could the problem my sister, CH, has with her
daughter, M, be because M is an Infant soul?
M. IS AN
That's good. That means I'm picking up on
where people's souls are, and Michael told me
I must do that. What are Infant souls?
Infant souls perceive their environment as "me
and not me", and if "not me" is hostile, they
withdraw or get into all sorts of trouble. If
everything outside "me" is not OK, they are
hostile. Things to the older soul are not as
big a shock as to the new soul. Everything to
them is new and they experience it as a shock.
SOULS ARE OFTEN GIVEN TO MATURE SOULS FOR
Given in what way? Are they led to you as
BETWEEN PHYSICAL LIVES CHOOSES TO HAVE THIS
Where is C tonight? Could Michael say anything
about what she is doing?
Where is she?
went to Los Angeles to visit her son.
SOUL IS WEARY. SHE HAS SELECTED MUCH KARMA FOR
HERSELF. SHE WILL ATTEMPT IN THIS LIFETIME TO
BURN OUT ALL THOSE RIBBONS INCURRED IN THE
YOUNG SOUL'S FINAL LEVEL.
mean in her own lifetimes as a Young soul?
IS NOW [a] FIRST LEVEL OLD SOUL.
told DJ at the "I Am Sanctuary" that she had
four incredibly difficult lives, and there was
only one karmic ribbon left for her. That was
that she would have to lose a child. Yes, she
has gone through that.
GOOD THAT R.H. IS BEGINNING TO APPLY THE
INFORMATION. THERE IS EVEN GRATITUDE FELT ON
THIS [mid causal] LEVEL.
thought about how to apply the soul level to M
and felt M is extremely naive.
I.'s soul Age?
Probably a Young soul.
CORRECT: LATE CYCLE YOUNGER SOUL. I. HAS
ALREADY DONE HER EARTHSHAKING, THOUGH THERE IS
STILL DESIRE THERE TO CREATE HARMONY BY
FORCING OTHERS INTO A MOLD: "IF THEY WOULD
JUST BEHAVE IN A SPECIFIC FASHION, 'THINGS'
WOULD BE A WHOLE LOT SMOOTHER".
don't feel that about I. She doesn't force
That's how she feels.
may try to manipulate those around her so
things will go smoothly.
There's an I. that nobody knows. Could we get
a comment on that?
DEEPER LEVEL, I. WOULD MUCH PREFER THAT THEY
WENT HER WAY.
course I would.
Obviously I. is under the influence of Venus,
and it is not like
Venusians to be manipulative.
THEY ARE. THEY ARE EXCELLENT SILENT
MANIPULATORS. THEODORA WAS A YOUNG SOUL (cries
from I.: "Oh, one minute") UNDER THE INFLUENCE
cries from I.: Oh, I have a question. Who is
student of Roman history]: Theodora was
Justinian's consort. She manipulated the whole
freaked out because my father's mother, whom
I've never met, was named Dora. (She had been
looking over the writer's shoulder, and "Theo"
had been written on one page and the "Dora" on
the next and all she saw was "Dora".)
SOULS ARE MORE OVERT IN THEIR MANIPULATIONS.
this mean I should work out now this karma, or
is this a natural thing?
A NATURAL PART OF THE CYCLE. IT [trying to
work out your karma as a Young soul] WOULD BE
LIKE DYEING YOUR HAIR: THE CHANGE WOULD BE
ONLY TEMPORARY AND PROBABLY NOT TO YOUR
been accused of being grossly insensitive. Is
that part of the Mature soul perceiving other
people as they perceive themselves, or is that
SHIELDING, C. YOU DO IT TO PROTECT YOURSELF.
YOU PERCEIVE THE UNHAPPY ONES AROUND YOU, AND
AT A DEEPER LEVEL YOU ALSO KNOW THAT YOU
CANNOT HELP THEM. YOU CAN ALSO NOT STAND THE
RAW EMOTIONAL STRENGTH.
There's someone I've had a strong
psychological relationship with lately who
kind of broke off our relationship because she
said I was insensitive, and it has hurt me a
lot, and I wondered, will that be resolved in
PERCEIVES HERSELF AS BEING WRONGED. THIS IS
level is she?
SHE IS A
feels you did it to her. This is how she sees
your hands and start all over.
Whenever you encounter anyone with that
attitude, you can't do anything about it.
complete off chances, we physically and
psychologically collide at the oddest times,
and I can't believe it can be stopped by this.
WILL CONTINUE TO COLLIDE, BUT THE RELATIONSHIP
WILL NEVER BE A SATISFACTORY ONE.
C: I can
would like to be more in touch with that part
of me that "knows the score".
WOULD HELP. THAT PART OF YOU REALIZES THE
INTENSE INTERNAL STRUGGLE. IT IS ALMOST LIKE
WAR RIGHT NOW. THE FALSE PERSONALITY SENSES
THAT IT IS LOSING AND WILL CONTINUE TO FIGHT.
That's pretty good for C, isn't it?
cleared up a big conflict for me. If I can
believe it, I can get a clear idea of certain
actions to take.
There are a few people I'd like to know if
there's a growth thing with: my father; a boy
named John; my sister.
TOO EARLY FOR THIS TO BE ENTIRELY CORRECT FOR
YOU, I. WHAT YOU FEEL ARE FAMILY TIES. YOUR
FATHER EXERTS MUCH INFLUENCE OVER YOU.
Alternately, I exert influence over him.
YOU ARE BOTH YOUNG SOULS.
clears up one thing.
can I do to clear up the troubles with my
body, and get in tune with it more. (C has
suffered with asthma most of his life.) It's
really hanging me up lately.
INTEGRATION WOULD HELP; ALSO YOGA — NOT THE
EASY ASANAS, THE HARD ONES.
someone explain "structural integration"?
in chorus: That's Rolfing. We can explain that
later and perhaps put you in touch with an
WITH COMPATIBLE SOULS WOULD ALSO BE GOOD.
Sierra Club offers much for singles program.
should I go to, to meditate with better.
TRUNGPA'S METHODS WOULD WORK FOR YOU.
What? Who is that?
a Tibetan Llama from Delhi. He has one place
in Vermont, and another in Colorado.
COULD READ THE BOOK OR COULD SEEK HIM OUT.
EITHER WOULD WORK. THE LATTER WOULD BE MORE
INTERESTING. HE IS A BEAUTIFUL, JOYOUS
ESSENCE. FIND HIM.
Where could she probably find him?
COULD FIND HIM AT HIS ASHRAM IN VERMONT.
does he choose to address me as C?
always uses the full name, except for KH — he
calls her "K" instead of her given name, K.
ARE A PART OF FALSE PERSONALITY, SOMETIMES
EVEN THE FALSE PERSONALITY OF THE PARENTS AND
NOT THE SOUL ITSELF. THE PARENTS OFTEN GIVE
THE CHILD A NAME WITH SOCIAL SIGNIFICANCE,
THEN PROMPTLY CHANGE IT.
yes. We named KH, "K", then promptly started
calling her "K".
Questioning Michael's awareness of things
would be kind of ridiculous, but I just
wondered if they are aware of all the shit
that went on with my name?
Do you have direct access to the Akashic
are "Akashic Records"?
have been told that Akashic Records are
photographic records of everything that's
happened, and what happens is OK and part of
your growth for you at the time it happens.
This may not be entirely true.
Bodytype is C?
UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF THE MOON AND VENUS, AND
IS EMOTIONALLY CENTERED.
souls seem to lack enthusiasm for their jobs.
A. could be an Old soul. Maybe we're having
difficulty because he's in transition from
Mature to Old soul.
long in terms of years are there between
tell us it could be 200 years and perhaps as
short as five between lives. In between you go
to classes, while the soul is in transition.
think in this life my father has made a big
jump — a year ago. There have been incredibly
psychic things that have happened with my girl
friend, and I always wonder if things will
work out. Why don't you go through all the
Bodytypes so I'll have some idea what they
mean. What does the order of Bodytypes mean?
Probably your dad is a Saturn.
he is more Jovial.
my father made a big jump in soul levels?
IS A FIRST LEVEL OLDER SOUL. THE MEMORIES ARE
THERE. HE IS RECALLING MORE (of his past life
is my Center of gravity?
CENTER OF GRAVITY IS EMOTIONAL.
WILL NOT LIKE THIS, BUT HERS IS INTELLECTUAL.
KH: Am I
not emotional sometimes?
AH: Am I
TOO (are Intellectual). YOU USE THE MOVING
CENTER, BUT THAT IS NOT WHERE THE TRAPPED
think I'm Centered in Intellectual part. I
used to think I was in Emotional Center.
SO TOO, BUT YOU USE EMOTIONAL CENTER OFTEN.
YOU HAVE HAD A TENDENCY TOWARD DOWNWARD LEAKS.
THIS IS NOT SO MUCH IN EVIDENCE NOW. YOU ARE
MOVING TOWARD BALANCE.
don't feel I've ever gotten out of Moving
my father a late cycle Old soul whose
personality was much bound up in false
NOT LATE CYCLE — EARLY. THIS IS WHY HE COULD
NOT COME OUT OF THE FALSE PERSONALITY TO BE
"REAL" TO YOU AND M.A.H. C.H. DID NOT PERCEIVE
THIS. HE HAD DESIRE TO SEARCH, BUT NOT
KNOWLEDGE OF THE GOAL. THE GOAL DOES NOT
BECOME CLEAR TO OTHER THAN OLDER SOULS. THAT
IS WHY THE PENITENT ORDERS ARE ALMOST ENTIRELY
COMPOSED OF MATURE SOULS. THEY PERCEIVE THE
COLLECTIVE GUILT OF THE WORLD AROUND THEM AND
ASSUME THAT IT IS THEY WHO HAVE SINNED. THERE
IS NO "SIN", ONLY KARMA, AS THERE IS NO
"EVIL", ONLY MAYA.
C: If my
mother is an Old soul, why does she - - ?
SC: She's not. Michael says she's Mature.
That's why she picked up the bad vibes from
people around her.
do you ask a silent question?
Concentrate. Do not let thoughts stray from
the one question. It is best to repeat
verbally in your mind the question. The rest
of us will attempt to blank our minds.
the silent question.
BE WRONG WORK FOR YOU TO EVEN TRY — MUCH
WASTED ENERGY. YOU CANNOT CHANGE ANYTHING
OUTSIDE OF SELF AND YOU ARE NOT IN CONTACT
WITH SELF. KARMA
IS SUBJECT TO CHANGE, BUT ONLY BY THOSE WHO
KNOW. ANY ATTEMPT WITHOUT KNOWLEDGE WILL BE
WASTED. YOU HAVE CHOSEN THIS ROLE. YOU HAVE
ALSO CHOSEN THE COURSE YOUR LIFE MUST TAKE.
UNLESS YOU KNOW WHY, THEN YOU CANNOT MAKE
ALTERATIONS. I COULD TELL YOU WHY, BUT IT
WOULD NOT CHANGE THE ROLE. WE CANNOT ERASE
YOUR TAPES [subconscious programming].
MATURE SOUL PERCEIVES THE UNHAPPY ONES, THE
DESIRE IS TO SHIELD THE SELF FROM THE
UNPLEASANT VIBRATIONS. YOU HAVE ALREADY
EXPERIENCED THE BACKLASH FROM THIS, BUT KNOW
THIS WELL, YOU CANNOT ALTER THEIR PLAY NO
MATTER HOW MUCH YOU LOVE THEM.
other words, there is nothing you can do to
make the unhappy ones around you happy. They
have also chosen their roles.
question had nothing to do with unhappy
Apparently it has to do with altering karma.
We can give you information on altering karma.
We had an incident where, at Asilomar, there
was a situation where a girl came knocking at
our door, looking for a minister. We didn't
think anything about it, and when we went back
to the board, it told us she was contemplating
taking her own life, and we asked if there
anything we could do to help her. The answer
was, "NO", and that we should not interfere
with her karma, and that if the person had
asked us for help, then we should help;
otherwise do not tamper with suicides. The
first part was about altering karma. There's
another comment — THE COURSE YOU WISH TO
FOLLOW WOULD NOT HOLD YOUR INTEREST LONG.
about people having congenital brain damage?
THE PATH FOR THEM. USUALLY THEY DID NOT RELATE
TO THIS DIFFICULTY IN A PREVIOUS LIFE.
what they [Michael] are saying is that these
people did not
understand the situation before [they had they
experience themselves]. Can this be verified
on the Ouija board?
IN ADOLPH HITLER'S KARMA TO BE BORN A JEW. HE
HAS ALREADY BEEN BORN IN ISRAEL. IT WILL BE A
soul eventually die?
SOUL IS ETERNAL. THE ESSENCE DOES NOT DIE; IT
DOES NOT LIVE — IT SIMPLY IS. [Adolph] HITLER
WAS A YOUNG SOUL.
Is it fair to ask how old he is now? HE WAS
BORN AGAIN IN [nineteen] SIXTY-TWO. (So he is
ten years old.)
would like to ask about people who have led
exemplary lives because of their religious
beliefs, such as my grandfather. It seems like
your Essence misses so much experience being
CORRECT. USUALLY THE NEXT LIFE IS SPENT IN A
WHIRLWIND OF ACTIVITY.
after that, would it balance out?
DEPENDS ON THE ACTIVITY. SOMETIMES THE SOUL
OFTEN CHOOSES A RATHER VAIN, PURPOSELESS ROLE
WHICH LEADS TO NO PARTICULAR GROWTH. THIS IS
WHAT A "RESTING LIFE" IS ALL ABOUT. THAT IS
WHY SOME SOULS SPEND MUCH TIME IN ONE
CYCLE. THE FIGURE "SEVEN" IS AN AVERAGE, NOT
AN ABSOLUTE. THE YOUNG SOUL IS MUCH ATTACHED
TO THE PHYSICAL BODY, AND LESSONS ARE OFTEN
NOT LEARNED EVEN IN THE ASTRAL INTERVAL. THE
YOUNG SOULS SEEK TO RETURN A SOON AS POSSIBLE.
BEING OUT OF THE BODY IS UNPLEASANT FOR THE
YOUNG SOUL. IT IS TERRIFYING FOR THE BABY
SOUL, INTERESTING FOR THE MATURE SOUL, AND
WELCOMED BY THE OLDER
get into the Old soul, do you remember your
experiences more clearly?
ABILITY TO RECALL DEPENDS ON THE RATE THE
RIBBONS ARE BURNED.
have a question about conventional religions
and how they influence people. I know it's a
vague question, but people who become
identified with a religion somehow limit their
experience and don't seem to grow much, yet
they may help other people. Christ did not
look for His followers among the "righteous";
He looked among the "unrighteous".
FOLLOWERS WERE ONLY UNRIGHTEOUS IN THE EYES OF
CERTAIN BEHOLDERS. THE RITUALS DERIVED FROM
THE RELIGIONS ARE GOOD WORK. THEY PRODUCE A
GROUP HIGH, WHICH IS THE ONLY WAY THAT BABY
SOULS EVER EXPERIENCE A HIGH; THAT IS,
VICARIOUSLY (through others).
channel commented on the feeling being very
strong operating the Ouija board. Could they
speak to me at other times?
TO YOU NOW, K.H. IT IS UP TO YOU TO LISTEN. WE
WILL SPEAK TO YOU THROUGH THE TYPEWRITER.
do that, it feels like "me". Some of the
information has been contradictory. I wonder
if it's my "many I's" [a Gurdjieff phrase for
parts of one's false personality]? I have a
problem with automatic writing. I feel I'm
controlling; I argue with myself. In general,
the information is valid. I get SC and we
verify through the board.
think the typewriter will become a religious
real as in this book: there's this world that
worships the hydrogen atom because they got
all messed up by another civilization who
visited them too early in their history and
told them about the periodic table and they
didn't understand the atomic theory and so,
over the centuries they developed this
powerful religion around the hydrogen atom,
built temples to
it, and they got all messed up because it came
world is it?
IS MEANINGLESS; THE DANGER IS REAL.
beginning of religions is dangerous, not the
hydrogen atom. They just simply did not
understand anything they were told. How do
religions deviate so far?
CANNOT REACH THE YOUNG SOULS. THEY ARE IN
CHARGE OF YOUR WORLD.
Richard Nixon a Young soul?
IS NOT. HE IS A LAST CYCLE BABY SOUL.
with money are Young souls. That is what their
RH: Michael have never told us about war.
karmically programmed to happen.
HAPPENS BECAUSE YOUNG SOULS ARE IN THE
MAJORITY ON YOUR WORLD. THEY ARE LARGELY
MOTIVATED BY THE DESIRE FOR MATERIAL
ACHIEVEMENT. THIS IS AN ALIENATING GOAL.
did Christ judge the Pharisees [a strict
Jewish sect], and speak of people being cast
out into darkness?
DESCRIBING PRECISELY WHAT THEY WOULD ENCOUNTER
ON THE ASTRAL INTERVAL. HE DID NOT JUDGE, HE
KNEW — THERE IS A DIFFERENCE. JUDGMENT IMPLIES
AN ALTERNATIVE; THERE WAS NONE. WHEN A MASTER
SPEAKS, THERE IS NO ROOM FOR DISCUSSION.
on the wheel of reincarnation is the
enlightened youth culture of today, such as
Richard Alpert [who calls himself "Ram Das"]
and Alan Watts? Are they older souls?
IS; ALPERT IS NOT.
grandfather just died, and I would like to
know where he was.
ALSO A LATE CYCLE YOUNG SOUL.
can have a Baby soul in a 70 year old person.
"self-remembering" [a Gurdjieff term for being
aware of your awareness] a part of meditation?
IT IS AN EXCELLENT FORM OF CONCENTRATION — THE
HIGHEST FORM TO BE EXACT. MEDITATION REQUIRES
AN EMPTY HEAD.
Michael told us there is a difference. Both
have their place and the goals are different.
What is the difference between meditation and
IS THE EMPTYING OF THE MIND OF MAYA.
CONCENTRATION IS THE ACTIVE ACQUISITION OF
HIGHER KNOWLEDGE: THE LOGOS.
were told when you "meditate" under [the
influence of] marijuana, you are
"concentrating". RC asked if a mantra was
better for him than marijuana. They answered
that, for meditation the mantra was better.
They are different.
you're concentrating on the Maya, then you
concentrate on higher knowledge, not Maya.
seems that I am constantly taking in
impressions all the time (under grass) and am
not in illusion.
CAN BE DEFINED AS FOLLOWS: YOU ARE SITTING IN
A FIELD. YOU SEE THE SUNLIGHT. YOU SEE IT AND
FEEL ITS EFFECT ON YOU. YOU ALSO FEEL AND SEE
ITS EFFECTS ON THE TREES. YOU CAN SEE AND FEEL
ITS EFFECTS ON YOUR ENTIRE PHYSICAL
ENVIRONMENT AT ONCE: THE SUNLIGHT FILTERING
THROUGH THE TREES, THE SUNLIGHT CALLING THE
BEES TO ACTION, THE SUNLIGHT ON YOUR BACK, THE
SUNLIGHT AS RADIANT ENERGY, THE SUN AS A
SOURCE OF LIGHT AND HEAT. YOU CAN HOLD ALL OF
THESE IMPRESSIONS SEPARATELY AND YET RECOGNIZE
THEM AS AN INTEGRATED WHOLE. TO DO THIS
REQUIRES SEPARATION FROM MAYA.
goal is to wake up the self. Do not these two
techniques have the same goal?
day-to-day, apart from sleeping, when does the
soul come closest to cosmic awareness?
AVERAGE SOUL GLIMPSES THE HIGHER ONLY IN
MOMENTS OF EXTREME STRESS OR AGONY.
C: I was
thinking it had something to do with sex.
That's the worst energy leak of all; also the
biggest Maya of all. It is also the biggest
thing here to go upward, but usually people go
downward with it.
There was an experience I had about, "Are
solid objects solid?" They said they are
have a question on self-remembering. If you
are aware of all these things on some levels,
does the soul manifest in animals or plants,
or is it always human?
We've had a session where this came up. The
example was the experience of an animal being
hunted and being shot. You cannot do it on a
there an animal soul, or group soul? Would it
There is someone who is interested in that,
and I don't want to put you off, but I don't
want to go through it twice. Could you wait
for your answer? The high causal body throws
or sends fragments in animal forms for an
experience. The fragments or animal forms are
not real in the sense that it is physical. It
is composed of astral matter, sometimes. It is
not karma, but it is the experience to
experience the hunt and the hunted.
would like to know the answer to the question
about group souls when you do ask. What is a
is a society which apparently began in Egypt,
at the time of the Pharaohs. It has to do with
the occult arts. It is one of the oldest
esoteric schools. They study these things,
such as astral projection.
C: It is
a split on eternity, like "send your sinuses
TEACHER DIES, THE TEACHING PASSES INTO
LITERATURE AND SHOULD BE REGARDED AS SUCH.
(Regarding the Rosicrucians.)
That's interesting. There is no live master
COSMIC INFLUENCE. [This is another concept
from Gurdjieff about types of influences we
experience in life, with cosmic influence
coming from spiritual planes.]
wonder about my growth and how did I happen to
HAPPENED TO BE WITH A MEDIUM.
would like to know how to untrap my intellect.
IS AN EXCELLENT EXERCISE FOR YOU.
Erhard Sensitivity Training helped me to
concentrate, but I seem to have lost some of
the ability when I went to the mountains.
you lose it because you were out of touch with
it and should have kept it up?
guess so. I'll enroll again. It did open up
RC: Let us ask if it would be of value to us.
BE A VALUABLE EXPERIMENT.
KH and CH and RC?
R.C. YES. S.H. WOULD ENJOY IT, BUT DON'T
EXPECT HER HAVING THE SAME EXPERIENCE. SHE
WILL PERCEIVE THE EXPERIENCE IN AN ENTIRELY
that apply to C?
NOT THE MOST DESIRABLE FORM OF INTEGRATED
THERAPY FOR C. WE HAVE ALREADY OUTLINED THE
PLAN FOR HIM.
have a tendency to avoid groups other than my
own (RB's) in order to keep my directed goal.
SHOULD NOT ALTER THE PHILOSOPHY. ALL OLD SOULS
SEE THE SYNTHESIS.
already told us Werner Erhard was an Old soul
who had a good exercise for Old souls.
my mother benefit from Esalen? [This is a
resort in northern California for physical and
psychological and spiritual healing.]
still would like to go to Esalen and take a
bath. It feels so good. That feels like power
ground for me. Are there power grounds for
SOULS REACT TO THE EMANATIONS OF SPECIFIC
ENVIRONMENT. S.C. TUNES IN TO WILD, ISOLATED
SPLENDOR; K.H., TOO.
regard to Christ, when the Ouija board said,
"When the teacher dies, the teaching dies",
did they mean Christ?
DESCENT OF THE HIGH MENTAL BODY SUPERSEDES ALL
THAT HAS GONE BEFORE. THE HIGH MENTAL BODY
DOES NOT LIVE IN THE SENSE THAT YOU KNOW LIFE.
WHEN THE "AVATAR" [its physical manifestation]
DESCENDS, THE LOGOS IS BROUGHT TO
BEAR. THIS IS NOT A TEACHING. WHEN THE AVATAR
DESCENDS AGAIN, THE LOGOS WILL AGAIN BE
BROUGHT TO BEAR, BUT IN THE LANGUAGE OF TODAY.
TEACHINGS ARE INTERPRETATIONS OF THE LOGOS.
THEY MUST BE UPDATED, NOT BECAUSE THE LOGOS
CHANGES, BUT BECAUSE LANGUAGE DOES.
the beginning was the word. The word was God."
are saying the teachings aren't the logos;
they are just the interpretations of the
logos, and the interpretations have to be
Well, they had better hurry up because we have
hydrogen warheads aimed at Russia and they at
us and there may not be a world to spread the
Perhaps we will go to another world.
NOT IN THE PLAN TO DESTROY THIS PLANET, YET.
would like to change the subject to something
personal. How prominently in my growth did my
experience in February of 1972 with LSD
ALL RIGHT. WE FEEL THAT THE GAIN WAS
recently made a big move physically, and I
wondered if that move . . .
have your answer already, whatever the
That's what I thought.
to being modest: is there any other act I
could put on?
WOULD BE THE BEST APPROACH. YOU ARE QUITE
OPEN, BUT THERE ARE STILL SOME CLOSED
CORRIDORS. YOU ARE CONSCIOUS OF THE FUTILITY
OF ANGER, BUT ARE NOT QUITE SURE OF HOW TO
HANDLE WHAT YOU INTERPRET AS ANGER, SO YOU
TEND TO AVOID SITUATIONS WHICH MIGHT GIVE RISE
TO THIS. ALSO YOU HAVE A TENDENCY NOT TO TRUST
YOUR OWN VERIFICATIONS. YOU HAVE VERIFIED YOUR
OWN STATUS AND ARE
STILL UNWILLING TO ADMIT THIS. THIS IS WRONG
WORK. DON'T ACCEPT THE WORDS OR EVALUATIONS OF
THE OTHERS UNTIL YOU HAVE VERIFIED THEIR
STATUS [as your true teacher, or as an adept].
THIS ABILITY IS WITHIN YOUR GRASP. YOU KNOW
INSTINCTIVELY WHO TO SEEK, AND HAVE SO FAR
SOUGHT WITH DISCRIMINATION ON AN INSTINCTUAL
LEVEL. NOW YOU CAN MOVE INTO DOING IT ON A
HIGHER LEVEL. THE KNOWLEDGE IS THERE.
question was lost because the tape ended, but
it had something to do with being able to tell
the difference in soul levels.
A DIFFERENCE: FINER. IT MUST BE VERIFIED; BUT
"PERCEPTION" IS THE CONCEPT THAT SEPARATES THE
[soul age] CYCLES.
Is SW an
AN OLDER SOUL.
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