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October 8, 1973



08 October 1973
San Francisco
Present: RH and AH, RC and SC, ST and ET, ES, PS, HB.
WE ARE HERE WITH YOU TONIGHT.
RH to SC: When you call Soleal, his thoughts are coming from 20 light years
away.
SC: We don't call him, by the way. The only time we have a session with him
is when one of us feels the "presence".
THERE IS NO CONCEPT OF TIME AS YOU KNOW IT ON THE HIGH PLANES. THE PHYSICAL
LAWS GOVERNING YOU ARE IRRELEVANT [there].
We were hoping that we might be able to speak to Soleal tonight.
SOLEAL IS NOT AVAILABLE PHYSICALLY AT THIS MOMENT.
A question was asked about Fragments (this was unintelligible on the tape).
THE REASON YOU HAVE ALL COME TOGETHER, UNDER FAIRLY UNUSUAL CIRCUMSTANCES,
IS, AS WE HAVE PREVIOUSLY INFORMED YOU, IS BECAUSE OF THE STRONG DRIVE OF
THE OLD SOUL TO REUNITE WITH HIS FRAGMENTS. FALSE PERSONALITY IS AWARE OF
THIS DRIVE, OF COURSE, AND OCCASIONALLY REJECTS SEEMINGLY UNSUITABLE
RELATIONSHIPS BECAUSE OF THIS LACK OF KNOWLEDGE. TWO OF THE ENTITIES OF
WHICH THIS GROUP IS A PART WERE FIRST BORN AT THE SAME TIME. THE DRIVE THERE
IS STRONGER. E.S. IS A FRAGMENT OF THE ENTITY WHICH INCLUDES A.H., S.C., AND
C.
ET: Let me ask something that maybe you can clear up. Does this mean that
they were first born on a higher plane?
SC: No, we were Infant souls together.
ET: Before Fragmentation?
SC: No, after Fragmentation.
RC: Let's ask for clarification.
ET: I imagine that they are talking about the non-fragmented Entity the
unified Entity "were first born at the same time", and that seems to me
contradictory, because those of us who were born are only part, and not the
Entity.
ENTIRE ENTITIES ARE CAST FROM THE TAO. THEY FRAGMENT INTO PHYSICALLY TRAPPED
SOULS FOR AS LONG AS IS NECESSARY FOR THEM TO EXPERIENCE ALL OF LIFE THROUGH
THE CYCLES. THIS MEANS THAT WHEN E.T.'S ENTITY FIRST FRAGMENTED, OTHER
ENTITIES FRAGMENTED ALSO. THE ENTITY WHICH INCLUDES E.T. FRAGMENTED AT THE
SAME POINT IN HISTORY AS DID THE ENTITY WHICH INCLUDES S.C. AND A.H.
ES: Do we have any idea as to how many persons are involved in the
Fragmentation of an Entity?
SC: They say at least one thousand, and then they reintegrate at different
speeds.
RC: They also made the statement that not all of the Fragments have to
experience all of life.
ES: Then they reintegrate into the Entity and that is the total cycle. Then
where do you go from there?
SC: Where Michael is.
ES: On the transcendental level?
RC: Here again, I think that we are assuming too much.
ES: The next question that comes to me is, is this a process of growth and
evolution, and for what purpose, or just indigenous, or if that is so, why?
TO ENSURE THE CONTINUOUS CREATIVE FORCE IS THE ONLY PURPOSE WE KNOW. THE
ENTITIES NO LONGER EARTH-BOUND EXPERIENCE LENGTHY PERIODS ON THE HIGH
PLANES, AND AT THE END, REUNITE WITH THE PRIMEVAL FORCE THAT IS CREATION.
THUS, THE CREATED BECOMES THE CREATOR, AND THE CYCLE REPEATS ITSELF AD
INFINITUM. THIS IS INFINITY.
RH: If ET and I are part of the same Entity, whose perception does the
reunited Entity have?
THE WHOLE BECOMES THE SUM OF THE PARTS.
ET: Do we then lose our individual perceptions?
YOU WILL LOSE YOUR INDIVIDUAL PERCEPTIONS LONG BEFORE YOU BECOME A MID
CAUSAL TEACHER.
ET: We hear so much about twin souls, and I would like to know about that.
DYADIC UNION OCCASIONALLY OCCURS WHILE THE PRINCIPALS ARE STILL ON THE
PHYSICAL PLANE. THIS IS EXCEEDINGLY RARE AND HAPPENS ONLY AMONG FRAGMENTS OF
THE SAME ENTITY. THESE UNIONS ARE ALWAYS [gender] POLAR, AND IT IS A
DEVASTATING EXPERIENCE. SOULS SO UNITED ARE TRULY ONE FLESH.
Part of the following was not recorded.
Why is this devastating? What do you mean by "polar"?
THERE IS COMPLETE PSYCHIC UNION. THERE ARE NO LONGER ANY INDIVIDUAL
PERCEPTIONS. THERE IS A TOTAL LOSS OF IDENTITY. ALL OF YOU WILL ESCAPE THIS
FATE IN THIS LIFETIME, FOR YOUR STRONGEST ATTRACTIONS WITHIN THE GROUP ARE
FOR THOSE OF THE SAME SEX.
ET remarked that he felt that he was probably already at least one hundred
reintegrated Fragments.
E.T. IS ESSENTIALLY CORRECT. THERE ARE APPROXIMATELY TWENTY SEPARATE
FRAGMENTS OF THAT ENTITY EXTANT ON THE PHYSICAL PLANE. ALL OF YOU ARE
COMPOSITES OF COMPLETED MONADS.
RH: How many Fragments are in my composite?
APPROXIMATELY ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY. ALL OF YOU NOW HAVE FRAGMENTS THAT ARE
A PART OF THE MID ASTRAL SEQUENCE.
RH: Did I experience this polarity?
NO.
RC: I have past lives and so do the other Fragments. When you come together,
do you remember the other lives of the other Fragments?
YOU DO EXPERIENCE THE FLASHES FROM ALL OF THE COMPOSITE FRAGMENTS. THIS IS
WHY S.C. IS SO CONFUSED RIGHT NOW.
RC: Is this something like micro-akashic records? [The "akashic record" is
the middle level of the "mental plane".]
YES, BUT YOU MUST REMEMBER THAT ALL OF THE FRAGMENTS ARE NOT IN THE PHYSICAL
BODY AT THE SAME TIME. GEORGES GURDJIEFF GLIMPSED THIS IN PART WHEN HE
PRESENTED HIS THEORY OF RECURRENCE.
ES: I feel that I've been cast into the wind, without direction, without
control.
YOU ARE FREE TO CHOOSE. THE RUB COMES IN WHERE FALSE PERSONALITY, WHICH IS
KARMA DRIVEN, MAKES MOST OF THE CHOICES, IN DIRECT OPPOSITION TO THE DESIRES
OF THE ESSENCE.
The word "ego" was discussed extensively at this point. Unfortunately, there
is no recording, so this scribe is unable to capture it in essence. However,
ES did mention that he had been searching for fifty years, and he wondered
how to get away from ego (False Personality).
THE WORD DOES NOT MATTER SO MUCH AS YOUR UNDERSTANDING. HOWEVER, "EGO" TO
THE PSYCHIATRIST NORMALLY MEANS "SELF", SO BE CERTAIN THAT YOU ALL
UNDERSTAND EACH OTHER. FOR PURPOSE OF EASE IN TRANSMISSION, WE HAVE BEEN
USING TERMINOLOGY FAMILIAR TO THE MAJORITY, WITH SOME VARIATION. FOR
INSTANCE, WE PERCEIVE NO SCHISM BETWEEN "SELF", "SOUL", AND "ESSENCE". ALL
ARE SPIRITUAL. FALSE PERSONALITY IS ATTACHED TO THE ORGANISM.
ET: How is it practical for me to know about my Fragments? Should I search
for them?
IT IS MORE PRACTICAL NOT TO RESIST THAN TO TRY TO CONSCIOUSLY SEARCH. FALSE
LEADS ARE POSSIBLE AT YOUR LEVEL. LEARN NOT TO ANALYZE YOUR INTUITION OUT OF
EXISTENCE; THAT IS A TRAIT OF FALSE PERSONALITY.
The recording resumed at this point.
ES: I see some parallels between the unconscious and the process of the
soul, although we've been told the relationship of the ego to the others. I
wonder if I can get some information as to where the unconscious falls in
the psychological terms we just discussed?
WHEN CARL JUNG DESCRIBED THE COLLECTIVE CONSCIOUSNESS, HE WAS DESCRIBING HIS
OWN APPREHENSION OF THE COLLECTIVE FRAGMENTS RESIDING IN HIS BODY. HE WAS
DESCRIBING A DIRECT CONFRONTATION WITH HIS OWN SOUL. THIS HAS BECOME KNOWN
POPULARLY AS THE SUBCONSCIOUS, SIMPLY THROUGH MISUNDERSTANDING. THROUGH THE
AGES, THERE HAVE BEEN OLD SOULS MAKING THIS CONFRONTATION AND ATTEMPTING TO
DESCRIBE IT. HE CAME CLOSER THAN MOST WESTERNERS. MYSTICISM HAS NEVER BEEN A
COMPELLING FORCE IN WESTERN PHILOSOPHY.
ET: But he called it the collective "unconscious", which is correct?
WE DISLIKE THE TERM "UNCONSCIOUS"   IT IS MEANINGLESS. THE SOUL IS
ETERNALLY VIGILANT. THE FALSE PERSONALITY DOES NOT HAVE THE CAPACITY FOR
BECOMING CONSCIOUS.
RH: Internally I have, and I assume others have also, a great deal of
pulling and shoving, sometimes like I'm composed of many different people.
Some are in charge at one time and others are in charge at other times. Up
until now, I had always assumed that this was the many "I's" in false
personality [as taught by Gurdjieff]. Is it this, or is it the many
Fragments, or is it a mixture?
IT IS AN ADMIXTURE OF BOTH.
RH: Is this why, when you see an Infant or Baby soul, you see simplicity
there? It is just one Fragment? And then with Old souls, you sense a
complexity, and then in between, you see mixtures. Is this because the
Fragments are unified all along the line, beginning with the Infant souls?
THAT IS VALID TO A POINT. NOT MUCH UNITING OCCURS IN INFANCY.
RC: Would this have any influence on Mature souls?
RH: Yeah, that's what I was saying, because all along the line you seem to
see more complexity.
RC: Then perhaps the impact is greater at the level of the Mature soul than
anywhere else. Is that valid?
NOT REALLY. THEIR PERCEPTIONS ARE SOMETIMES ERRONEOUS.
ES: Hangmen, crooks, and thieves: all my past lives, that's what I'm
composed of.
RH: Yeah, me too.
BUT YOU MUST REMEMBER, R.H., THOSE LESSONS WERE LEARNED.
RC: Is it possible to go through life without burning the karma that you had
set out to burn in that life, or is it inevitable that you burn karma?
IT IS INEVITABLE THAT YOU PLAY OUT THE [karmic] ROLE YOU CHOSE. IT IS NOT
NECESSARY THAT YOU ALWAYS CHOOSE A DIFFICULT ROLE.
AH: Does it sometimes take more than one lifetime to learn the lesson? I
mean, he's asking if you choose a role, it's all over with, but I'm asking,
might you not have to play it over and over again?
MANY TIMES YOU HAVE CHOSEN ALMOST IDENTICAL ROLES IN ORDER TO PLAY OUT A
MONAD. ONLY THE TIME AND LOCATIONS WERE DIFFERENT.
ES: At what point do we make our choice?
THE CHOICE IS MADE ON THE ASTRAL LEVEL BETWEEN LIVES. YOUNG SOULS QUITE
OFTEN HAVE VERY LITERAL CONCEPTS OF HEAVEN AND HELL. THEY MUST EXPERIENCE
THIS, AS THEY CREATE IT OUT OF ASTRAL MATTER.
We've been told that we go to school between lives. Is this accurate?
"SCHOOL" IS A DECEPTIVE TERM. THERE IS MUCH TIME FOR REFLECTION, AND MUCH
GUIDANCE. MANY SOULS REMAIN SUSPENDED IN A LIMBO OF THEIR OWN MANIFESTATION
FOR MANY OF YOUR YEARS. OLD SOULS WELCOME THE INTERVAL. THERE IS NORMALLY A
VERY SHORT TRANSITION FROM THE PHYSICAL BODY TO THE LOW ASTRAL PLANES.
SC: Can you tell us about the astral plane and its levels?
THE FIRST LEVEL OF THE ASTRAL PLANE IS POPULATED BY LIVING FRAGMENTS ADEPT
AT ASTRAL TRAVEL, AND THOSE SOULS WHO PENETRATE THIS PLANE ACCIDENTALLY
THOUGH DRUGS. THE SECOND LEVEL OF THE ASTRAL PLANE IS INHABITED BY ALL THOSE
BETWEEN [physical] BODIES. THE THIRD LEVEL ATTRACTS OLD SOULS WHO ARE TRYING
TO BURN FINAL KARMA WITHOUT BEING REBORN. THE MID ASTRAL BODIES ARE
PARTIALLY REUNITED ENTITIES. YOU HAVE MANIFESTED A MID ASTRAL ENTITY
PREVIOUSLY [Tomas]. THE THREE HIGHER LEVELS ARE PROGRESSIVELY INTEGRATED.
ACCESS TO THE HIGH PLANES IS THROUGH THESE LEVELS. EVEN VERY HIGH ADEPTS
SUCH AS SOLEAL HAVE FANTASIES CONCERNING THE HIGH PLANES. WE HAVE CONFRONTED
HIM ON THE LOW ASTRAL PLANE, AND HAVE BEEN REQUIRED TO DESCEND A STAIRCASE
WHICH DOES NOT EXIST EXCEPT IN HIS MIND.
What is meant by the high planes?
BY "HIGH PLANES" WE REFER TO THE CAUSAL AND BEYOND.
RH: I would like to know about PS's Entity, and about HB's.
P.S.'S ENTITY IS STILL WIDELY FRAGMENTED, AS IS H.B.'S. THEY WILL NOT BEGIN
TO SEARCH FROM ESSENCE YET.
AH: Does the path become harder as your soul evolves and becomes older?
DIFFICULTY IS RELATIVE TO THE PERCEIVER. NOT STRICTLY SPEAKING, A.H. IT
SHOULD BECOME EASIER. IT IS SIMPLY THAT MORE OF THE PIECES FIT INTO THE
PUZZLE, AND YOU ARE FACED WITH AN INCREASINGLY ALARMING VOLUME OF DATA UNTIL
YOU ALLOW YOURSELF TO PERCEIVE THE SYNTHESIS.
At this point the recording ceased, so the remaining questions may be
inaccurate and attributed to the wrong seeker.
RC: Did Christ know about atomic theory when He was in the physical body?
NOT AS AN OLD SOUL, BUT WHEN THE HIGH MENTAL BODY MANIFESTED, IT BROUGHT THE
SUM OF THE LOGOS TO BEAR.
There was discussion about the Transcendental and Infinite souls and their
place on the reincarnational cycle; about the possibility of the
Transcendental soul manifesting through RB, etc.
THAT IS OVERSIMPLIFICATION. THE TRANSCENDENTAL SOUL IS ONLY SUCH WHEN IT IS
MANIFEST ON THE PHYSICAL PLANE, AS IS THE INFINITE SOUL. THE HIGH CAUSAL
BODY IS CAPABLE OF DISPLACING MANY SOULS AT ONCE. THIS WILL OCCUR WITHIN THE
NEXT DECADE. MANY MUST SIT AT THE FEET OF LIVING MASTERS. YOU ARE NOW LIVING
IN A LARGE, COMPLEX SOCIETY. A JEWISH CARPENTER WOULD HARDLY BE APROPOS.
RC: Will He be a Russian?
THE HIGH MENTAL BODY WILL MANIFEST. LOOK AROUND YOU; DO YOU NOT THINK THAT
THIS IS NECESSARY? THERE IS SOCIAL AND POLITICAL UNREST, INTERNECINE
[mutually destructive] AND INTERRACIAL WARS, RELIGIOUS SCHISM ALL EXISTING
SIMULTANEOUSLY IN A POWDER KEG OF NUCLEAR POWER. THE MANIFESTATION WILL BE A
VERY DIFFERENT TYPE. THE PROBLEMS ARE NOT SO DIFFERENT AS THEY ARE MORE
DANGEROUS.
We discussed the present Israel-Syria conflict, and the possibility of the
destruction of ancient shrines. ET asked for a comment on that conflict.
WHAT WAS OCCURRING ABOUT TWO THOUSAND YEARS AGO IN SYRIA-PALESTINE? WE HAVE
TOLD YOU THAT YOU ARE ON A PARALLEL TIME FRAME. THESE VERY ANCIENT ENEMIES
HAVE BETTER INSTRUMENTS OF WAR NOW THAN THEN. THE BOOK-BURNING THREAT IS
REAL. THE ROLE HAS NOT BEEN CHOSEN, BUT IT WAS IN THE PAST.
We had discussed the burning of the library at Alexandria by Justinian, and
RC voiced the fear that perhaps we would do a repeat of this, but this time
out of shame, so that future generations would not know how irresponsible we
were. Then he asked Michael if the books were burned at Alexandria out of
shame.
MISGUIDED ZEAL. HE REGARDED SCIENCE AS EVIL.
RC then asked for a statement on war, wondering why it was necessary, and
why it was imposed on us.
THE HIGH BODIED IMPOSE NOTHING. THE CYCLES IMPOSE THEIR OWN KARMA. THE
REASONS FOR THIS BECOME CRYSTAL CLEAR WHEN ONE STUDIES THE PERCEPTIONS OF
THE WORLD AND SELF THROUGH THE CYCLES. MANY NATIONS ARE NOW HEAVILY
POPULATED WITH EARLY CYCLE YOUNG SOULS. YOUR OWN IS THE PRIME EXAMPLE. OTHER
NATIONS ARE HEAVILY POPULATED BY MATURE SOULS. THESE ARE THE NATIONS WHO
CHOSE NEUTRALITY IN WORLD WAR TWO. OLD SOUL NATIONS ARE ACTIVELY PACIFIC,
AND SUBMIT TO DOMINATION RATHER THAN FIGHT.
RC: Could we stop all wars?
YOU CANNOT DO IT. THERE WOULD BE MINIMUM COOPERATION AND YOU WOULD JUST
BECOME A NEEDLESS MARTYR.
ES: We all have negativity and there is all this evil. What do we do with
it? How do we handle it?
EVIL PER SE EXISTS ONLY IN THE MINDS OF THOSE PERCEIVING AN ACTION. IF YOU
HAPPEN TO BE A YOUNG SOUL, YOUR DESIRE WILL BE TO CHANGE THAT EVIL TO GOOD,
"TO RIGHT THE UNRIGHTABLE WRONG". YOU WILL NOT HESITATE TO WIPE OUT THE
LIVES THAT STAND IN YOUR WAY. AFTER ALL, ARE THEY NOT EVIL? MATURE SOULS
OFTEN PERCEIVE EVIL IN THEMSELVES, AND SEEK TO EXORCISE THIS. YOUNG SOULS
PERCEIVE THE DIFFERENCES IN PEOPLE OFTEN AS EVIL. THE OLD SOUL ORDINARILY
DOES NOT PERCEIVE EVIL AS SUCH. HE PERCEIVES THE CAUSE AND DOES NOT SEEK TO
ERADICATE THE AGENT. THIS IS WHAT IS MEANT LOOSELY BY "ACCEPTANCE". ON A
HIGHER LEVEL THIS ACCEPTANCE BECOMES AGAPE. YOUR NEGATIVITY CAN BE DISSOLVED
AS SOON AS YOU REALIZE HOW FUTILE IT IS. SOULS ENTHRALLED IN [the] GLAMOUR
OF THE PHYSICAL PLANE DO SENSELESS THINGS, GRANTED, BUT REALIZE THIS, E.S,
THE SOUL IS ETERNAL; THESE ACTS ARE TEMPORAL.
The session was terminated by mutual consent at 12 AM.




 

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