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Present: RH and AH, RC and SC, PJ, SB, BS, VL,
WE ARE HERE WITH YOU TONIGHT.
There was some trouble with comfort as SC and RC
tried to work the board.
PERHAPS YOU COULD STABILIZE THAT SOMEHOW. WHAT
ARE YOUR BURNING QUESTIONS?
AH: My friend, TB, who has never come to a
meeting here, has expressed a
desire to write a paper for a class she is
taking in witchcraft, and I would
like to ask for her if it is all right with
everyone here, and also ask the
board for comments.
SHE CAN DO A PAPER AS FAR AS WE ARE CONCERNED.
(AH communicated this to TB later, and she had
decided to write on the
Kabalah instead of our communications with
AH: Another question for someone else concerns a
man by the name of RP. RH
and I recently met him when he brought [our
daughter] KH from the Carmel
area, as she was feeling ill. He has read some
of our papers which KH has
shown him. We talked awhile and he wanted me to
ask for him about the level
of his soul.
HE IS A FIRST LEVEL OLDER SOUL.
AH and RH expressed how good they felt when they
HE IS A BEAUTIFUL GUY.
AH: I would like to ask if there is anything
organically wrong with KH. We
had her checked out clinically and there was
nothing wrong. However, she
does not feel well at all and has stomach pain
when she eats.
K.H. MANUFACTURES ABUNDANT HYDROCHLORIC ACID AND
IS WORKING TOWARD AN ULCER.
RH asked for a comment on her general health,
which seems run down.
HER GENERAL HEALTH IS ALL RIGHT, EXCEPT THAT SHE
DRIVES HERSELF IN AN EFFORT
TO ACHIEVE HER EXPECTATIONS, WHICH ARE HIGH.
K.H.'S PATH IS A STEEP ONE.
AH: Recently I talked to EP on the phone. She is
in the Mendocino Coast
Hospital, Fort Bragg, with an abscessed left
lung. She asked me to ask if ET
could perhaps call on her in order to try some
E.T. COULD GO, AND IF HER FAITH IN HIS ABILITY
TO EFFECT A CURE WAS STRONG
ENOUGH, HE COULD DO IT. HE HAS THE ABILITY TO.
THERE ARE EMOTIONAL OVERTONES
THAT MIGHT PROVE EFFECTIVE.
AH: One more question which my daughter, CH,
requested me to ask: will
"EST", which she is in the process of
experiencing, help her to burn karmic
SOMETHING LIKE "ERHARD SENSITIVITY TRAINING"
DOES NOT BURN RIBBONS, BUT THE
EXPERIENCE COULD CONCEIVABLY PUT HER IN TOUCH
WITH UNTAPPED INNER RESOURCES
THAT WOULD ENABLE HER TO MAKE WISE CHOICES IN
THE FUTURE AND THUS BURN THE
SC wanted to know if children could be helped by
THE CHILDREN WOULD BENEFIT ENORMOUSLY.
SC: That's the first they've ever said that any
of us would benefit. When I
offered to send [my daughter] DC to the special
children's EST, she began to
THE CHILDREN DO NOT ALWAYS MAKE WISE CHOICES.
SC: You mean I ought to drag DC screaming and
PJ: I would like to know what level my son, JJ,
is. He is 14 years old.
HE IS A THIRD LEVEL OLD SOUL. THIS CHILD IS
PJ: What do I do with his gifts?
ALLOW HIM TO DEVELOP THEM. HE COULD BE A
POWERFUL PSYCHIC. HE EXPRESSES THIS
MUSICALLY. (He possesses) THE INTUITIVE SENSE OF
UNDERSTANDING SO OFTEN
PRESENT IN OLDER SOULS.
RH: What type is JR? I would assume he is
influenced by Mercury and Venus.
J.R. IS ALMOST SOLELY MERCURIAL, BUT VENUS
EXERTS A WEAK INFLUENCE,
PRIMARILY IN INTERPERSONAL RELATIONSHIPS.
RH: How about T?
SHE IS ALSO MERCURIAL, SOME SATURN. J.R. IS A
FIRST LEVEL OLDER SOUL. T. IS
A SIXTH LEVEL MATURE SOUL.
RH: It is hard to tell the level of Mercurial
souls, as they have this young
look about them bright, sparkley eyes. Is it
possible to identify how many
Fragments are united, and can we begin to
UNDER HYPNOSIS VERY ADVANCED STUDENTS CAN
IDENTIFY THEIR OWN FRAGMENTS. YOU
CAN SOMETIMES IDENTIFY FRAGMENTS IN OTHERS BY
RH: Must mean by the diversity of the person. It
seems like HL is many
Fragments united. Could we have a comment on
H.L.'S ENTITY NOW HAS ONLY FOURTEEN FRAGMENTS
EXTANT [incarnate] ON THE
RH: How many Fragments are united in him
IN HIM THERE ARE FIFTY UNITED FRAGMENTS. THE
OTHERS FORM LOW ASTRAL
RH: If a person has Fragments on the astral
plane, do they try to influence
Fragments on the physical plane?
YES. TOMAS IS A PART OF THE ENTITY THAT INCLUDES
RH: She is always talking to him. She used to
run the Ouija board for our
group and has left us. SB confuses me because
she is Mercurial. Because of
their bright eyes and youthful look, I tend to
put Mercurial persons in the
young soul category. Could I find the soul level
THAT IS A FORGIVABLE TRANSGRESSION. S.B. IS A
SECOND LEVEL OLD SOUL.
RH: I would like to verify if our radiologist,
JW, is a Baby soul. He seems
naive. It has nothing to do with competence it
is his behavior.
THAT IS VALID. THE SOCIAL BEHAVIOR OF BABY SOULS
IS NORMALLY A DEAD
GIVEAWAY. THEY HAVE NONE OF THE SMOOTHNESS OF
THE OLDER CYCLES. NEW
SITUATIONS FRIGHTEN THEM. CHANGE OF ANY TYPE IS
THREATENING. THE YOUNG SOUL
IS USUALLY POLISHED AND POISED SOCIALLY. THE
MATURE SOUL IS SOMETIMES
NERVOUS IN CROWDS IF THE VIBRATIONS ARE BAD, BUT
THEY ARE EXACTING IN THEIR
SOCIAL RELATIONSHIPS. THE OLD SOUL IS CASUAL
ABOUT EVERYTHING. BABY SOULS
TEND TO BE IMMACULATE ABOUT PERSON AND HOME
HAVE STRONG FEELINGS ABOUT
HYGIENE. THEY LIVE BY STANDARD CLICHΙS, AND,
AFTER ALL, "CLEANLINESS IS NEXT
TO GODLINESS". THE YOUNG SOUL OFTEN KEEPS
EXTERNAL APPEARANCES: SHOVES
EVERYTHING INTO THE CLOSET BEFORE THE COMPANY
COMES. THE MATURE SOUL GOES IN
SPURTS: ONE DAY CLEAN, THE NEXT DAY, NOT TOO
CLEAN. THE OLD SOUL USUALLY
DOES NOT BOTHER TO SHOVE ANYTHING IN THE CLOSET
WHO CARES? THE BABY SOULS
REGULARLY CLEAN DRAWERS, CUPBOARDS AND THE TOPS
SB: That's my mother! Is she a Baby soul? But
then I do that too I clean
the top of the refrigerator.
S.B.'S MOTHER IS A BABY SOUL. S.B. IS
[chronologically] YOUNG SHE IS
What level is GM? She seems Mercurial, Solar,
Baby soul. She has a high
G.M. IS A BABY SOUL WITH A HIGH ENERGY LEVEL. WE
DO NOT DETECT SOLAR
INFLUENCE, BUT MUCH MERCURY. SHE IS JUST
Discussion was held intimating that RB tended to
hold back information from
his students. A strong statement came through
the Ouija board workers said
that they felt a strong force.
THE MAN, R.B., IS A GOOD TEACHER. IT DEPARTS
SUBSTANTIALLY FROM THE
TEACHINGS OF PETER OUSPENSY AND GEORGES
GURDJIEFF. THE COMPLEXION OF THE
GROUP IS GRADUALLY EVOLVING TO A STAGE WHERE
CERTAIN MEMBERS SUCH AS K.H.
WILL FORCE HIM TO DIVULGE HIS REAL TEACHING.
RH: I would like to know what the nature of the
next Overleaf is?
WE WERE HOPING TO TIE THOSE YOU ALREADY HAVE
TOGETHER BEFORE GOING ON.
HOWEVER, THERE ARE FOUR MORE INFLUENCES THAT
COME INTO PLAY AND DETERMINE
THE ROLES THAT ARE CHOSEN AND HOW THE ACTORS
PERFORM IN THEM. THERE ARE
SEVEN MAJOR LIFE "ROLES".
SB: I would like to know about my Entity
Fragments. Do I know any of them
S.B. IS INFLUENCED BY MERCURY.
RH: She wanted to know about her Entity
S.B. IS NOT AT THE PRESENT IN CONTACT WITH ANY
OF HER [Entity] FRAGMENTS.
SHE HAS BEEN AND WILL BE AGAIN.
SB: Could I have a hint as to whom?
ONE WILL COME INTO THIS GROUP SOON.
Discussion was held as to who was in whose
Entity. AH asked why this was
important to know.
SOME OF THIS WILL SHORTLY FALL INTO PLACE. J.R.
SHOULD ATTEND A SESSION WITH
Is ES a Fragment of JR's Entity?
NO. GIVE THE NEW PEOPLE [in attendance] A
Could we have some insight into B's and V's
B. IS MARTIAL, SOME SATURNINE INFLUENCE. V. IS
MOSTLY VENUTION, SOME
And their soul levels?
V. IS EMOTIONALLY CENTERED, A MATURE SOUL, MID
CYCLE. B. IS MOVING CENTERED,
A FIRST LEVEL OLD SOUL.
THERE IS NO PARTICULAR ADVANTAGE TO KNOW THIS
UNLESS YOU PLAN TO PUT IT INTO
PRACTICE IN HELPING YOU TO OBSERVE YOURSELVES
AND THOSE AROUND YOU, TOWARD
IMPROVING YOUR INTERACTIONS IN A POSITIVE
FASHION. THERE IS NO SPECIFIC
ADVANTAGE TO A LEVEL ON THE CYCLE.
SELF-AGGRANDIZEMENT [for being an older
soul than someone else] IS MAYA TOO, OF A MOST
SC: There is no advantage of being on one level
over another one. No one
trapped in one Center is better off than another
somewhere else. Since it
was said that I was Moving Centered, that means
I can get to my Moving
Center more readily than someone trapped in
Emotional or Intellectual
THAT IS MERELY A SUGGESTION, NOT A COMMAND.
JR: I would like to ask about a recurring dream
I have had and the
significance of it.
JR was asked to concentrate and everyone else
was asked to concentrate on
JR's dream without having him verbalize it.
J.R.'S DREAM IS HIGHLY SYMBOLIC OF AN INCIDENT
WHICH HAPPENED TO HIM WHEN HE
WAS THREE YEARS OLD. HYPNOSIS WOULD HELP RECOVER
THE INCIDENT. MARIJUANA
SC: If it bothers you, you could have hypnosis.
JR: It does not bother me. I get the feeling of
falling through a long
tunnel, and there are large, bulbous shapes.
It's the only dream I can
remember having more than once.
THE SENSATIONS OF FALLING OFTEN ACCOMPANIES THE
SUDDEN RETURN TO THE BODY
AFTER ASTRAL SOJOURNS. ALL OF YOU DO SPEND PART
OF THE LIGHT SLEEP ON THE
PJ left the meeting because she was tired. The
question was asked why sleep
SLEEP IS NECESSARY TO REPAIR PSYCHIC TRAUMA. THE
LESS YOU INCUR, THE LESS
YOU NEED TO SLEEP. DEEP WOUNDING REQUIRES MUCH
SLEEP. OF COURSE, PSYCHIC
TRAUMA IS SELF-INFLICTED AND USUALLY KICKS OFF A
CHAIN REACTION, RESULTING
IN LIFELONG SLEEP HABITS. THE MORE YOU REPRESS,
THE MORE YOU DREAM. THOSE
WHO DO NOT REPRESS CAN SPEND MOST OF THEIR SLEEP
PERIODS ON THE ASTRAL
PLANE. SOLEAL IS A GOOD EXAMPLE.
A comment was made about SC's book, which came
from automatic writing on the
typewriter, believed to have come from Soleal's
SC wanted to know if there was one dominant
thread. If you do it to her in
this life, is she going to turn around and do it
to you in the next life. Is
it that karmic ribbons makes you find them?
RH said that it did not have to be a negative
thing roles were reversed to
complete the Monad. Most people burn karmic
ribbons by reliving, but if you
are aware, then you can burn them by making a
total separation from them.
SC said she felt strong obligations to some
people (T and R [her tenants])
and this was part of her karma. She said that
Michael told ET that now that
he knew about his karma, to just acknowledge it.
RH said that psychological freedom comes from
knowing that you are not bound
by ribbons to people.
RC: Are the karmic ribbons influenced by false
YES. ENTRAPMENT IN THE BODY AND THE CHIEF
FEATURE ARE KARMA FOR ESSENCE. ALL
OTHER[karmic ribbon]S ARISE FROM ACTIONS BORN OF
THE WAKING SLEEP. IF YOU
ARE AWAKE, YOU WOULD NOT DO IT.
SC: Gurdjieff says that most people pass their
lives in the "waking sleep".
If you want to verify it, just try to remember
what you had for dinner last
Tuesday, or how many traffic lights did you
drive through when you came over
VL: Is it fate if you are psychic and predict
SC: They told us that was bad work. It does not
do any good to know the
answer. We have to work out answers for
ourselves. Tomas predicted the
second coming, but as far as our own lives go,
it is not good work to ask
for answers for the future. All choices are
yours. You even choose your
RH: If you know you're going to be murdered, you
can change your karma and
do something about it. If you are aware of your
karma, you can change.
THIS RESURGENCE OF INTEREST IS A HARBINGER. IT
WOULD BE INTERESTING FOR YOU
TO CHECK WITH LOCAL BOOK SELLERS AND ASK THEM
WHAT TYPE OF LITERATURE IS
SC: This is interesting, because I've told three
different people recently
that I'm now writing a book on the life of
Christ, and they were all quite
different from each other, but all three
suggested that I read The Last Temp
tations of Christ before I do much more writing.
T mentioned a book she had read recently, and we
wondered what was causing
IT IS CALLED MESSIANIC FEVER.
SC: Just look around you the ancient enemies
are at it again; political
unrest, religious schism. Tomas told us that the
Infinite soul would
manifest in 1997 and bring the Logos to bear.
RC: One more question I can ask later.
SC: No, no. Do it now. Be aggressive!
RC: I just wanted to ask about the "Rheems"
(what Michael calls the space
travelers who appeared in Mississippi). What has
happened to them?
NOW THEY HAVE ATTRACTED A GREAT DEAL OF
ATTENTION WITH THEIR LANDING CRAFT.
THEY ARE NOW BACK IN THEIR SHIPS TRYING TO
DECIDE WHETHER TO MAKE OVERT
CONTACT. INCIDENTALLY, THE PROBES WILL ENCOUNTER
THESE CRAFTS. TOO BAD THEY
HAVE STOPPED SIGNALING.
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