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October 13, 1973



13 October 1973
Present: ES, M, YS, L, SC and RC, RH and AH, SB , I. (After an evening of
Greek food and dancing at Taverna Athena.)
ES asked a question about burning karmic ribbons in order to make progress.
Otherwise, he felt like he was standing still. Is it the same as overcoming
the evil side of ourselves?
WE ARE HERE WITH YOU TONIGHT.
IN ORDER TO BEGIN WORK ON THE PATH, YOU MUST FIRST BURN THE KARMIC RIBBONS.
THEY ARE OF THE PHYSICAL PLANE AND ARE CHALLENGED BY MAYA. NEGATIVITY CAN
ONLY BE OVERCOME BY SOME POSITIVE ACTION ON YOUR PART. NO ONE CAN DO IT FOR
YOU. YOUR REACTION TO A GIVEN SITUATION IS THE ONLY CRITERION UPON WHICH THE
JUDGMENT, GOOD VERSUS BAD, RESTS.
ES: How do you burn the ribbons?
WE HAVE SAID THIS BEFORE, BUT WE WILL REPEAT: AS YOU REAP, SO YOU SHALL SOW;
AS YOU SOW, YOU SHALL REAP. THE "RIBBONS" ARE MERELY OUR WAY OF EXPRESSING
THAT WHICH DRAWS YOU IRRESISTIBLY TO PERSONS, PLACES, ERAS AND SITUATIONS SO
THAT THE PLAY CAN GO ON. SOME MUST WAIT MANY YEARS TO PASS BEFORE THE
OPPORTUNITY ARISES AGAIN AND PRESENTS THE SCENE WITH THE ROLES REVERSED.
ES: A person may become stuck at the same point. Is he pulled or pushed by
some force? It seems you are required to make some action to move.
YOU ARE MERELY GIVEN A SET OF PLANS AND TOOLS: THE REST [of the construction
project of karma] IS UP TO YOU. THE PLAY GOES ON FOREVER.
ES: I've played the same game for 45 years; it was unchanging. I could have
spent my whole life in one spot. Is it my own volition or by chance to
change my life?
INTELLIGENCE IS NOT A DETERMINING FACTOR, AT LEAST NOT IN TERMS OF
SCHOLASTIC PROWESS. IT IS MORE A SUBTLE DISCERNMENT STEMMING FROM MEMORY
EXPERIENCE AND THE SHEER POWER OF AGE. THE YOUNG SOUL IS LOST TO THE SEARCH
JUST AS THE CHILD OF TEN WOULD BE LOST IN THE BUSINESS [world]. THE MATURE
SOUL HAS ALL OF THE CONFLICTS OF THE CELESTIAL ADOLESCENT OR YOUNG ADULT.
ONLY THE OLD SOUL HAS THE EXPERIENCE TO SURRENDER TO THE DESIRE.
RH: Is YS a part of the Fragments of the man, RB?
THE MAN, R.B., IS A FINAL LEVEL OLD SOUL. ALL BUT FOR FIVE FRAGMENTS OF THE
ENTITY HAVE REINTEGRATED. HE IS NOT A PART OF THE ENTITIES WE HAVE
DISCUSSED. THE MAN, Y.S., IS A FIFTH LEVEL OLD SOUL. HE IS NOT A PART OF ANY
OF THE ENTITIES WE HAVE DISCUSSED. THERE ARE TWENTY-NINE FRAGMENTS OF THIS
ENTITY EXTANT [on the physical plane now]. HE IS IN CONTACT WITH J.F-S.
RH: Are there others in YS's group that are part of his Entity?
NOT AT THE MOMENT. THERE WERE AND THERE WILL BE AGAIN.
ES: What level is M?
SHE IS A FIRST LEVEL OLD SOUL.
L: What am I?
L., ALSO.
The name and question were not recorded.
NOT A PART OF THE SAME ENTITY, THOUGH L. WAS A MID CYCLE MATURE SOUL.
ES: What is the level of a friend of mine, named R?
HE IS A - - - WE ARE HAVING DIFFICULTY - - - HE IS A MID CYCLE YOUNG SOUL.
THE INTERRUPTION IS DUE TO ENERGY LEVELS.
Our energy levels?
YES. YOU ARE TIRED AND THERE ARE SOME AGENDAS IN THE WAY.
YS and L. and I. and SB left.
M: I would like to ask if there is any significance in the fact that little
children bring me many wounded birds and I raise them until they are well.
Does this have any meaning for me?
NONE OTHER THAN OLD SOULS NORMALLY HAVE AN AFFINITY FOR ALL LIVING THINGS.
THE PERCEPTIONS OF CHILDREN ARE SURPRISINGLY KEEN. ABUSED AND TROUBLED
CHILDREN OFTEN KNOW WHERE TO FIND AN OLD SOUL. CHILDREN FEEL MUCH MORE
ACUTELY THAN ADULTS. THIS CAN BE EITHER POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE.
RH: I am concerned about the slow growth of the group. It was said that we
should spread the logos.
IT IS THE MANNER IN WHICH IT IS BEING PRESENTED THAT FRIGHTENS MANY. ARRANGE
THE DATA IN SOME SUITABLE FORM AND TEACH IT YOURSELVES. WE WILL BE WITH YOU
TO KEEP YOU FROM EMBELLISHING.
RH: I am disappointed in YS not being interested in the words here.
M: I think that he feels that true learning does not come that quickly.
There has to be a change in people and he can't see it.
ES: It has answered many questions for me.
RH: I have never seen a permanent change in people.
ES feels he has.
SC felt she did, also.





 

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