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November 8, 1973



08 November 1973
Present: RH and AH, ET and ST, SB, PJ, RF and BF, ES, JR, CS, B, D, N, SC
and RC, EM, SS.
WE ARE WITH YOU TONIGHT.
PJ: I had a heavy session yesterday with a friend. It might help me to know
her soul level, and also I would like to know if the situation was handled
properly by me?
YOUR FRIEND IS A FOURTH LEVEL YOUNG SOUL. YES.
PJ: What is E's role?
THE LADY IS A SCHOLAR.
RF: Two weeks ago Michael suggested further contact with meditation. I can't
concentrate and I need more advice on this.
MEDITATION IS THE CLEARING OF THE MIND OF TRIVIA AND ALLOWING THE FREE FLOW.
TRANSCENDENTAL MEDITATION PROVIDES GOOD GROUNDWORK FOR THOSE NEW TO THE
ENLIGHTENMENT GAME. THE MORE EXALTED FORMS SUCH AS THAT TAUGHT BY TRUNGPA
REQUIRES MUCH PREPARATION AND MAY TAKE YEARS TO PERFECT. ALSO, MANY MEDITATE
FOR ALL OF THEIR LIVES AND ACHIEVE NOTHING. TO BE EFFECTIVE, MEDITATION MUST
PREPARE ONE FOR ACTIVITY, NOT REST.
RF: I have energy surges after healing treatments, and I have a fear of this
being from false personality or my ego.
IF THE SURGE IS CAUSED BY ELATION OF A FALSE SORT, A FEELING OF TIREDNESS
WILL SUPERVENE SOON AFTERWARD.
ES: I have a question about my grandfather, a personal question. My
grandfather has a hearing aid that does not help him, and I would like to
ask if Michael has a suggestion about it.
THIS MAN HAS PRESBYCUSSIS. A HEARING AID IS ALL THAT WE WOULD THINK MIGHT
WORK.
There was a discussion here by ST and ES about hearing losses different
types and where help can be obtained.
ES: I have been reading of the concept that one has to be true to himself
be himself, an individual to perceive the infinite. Is this true?
THAT IS WHY SOCRATES SAID, "KNOW THYSELF". IF YOU PERCEIVE THAT WHICH IS
"REALLY YOU", YOU WILL CONCOMITANTLY PERCEIVE THE TAO.
EM: I would like to know how practical for me are the teachings of Joel
Goldsmith.
USEFUL APPLICATION OF THIS TEACHING WOULD BE EASY FOR YOU, BUT NOT TRULY
REWARDING IN THE LONG RUN, AND YOU WOULD SEARCH AGAIN.
EM: I have two more questions that need to be asked in order. One, what is
the relationship of the carnal and the mortal minds?
THE MORTAL MIND SHOULD BE SELF-EXPLANATORY, BUT THIS REFERS TO THAT WHICH IS
GOVERNED BY PHYSICAL STIMULI IN THE TRADITIONAL STIMULUS-RESPONSE SENSE. THE
MULTIMIND PERCEIVES THE MULTIDIMENSIONAL UNIVERSE THAT IS OUTSIDE OF
PHYSICAL SPACE AND BEYOND THE RESTRICTIONS OF TIME. THESE ARE VALID TERMS.
WE WOULD EXPRESS THEM DIFFERENTLY. WE SEE NO MORE SIGNIFICANCE, OR LESS
EITHER, IN THIS CONCEPT THAN IN ANY OF THE OTHER MAJOR PHILOSOPHICAL
TEACHINGS ALONG THIS SAME LINE. THEY ARE WORDS.
EM: They didn't answer about the carnal mind.
THE CARNAL MIND PERCEIVES THE WORLD IN TERMS OF SATIATION OF THE FLESH. IF
THIS WAS AN AFFLICTION OF YOURS WE DOUBT THAT YOU WOULD BE HERE. THIS REFERS
TO MAN'S BASER LIVES BEFORE THERE IS A GLIMMER OF UNDERSTANDING. THE
MULTIDIMENSIONAL IS MERELY THE NEXT STEP UP.
EM: Can you explain reality and unreality?
THE "REALITIES" OF COURSE DEPEND UPON THE PERCEIVER. THIS SESSION ITSELF IS
A GOOD EXAMPLE. SOME IN THIS ROOM PERCEIVE US AS REAL, OTHERS DO NOT. THE
SAME COULD BE SAID OF UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECTS AND MOST UNEXPLAINED
PHENOMENA. ANOTHER CONCEPT OF "REALITY" BEGINS WITH WIDESPREAD AGREEMENT
THAT A CERTAIN OBJECT IS REAL. WE THINK THAT BISHOP [George] BERKELEY HAD A
FEW WORDS ON THIS SUBJECT. THERE IS, OF COURSE, AN ULTIMATE REALITY THAT IS
ABSOLUTE. THIS CAN ONLY BE GLIMPSED WHEN THE LOGOS IS BROUGHT TO BEAR.
PHYSICAL THINGS ARE VERY REAL ON THE PHYSICAL PLANE, AND SHOULD BE RESPECTED
AS SUCH IN ORDER TO AVOID POSSIBLE SERIOUS COLLISIONS WITH DOORS THAT ARE
REALLY AND TRULY THERE. ON THE ASTRAL [plane], THINGS ARE TRULY REAL ON THE
ASTRAL PLANE. IN ANOTHER FRAME OF REFERENCE THE SAME ADMONITION [to be
careful of "real" things] HOLDS TRUE. WE ON THIS PLANE ALSO PERCEIVE CERTAIN
CAUSAL PHENOMENON AS "REAL" AND THERE IS AGREEMENT. WE BELIEVE THAT HOLDS
TRUE FOR THE HIGH PLANES. THIS SAME SUBJECT HAS BEEN OCCUPYING PHILOSOPHERS
HAPPILY NOW FOR MANY THOUSANDS OF YEARS. THERE IS, ODDLY ENOUGH, ALWAYS AN
OPPOSING OPINION THAT GOES SOMETHING LIKE: ACCEPT THAT NOTHING IS REAL. DOES
THIS SUGGEST ANYTHING TO YOU?
EM: Yes. Why did you not understand my questions?
WE HAVE ALREADY EXPRESSED THE POINT THAT EMOTIONAL CRISES AND THE LIKE ARE
SELF-INFLICTED, AND ARE ONLY REAL TO THE FALSE PERSONALITY OF THE ONE HAVING
THE CRISIS. THIS CAN BE EXTRAPOLATED OUT AD INFINITUM TO INCLUDE FALSE LEADS
FOLLOWED IN SEARCH OF THE PATH.
B: What is my soul level?
YOU ARE A FIFTH LEVEL MATURE SOUL.
JR: Tuesday I was robbed, and I would like some help from Michael in
catching the burglar, and getting back my money.
WE WOULD ADVISE THAT YOU NOT SEEK THE BURGLARS ON YOUR OWN. THERE IS DANGER
THERE. THEY ARE HAVING A PROBLEM WITH DRUG ADDICTION. CARELESSNESS IS WHY IT
HAPPENED. WE SUGGEST THAT YOU FOLLOW THE ADVICE OF LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS
AND LOCK YOUR DOORS.
B: I have an aunt in New Zealand who has been ill. Would Michael help us
with this? I am concerned for her, and would like to know what is wrong. She
shakes. Would it help to know her name? It is aunt GL.
THIS LADY HAS PARALYSIS AGITANS.
B: What is the treatment? Is there any treatment for that?
THERE ARE MANY PALLIATIONS AVAILABLE, BUT THIS IS A FAIRLY RELENTLESS PART
OF THE AGING PROCESS IN CERTAIN PHYSICAL BODIES.
B: I have another question, about the bursitis in my arms. Is there any more
treatment for it, or any suggestions far new treatment?
YES, THAT WOULD BE YOUR DESIRE TO BE RID OF THIS NOW. THE TREATMENTS ARE
SOUND. THIS BURSITIS WAS TRAUMATIC BUT NOW IS SERVING TO HOLD YOUR INTEREST
AWAY FROM OTHER MORE ESOTERIC MATTERS WHICH THE FALSE PERSONALITY DOES NOT
LIKE. IN ORDER TO COUNTERACT THIS POWERFUL NEGATIVE FORCE YOU MUST SOMEHOW
DECIDE TO IGNORE THE PHYSICAL DISCOMFORT. THE INFLAMMATION OF THE BURSA IS
EASILY CURED, BUT THE MEMORY LINGERS.
N: Could I ask what my soul level is?
YOU ARE A SIXTH LEVEL YOUNG SOUL. DON'T LET THEM [older souls] INTIMIDATE
YOU. THIS IS NO LESS ADVANTAGEOUS.
N: What is my Role? I would also like to know if I have met a soul mate in
this life.
IF YOU MEAN A FRAGMENT OF YOUR ORIGINAL ENTITY, NO. YOU HAVE HAD A KARMIC
ENCOUNTER.
There was a long discussion held here on the definition of karma. According
to Webster's: "Karma: the force generated by a person's actions, held in
Hinduism and Buddhism to perpetuate transmigration, and in its ethical
consequences to determine his destiny in his next existence." Several in the
group had different definitions.
ET: Well, I think we could sit here and discuss definitions all night. Why
don't we ask Michael?
IF YOU KNOCK E.T. TO THE GROUND THIS EVENING AND HE RECIPROCATES, THE DEBT
IS PAID, ALTHOUGH YOU BOTH MIGHT CHOOSE A MORE PACIFIED APPROACH TO PROBLEM
SOLVING THE NEXT TIME AROUND. IF, ON THE OTHER HAND, YOU STRIKE E.T. TONIGHT
AND DIE TOMORROW, OR OTHERWISE MAKE YOURSELF UNAVAILABLE, THEN CHANCES ARE
EXCELLENT THAT YOU WILL HAVE A KARMIC ENCOUNTER IN THIS LIGHT. THE YOUNG
LADY IS REFERRING TO A SITUATION WHERE THERE WAS DEATH WITH UNFULFILLED
DESIRE OF AN EROTIC NATURE. THESE WERE CONSUMMATED, IN A SENSE, THIS TIME
AROUND.
SS: Are there any Fragments of mine in this group?
THERE ARE NO FRAGMENTS OF YOUR ENTITY IN THIS GROUP. HOWEVER, YOUR ENTITY
WAS FIRST BORN DURING THE SAME TIME FRAME AS B.F.'S. IF YOU ARE REFERRING TO
PREVIOUS LIVES, WHICH WE THINK YOU ARE, WE HAVE NOT FORGOTTEN YOU. YOU WERE
A PRINTER OF SACRED LITERATURE TWICE, ONCE AS A SYLVAN ORACLE, AND AGAIN AS
A GREGORIAN MONK. YOU HAVE ALSO BEEN A TUTOR TO ROYAL CHILDREN THREE TIMES;
ALSO A NUN.
SS: Which children was I tutor for?
TO THE CHILDREN OF HAMMURABI, THE CHILDREN OF MARCUS ANTONIUS, AND THE
CHILDREN OF JAMES THE FIRST.
SS: Has this experience, this life, been affected by past lives?
AN UNEQUIVOCAL YES.
D: Could you tell me about some of my previous lives?
YOU HAVE BEEN A WARRIOR IN MOST PREVIOUS LIVES. THERE HAVE BEEN MANY
DIFFERENT LOCATIONS: BABYLON, CARTHAGE, ROME, GAUL, ENGLAND AND SPAIN. YOU
HAVE NOT CHOSEN TO DEVIATE FROM THIS PATTERN MUCH, AS YOU ENJOY THE
EXCITEMENT.
D: What is my Role, and what is my soul level?
YOU ARE A SEVENTH LEVEL MATURE SOUL.
D: And my Role?
YOU ARE A PRIEST.
SB: Are there any Fragments of my Entity in this group? If so, who? Can you
give me the name of one of my Fragments not here?
NO. WE WOULD RATHER NOT. THE ENTICEMENT BY GLAMOUR IS A POOR WAY TO BEGIN A
TEACHING. WE WOULD PREFER TO LET THE GROUP EXPAND FLOW SUCH AS THE CHANCE
TIDES. THERE IS A MEAN TIDE.
JR: What is my Role?
J.R. IS ALSO A PRIEST.
CS: Are any of my Fragments in this group? Have I met any of my Fragments in
this life? Will I?
YES.
EM: What is my soul level?
E.M. IS A SIXTH LEVEL OLD SOUL SCHOLAR.
CS: Okay, you've said I have known some Fragments. What is the person's
name?
C. WAS ONE. NO. THERE WILL BE OTHERS.
BF: Can you give us more in reference to mine and SS's Entity being born at
the same time?
THE ENTITIES WERE CAST FROM THE TAO AT THE SAME MOMENT IN TIME. [In
subsequent sessions, these were called "Cadre" members.]
SS: Does that mean we are a lot alike, or that we have a feeling for each
other?
MORE OF A FEELING OF DEJA VU THAN ORDINARILY PRESENT. YOU ARE MORE LIKELY TO
HAVE SIMILAR FLASHES WHILE READING OR TRAVELING, ALTHOUGH THIS DOES NOT
ALWAYS RING TRUE FOR EVERY LIFE OR EVERY LOCATION. FOR INSTANCE, B.F. LIVED
TO BE OVER ONE HUNDRED AT ONE TIME.
RH: Michael said that there were 150 Fragments here, in me, and I would like
to ask how many are male, and how many are female?
ALL OF THOSE FRAGMENTS EXPERIENCED IN LIFE AS BOTH INTEGRATED FRAGMENTS HAVE
NO GENDER. THERE ARE NO SEXED SOULS.
RH: Then, can we assume that Essence has no sexuality? Is this False
Personality?
EROTIC SEXUALITY, YES.
RH: Is there sexuality in Essence?
THERE IS, BUT IT IS NONCOMPETITIVE. [It is cooperative].
ES: Be what you are. A soul cannot realize, or mature, without physical
[experience].
THAT IS VALID. [This is] THE ONE GOVERNING FEATURE ANCHORING THE SOUL TO THE
PHYSICAL.
There was quite a discussion here about sexuality, False Personality and
Essence. Some at the meeting were uneasy because they thought Michael was
running down sex. Then came:
PLAN IS FANTASY, OR IF YOU WILL, IMAGINATION. IF THE SEXUAL ACT IS
SURROUNDED BY FANTASY IT IS BOTH COMPETITIVE AND UNREAL. IT IS NEITHER GOOD
NOR BAD [per se]. IT IS THAT WHICH INSURES THE CONTINUITY OF THE TAO. THIS
UNIVERSE HAS AN AWESOME ORDER.
AH: Is my Self-deprecation a karmic thing? Maybe I'll come back really
Arrogant.
NO. A.H. HAS NOT CHOSEN ARROGANCE. WE BELIEVE THAT SHE WILL.
RH: I was at EST this past weekend, and tried to perceive different people's
Roles and soul level. Was I correct on any of these?
SOME WERE. YOU FAILED IN YOUR PERCEPTION OF MATURE SOULS IN THE THROES OF AN
EMOTIONAL CRISIS. THIS CAN BE MISTAKEN FOR THE DRIVE AND VIGOR OF THE YOUNG
SOUL.
RH: I think I met two Kings, both female. One's name was Dorothy, and one
was Ann. Is that correct?
YOUR PERCEPTION OF ANN IS VALID. DOROTHY IS A REGAL WARRIOR.
RH: I placed Werner Erhard as a last cycle Mature Sage.
HE IS A FIRST LEVEL OLD SAGE.
AH: A friend of mine, Sandy, plays the piano. She and a sister [astral]
projected. What is her soul level?
SHE IS A MATURE ARTISAN, WHO PROJECTED ACCIDENTALLY.
AH: Was she with her sister in previous lives?
YES SHE WAS, ONLY BOTH WERE MALE.
AH: Have I been with S in previous lives?
NO.
RH: I have come to believe that the EST thing is a powerful tool for the
group. Is this true?
YES. WE HAVE SAID THIS. POSITIVE TOOLS ARE POWERFUL BY DEFINITION.
EM: What is the purpose?
TO SEEK LIBERATION OF THE TRAPPED ESSENCE THROUGH COMING TO GRIPS WITH THE
FRAILTY OF THE PHYSICAL BODY, AND ITS CRUDE, GROSS LIMITATIONS. YOU HAVE NOT
EXPERIENCED DISABILITY OF THIS GRAVITY FOR A LONG TIME. THIS TIME WE FEEL
THERE IS MUCH OPPORTUNITY.
B: Is my brother honest?
WITHIN HIS CONCEPT OF HONEST, YES, BUT DON'T COUNT ON THIS FULFILLING YOUR
EXPECTATIONS.
RF: Michael has said I am a Sage. I have the feeling that I have had lives
before with soldiers, and I would like them to verify that.
YOU ALWAYS EXPRESSED YOURSELF IN A MOST VOCIFEROUS WAY, EVEN AS A SOLDIER.
THIS RESULTED IN YOUR NOT ALWAYS BEING THERE AT THE FINISH, BUT YOU HAVE
ALSO BEEN A PHILOSOPHER OF SOME RENOWN TWICE: A TEACHER OF RHETORIC THREE
TIMES: ONCE IN ALEXANDRIA, AT THE SAME TIME THAT S.S. WAS EMPLOYED BY THE
HOUSEHOLD OF MARCUS ANTONIUS. YOU WERE ALSO A STEVEDORE ONCE, BUT STILL
MANAGED TO EXPOUND. IN FACT, YOU ENDED UP OWNING THE SHIPS YOU ONCE LOADED.
RF: Oh, wow; which philosophers?
ONE OF THE PHILOSOPHERS WAS EPICTETUS, AND DAVID HUME.
ES: I don't see just what is important about past lives? What is their
importance now? I was a king in Greece.
KNOWING THE NAMES ONLY SERVES AS A GOOD SPRINGBOARD. THIS ENABLES YOU TO
PERUSE YOUR POSSIBLE ALTERNATIVES IN A LEISURELY FASHION. IF S.C. CAN
OUTGROW HER FEAR OF NAMES, THIS COULD BE QUITE INSTRUCTIVE, AS IT COULD
WEAVE A MOST INTERESTING TAPESTRY. GREECE WAS NOT THE COUNTRY, E.S.
PJ: Would you tell me about past lives?
P.J. HAS CHOSEN ALMOST CONSISTENTLY GOOD ESSENCE ROLES, BUT WAS NOT READY AT
THE TIME TO EVOLVE. SHE WAS AN ARCHITECT IN ROME. SHE WAS A PAINTER IN
SPAIN. SHE HAS ALSO BEEN A SEAMSTRESS, A TEACHER OF MUSIC, AND A WANDERING
MINSTREL; ALSO, A VERY GOOD VIOLINIST.
ES: What is this about the king? Where was it?
E.S. WAS A CHIEFTAIN OF A TRIBE, A LARGE ONE IN SOUTH AFRICA.
RC: What should I do about the 95 acres?
DO WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO DO.
RC: I feel as if anything I would do now would be from false personality,
because of my profession, my work. I do not feel that I should do anything
because it is false personality, not essence.
THEN DO NOT. WAIT UNTIL IT FEELS RIGHT.
ET: How does everyone feel about a unanimous ending of the meeting now?
Could we take a vote?
We all agreed it was late and time to end tonight. Next meeting was
scheduled for November 15, 1973, at the H's.









 

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