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November 29, 1973



29 November 1973
Is anyone with us tonight?
YES WE ARE.
Any general statements for us?
WE WOULD PREFER TO LET THE EVENING PROGRESS NORMALLY AND COMMENT FROM TIME
TO TIME.
I am confused about which souls inhabit what planes after the physical
level. I would like more information about this
THERE ARE OF COURSE SEVEN PLANES IN ALL, EACH WITH SEVEN LEVELS. BEYOND THE
ASTRAL PLANE IS THE CAUSAL PLANE WITH SEVEN LEVELS: THREE LOW, ONE MID
CAUSAL PLANE LEVEL, UPON WHICH WE RESIDE, AND THREE HIGHER LEVELS UPON WHICH
RESIDE THE HIGH CAUSAL BODIES THE TRANSCENDENTAL SOULS CONTIGUOUS WITH
THIS PLANE; AND THE MENTAL PLANE IS THE AKASHIC PLANE, WHICH IS A
PHOTOGRAPHIC RECORD OF ALL HISTORY. SOME VERY HIGH ADEPTS HAVE ACCESS TO
THIS PLANE. ON THE MENTAL PLANE RESIDES THE INFINITE SOUL AND THE LOW AND
MID-MENTAL BODIES. BEYOND THIS IS THE BUDDHIC PLANE, AND UPON THIS LEVEL ARE
ALL OF THOSE SOULS WHO HAVE ACHIEVED PHYSICAL COMMUNION WITH THE TAO. BEYOND
THIS OF COURSE, [is] THE TAO.
Is the Theosophical teaching accurate, e.g., what Annie Bessant wrote?
SOME OF IT IS, SOME OF IT ISN'T. THE LADY [Theosophist] ALICE BAILEY WROTE
SOME INSPIRED MATERIAL.
After death, do we go to the astral plane?
SINCE THE SOUL, BETWEEN LIVES, IS WITHOUT A SUITABLE PHYSICAL VEHICLE, IT
MUST RESIDE ON THE LOW ASTRAL PLANE, SINCE THAT IS THE LOWEST LEVEL WHERE A
BODY OF THE ORGANIC SORT IS NOT REQUIRED.
EC: How do you go from one level to another?
THE KARMA IS JUST DIFFERENT, THAT IS ALL.
RH: My perception of BL is Venusian, Emotional Center, mid cycle Old Priest.
SHE IS A PRIEST, LUNAR-VENUSIAN, A FIRST LEVEL OLD SOUL.
RH: My perception is that sex and sexual relationships are the major
impediment on this plane to staying on the path. If we are going to have a
medical clinic and grow, it is essential to deal with this problem.
YOUR PERCEPTION OF COURSE IS COMPLETELY VALID. THIS IS THE REASON WHY MOST
ADEPTS EVENTUALLY REFRAIN FROM ENTERING INTO SUCH RELATIONSHIPS. SOME, BUT
ONLY RELATIVELY FEW, HAVE BEEN ABLE TO CONTINUE TO ENGAGE IN A PHYSICAL
SEXUAL RELATIONSHIP WHILE EVOLVING SPIRITUALLY. THE REASON FOR THIS SHOULD
BE FAIRLY OBVIOUS WHEN YOU STOP AND REALIZE THAT SEXUALITY OF THE PHYSICAL
SORT PERTAINS TO THE PHYSICAL PLANE. THIS DOES NOT EXIST ON THE OTHER
PLANES. IT IS SUPPLANTED BY MORE OPEN COMMUNICATION. PERSONS WHO ARE HOSTILE
AND AGGRESSIVE ENOUGH TO INFLICT PAIN OR DEATH UPON OTHER PERSONS ARE ALWAYS
FOUND TO BE SEXUALLY UPTIGHT IN SOME WAY. SEXUALLY SATIATED PERSONS ARE
NORMALLY PASSIVE, BUT THIS IS ONLY TRUE WHEN THE MIND ACCEPTS THE SEXUAL ACT
IN THE SAME FRAME AS THE BODY DOES. AS LONG AS THERE IS CONFLICT IN THE
MIND, THERE IS NOT COMPLETE SATISFACTION, AND AGGRESSION RESULTS.
RH: Can Michael give us information which would help us cease sexual
activity?
THAT IS DRASTIC FOR MOST PERSONS. WE WOULD HOPE THAT YOU WOULD STRIVE MORE
FOR PASSIVE NONIDENTIFICATION.
RH: Please explain "passive nonidentification".
SOLEAL'S ADVISE IS COLORED BY HIS OWN PERSONAL BIAS, BUT STILL GOOD. WE
DOUBT THAT THIS IS AN IMPOSSIBLE GOAL FOR MOST. BASICALLY, IT WOULD MEAN
SATISFYING THOSE NEEDS WHICH ARE STRICTLY PHYSICAL WITH A MINIMUM OF FUSS
AND BOTHER. THE GREATEST ENERGY LOSS IS NOT IN THE SEX ACT ITSELF BUT IN THE
FANTASY THAT SURROUNDS [it]. THE CALORIES YOU BURN ARE REALLY INSIGNIFICANT.
ES: I have difficulty in understanding the development of the soul. We grow
up with conflicts and images of self. I cannot let go with other people or
myself.
THE OBJECT IS NOT SO MUCH TO GIVE UP SELF, AS IT IS TO FIND SELF. YOU ARE
ENCASED IN SO MANY LAYERS OF FACADE, THAT YOU CANNOT EVEN PERCEIVE THE
SOURCE OF YOUR DESIRES, LET ALONE CONTROL THEIR EMANATIONS. THE FINAL LEVEL
OF SPIRITUAL EVOLUTION ON THE PHYSICAL PLANE PERTAINS OF COURSE TO THE
ABSOLUTE CONTROL OF THE DESIRE, NOT JUST THE ACTING OUT. THIS IS A VERY
GRADUAL PROCESS, THE FIRST STEP OF WHICH IS TO RECOGNIZE THAT THERE ARE
CONFLICTS, WHICH YOU HAVE DONE.
AH: Is Robert Monroe's program valuable?
TO ACHIEVE OUT-OF-THE-BODY EXPERIENCE SOME OF YOU COULD FOLLOW THE MAN
ROBERT'S METHOD. OTHERS WOULD FIND IT DIFFICULT AND TERRIFYING. IT IS A
FAIRLY CERTAIN WAY. THIS MAN ROBERT IS INTERESTED IN FINDING OTHERS TO DO
GROUP WORK WITH HIM ON THE ASTRAL PLANE. WE APPROVE OF THIS AS GOOD. SOLEAL
DOES THIS ALSO.
SS: Who should do it?
WE BELIEVE THAT R.C. AND R.H. AND E.T. WOULD PROFIT THE MOST FROM THIS
EXPERIENCE. S.S., W.W., A.H., S.C., AND P.J. WOULD ENJOY IT. E.S. IS
SKEPTICAL. R.F. WOULD FIND IT INTERESTING. WITHOUT PREPARATION, E.C. MIGHT
FIND THE EXPERIENCE FRIGHTENING; WITH STUDY SHE WOULD BENEFIT.
SB: What about the rest of us?
S.B. HAS AN UNRESOLVED CONFLICT NOW ABOUT A PREVIOUS EXPERIENCE. THE OTHERS
WOULD NOT BE FRIGHTENED.
RF: Was the out-of-body experience I had real?
THAT WAS REAL.
JC: What happened to my former wife who died? Is she happy?
HAPPINESS IS NOT SO DIFFICULT ONCE THE CONFLICTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE
PHYSICAL PLANE ARE RESOLVED. MOST SOULS BETWEEN LIVES ARE, RELATIVELY
SPEAKING, CONTENT. THE YOUNGER SOULS ARE MORE ATTACHED TO THE PHYSICAL PLANE
AND HAVE A GREATER URGE TO REINCARNATE. THIS GIVES RISE SOMETIMES TO BAD
CHOICES, OR A SORT OF RESTLESSNESS. SPECIFICALLY, THE SOUL ABOUT WHOM YOU
INQUIRE IS A YOUNG SOUL, NOT YET ENGAGED IN THE REVIEW OF THE KARMIC THREADS
YET.
EC: About three years ago, my sister-in-law's personality changed. It
troubles her, and she would like some help to understand this.
WE HAVE DISCUSSED THIS LADY AT LENGTH. HER PRIMARY DIFFICULTY SHOULD BE
RESOLVED IF SHE WOULD TRUST THE INTUITION. THE CHANGE THAT OCCURRED IS
NOTHING MORE SERIOUS THAN A LATE MANIFESTATION [of the fourth milestone].
SHE FEELS NOW VERY INSECURE. SHE WAS VERY SECURE IN HER OLD ROLE, WHERE
EVERYTHING WAS CLEARLY DEFINED. NOW THE EDGES ARE BLURRED. SHE DOES NOT LIKE
THIS, BUT IT IS OF COURSE PREFERABLE, AND IS THE INITIAL OPENING OF THE
DOOR. WARRIORS FIND THE "PATH" ESPECIALLY STEEP AND ROCKY. ALL HER OLD
RELATIONSHIPS WERE TAKEN FOR GRANTED. FOR THE FIRST TIME IN HER LIFE SHE WAS
FACED WITH THE CHALLENGE OF CREATING NEW RELATIONSHIPS OUT OF TOTALLY NEW
MATERIAL, AND WITH A NEW GAME WITH DIFFERENT RULES.
ST: Comment on the value of her present work done at the "Association for
Research and Enlightenment" [Edgar Cayce] clinic, especially their views of
dream interpretation.
SOME OF THE WORK BEING DONE THERE IS EXTREMELY VALUABLE. WE ARE NOT
IMPRESSED WITH WHAT APPEARS TO BE A DOCTRINAL BIAS, BUT ASIDE FROM THAT,
YES.
ET: Religious bias?
NOT SPECIFICALLY RELIGIOUS, MORE JUDGMENTAL. BUT THIS PERTAINS TO THE
SCIENTIFIC METHOD OF RESEARCH. THE DREAM WORK IS PERHAPS NOW THEIR MOST
VALUABLE STUDY.
PJ: When I climb into bed I can get into a dream where I left off the night
before!
THIS IS POSSIBLE FOR ALL OF YOU. THAT IS WHY DREAM WORK IS SO VALUABLE.
P.J.'S DREAMS ARE VERY ORGANIZED AND SHE IS NOW ABLE TO CONTINUE THE SAME
DREAM. ALL OF YOU CAN WITH PRACTICE. FIRST YOU MUST BE AWARE OF THE
SYMBOLISM IN YOUR DREAMS AND WHY YOU ARE DREAMING.
SS: How can hypnosis be used.
IT CAN BE USED SOMETIMES TO EFFECTIVELY UNBLOCK THOSE MEMORIES THAT YOUR
FALSE PERSONALITY WOULD PREFER NOT TO LOOK AT. MARIJUANA AND OTHER DRUGS OF
THIS TYPE PRODUCE A SIMILAR RESULT, BUT ARE SOMETIMES OBSCURED BY
INTERFERENCE AS THEY PROPEL YOU TO THE ASTRAL LEVEL, AND SOMETIMES THERE IS
CONFUSION THERE, ESPECIALLY WITH THE STRONGER DRUGS SUCH AS MESCALINE (so)
THAT YOU ARE NOT CERTAIN WHAT IS MEMORY AND WHAT IS NEW EXPERIENCE IN
ANOTHER DIMENSION.
AH: Is hypnosis more reliable in differentiating between new experiences and
forgotten ones?
USUALLY, AS THERE IS NO MOVEMENT BETWEEN PLANES EXCEPT IN EXCEPTIONALLY DEEP
TRANCES.
BL: In my reading, a Master (Rama Krishna) touched his pupils on the
forehead and told them they would be more aware.
RITUAL IS SOMETIMES EXTREMELY VALUABLE. IT ONLY WORKS FOR THOSE WHO BELIEVE
IN ITS POWER. ACTUAL TRANSFERENCE OF ENERGY BETWEEN ADEPTS ONLY OCCURS WHEN
BOTH ARE TELEPATHS.
BL: Will there be anyone in our group with that power?
THERE ARE ADEPTS WHO CAN DO THIS. SOLEAL IS ONE. THERE ARE ADEPTS ON YOUR
PLANET WHO CAN DO THIS WITH PRACTICE.
RF: Who are they? -
IN THIS GROUP THERE ARE MANY WHO CAN, ONE WHO WILL.
RF: Who specifically?
THIS KNOWLEDGE ALONE HAS IN THE PAST SERVED TO PROPEL PERSONS FROM THE PATH
INTO A DEPENDENCY MORASS OF FALSE PERSONALITY. SELF-STYLED GURUS ARE LEGION.
BF: I would like to know Michael's opinion of bioenergetics.
WE, ON THE WHOLE, APPROVE OF THIS IN THE HANDS OF A SPIRITUALLY EVOLVED
THERAPIST.
BF: Is PA in that category?
[He is] MEDIOCRE, BUT ALL RIGHT; THERE ARE OTHERS.
BF: Is PJ mediocre because of the soul level?
YES; ALSO [because of] HIS OWN CONFLICTS. YOU COULD LEARN THIS DISCIPLINE
YOURSELVES AND PRACTICE. THE MAN S. IS GOOD.
SB asked a silent question.
S.B., THE CHOICE IS YOURS. YOU CAN EITHER CHOOSE TO PLUNGE [or not]. THE
RISK IS NOT AS GREAT AS YOU MIGHT THINK.
RF: I want Michael's comments on a previous entity encounter with NL.
BY "ENTITY" WE ASSUME YOU MEAN "FRAGMENT". THERE HAVE BEEN PAST ENCOUNTERS,
YES.
RF: Can you give me one?
YOU WERE TOGETHER WHEN YOU WERE DAVID [Hume, the philosopher].
RF: What affect do our previous lives have on this one?
BOTH GOOD AND BAD, OF COURSE. WHAT YOU ACHIEVED PREVIOUSLY IS NOT EMPHASIZED
THIS TIME. WHAT YOU LACKED THEN IS NOW EMPHASIZED. THOSE TRAITS OR
CHARACTERISTICS THAT ARE IN ESSENCE FOR YOU ARE THE SAME FROM LIFE TO LIFE.
THAT IS WHY YOU AND DAVID [Hume] HAVE MUCH IN COMMON
RF: Are we affected in our daily living.
ALL OF IT.
RF: Do we feel the same way in our present life as in our previous ones?
ONLY THAT WHICH IS IN ESSENCE. YOU DO NOT DRAG YOUR FALSE PERSONALITY AROUND
BETWEEN LIVES.
RF: Some of the same concepts I have now would be the same as those of David
Hume?
THAT IS VALID.
ET: I am treating a cancer patient with hypnosis. Can Michael give me advice
to what else I can do?
YOU CAN HELP HER TO FIND THE SOURCE OF HER RESENTMENTS. MOST CANCER VICTIMS
HAVE A PERVASIVE SENSE OF SHAME OVER INCONSEQUENTIAL HAPPENINGS. THIS IS
TRULY ONE OF THE MOST SELF-DESTRUCTIVE PROCESSES WE KNOW OF. MORE OF THESE
UNFORTUNATE PEOPLE HAVE A SENSE OF NO ACCOMPLISHMENT OR A SENSE OF BEING
DIRECTED BY OTHERS. THE CANCER IS OFTEN THE ONLY ESCAPE. MANY OF THESE
PEOPLE GIVE AN OUTWARD APPEARANCE OF SUCCESS, SOME EVEN TRANQUILLITY. THE
TARGET ORGAN IS OFTEN THE SEAT OF THE CONFLICT. THIS IS ESPECIALLY TRUE WITH
THE REPRODUCTIVE ORGANS.
ET: Could I work with energies to help her?
WE WOULD HOPE THAT YOU WOULD TRY. WE FEEL THAT YOU HAVE MUCH PROMISE IN THIS
AREA.
ET: If she understands the source of her resentment, could she be cured?
[Yes, she could] IF SHE CHOOSES TO GIVE UP THE RESENTMENT.
ET: Is she conscious of the resentment?
NO.
BL: Is there someone else who could do a better job?
THE TRUST LEVEL BETWEEN THERAPIST AND PATIENT MUST BE EXTREMELY HIGH. IN
OTHER WORDS, SHE MUST HAVE A BELIEF IN HIS ABILITY TO DO THIS.
ET: Are there two primary cancers or one?
THERE IS ONLY ONE PRIMARY TARGET ORGAN, THE COLON.
SS: What does she associate pain with?
MOST PERSONS WHO HAVE BEEN FORTUNATE ENOUGH NOT TO HAVE HAD MUCH PAIN ARE
TERRIBLY AFRAID OF IT. IT IS MORE OF THE SAME OLD FEAR OF THE UNKNOWN. ALL
OF YOUR LITERATURE IS RESPLENDENT WITH GRUESOME ACCOUNTS OF THE AGONIES
ASSOCIATED WITH THIS DISEASE. WE ARE NOT SURPRISED THAT IT IS FEARED.
ET: What is her soul Age and Role?
THIS IS A MATURE SOUL, MID CYCLE. SHE IS A WARRIOR.
RH: I guess BF is Saturn, some Mercurial, Moving Centered; and RF is mainly
Mercurial, Intellectually Centered.
THE MALE [R.F.] IS MOSTLY MERCURIAL. THE REST IS VALID.
BF: Michael had me as a pirate and mother of a famous artist in the
eighteenth century.
NO, THIS IS IN ERROR. THE CENTURY ON THE PIRATE WAS THE EARLY NINETEENTH
CENTURY. WE BELIEVE WE SAID THE EIGHTEEN HUNDREDS. YOU WERE A MATURE SOUL.
BF: Was that my last life?
NO, THE PIRATE WAS IN BETWEEN. THERE WAS NO ACCELERATION. ETIENNE
[Delacroix] LIVED ONLY THIRTY-FOUR YEARS.
AH: Was I ever anything exciting, or was I always a dumb farmer?
YOU NEVER TILLED THE SOIL. YES, YOU HAVE HAD SEVERAL EXCITING LIVES: AS
SECRETARY TO AN EMPEROR; AS THE FAVORITE WIFE OF A NEAR EASTERN RULER.
RF: What is the Role of the Egyptian general who is part of my Entity and
living now?
HE IS LIKE YOU, A MATURE SAGE.
RH: BF does not seem like an Artisan.
THIS IS NOT AN ERROR. SHE IS AN ARTISAN. THE LIFE OF A PIRATE IS ONE CHOICE
THAT CAN RESULT IN AN APPRECIATION OF MANY FACETS OF LIFE, OTHERWISE
UNOBSERVABLE. AT ONE TIME OR ANOTHER YOU ALL CHOOSE HER LIFE ROLES.
RF: What are the total number of Fragments in the general?
THE EGYPTIAN GENERAL HAS ACCESS TO THE SAME NUMBER OF UNITED FRAGMENTS [as
you do]. THIS MAN IS SEEKING IN HIS OWN WAY: [he] HAS DONE SOME READING;
MADE A PILGRIMAGE TO AN OLD TEMPLE RECENTLY FOR UNKNOWN REASONS. HE WAS
PUZZLED WHEN HE GOT THERE [he] HAD A POWERFUL EXPERIENCE OF DEJA VU. THERE
ARE EIGHTY-NINE OF THESE UNUNITED SAGE FRAGMENTS, OF WHICH YOU AND THE
GENERAL ARE TWO. EACH OF YOU HAS ACCESS TO THE UNITED FRAGMENTS OF YOUR
ORIGINAL ENTITY, WHICH IS NOW A PART OF THE LOW ASTRAL BODY. ERROR: [there
are] EIGHTY-EIGHT [Fragments].
Comment later:
PSYCHIC ENERGY IS THE ENERGY GENERATED BY THE ESSENCE. IT IS NATURALLY A
MORE REFINED ENERGY THAN THAT GENERATED BY THE INTERNAL CENTERS OF EMOTION,
INTELLECT AND INSTINCTIVE AND MOVING FUNCTIONS. THIS ENERGY IS INDEPENDENT
OF THE OTHERS. S.T. HAS MUCH OF THIS AVAILABLE.









 

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