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 November 19, 1974



Oakland

The meeting began with a discussion of business. A dinner and meeting at the La Petite Village, 3105 Shattuck, Berkeley, was announced. ______, the editor of Psychic Magazine, will be there.

_____ asked for a comment as a teacher from the teacher.

THEN IT WOULD BE GOOD WORK FOR US NOT TO COMMENT, AS THEN YOU WOULD BE FORCED TO BREAK PATTERNS. YOUR LOOKING FOR A COMMENT IS AN EXPECTATION OF US. DO YOU PHOTOGRAPH THAT? ALSO, WE SENSE IN SOME THE NEED TO VERIFY THAT WE ARE INDEED ON TAP. YES, WE ARE.

______ asked for a comment about the tie felt between he and _____, and the power felt by them. He asked for a comment on the validity of the Soleal experience and contacting the teacher. Why does he run away from the experience?

ONCE YOU MET WITH THIS WARRIOR IN SYRIA PALESTINE, BEFORE THE MANIFESTATION OF THE INFINITE SOUL. YOU DID NOT THEN KNOW THE MAN JESUS, AND TO YOU, THIS WARRIOR WAS SIMPLY ANOTHER ROMAN GENERAL TO BE SCORNED. THEN LATER, THE IMPACT OF THE ENCOUNTER RETURNED TO YOUR CONSCIOUSNESS; BUT BY THAT TIME THE WARRIOR WAS NO LONGER ON THE PHYSICAL PLANE. THE ENCOUNTER WAS BRIEF, BUT POWERFUL FOR BOTH. THEN AGAIN, YOU MET THIS WARRIOR IN THE LATER PART OF THE TWELFTH CENTURY. AGAIN, THE ENCOUNTER WAS A POWERFUL ONE, AND THIS TIME YOU COULD NOT EVADE AGAIN. YOU FACED EACH OTHER ACROSS THE LINES AS ENEMIES, BUT THE COMMON CAUSE WAS GREATER AND MORE COMPELLING THAN THE BATTLE AT HAND. YES, _____, YOU DO RUN FROM US STILL, BUT WE WILL KEEP TRYING, AND PERHAPS YOU WILL TOO. THE CONTACTS WITH OUR STUDENT SHOULD BECOME FAR MORE FREQUENT NOW FOR THOSE WHO ARE OPEN TO IT, AND SHOULD HE CUSHION THE “CULTURAL SHOCK” WHEN IT HAPPENS.

_____ asked who he was in the twelfth century.

IN THAT LIFE THE MAN _____ HAD TAKEN THE HOLY ORDERS, BUT WHEN THE CALL CAME JOINED THE FORCES OF RICHARD AS A KNIGHT. HE WAS FROM A WEALTHY FAMILY IN THE SOUTH OF FRANCE, AND DIED AT ACRE.

______ commented on his belief that he had contacted a memory of his most previous past life, of starving at age three years at Auschwitz. _____ made the comment that no children had lived past 24 hours in the camp.

WE WOULD ANSWER BY SAYING THAT MOST OF THE YOUNGSTERS WHO ARE NOW SEARCHING WITH SO MUCH FERVOR HAVE THIS EXPERIENCE AS THEIR IMPETUS. THE MOVEMENT TOWARD SIMPLICITY THAT THIS GENERATION ESPOUSES HAS ARISEN FROM THESE STILL FRESH MEMORIES. ABOUT SEVENTY PERCENT OF THOSE BETWEEN FIFTEEN AND TWENTY-FIVE HAVE THIS OR A SIMILAR EXPERIENCE IN THE RECENT PAST; THE NAZI PRISON CAMPS, THE DEVASTATION OF HIROSHIMA, NAGASAKI, AND OTHER DEATHS ATTRIBUTABLE TO THE TWO GLOBAL CONFLICTS. YOU ARE CORRECT IN ASSUMING THAT MOST OF THE SOULS CAST ON THIS WORLD ARE NOW ALIVE OR JUST HAVE BEEN OR WILL STILL LIVE WITHIN THIS PRESENT CENTURY.

_____ asked for a comment on a dream he had had — was the teacher behind it? He felt psychic after the dream. In the dream there was a red robe, [sic] handcuffed Christ, then handcuffed _____ — maybe he was Pilate or Gaius — he is not positive who he was.

IN THE LIFE AT THAT TIME YOU WERE ONE OF THE SEVENTY, OR ONE OF THE SANHEDRIN. YOU VOTED WITH THE MAJORITY. THE REST OF THE DREAM IS SYMBOLIC, OF COURSE. YOU DID NOT ACTUALLY LAY HANDS ON EITHER OF THESE MEN — NONE OF YOU DID — BUT YOUR VOTE WAS COUNTED.

_____ asked if he was Isaiah. Why does it feel like a burden connected with _____ and _____?

WHEN THERE ARE HARSH SEQUENCES STILL RIDING FROM THE PAST, THE RESPONSE IS USUALLY CHARGED WITH AMBIVALENCE, USUALLY INTERPRETED AS NEGATIVITY. THIS RECEDES THEN WITH UNDERSTANDING. IN YOUR CASE THERE WAS STILL A REMEMBERED GUILT, AND WHEN YOU SAW HIM AGAIN, THIS PRODUCED AMBIVALENT FEELINGS IN YOU THAT YOU COULD NOT INTERPRET AS WHAT THEY WERE. AS FOR THE VERIFICATION, WE WOULD ASK YOU TO MEDITATE UPON THIS INFORMATION AND TRY TO LOOK AT YOUR OWN INSIGHTS.

_____ asked for a comment about the trauma of birth: Is a Cesarean section more traumatic for the baby? Babies cry so hard at birth — why? Is there blocked recall or memory at birth?

THE FIRST CRY OF THE NEWBORN IS USUALLY RESPONSE TO OUTRAGE AND PAIN. THIS IS IN PART SPARED IN THE ANIMAL KINGDOM AS THE MOTHER ANIMAL IS USUALLY A BIT MORE SOLICITOUS, BUT YES, OPERATIVE DELIVERIES ARE JUST AS TRAUMATIC FOR THESE BABIES. THE ABRUPT REMOVAL FROM THE WARMTH AND COMFORT OF THE UTERUS INTO THE OPEN COLD ROOM WITH THE NECESSITY TO STRUGGLE FOR BREATH IS HARDER SOMETIMES FOR THESE LITTLE ONES. THOSE BORN NORMALLY DO ACQUIRE SOME STRENGTH ON THE TRIP OUT.

_____ asked if he had incurred any karma, and if so, with whom. He also asked if he had started to work on it.

WE HAVE TOLD YOU OF THE RIBBON WITH THE LADY _____. THIS YOU HAVE BEGUN TO ACKNOWLEDGE, YES. THERE ARE NO OTHER RIBBONS PAYABLE IN THIS LIFE. RIBBONS USUALLY POP UP DURING LIFETIMES WHERE SIMILAR CIRCUMSTANCES EXIST. FOR THIS REASON MANY DO NOT COME DUE FOR SEVERAL LIFETIMES, BUT THE SOUL REMEMBERS.

Don Juan [of the Carlos Castaneda books] was referred to in the past tense. Has he died, or does it involve the transcendental soul taking over the body?

NO, THE TRANSCENDENTAL SOUL HAS NOT MANIFESTED, BUT THIS SOUL HAS BECOME AN ADEPT, AND FOR THIS REASON MUCH DOES NOT APPLY IN THE SAME SENSE. WE REFERRED, WE BELIEVE, TO OVERLEAVES WHICH NO LONGER APPLY, SUCH AS CHIEF FEATURES AND ENTRAPMENT IN CENTERS. IF MORE WAS INFERRED THIS WAS AN ERROR IN TRANSMISSION.

_____ asked for a comment about a perception she had about a patient she is working with. She felt it was her own mother’s mother, and that she had abandoned her. Is there anything that could be said to help here?

SHE DID NOT ABANDON THE CHILD, BUT PERHAPS SHOULD HAVE. THERE IS A HEAVY KARMIC RIBBON HERE. THIS CHILD WAS SOLD INTO SLAVERY BY HER MOTHER, AND YES, THE REVERSAL IS TRUE.

_____ asked for a comment about the past two weeks with _____, and the problems she has had with her mother — is there karma between _____ and her mother, and is it still going on?

THIS IS NOT A RIBBON, BUT A DEPENDENCY SEQUENCE THAT THEY STARTED MANY LIVES AGO AS BROTHERS. THE RELATIONSHIP HAS NOT BEEN AN EASY ONE BECAUSE BOTH OF THESE FALSE PERSONALITIES FIGHT AGAINST THE SEQUENCE ON THE PHYSICAL PLANE. THIS IS NOT AN UNCOMMON HAPPENING. IN FACT, MANY OF YOU FOUGHT BITTERLY AGAINST FULFILLING THE SEQUENCES YOU AGREED UPON IN THE ASTRAL INTERVALS, SOMETIMES WITH EVENTUAL REFUSAL. THE LADY _____ IS NOW IN A POSITION TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE SEQUENCE AND WORK ON IT.

_____ spoke of his feelings that there was a strong attraction between _____ and _____: Is this from previous lives? Or is it from false personality? He asked for a comment from Michael about his feelings in this.

THESE TWO HAVE HAD MANY SEQUENCES IN THE PAST AND MANY LIVES HAVE BEEN INTERRELATED, BUT THE INSIGHT IS VALID. IN THIS CULTURE THOSE ON THE PHYSICAL PLANE HAVE A TENDENCY TO SEXUALIZE ALL ENCOUNTERS WITH ONE OF ANOTHER GENDER. IF THEY FEEL POWERFUL EMOTIONAL DISCHARGES AROUND THIS OTHER PERSON THEY INTERPRET THEM AS EROS OR SEXUAL ATTRACTION, AND THE FALSE PERSONALITY DEMANDS GRATIFICATION. IN THE SOUL IN A TEACHING, OR THE SOUL GOING INTO BALANCE, THIS GRATIFICATION CAN SOMETIMES BRING ABOUT STARTLING PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE PERSONALITY AT WORK, AND THE EXPECTATIONS THEY HAD OF THE OTHER, BASED UPON THE INTERPRETATION OF THE EMOTION. SOULS ON THE PHYSICAL PLANE, UNTIL THEY MEET WITH A TEACHING, HAVE NO MECHANISM WITH WHICH TO INTERPRET EMOTIONS ACCURATELY. THEY MUST MERELY INTERPRET ACCORDING TO THE DICTATES OF THE CULTURE.

THE PHYSICAL PLANE AND ITS PERVASIVE ATMOSPHERE DEMANDS THAT YOU “DO” SOMETHING PHYSICAL ABOUT ETHEREAL MATTERS. CONSEQUENTLY, WHEN THE ESSENCE AWAKENS FOR AN INSTANT AND FEELS LOVE FOR ITS ESSENCE TWIN OR AN OLD TWIN, THE FALSE PERSONALITY IMMEDIATELY GOES TO WORK ON THIS EMOTION, CONVERTING IT INTO SOMETHING IT CAN UNDERSTAND. THIS IS WHAT IS MEANT BY SOME SPIRITUAL LEADERS WHO EXHORT THEIR FOLLOWERS TO RISE ABOVE THE PHYSICAL PLANE. MECHANICAL MAN HAS NOT LEARNED TO RISE ABOVE THE DESIRE FOR INSTANT GRATIFICATION; THEREFORE HE EXPERIENCES MUCH FRUSTRATION, SINCE THE CULTURE LARGELY DENIES HIM THAT GRATIFICATION.

CULTURES THAT IMPOSE RULES OF SOCIAL CONDUCT AND INTERPERSONAL RELATIONSHIPS USUALLY ARISE OUT OF THE FRUSTRATIONS OF UNFULFILLED EXPECTATIONS. THE SEXUAL EXPERIENCE NEVER ATTAINS THE HEIGHT THAT IT IS EXPECTED TO, AS IT IS USED IN PLACE OF LOVE SO MANY TIMES, AND THE PERSONALITY, NOT KNOWING ANY BETTER, BLAMES THE PARTNER FOR THE FAILURE TO PRODUCE BLISS, WHEN THE RESPONSIBILITY LIES WITHIN SELF AND SELF’S RIDICULOUS EXPECTATIONS OF A BIOLOGIC ACT WHICH COMES BASIC TO THE ORGANISM. MAN CONSIDERS HIMSELF CIVILIZED BECAUSE HE HAS RISEN ABOVE OESTROS [estrus = being “in heat"]. WHAT AN ASPIRATION!

It has been said that Peter and Judas were Priests. Were all of Christ’s disciples in the Priest Role?

THE APOSTLE PAUL WAS ALSO A PRIEST, YES. THE DISCIPLES THOMAS AND MATTHEW WERE BOTH WARRIORS. THE DISCIPLE JOHN WAS AN ARTISAN. THE OTHERS WERE PRIESTS.

_____ asked if any members of our group, aside from _____ were among the twelve.

THIS INSIGHT HAS OCCURRED TO ONE MEMBER OF THIS CADRE. WE WOULD DEFER A DEFINITIVE ANSWER UNTIL THIS STUDENT HAS HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO VERIFY HIS INSIGHTS.

Is it _____?

NO.

_____ asked for an SRG on a Greek student of hers. She has placed him as an Old King in Acceptance, Power Mode. He zooms into class.

THIS IS A THIRD LEVEL OLD KING, YES, BUT NOT IN THE POWER MODE; IN THE MOVING PART OF EMOTIONAL CENTER, IN ACCEPTANCE, AN IDEALIST IN THE PASSION MODE, MOSTLY MERCURIAL, SOME LUNAR, BUT NOT MUCH MODIFICATION HERE; MOSTLY MERCURIAL, WITH A CHIEF FEATURE OF ARROGANCE, WITH MUCH VANITY, IN PART CULTURALLY INDUCED; COULD BE A SEEKER IF HE DESIRES. THE KING OFTEN GIVES THE ILLUSION OF POWER MODE, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOUNG. IF THIS KING WAS IN THE POWER MODE HE PROBABLY WOULD HAVE GONE TO CYPRUS INSTEAD OF HERE.

_____ asked if he was a Fragment of her Entity.

NO, BUT YOU HAVE BEEN IN A SEQUENCE WITH HIM BEFORE; NOT THIS TIME, JUST OLD FRIENDS, RECOGNIZING EACH OTHER.

_____ asked if the student was bothered by the recognition.

YES, BECAUSE HE CANNOT LOGICALLY EXPLAIN THE FEELING, EXCEPT AS WE STATED EARLIER, OTHER THAN SEXUALLY.

_______’s soul level needed verification.

WE UNDERSTAND THE CONFLICTS HERE, BUT WE FIND NO QUARREL WITH THIS LEVEL. YOU HAVE LIVED A TOTAL OF TWENTY-FIVE TIMES ON THE PHYSICAL PLANE, AND THE PERCEPTIONS YOU ARE NOW EXPERIENCING ARE THOSE OF THE MIDPOINT OF THE MATURE SOUL. YOU, IN PARTICULAR, HOWEVER, HAVE A GOOD CHOICE OF OVERLEAVES, NOT LEADING TO THE TEMPESTUOUS CONFLICTS OF MATURE SOULS IN HARSH OVERLEAVES.

______ asked for verification of an SRG on a friend, ______. She thought First or Second Level Old Priest in Growth, Arrogance or vanity, Idealist, Observation Mode, a Spiritualist, Mercurial / Saturn or Venusian / Lunar, Intellectual part of Emotional Center or Emotional part of Moving Center.

THIS IS A FIRST LEVEL OLD PRIEST IN GROWTH, MOSTLY MERCURIAL BUT SOME JOVIAL — THIS PRODUCES THE CHALLENGE — IN THE INTELLECTUAL PART OF EMOTIONAL CENTER, A SPIRITUALIST IN THE OBSERVATION MODE, WITH A CHIEF FEATURE OF ARROGANCE, VERY MUCH SUBDUED.

What is the SRG on ______: Third Level Mature Priest, in Caution, Spiritualist, in Growth, Lunar / Venusian or Lunar / Saturn, Moving part of Intellectual Center or Emotional part of Moving Center?

THIS LADY IS A SECOND LEVEL MATURE PRIEST IN ACCEPTANCE, IN THE EMOTIONAL PART OF MOVING CENTER, AN IDEALIST WITH NO CHIEF FEATURE MANIFEST; IN THE CAUTION MODE, MOSTLY LUNAR, SOME VENUSIAN, BUT YOU ARE RIGHT, NOT MUCH.

_______ asked for verification of Bodytype. He had been told Solar / Lunar by someone, and after discussion the group thought he was Jovial / Mercury.

WE WOULD AGREE WITH MOSTLY JOVIAL, SOME MERCURIAL. IF THIS MAN WAS [identified as] LUNAR THEN THERE WAS AN ERROR, BUT ALERT STUDENTS CAUGHT IT THEN, AS THIS BODY SHOWS NO LUNAR INFLUENCE.

______ asked for an SRG verification on her son _____: Scholar or King in Power, Intellectual Center, Saturn or Lunar / Mercury?

THIS LITTLE ONE IS A SIXTH LEVEL MATURE KING IN THE CAUTION MODE, IN DOMINANCE, IN THE MOVING PART OF INTELLECTUAL CENTER USUALLY, THOUGH BECAUSE HE IS SO YOUNG, HE STILL FLUCTUATES HERE AND COULD EASILY BECOME TRAPPED IN THE INTELLECTUAL PART OF EMOTIONAL CENTER; A STOIC, MOSTLY LUNAR, SOME MERCURIAL.

_____ asked if she was ever _____, a friend of Brahms.

NO. THIS IS NOT A VERY OLD NAME. IN THE RECENT PAST YOU WERE FRENCH; PRIOR TO THAT, YUGOSLAVIAN.

______ asked for a SRG verification: Sixth Level Mature Scholar in Growth, an Idealist, Jovial / Mars, Observation, Moving part of Emotional Center, Passion Mode, or Power subdued?

THIS IS A SIXTH LEVEL MATURE SCHOLAR, MOSTLY SATURN, SOME MARS, A SPIRITUALIST. ALL ELSE IS VALID.

With a Chief Feature of Self-deprecation?

WE WOULD AGREE WITH SELF-DEPRECATION.

______ asked about his attraction to healing. Is there a connection?

WELL, THIS “CONNECTION” CAN SUCCESSFULLY BE MADE BY MANY OF THE STUDENTS, BUT YOU DO HAVE MORE AFFINITY FOR IT. YOU HAVE A DEEP GREEN AURA, WHICH WOULD INDICATE SUCCESS IN THIS AREA TO US. THE ESSENCE UNDERSTANDS THIS AND THEREFORE THE DESIRE.

Are ______ and _____ Essence Twins?

THAT IS VALID.

______ asked for information on past three lives: is there any connection to anyone in the group? He feels an affinity for some.

IN THE IMMEDIATE PAST YOU WERE A LIBRARIAN IN LONDON; PRIOR TO THAT A TEACHER IN BARCELONA; PRIOR TO THAT A MERCHANT IN DUBROVNIK. YOUR AFFINITY WITH MEMBERS IN THIS CADRE STEMS FROM SEVERAL LIVES, ONE IN WHICH YOU WERE AN OCCULT TEACHER, AND IN THE LIFE AT THE TURN OF THIS ERA, DURING WHICH YOU WERE A GREEK PHYSICIAN IN THE SERVICE OF AN INFLUENTIAL ROMAN FAMILY. THE MAN _____ IS A FRAGMENT OF YOUR ORIGINAL ENTITY, WHICH CAUSED RECOGNITION.

_____ asked if she and _____ knew _____ in Dubrovnik.

YES, YOU DID KNOW HIM THEN.

_____ asked if she was there too.

YES, YOU WERE, _____. YOU WERE TEACHING IN A CONVENT SCHOOL — MUSIC.

_____ asked if she were there.

YES. IT IS UNUSUAL FOR ESSENCE TWINS NOT TO APPEAR ON THE PHYSICAL PLANE TOGETHER, ALTHOUGH MANY SCHOLARS DO SABOTAGE ATTEMPTS TO MOVE TOWARD THEIR TWINS.

_____ asked if Essence Twins are usually born in the same locale.

NOT ALWAYS. SOME MUST TRAVEL MANY MILES AND SPEND MANY YEARS SEARCHING.

_____ asked if Fragments of his Entity are at his work.

YOU ARE IN SEQUENCES WITH SEVERAL FRAGMENTS OF YOUR ENTITY, YES. YOU WILL MEET WITH THEM. ONE WILL PROBABLY BECOME A STUDENT. THERE IS NO SEQUENCE WITH THE MAN _____. HE ALSO SPENT A LONG INTERVAL ON THE ASTRAL PLANE ATTEMPTING TO BURN KARMIC RIBBONS IN THAT WAY, BUT WAS LARGELY UNSUCCESSFUL, WHICH ACCOUNTS FOR SOME OF THE CHOICES MADE IN THIS LIFETIME.

How do we burn ribbons on the astral plane? Was Tomas on the astral plane burning ribbons? Is it easier that way?

IT IS LESS PAINFUL IN A PHYSICAL SENSE, BUT THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT IT IS PAIN-FREE. IT TAKES MUCH LONGER TO ACCOMPLISH ANYTHING THIS WAY, AS ALL [that] CAN BE OFFERED IS GUIDANCE TO THOSE WHO ARE ON THE PHYSICAL PLANE AND TO WHOM THE DEBT IS OWED. IT INVOLVES PATIENT MONITORING AND THE ESTABLISHMENT OF RAPPORT THROUGH THE BARRIERS OF THE PLANES. WE WOULD DISCUSS THIS WHEN THE ENERGY LEVEL IS BETTER. THERE IS MUCH SCATTERING NOW, AND TRANSMISSION IS DIFFICULT.

 

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