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 May 8, 1974



Present: ET, JH and JH, NA, L, SM, CH and AH and RH, CC and NC, SC and RC, CS.

Someone had a question regarding Uri Geller and Andrijah Puharich’s contact with a being from “Hoova” (from an article in June, 1974 Psychic Magazine).

THE MAN YURI HAS THE CAPABILITIES TO RECEIVE MANY TIMES OVER. HE ALSO HAS THE ENTHUSIASM THAT AT TIMES COMPLETELY FOGS THE PERFORMANCE. THIS GALAXY IS DENSELY POPULATED ENOUGH. YES, WE WOULD SAY THE INFORMATION BEING RECEIVED IS FOR THE MOST PART VALID. THIS IS NOT UNUSUAL. WE WOULD SAY SEVERAL OTHERS ALSO HAVE THIS CAPABILITY. WHENEVER A TEACHING BEGINS TO TAKE ON A STRONGLY MORALISTIC FLAVOR YOU CAN BEGIN TO DOUBT ITS SOURCE. THE UNIVERSE IS COMPLETELY AMORAL AND [non]JUDGEMENTAL. THE INFORMATION BEING RECEIVED BY THE MAN YURI IS OF THIS LATTER TYPE.

What does the comment about the “populated galaxy” mean?

WE ARE NOT AWARE OF CROSSOVERS BETWEEN THIS GALAXY AND OTHERS. THE INTERGALACTIC MEDIUM HAS NOT BEEN PENETRATED IN THIS AREA — NOT BECAUSE IT IS NOT POSSIBLE; SIMPLY BECAUSE IT IS NOT TRULY DESIRABLE. CONTACT WITH CREATURES OF REASON FROM OTHER GALAXIES IS OF COURSE POSSIBLE ON THE ASTRAL PLANE.

How do they erase the [audio] tapes? (Apparently the being from Hoova makes the tapes disappear, according to the article.)

TELEPORTATION IS A SKILL MASTERED BY MANY ADEPTS. THIS IS NOT BEYOND MANY ON YOUR WORLD. THE MAN YURI IS ABLE TO DO THIS WITHOUT UNDERSTANDING WHAT IT IS THAT HE IS DOING, WHICH ACCOUNTS FOR HIS SOMEWHAT ERRATIC PERFORMANCES. HE ALSO HAS ENORMOUS RESERVES OF ENERGY AVAILABLE AND IS RELATIVELY UNFETTERED BY THE USUAL MAYA; IN FACT, [he] IS RATHER SIMPLISTIC.

Why does Michael spell Uri Geller’s name ”Yuri”?

OFTEN WE “SPELL” AS THE WORDS SOUND.

CC asked a question about naming the town in Oregon after Indian words. The name picked out was said to be inappropriate because the town could not live up to the name: “I stand here” was the meaning.

MOST AMERICAN INDIAN TRIBES DID HAVE AN ORIENTATION WORD SUCH AS THIS, BUT IT USUALLY MEANT ALSO “MY TERRITORY”. EACH TRIBE HAS ITS OWN SPECIAL DIALECT, AND THERE WAS MUCH INTERTRIBAL MISUNDERSTANDING OVER TERRITORIAL WORDS SUCH AS THIS. IF YOU ARE SEARCHING FOR AN APPROPRIATE NAME FOR YOUR VENTURE, WE WOULD SUGGEST SOME OF THE OTHER INDIAN WORDS MEANING “LAND WHICH WAS BLEST” OR “PROMISED” TO THEM. SOME OF THESE ARE QUITE BEAUTIFUL. AGAIN, THE TRIBES HAD MANY WORDS. THE SIOUX AND THE APACHE TRIBES WERE MORE VERBAL, AND THIS WOULD BE A GOOD PLACE TO START, TO SEE WHICH ONE FITS.

RH had a question regarding William J. Bryant, who is an M.D., has a PhD, is an attorney and a minister, who runs a course in hypnotism used in medicine, and has an apparently high cure rate with this method of treatment. It was RH’s opinion that he was either a great showman, or that he had a great gift. Bryant was thought to be a Mars-Jupiter, Sage in Dominance, Vanity, Power Mode, Impatience. RH thought another man there, Walt Dawson, to be a Slave, intermediate role, who RH didn’t think would be able to use the cures because of his Overleaves. Also RH wanted to know if he should take the course (it is quite expensive) and if he could use this method of treatment usefully.

THIS MAN HAS FOUND A SYSTEM THAT WORKS, YES. RESPONSE TO FLAMBOYANCE OF THIS TYPE IS QUITE HIGH, SURPRISINGLY. PEOPLE ARE EXPOSED TO A PERSONALITY SUCH AS THIS AND FIND IT HARD TO RESIST HIS INSISTENCE THAT THEY BE WELL. THIS IS THE MOST DISARMING QUALITY IN THIS MAN’S BAG. HE IS ALMOST COMPLETELY WELL, WHICH IN THIS CULTURE IS MOST UNUSUAL. HE IS TREMENDOUSLY HEALTHY. YES, YOU ARE RIGHT ABOUT THE OVERLEAVES, BUT HE IS IN ERROR ON THE INCARNATION. (Note: RH made the statement that the man thinks he is William Jennings Bryan reincarnated). PSYCHOLOGICALLY HE IS HEALTHY. YES, WE WOULD RECOMMEND THAT ONE LEARN THIS APPROACH — LEARN IT FROM A POSITIVE SPACE — AND THAT WOULD INVOLVE WORKING THROUGH ONE’S OWN CONFLICTS. THIS IS THE PRIMARY REASON FOR SO MANY CONVENTIONAL PSYCHIATRIC FAILURES. THE THERAPIST MUST BE WELL BEFORE HE CAN HEAL. WE WOULD THINK THAT IT WOULD BE USEFUL TO YOU.

RH discussed a machine Bryant has that is a photomachine, like a stroboscope, which puts people into hypnosis quite rapidly. They watch lines like brain waves (which are rapid and they just see a flash) and go under hypnosis, and then can be cured rapidly. Is this a valuable machine for the group to use?

WE WOULD CONSIDER SUCH AN EXPERIMENT AS EXTREMELY GOOD WORK FOR THIS GROUP. WHETHER OR NOT IT IS ONE HUNDRED PERCENT EFFECTIVE WILL AGAIN DEPEND UPON YOU, BUT THIS IS A QUITE FOOL PROOF METHOD.

Could we adjust the machine to put a person into theta brain waves (it puts people into delta now) and be of more help that way?

ANY COMPETENT ELECTRONICS TECHNICIAN COULD ALTER A MACHINE TO PRODUCE THIS FREQUENCY, AND YES, FOR THE MOST PART IT WOULD PRODUCE EXTRAORDINARY IMAGERY.

What is the point of imagery, a learning process?

THAT IS ONE, CERTAINLY, BUT THIS PROCESS ALSO OPENS THE DOOR TO HEIGHTENED [past life] MEMORY EXPERIENCE.

Is it helpful to use this as a rule? Or is it a crutch?

YES, BUT SOONER OR LATER YOU MAY DISCARD THIS CRUTCH.

Are you more vulnerable under this?

JUDGING BY YOUR DEFINITION OF VULNERABILITY, WE WOULD SAY NO. [Michael often means “vulnerable” to guidance from essence when they use that word.]

Would hypnosis of the group during meetings be helpful?

WE FEEL THAT ANY SERIOUS MOVE TOWARD OPENING THIS DOOR IS GOOD WORK, BUT STEER CLEAR OF PARLOR GAMES.

Can Thomas manifest if the energy is high enough?

ASTRAL BEINGS CAN MATERIALIZE IF THE ENERGY CONCENTRATION IS GOOD.

But Michael can’t manifest?

NO, WE CANNOT DO THIS. WE CAN INHABIT THE PHYSICAL BODY, BUT THIS IS AN ALTOGETHER DIFFERENT PROCESS.

What could we do with the whole group under hypnosis that we can’t do without it?

THEORETICALLY YOU COULD WORK TO THE POINT WHERE YOU COULD LISTEN TO US WITHOUT THE INTERFERENCE OF A MEDIUM.

What about group use of marijuana during a meeting? Would we learn anything or just have a good time being high?

SEVERAL OF YOU WOULD FIND THIS VALUABLE, YES. YOU WOULD CONCEIVABLY ALSO HAVE A GOOD TIME

JH had some tools stolen from his car. He knows the theory of creating events and wanted to know if he created this because he needed something, or would learn something from it.

THE PHYSICAL SITUATION IS CREATED BY THE ATTITUDE, YES.

JH made the statement that if he was paranoid he would put the tools in the garage every night.

IF YOU WISH THEM TO BE STOLEN YOU WOULDN’T.

Comment on psychological reasons or effects of the rip-off.

THE MAN J.H. ENJOYS BEING HIS OWN BOSS. BEING A CARPENTER IS NOT SO MUCH A PROBLEM AS BEING UNDER THE CONSTANT DIRECTION OF OTHERS. ALSO, THIS MAN WORKS FAR BETTER AS A SOLITARY ENTITY; BUT AREN’T YOU JUST A LITTLE BIT LEERY ABOUT BEING OUT ALL BY YOURSELF, AND DON’T YOU SPEND A GREAT DEAL OF TIME WITH THIS FANTASY, ONLY TO REJECT IT AS IMPRACTICAL?

Maybe we could have a therapy place where some of us would treat troubled people by hypnosis.

I wonder if we perceive the synthesis while under hypnosis.

Once we realize we can change, how do we know when that is?

USUALLY THE MATURE SOUL AT THAT POINT SEEKS THERAPY. WHETHER THIS IS EFFECTIVE DEPENDS UPON THE SKILL OF THE THERAPIST. THE SAME GOES FOR THE SKILL OF THE TEACHER IN THE SCHOOL, SUCH AS THIS. WE BELIEVE THAT IT IS CERTAINLY WORTH EXPLORING; DISCUSSING WHERE THE OTHERS FIT IN WOULD HELP; ALL COULD MAKE A CONTRIBUTION. SUCH A MOVE IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION COULD BE A TREMENDOUS STRIDE TOWARD GROWTH IF THE SPACE WAS POSITIVE AND THE MANIFESTATION DID NOT INVOLVE UNREALISTIC FANTASY.

CC seems to be becoming more materialistic. Is this true? He used to be altruistic. Then what?

WE SEE NOT SO MUCH CHANGE IN HIM AS WE SEE THAT HE HAS RECEIVED MUCH PRACTICAL REALISTIC ADVICE FROM SOME PRACTICAL REALISTS WHO KNOW THAT MONEY IS NECESSARY TO BEGIN SUCH A VENTURE. AND, WHILE THE SHOESTRING THEORY IS ROMANTIC, IT SELDOM WORKS. WE PRESENT THIS WITH TONGUE IN CHEEK. DON’T FEEL THAT WE NECESSARILY CONDONE THIS TYPE OF HARDENED REALISM. WE FEEL THAT THE QUESTION OF WHETHER THERE HAS BEEN A CHANGE IN C.C. WAS ANSWERED. IN ANSWER TO THAT NEW QUESTION WE HAVE SEEN SIMILAR VENTURES SUCCEED WITHOUT THE INITIAL FUNDS, BUT WITH MUCH FERVOR.

Should we slow him down?

WE WOULD NOT THINK IT INAPPROPRIATE.

What is CC’s Mode? (Passion?) Is he Emotionally Centered?

MUCH ARROGANCE, AND YES, A POWER MODE.

ET discussed coming across a new concept in two different places — one, through William Bucke’s book, Cosmic Consciousness; also in the Book of Auras; and Edgar Cayce — that man’s ability to see certain colors, such as blue, is a recent development — it could not be seen in ancient history.

COLOR PERCEPTION, AS ALL OTHER PERCEPTIONS, IS A PART OF THE NORMAL PATTERN OF EVOLUTION; THAT IS VALID, YES. WE WOULD PLACE PERCEPTION OF SHADES OF THE PRIMARY COLORS FURTHER BACK IN HISTORY, THOUGH, AND THE SECOND[ary] COLORS LATER. AT THE TIME OF PERICLES, ONLY VIVID SHADES OF GREEN COULD BE PERCEIVED AS A SEPARATE SHADE.

SC asked if seeing or perception is an indication of spiritual growth..

THAT ADAPTATIONS OF THE MACHINE ARE DICTATED BY THE NEEDS OF THE PSYCHOSPIRITUAL APPARATUS . THIS WILL BE DIFFICULT FOR YOU TO VERIFY, R.H., SINCE YOU ARE NOW ABLE TO PERCEIVE BLUE. HOWEVER, THE WORK WITH HYPNOSIS MAY EXPAND YOUR PERCEPTION SOMEWHAT.

RH made the statement that he had considered physical evolution to be finished now, or that it was going backwards. Is it?

DEFINITELY THE ADAPTATIONS CONTINUE. IF YOU WISH TO VERIFY THIS, PIT YOUR OWN STAMINA AGAINST THAT OF SOME HISTORICAL CHARACTERS WHO WALKED THOUSANDS OF MILES OVER MOUNTAINS AND DESERTS IN THE NORMAL COURSE OF LIFE AND GREW STRONGER FROM THE EXPERIENCE.

Someone had a question regarding adaptation to environmental pollution.

THE PSYCHOSPIRITUAL APPARATUS DICTATES THE ADAPTATIONS. THEREFORE NOT ALL WILL ADAPT IN THE SAME FASHION. THE ABORIGINES OF AUSTRALIA ARE AN EXCELLENT EXAMPLE. (of not adapting in the same fashion.)

JH had a comment about a class she took in coloring.

NA: Do Overleaves determine coloring? Or is there a color category that describes the personality?

BOTH OF THESE ARE VALID. THE AURAS DO CHANGE, BUT USUALLY IT IS NOT A PERMANENT CHANGE, N.A. THEREFORE YOU WOULD NOT NOTICE THE CLASHING FOR LONG ENOUGH TO BOTHER YOUR PERCEPTIONS, BUT IT IS VALID TO SAY THAT CERTAIN COLORS DO CLASH WITH THE AURA.

We then questioned concerning of auras of people in the group.

RH?

RIGHT NOW A BLUISH-GRAY.

ET?

BLUE-GREEN.

PJ?

BLUISH-VIOLET.

CS?

ALSO BLUISH-GREEN.

NA?

ALMOST A TURQUOISE.

CH?

BRIGHT BLUE. NO ONE IN THE ROOM HAS AN UNHEALTHY AURA SHOWING SIGNS OF SERIOUS PHYSICAL ILLNESS. THESE TEND TOWARD DEEP GRAYS AND DARK BROWN INTO BLACK.

RC?

GREENISH-YELLOW; MORE VIVID.

SM?

YELLOW-ORANGE; S.C. ALSO.

JH?

PINKISH-RED.

AH?

MORE BLUE THAN GRAY.

JH?

MORE GREEN THAN BLUE.

What are the aura’s significance?

YOU ARE MORE AT PEACE IN AN ENVIRONMENT THAT IS ESTHETICALLY PLEASING TO YOU. WITH THIS TOOL YOU CAN SOMETIMES CREATE SUCH AN ENVIRONMENT. THE AURAS DO MAKE A STATEMENT ABOUT THE ORIENTATION OF THE INDIVIDUAL FRAGMENT, YES. PREDOMINANTLY SPIRITUALLY ORIENTED SOULS TEND TO SHOW THE BRIGHTEST BLUES. THE VIVID COLORS USUALLY EMANATE FROM DYNAMISM.

What about yellow?

THIS IN YOU INDICATES YOUR DRIVE AND COMES FROM DYNAMISM.

What about red?

THIS EMANATES FROM THE EMOTIONAL CENTER.

PJ: What about violet?

THIS IN YOU INDICATES THE DRIVE TO FEEL THAT WHICH IS SPIRITUAL WITHIN YOU.

Can it change to another color.

YES. THE REDS ARE EMOTIONAL COLORS, YES. VIOLET SUGGESTS WORK.

CS: I am supposed to be in a Passion Mode and yet I am blue-green?

YOU DO HAVE MANY MODIFYING OVERLEAVES.

Does gray indicate Repression?

YES. GRAY HAS. IT IS NOT UNUSUAL FOR INTELLECTUALLY CENTERED STOICS TO SHOW PREDOMINANT GRAY. SOME ARE MUCH MORE PREDOMINANT THAN YOU. YOU ARE SHOWING MUCH MORE BLUE THAN GRAY. WE SIMPLY SAID THAT IT IS NOT UNUSUAL. N.A., YOU DO HAVE SOME VERY BRIGHT OVERLEAVES.

Chakras within auras?

THIS IS ANOTHER PERCEPTION. THAT IS OF THE SUBTLE CHANGES IN THE WAVELENGTHS OF DIFFERENT ENERGY SOURCES.

Why do I, a Spiritualist, have a red aura?

THIS WHOLE LINE OF QUESTIONING SHOULD PROVE MOST FRUITFUL IN ALLOWING YOU TO FLASH ON THE GREAT DIFFERENCES. THE VARIOUS COMBINATIONS OF OVERLEAVES MODIFY THE SOUL. THE VARIOUS COMBINATIONS MELD TOGETHER AND PRODUCE THE TOTAL PACKAGE. THE SPIRITUALIST PRIEST IN GROWTH IS, FOR INSTANCE, USUALLY IN THE BLUISH DEEP COLOR RANGE, GOING TOWARD THE REDS. THIS IS MODIFIED BY THE PASSION MODE, AND WILL OFTEN DEEPEN THE AURA TO A DARK RED OR EVEN A BLUISH-RED.

What about yellow-orange?

PRIMARILY DYNAMIC OVERLEAVES PRODUCE VIVID, BRIGHT COLORS.

OUR COMMENT WOULD BE THAT SOME OF YOU WILL WISH TO TEACH THIS, OF COURSE, BUT THERE ARE OTHERS, WHO, BECAUSE OF THEIR OVERLEAVES, WILL NOT BE PREPARED TO TEACH THIS LIFETIME. THE REALITY OF BECOMING A TEACHER DOES NOT NECESSARILY ALWAYS IMPLY A BREAK WITH FORMER STUDENTS — ONLY PERSONALITY DICTATES THIS.



 

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