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 May 30, 1974



Present: MJ, SM, JH and JH, RC and SC, CC, BW (first time), ET, PJ, RH and AH.

I find it hard to believe that whales are incarnated. Why has there not been contact between the whales and us, and are the whales aware that we are incarnated?

EXCEPT FOR THE MAN JOHN (Lilly), THERE HAS BEEN INSUFFICIENT INTEREST IN WHETHER THEY CAN COMMUNICATE. HOWEVER, THERE ARE MANY [people] INTERESTED IN THE FACT THAT THEY CAN BE TAUGHT TO PERFORM ACTS OF UNDERWATER DEMOLITION: STANDS TO REASON, DOES IT NOT. NUMBER TWO: THEY ARE AWARE ONLY OF THE FACT THAT THERE IS INTELLIGENCE IN HUMANS THAT REACHES BEYOND THE OTHER DENIZENS OF THEIR HOME WORLD.

How evolved are they in relation to us? Do they have access to higher sex center?

BECAUSE THEY ARE LIMITED IN THEIR ABILITY TO MANIPULATE THEIR ENVIRONMENT, THEY ARE NOT QUITE AS ANXIOUS TO BECOME COMPETITIVE, BUT THEY HAVE BEEN AROUND AS LONG AS YOU HAVE AND THEIR EVOLUTION IS JUST ABOUT EVEN WITH YOURS, EMOTIONALLY AND SPIRITUALLY. IT IS, OF COURSE, NOT AS CLUTTERED WITH MAYA WHERE THEY ARE AND THEY CAN OFTEN CONTACT ESSENCE EARLIER THAN HUMANS CAN, BUT THEY DO NOT ALWAYS DO SO. SOME ARE SEXUALLY EVOLVED; SOME ARE NOT,

The crucial thing here is the question, is it desirable to establish communication with them. Is there any cosmic reason to share with them?

COMMUNICATION IS, OF COURSE, POSSIBLE. UNDERWATER SONAR EQUIPMENT WOULD BE NECESSARY — SOME REFINEMENTS, OF COURSE, ON PRESENT EQUIPMENT. ABOVE WATER SOUNDS ARE REPRODUCED QUITE EFFECTIVELY. THEIR EYESIGHT IS EXTREMELY POOR AND THEY DO NOT RELY ON VISUAL CONTACT IN THE WAY YOU DO. ASTRAL CONTACT IS ALSO POSSIBLE.

If whales are as far along as we are there must be only a few whale adepts.

THAT IS VALID. THERE ARE NOT MANY.

Is astral communication on the basis of thought patterns?

YES.

Is there anything to Elaine Morgan’s hypothesis, presented in her book, Descent of Woman, that we humans lived on earth until there was a drought, then descended to the sea?

THAT IS NOT VALID. THIS SPECIES HAS ALWAYS LIVED ON LAND.

Comment: We were told that Darwin’s theory is not valid.

HUMANOIDS SPRUNG FROM A COMMON STOCK WHICH ALSO GAVE BIRTH TO THE ARBOREAL [tree-dwelling] APES.

(That is, we have similar ancestors to apes.)

What is SRGBTCFM of BW, the new person.

THIS LADY IS IN THE EMOTIONAL PART OF MOVING CENTER. SHE IS A FIRST LEVEL OLD ARTISAN IN ACCEPTANCE. YES, THE CHIEF FEATURE IS SELF-DEPRECATION, AND NO, IT IS NOT STRONG. THIS IS A SPIRITUALIST IN OBSERVATION; MOSTLY [under] THE INFLUENCE OF VENUS, SOME MERCURIAL. THE AURA IS A BLUISH-GREEN.

Could Michael comment on why it was that there were warm smiles exchanged between her and SM and MJ (both Warriors)?

SHE MADE MAPS FOR THE TROOPS AND HAS RETAINED THE MEMORIES OF THIS. SHE WAS THE FIRST TO LAY OUT A COMPREHENSIVE MAP OF THE COAST OF SPAIN.

BW: I did enjoy making maps as a child in grade school.

Is she a part of anyone’s Entity here in the group?

NOT NOW.

Has she been associated with any of us in the past?

NOT WITH THOSE IN THIS ROOM AT THE PRESENT TIME.

RH: I have not been able to recognize people from past lives. Is there anything Michael could say that would help in that respect?

THE RECOGNITION IS, OF COURSE, AN EMOTIONAL ONE. OFTEN, R.H., YOU MANAGE TO REPRESS QUITE EFFECTIVELY YOUR INITIAL IMPRESSION OF THE PEOPLE YOU MEET AND THIS EVENTUALLY RESULTS IN A LUKEWARM IMPRESSION OF THEM WHICH IS RELATIVELY FIXED. WHEN YOU MEET WITH THEM, ALLOW YOURSELF THE LUXURY OF EVEN A NEGATIVE INITIAL IMPRESSION, EVEN A STRONG NEGATIVE ONE, AND FOLLOW IT THROUGH. SOMETIMES IT DOES MEAN RECOLLECTION AND THIS WILL PRODUCE STRONG EMOTIONAL VIBRATIONS, AND IF THE OTHER [person] IS REASONABLY SELF-CONFIDENT, YOU WILL BE ABLE TO DETECT A LIKE RESPONSE IN THEM. IF THEY ARE SIMPLY OBNOXIOUS, YOU WILL ALSO SOON REALIZE THIS AND BE ABLE TO DIFFERENTIATE.

How about positive reactions?

YES. EVEN MORE SO.

Do people try to override negative impressions?

SM: I don’t like to make snap judgments. I don’t like to reject people right away. I want to give them a chance. I like to love people.

WE WOULD LIKE TO YOU CONTINUE TO LOVE THEM, BUT YOU MAY LOVE THEM AT A DISTANCE.

If she has a negative response, is it bad?

ALLOW YOURSELF THE LUXURY TO EXPERIENCE THE NEGATIVE FEELING, BUT YOU DON’T HAVE TO ACT ON IT.

(A side comment worthy of print: It’s like emotional Drano, or as another student said, the Roto Rooter in the sky.)

CC: When you know of a karmic ribbon and there is no possibility of burning it, what can one do?

IF IT IS SUFFICIENTLY BURNING, YOU WILL FIND A WAY TO BRING IT TO ITS RIGHTFUL CONCLUSION.

CC: I’ve tried to make contact with ST and she says, “No.” I do not know whether it is karma owed me, or karma I owe, or what.

THE KARMIC RIBBON STILL EXISTS.

CC: Could you clarify whether I am the debtor or the debtee?

C.C. IS THE DEBTOR. NATURALLY THE ONE TO WHOM THE DEBT IS OWED WILL HAVE MORE NEGATIVE EMOTIONS SURROUNDING THE PAYOFF. THE ONE WHO OWES WILL USUALLY SEEK QUIET SOLUTION WHILE THE ONE WHO IS OWED WILL CONTINUE TO DEMAND FIREWORKS LONG AFTER DAWN.

CC: Are there any other ribbons left for me to work out?

YES. YOU WILL FIND THAT YOU HAVE A RIBBON WITH ONE OF YOUR PROSPECTIVE NEIGHBORS.

Does it help to forgive those who owe us?

FORGIVENESS” IS A GRATUITOUS, EMPTY TERM. “FORGET”, YES, THAT IS VALID. REMEMBER, THEN LOOK AT IT AND THEN FORGET IT.

Does this help in having others forget the debts? This attitude would encourage those to forget their debts.

SOMETIMES IT DOES, ESPECIALLY IF THEY ARE ALSO IN CONTACT WITH A TEACHING OR IN A SUFFICIENT SPACE TO HEAR THE WORDS.

RH: What does ET owe [his wife] ST? It seems that it is out of his control to do anything.

AT THIS LEVEL AND AT THIS TIME, YES. THE LADY, S.T. HAS SEVERAL ALTERNATIVES: SHE MUST CHOOSE. WHEN IT BECOMES OBVIOUS THAT AN IMPASSE HAS BEEN REACHED, CEASE TO STRUGGLE AND MOVE ON.

SM: I would like some clarification on forgetting. How can you do this?

ET: It means not to sit and stew — an internal rumination and chewing over and over. Detachment is good.

On the strength of ST’s feelings that she could do acts of violence, would not this produce guilt in her? (The true sign of an ower . . . he never could steal.)

CC: This would be a reason for growth.

OFTEN, C.C., THIS IS TRUE. OFTEN ALSO, THOSE TO WHOM THE DEBT IS OWED HAVE CHOSEN GOALS SUCH AS REJECTION AND RETARDATION, WHICH WILL ALLOW THEM TO COLLECT.

MJ: I would like to know if the information that the mother of one of my patients in Retardation is correct: Baby Artisan in Dominance does not seem right. I feel she is a Mature soul and I do not feel the Dominance. I would also like to know if I have a Sequence with these people (mother, father, son).

YES. YOU AGREED TO AID THIS MAN IN UNDERSTANDING AT A DEEPER LEVEL. THE REASON YOU DO NOT FEEL THE ROLE AND LEVEL IS THE LADY IS IN THE REPRESSION MODE, AND HER MARTYRDOM.

MJ: This man feels he will kill someone. (He brought a gun to the hospital.) I told him the hatred he felt was for himself. Where does this violence come from?

THIS IS THE GUILT OF WHICH R.H. SPOKE EARLIER. THE GUILT, OF COURSE, ARISES FROM WISHFUL THINKING. THIS MAN IS ALSO RESPONDING TO HIS INNATE DRIVE TO BE DRAMATIC. YOUNG SAGES ARE MORE SO. THIS LADY IS UNABLE TO DEAL WITH HER OWN GUILT AND FRUSTRATIONS IN OTHER THAN A PEDANTIC WAY. IN OTHER WORDS, SHE APPREHENDS INFORMATION INTELLECTUALLY AND ACKNOWLEDGES THAT PSYCHIATRISTS “KNOW”, BUT BEYOND THAT THERE IS LITTLE TO WORK ON.

MJ: Do I have bad karma with A.N.? Why do I have such clashes with him?

THE FRICTION IS CAUSED BY CLASHING OVERLEAVES.

Why did the boy choose Retardation?

IN ORDER TO EXPERIENCE THIS DEPENDENCE.

BW: Does one have to look for a spiritual teacher?

IF YOU ARE READY FOR A TEACHER, YOU WILL FIND THAT TEACHER. IT MAY LOOK AS THOUGH YOU HAVE BEEN SEARCHING; YOU MAY CALL IT THAT IF YOU WISH. BY ALL MEANS, SEARCH. IF YOU DO FIND THAT TEACHING, IT WILL FEEL RIGHT AND YOU WILL KNOW IT.

BW: I felt I was not going to bother with groups any more, but I was curious about this one. What am I doing?

MUCH MORE LIKE DESIRING. THAT WOULD BE MORE CORRECT. PERHAPS YOU WOULD REVIEW OUR FEELINGS ON THE SOLITARY PATH. (It is a poor way to go; you need others to photograph; you cannot do it alone.)

CC: Last week I was distracted at the end of the meeting when people seemed angry with one another. I did not know what was going on. I would like a comment from Michael.

THE REACTIONS TO A GIVEN SITUATION IS YOURS ALONE TO DEAL WITH. IF YOU WISH TO VERBALIZE THIS, BY ALL MEANS DO SO, BUT DO NOT EXPECT THAT ALL WILL WISH TO VERBALIZE IT. YOU SHOULD NOT DWELL UPON THE OTHERS’ REACTION TO YOUR VERBALIZATION. IT IS THEIR CHOICE AND THEY MUST BE RESPONSIBLE FOR IT. IF R.H. CHOOSES TO BE PAINED BY WHAT E.T. THINKS, THIS IS HIS RIGHT. HOWEVER, WE MAY POINT OUT THAT E.T. DID NOT “CAUSE THE PAIN”.

CC: If we have a goal of agape, we should be able to use these situations to help us grow.

ONE OF THE FIRST STEPS, OF COURSE, IS THE REALIZATION THAT YOU ALONE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR REACTION TO THE SITUATION.

CC: Does my wanting to photograph have anything to do with my wanting to teach?

(At this point, there was a discussion of CC's feelings of lack of trust in last week's meeting, and various people told CC how they felt at that moment about her. CC felt that other people had received information in private meetings, and she had not felt that she wanted to impose on SC, as she had heard SC say she was tired, and now she felt there was not time to put all the questions she had to the board.)

WHAT IS HAPPENING HERE IS THAT AN EMOTIONALLY CENTERED SOUL IS LEAVING A FAMILIAR SITUATION FOR “GOD KNOWS WHAT” AND WISHES TO HAVE SOME CONFIRMATION OF HER PLACE IN THE SUN. THIS IS NOT OUT OF ORDER, BUT SHOULD BE RECOGNIZED FOR WHAT IT IS. WE RISK BEING FLIPPANT, AND WE REALIZE THAT, BUT THE PHOTOGRAPH IS VITAL.

CC expressed the fear of saying something and being rejected.

MJ then expresed how he did not feel connected with the group. She felt good about coming back after an absence of five weeks, but she felt there were no persons in the group to share her life with. She wished to make the teaching and her life one, and couldn't figure it out.

THIS LADY CHOOSES TO SEPARATE HERSELF OUT OF SHYNESS. SHE IS RELUCTANT TO BREAK INTO THE INNER CIRCLE, AND ONE OF THE REASONS IS THAT SHE IS STILL WONDERING IF THIS IS “THE TEACHING”. IT CAN BE, OF COURSE, BUT EVOLUTION IS A SOLITARY MATTER.

MJ: I like to go deep into personal life. When one of the members tells us he is “getting out of repression” through personal work, it means nothing to me: it tells me nothing about him. I would like to go deeper to share. (Much discussion followed.)

MJ then asked for a comment on her thesis and the teacher not agreeing with her.

THIS MAN HAS A STRONG FEELING THAT THE DICHOTOMY [between psychology and religion] SHOULD BE PRESERVED, YES, AND THE DIFFICULTY IS, OF COURSE, THAT HE CANNOT EFFECTIVELY SAY WHY. YOU, ON THE OTHER HAND, RECOGNIZE THAT THERE IS NO DICHOTOMY, AND YOUR SHYNESS PREVENTS YOU FROM PUTTING THIS INTO WORDS.

MJ: In many ways, he was obliged to keep these (psychology and religion) separate. On the surface, he couldn’t talk. He said that Joan D’Arc must have been a highly evolved soul. I’d say she was more a Young Priest in Martyrdom. May we have the SRG on Joan D’Arc?

THIS LADY WAS A MID CYCLE MATURE WARRIOR IN DOMINANCE WHO DEEPLY RESENTED BEING FEMALE, AND WAS WILLING TO DIE FOR HER INDIVIDUALITY. SHE HAD A STRONG CHIEF FEATURE OF HAUGHTINESS. HER MODE WAS PASSION. SHE WAS A SPIRITUALIST.

MJ: Is Joan D’Arc part of my Entity?

THAT IS VALID, BUT THIS FRAGMENT IS NOT NOW ON THE PHYSICAL PLAN.

CC: What is the SRGA of JM? She gets uptight quickly.

THIS LADY IS A SIXTH LEVEL BABY WARRIOR IN STAGNATION. HER CHIEF FEATURE IS NOT A POWERFUL OVERLEAF AND IS GREED. HER MODE IS CAUTION.

What about the SRG of EM?

THIS MAN IS A FIRST LEVEL OLD PRIEST IN ACCEPTANCE. HE IS MOSTLY LUNAR, SOME SATURN, IN THE EMOTIONAL PART OF INTELLECTUAL CENTER, YES. THE CHIEF FEATURE IS WEAK BUT IS MARTYRDOM. HE IS A SPIRITUALIST IN THE PASSION MODE.

Does he have a Sequence with MJ?

YOU HAVE NOT MET WITH THIS FRAGMENT BEFORE. KNOW THAT IT SOMETIMES OCCURS THAT YOU SIMPLY FEEL AT EASE WITH CERTAIN SOULS BECAUSE THE RELATIONSHIP IN NO WAY IS THREATENING AND THIS IS FULLY KNOWN AT THE OUTSET.

MJ: Yes. It’s playful, warm, and humorous.



 

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