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 March 20, 1974



resent: MJ, PJ, M (first time), A, SC and RC, RH and AH and CH, SM, JH, ET, BL, MM, NA, LS (first time).

What is the SRGA of CD — a Young soul Mercury, in Acceptance, an Idealist?

THIS SIXTH LEVEL YOUNG ARTISAN IS A SPIRITUALIST, NOT AN IDEALIST — ALL ELSE VALID; IN ARROGANCE, WITH A SUB FEATURE OF VANITY [elsewhere said to be the negative pole].

The group attempted M’s SRGA: late Level Mature or early Old soul in Acceptance, a Realist, an Artisan in Dominance or Growth, Mars-Venus; some said Jupiter, some said Jupiter-Lunar, and one said Jupiter with some Mars.

THE LADY, M, IS A SIXTH LEVEL MATURE PRIEST IN DOMINANCE WITH A CHIEF FEATURE OF IMPATIENCE. THIS LADY IS MOSTLY JOVIAL, SOME MARTIAL, A REALIST, IN THE INTELLECTUAL PART OF EMOTIONAL CENTER.

M: Knowing this has what significance to the group?

Comments: It helps explain behavior. We are more able to accept or allow unconditionally anyone with whom we come in contact. It is helping us work towards Agape.

M: I read the group’s book and would suggest a glossary would be most helpful, with definitions of such words as Maya, Monad, logos, and karma.

WE PROPOSE AN EXERCISE IN PSYCHIC PHOTOGRAPHY FOR ALL OF YOU AS FOLLOWS: BEGIN TO PHOTOGRAPH YOURSELVES REACTING TO SUGGESTIONS OF CHANGE WITH THE STATEMENT, “I CANNOT”. THEN REALIZE THAT THIS IS NOT TRUE. SOMETIMES THE TRUTH WILL BE THAT YOU DO NOT AT THE PRESENT MOMENT POSSESS THE REQUIRED SKILLS OR KNOWLEDGE, BUT MORE OFTEN THAN NOT, THE TRUTH WILL BE, “I DO NOT WANT TO”. THIS IS VITAL, AND A POSITIVE STEP ON THE PATH. YOU CAN HELP BY PHOTOGRAPHING EACH OTHER IN THIS. ALSO, ALL OF YOU ARE GUILTY OF USING THIS AS AN EXCUSE MANY TIMES A DAY TO SHIFT THE BLAME, AND THIS ACCOMPLISHES THAT NICELY. YOU PRESENT THEN THE PICTURE OF A STUDENT AT THE MERCY OF THE COSMOS, WHICH IS, OF COURSE, ABSURD. PERSONALITY SETS UP MANY BARRIERS ALONG THE [spiritual] PATH. THIS IS MERELY ONE OF THEM, AND CHIPPING AWAY AT THIS WILL ONLY RESULT IN THE UNCOVERING OF MANY MORE SIMILAR GUISES. THE GOAL OF THE ORGANISM IS, OF COURSE, SURVIVAL. SEXUALITY IS MADE MORE DIFFICULT BY CULTURALLY IMPOSED BARRIERS AND ARTIFICIAL CONDITIONS. THIS IS ANOTHER BARRIER. DENIAL OF THE PLEASURES OF EATING, SLEEPING, AND JUST BIDING YOUR TIME ON A PLEASANT, SUNNY DAY ARE MORE. THE PERSONALITY CAN COME UP WITH MANY EFFORTS TO RATIONALIZE WHY THESE PLEASURES SHOULD NOT BE EXPERIENCED: THEY ARE NOT GOOD FOR YOU; THEY COST TOO MUCH; THEY WASTE TOO MUCH TIME; THEY ARE NOT USEFUL; THEY ARE EVIL; ETCETERA.

AH: Are you sure that’s Michael?

WE ARE MOST INTERESTED IN THE FACT THAT SOME OF YOU FEEL THAT THIS DATA IS SOMEHOW DIFFERENT. WE WOULD ASK THAT YOU EXAMINE YOUR FEELINGS AROUND THIS. WE SENSE PRESSING QUESTIONS IN THE MINDS OF MANY, AND ARE MERELY ENDEAVORING TO PAVE THE WAY TO MORE OPEN EXPRESSION.

PJ: It seems there has been progress made in that we are not jumping subjects around so much.

THERE HAS BEEN SOME IMPROVEMENT, YES, BUT WE SEE MUCH SCATTERING IN THE AIMS OF THE VARIOUS SOULS INVOLVED IN THIS. WE WOULD STILL SEE SOME MORE COHESION, AND MUTUAL PURPOSE SHOULD ARISE THEN THAT SHOULD ELIMINATE THE SCATTERING.

ET: I see a purpose evolving in ST’s group; it has a therapeutic format, and takes an upset and the accumulated information [sic]. It takes into account karmic ribbons from past lives and how this has affected us and others. I would like to hear some feed back on how we are doing.

THESE SPECIFIC CONFLICTS ARE BEST HASHED OUT IN THE SMALL GROUPS, OR PREFERABLY ALONE, USING EITHER THE TECHNIQUES PRESENTED TO THE LADY, S.T., OR THE ALTERNATIVES SUGGESTED TO R.C. AND R.H.

An attempt was made to explain primary, secondary, and tertiary upsets, and how one must go back to the original upset. Those who have been through EST understand this, but were having difficulty explaining it to the rest.

THE BODY DOES NOT LIKE PAIN, OBVIOUSLY, AND WILL ERECT AS SWIFT A BARRIER AS POSSIBLE BETWEEN ITS RECEPTORS AND THE PAIN. IT IS SOMETIMES BY FAINTING, SOMETIMES BY MORE SUBTLE DENIAL.

MJ: Is our interest to deal with pain?

THAT IS VALID, AS THIS IS THE ONLY WAY THAT THE ESSENCE CAN EXPERIENCE PAIN — THAT IS, VICARIOUSLY. WE [who are non-physical] HAVE NOTHING ANALOGOUS TO PHYSICAL PAIN.

ET: If you experience out the pain, then you do not have all sorts of (psychological) crap to go through. Instead, you are ready for new experiences if you have experienced the pain at the time it happened.

MJ: It sounds like the only way would be to cultivate a way to leave the body.

ET: You would be running away.

A: I see a parallel to Rolfing. The theory behind that is, Rolfing unlocks the structures of muscles and the tightness caused by emotions and feelings when physical pain has been inflicted.

MJ: Would you treat the trapped part [of one’s Centering] first? Could treatments be recommended for specific Centers? For example, could I be Rolfed and then go to hypnosis?

THIS COMBINATION COULD BE EXTREMELY AFFECTIVE AS IT WOULD “KILL TWO BIRDS WITH ONE STONE”.

MJ: Is the order important?

WE WOULD TREAT THE TRAP IN YOUR CASE. WE SAY THIS SPECIFICALLY IN YOUR CASE BECAUSE OF THE DIFFICULTY ONE WOULD HAVE WITH TRANCE INDUCTIONS WITH THE NEED TO RELEASE SO MUCH STORED UP ANXIETIES. THIS WOULD NOT ALWAYS RUN TRUE. MOST OF THE TIME WE WOULD TREAT THE CENTER FIRST.

SM: What Center am I in? (The group came up with Intellectual part of Moving Center.)

WE HAVE NO QUARREL WITH THAT.

SM: I would like to ask about my husband, GM: what is his Center.

THE MAN, G.M., IS NOW TRAPPED IN THE EMOTIONAL PART OF INTELLECTUAL CENTER.

MM: Do I have any karmic ribbons or ties with my mother which may cause me to have negative feelings there?

NO, THIS IS NOT KARMA. IT IS SIMPLY A CASE OF SOME OF THE OVERLEAVES REPELLING EACH OTHER. THIS IS NOT AN UNUSUAL PHENOMENON. THIS LADY IS VERY DIFFERENT FROM YOU.

MM: I will agree to that. She is Dominant and into religion. She is ill — cardiac arrest, lung collapsed, toe amputated, diabetic.

THIS FIFTH LEVEL BABY WARRIOR IS IN DOMINANCE, WITH A CHIEF FEATURE OF ARROGANCE. SHE IS A SPIRITUALIST, TRAPPED IN THE MOVING PART OF EMOTIONAL CENTER, MOSTLY JOVIAL, SOME MARTIAL.

SC: What is the SRGA of Billie Graham? I would say Fifth Level Young Sage in Dominance and Arrogance. He’s either a Spiritualist or an Idealist.

THIS MAN IS A THIRD LEVEL YOUNG SAGE IN DOMINANCE, YES, WITH A CHIEF FEATURE OF ARROGANCE, BUT A SPIRITUALIST, AND YES, TRAPPED IN THE EMOTIONAL PART OF MOVING CENTER, A SOLAR-MARS.

RH: Solar makes it a prototype body with much energy.

M: I would like to ask my husband, R’s, level and so forth.

THIS IS A SECOND LEVEL MATURE SAGE IN SUBMISSION, A PRAGMATIST WITH A CHIEF FEATURE OF SELF-DEPRECATION.

M: Could Michael comment on the emotional triangle of R, A and me? What is going on?

SOME TESTING, OF COURSE, AS YOU ALREADY KNOW, BUT THERE IS ALSO A GENUINE ELEMENT OF SEARCHING OUT SOMEONE WHO CAN FILL IN THE EMOTIONAL GAPS. THE MAN BEING A PRAGMATIST IN SUBMISSION IS NOT AS EMOTIONALLY ACTIVE AS YOU WOULD LIKE; CERTAINLY IS NOT A FIREBRAND. THIS IS NOT UNUSUAL. THE WAY IT IS HANDLED ULTIMATELY IS THE IMPORTANT POINT. THIS COULD BE A GROWTH PROCESS FOR ALL THREE.

RH: What is A’s Goal and Chief Feature? (PJ and RH came up with Idealist in Acceptance and Chief Feature of Impatience, Jovial-Lunar, essence trapped in the Intellectual part of Intellectual and Emotional part of Intellectual.)

WE AGREE WITH R.H. AND P.J. EXCEPT FOR THE BODYTYPE, WHICH IS MOSTLY JOVIAL, SOME MARS.

PJ: Could you pursue this as to what it means for A to deal with the discomforts?

PRIMARILY THIS MEANS TO HIM THAT THERE IS EXCESSIVE SUBJECTIVE RATIONALIZATION MOST OF THE TIME SINCE THE MAN, A., SPENDS MOST OF THE TIME IN THE EMOTIONAL PART OF THE CENTER, THEN THERE ARE PERIODS OF INTENSE DETACHED RATIONALIZATION.

A: I would like to hear a comment on M’s and my relationship.

AT THE PRESENT TIME, WE FIND NO FAULT WITH THIS.

A: I would like to ask about a lady.

THIS LADY IS IN DOMINANCE WITH A CHIEF FEATURE OF GREED. THIS LADY IS A SPIRITUALIST, WHICH MITIGATES THIS SOME. (We established that the Greed was not material greed.) WE SEE MUCH POWER PLAYING HERE, AND A JOCKEYING FOR CONTROL. ALSO MUCH DENIAL. A MAN HERE SEES SERIOUS PHYSICAL ILLNESS, WHICH IS PROBABLE. MOST LIKE THIS DO EVENTUALLY SOMATIZE (convert psychological illness to physical illness). SHE IS A BABY SLAVE.

AH How does this Greed differ from Dominance?

SUBSTANTIALLY, WE WOULD SAY. THERE IS IN THE DOMINANT SOUL A DESIRE TO LEAD OR COMMAND RESPECT. IN THE GREEDY, THERE IS THE DESIRE TO ACCUMULATE OR ACQUIRE WHATEVER THE GREATEST NEED DICTATES, THE MOTTO BEING, “MORE, PLEASE”.

SC: Is TW in Greed?

WE SEE THAT, YES.

JH: Do I have any karmic things with ET or NA or JH?

YOU HAVE NO ADVERSE KARMIC RIBBONS WITH THE OTHERS HERE NOW, BUT MANY INTERWOVEN SEQUENCES, YES. YOU HAVE KNOWN E.T. MANY TIMES. WE HAVE TOLD YOU OF YOUR PREVIOUS ENCOUNTERS WITH THE LADY, N.A., ALSO WITH THE LADY, K. THE MOST RECENT TIME FOR YOU TO HAVE BEEN IN A SEQUENCE WITH E.T. WAS DURING THE EARLY PART OF THE THIRTEENTH CENTURY IN EUROPE.

JH: What was my occupation then?

YOU WERE ALSO AT THIS TIME A BUSINESS MAN, A BANKER.

ET: What was I?

DILETTANTE. HE WAS ALSO MALE THEN; ALSO FRENCH.

JH: Did I know [my husband] JH then?

YOU CERTAINLY DID HAVE DEALINGS. PART OF YOUR PRESENT FINANCIAL DILEMMA STEMS FROM THAT. WE WILL DISCUSS THIS WITH YOU BOTH.

PJ: Does NA have Fragments of her Entity here?

NOT AT THIS TIME.

BL: Do I have any Fragments here?

SOON.

JH: Will I meet Gaius soon?

YES.

AH: Do [my husband] RH and I have karmic ribbons?

NOT FINANCIAL.

AH: What then?

THE FINANCIAL PROBLEMS ARISE MOSTLY OUT OF THE SCRAPES FROM THE DIFFERING OVERLEAVES. MOSTLY THE TWO OF YOU AGREED TO PLAY OUT THIS SEQUENCE — THIS TO HELP YOU COMPLETE A MONAD WHEN YOU WERE BARREN. [This lifetime they had several children.]

AH: Have I been a mother before?

YES, MANY TIMES; A FATHER, ALSO.

AH: It sure didn’t seem like it when that first baby came. It took me ten minutes to change the diapers, and when I finally got the pins in right, they were wet again.



 

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