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 July 7, 1974



I would like to hear why my twin soul did not stop me and talk to me.

HOW WOULD YOU HAVE REACTED TO THE RECOGNITION AT THE MOMENT? THERE IS A TIME FOR EVERYTHING UNDER THE SUN. YOU HAVE HEARD THIS BEFORE (Proverbs).

I would like to ask if the group has a goal or aim in this life.

YES IT DOES: PRIMARILY ONE OF HEALING, BUT HEALING OF THE SOUL.

Does this mean acting out of essence instead of personality?

[It means the] FREEING OF THE SOUL. THE SOUL IN BONDAGE IS SICK — THERE IS NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.

I would like to ask again about the books, In Search of the Miraculous, and Man’s Possible Evolution [both by P.D.Ouspensky, a primary student of Gurdjieff]: are they worth the new students reading them? The “hydrogens” are allegorical. The energy is already there in the Centers, but there are many energy leaks.

WE WOULD NOT DISAGREE WITH THIS AS AN INTRODUCTION, PROVIDING THAT IT IS EXPLAINED CLEARLY THAT THERE IS INFORMATION TO WHICH YOU HAVE ACCESS THAT GOES BEYOND THAT WHICH IS CONTAINED IN THESE VOLUMES. FOR INSTANCE, THAT THERE ARE MANY MORE COMBINATIONS OF PLANETARY INFLUENCES, AND THAT THERE ARE MANY MORE ALLEGORIES TO BE INTERPRETED: ALSO, IT IS IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THE DIFFERENCES WHICH WE HAVE EXPLAINED TO YOU CONCERNING THE INTERNAL ENERGY CENTERS. WE WILL ALWAYS CORRECT ANY FALSE INTERPRETATIONS. WE WOULD THINK THAT A NEW SET OF CARICATURES DEPICTING THE ENERGY CENTERS, AS WE HAVE GIVEN THEM, WOULD BE IN ORDER NOW.

I would like to ask about my sense of loss from _____, the sadness and regret. My machine cannot “love", either, and the children interpret it as, “my father doesn’t loveme”. My personality is weeping over the personality not being able to let _____ know, “I loveher”. Are there previous Sequences I had with her?

SHE MUST LEARN HOW TO DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN THAT WHICH CANNOT LOVE AND THAT WHICH DOES LOVE, AND DEEPLY. SHE CANNOT NOW DO THIS. SHE IS ONLY NOW LEARNING THAT THERE ARE FEELINGS AT A DEEPER LEVEL THAT COMPEL HER INTO CERTAIN RELATIONSHIPS. ALSO SHE IS THE STUDENT OF ONE NOT YET MANIFESTED, AND HE STILL MUST LEARN THIS ALSO. THE COMMUNICATION OF THE LOVE BEYOND THE MECHANICAL PERSONALITY WOULD NOT FALL ON DEAF EARS. THIS KING HAS BEEN BELOVED TO ALL OF YOU FOR SO MANY CENTURIES THAT IT IS MORE DIFFICULT TO LOSE THE CONTACT NOW, EVEN THOUGH IT IS SO TEMPORARY. ALL OF YOU HAVE LOOKED TO HER SO MANY TIMES FOR WHAT SHE WAS ABLE TO GIVE, AND NOW DO NOT WISH TO BREAK THE THREAD. EVEN PERSONALITY GAINED BY THIS CONTACT, AND EVEN PERSONALITY IS RELUCTANT TO GIVE IT UP. THERE IS SUPPORT AND ENERGY EMANATING FROM THIS SOUL, AND IT WOULD BE UNUSUAL IF THOSE CLOSELY ASSOCIATED DID NOT FEEL THE LOSS.

I would like to ask about the pineal gland. I never quite believed the stories about the Third Eye in relation to the pineal. To me the hypothalamus is the link between the mind and the body for the biocomputer.

THIS IS, OF COURSE, A TREMENDOUS SOURCE OF RAW PRIMITIVE ENERGY WHICH ENABLES THE ORGANISM TO PRESERVE ITSELF. WE AGREE THAT IT SHOULD BE GIVEN MORE CREDENCE THAN IT HAS BEEN, AS AN IMPORTANT PIVOT IN THE STRUGGLE BETWEEN PERSONALITY AND ESSENCE.

Is my rootlessness and lack of ease due to subliminal knowledge of a karmic debt?

THAT IS NOT THE ONLY REASON FOR THE RESTLESSNESS. WITH YOU, R, IT IS A MAJOR SENSE OF PURPOSE THAT CAUSES THE RESTLESSNESS AT A SUBLIMINAL LEVEL, AND MANY TIMES AT A VERY CONSCIOUS LEVEL YOU FEEL YOUR TASK.

Do I have a karmic debt with _____?

WITH YOU, R., IT IS THE SENSE OF PURPOSE, AND NOT A DEBT. WITH OTHERS, IT IS A DEBT. WITH SOME, IT IS AN INCOMPLETE MONAD. ALL OF THESE THINGS COME INTO PLAY. DEBTS OF GREAT CONSEQUENCE ARE RARE IN OLD SOULS.

It was said before of someone that their ribbons were already burned, yet they continued to persist in the same old pattern. Am I doing this?

TO SOME EXTENT, YES, YOU ARE, AND IT IS NOT ONLY THE REPRESSION MODE, BUT TO A GREAT EXTENT, THE REALISM [the Realist Attitude] WHICH PERSISTS WHEN YOU COULD BEGIN TO LOOK AT SPIRITUALISM [the Spritualist Attitude]. THE REALISM ALLOWED YOU TO PAY THE DEBT.

I would like to ask if Michael thinks some property which I have seen near Franklin Canyon Road would be a good place for the group.

OUR ONLY TRUE OBJECTION WOULD BE THAT THE ENERGY IS NOTABLY LOWER THE FURTHER AWAY ONE GOES FROM THE VORTEXES.

RH: I would like to ask concerning a patient who had Parkinson’s Disease and advanced brain damage, if he still has a soul or if it has departed. It’s like there is nothing there. How could one tell?

WHEN THE SOUL DEPARTS FOR GOOD, THERE IS BODY DEATH SHORTLY THEREAFTER. IN THIS CASE, THE SOUL IS SPENDING INCREASINGLY LENGTHY PERIODS OUT OF THE FAILING BODY, AND MANY TIMES THERE IS NOTHING THERE BUT THE SHELL AND THE VERY SLENDER THREAD. WHEN YOU CAN USUALLY BE CERTAIN [the soul is absent] IS WHEN THE OVERLEAVES ARE NO LONGER APPARENT.

RH: I need a change of my Overleaves in order to have courage enough to look at strange people’s eyes as deeply as I need to, but rarely do. It seems that a Power Mode would be best for this, or Passion also.

MUCH OF THIS, AS HAS BEEN SAID, IS CULTURALLY INDUCED; BUT WE MUST ADMIT, THAT KINGS IN THE PASSION MODE AND OLD SAGES SEEM TO SKIRT THE CULTURE WELL. GOING FROM REPRESSION WILL BE DIFFICULT FOR YOU, R.H. WE KNOW THIS, AND WILL BE OF AS MUCH HELP AS WE CAN. OBSERVATION OFTEN ALSO ENABLES OTHER MORE TIMID SOULS TO LOOK UNFETTERED. THIS IS A LEARNED SKILL, AND WE WOULD THINK THAT IT WOULD BE GOOD WORK FOR YOU TO REGARD THIS AS YOUR PERSONAL TASK, AND, INCIDENTALLY, IT WOULD BE GOOD TO MOVE YOU OUT OF THAT PLACE YOU NO LONGER WISH TO INHABIT: ALSO, THE RELATIONSHIP WITH _____ IS A SEQUENCE THAT YOU AGREED UPON, AND ONE WHICH REQUIRES THAT YOU MOVE FROM YOUR PRESENT MODE IF YOU ARE TO SEE IT THROUGH.

RH: I would like to ask about a patient of Dr L’s, an attorney: Is he a Skeptic or a Cynic?

THIS MAN IS A CYNIC IN STAGNATION.

RH: Is Dr L a Priest in Acceptance, Saturnine, in the Emotional part of Intellectual Center, in Passion, with a Chief Feature of Martyrdom?

THAT IS VALID.

I want the SRG on a friend of my mother, Mrs _____. Is she a Jovial Sage in the Emotional Center, in Acceptance, Passion Mode and a Spiritualist?

SHE IS AN IDEALIST, NOT A SPIRITUALIST, BUT ALL ELSE [is valid].

I would like to ask about a TV personality I saw, an author of “The Oath” and “The Night”. Is he Mercury / Saturn, an Artisan, in the Passion Mode, with a Chief Feature of Self-deprecation? There seems to be a deep sense of personal unworth. He is a Polish Jew.

What is the SRG of _____, a friend of ______?

THIS YOUNGSTER IS A SIXTH LEVEL MATURE ARTISAN, YES, IN THE PASSION MODE, A STOIC, IN GROWTH, AND IN THE MOVING PART OF EMOTIONAL CENTER. HE IS MOSTLY UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF MARS, [with] SOME VENUS.

I would like to ask about the negative feelings I had for _____. Recently the perceptions have changed. I feel that _____ has had a profound spiritual experience. I feel close to him.

THE MAN _____ HAS HAD A PROFOUND EXPERIENCE, BUT WE WOULD CALL IT MORE REALIST THAN SPIRITUALIST, AND THE RESULT OF THIS HAS BEEN THAT HE HAS BECOME MORE REAL BY ALLOWING HIMSELF TO SHINE THROUGH. HE HAS CHANGED FROM ONE WHO ONLY LISTENS TO ONE WHO CAN NOW HEAR. BUT, _____, MUCH OF THE CHANGE OF WHICH YOU SPEAK IS WORK WITHIN YOURSELF IN AN EFFORT TO RID YOURSELF OF NEGATIVITY FOR WHICH THERE WAS NO REAL GROUNDS. SINCE THE MAN’S OVERLEAVES ARE DEFINITELY NOT IN CONFLICT [with yours], THIS SOFT SAGE SHOULD NOT RANKLE YOU.

_____: I would like to ask about the feelings I have of uptightness with _____. My perceptions are that half the time he is on the path, and the other half he is steeped it sex and false personality. I get mad at him and feel hostile because (to me) he is off the path. It bothers me, and I know it shouldn’t. Does it have to do with the “fact” that he is a Gemini (meaning he is turned on sexually to one person half the time and the other half to another person.) He gives _____ the impression he is on the [spiritual] way the most of all of us because he has read the latest “Hooptananda” and right-off-the-press “Rinpoosh” ._____: I feel his “conquests’’ are helping his growth. _____: I see him as a “very” warm person but not intrinsically intuitive. He has no hostile bones in his body. _____: I see a naiveté and a youthfulness about him. _____: I don’t see him any farther along the path than the rest. It may be that for him, he is better at separating from negativity, [whereas] ____ can meditate [better], [and] _____ can theorize better. We all agreed that _____ was the group’s Peter Pan. The topic then changed to a fear of _____.

THE LADY, ______, COULD AT ANY POINT USE HER FIERCE INNER TURMOIL AS A GROWTH-PRODUCING EXPERIENCE, BUT IT IS UNLIKELY. IN ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION, NO, THIS IS NOT NECESSARY, GIVEN YOUR OVERLEAVES: BUT, COMING FROM REJECTION IS ANOTHER STORY. THE LADY CANNOT DROP THIS AND IT WILL HOLD HER BACK. PHOTOGRAPH THE “POLLYANNA FEATURE” IN ALL OF THE GROUP MEMBERS IN ACCEPTANCE SOMETIME. IT WILL BE ENLIGHTENING AND GOOD WORK. WE HAVE FEW COMMENTS ON THE MAN, _____, BUT SEVERAL COME TO MIND ON THE GROUP IN GENERAL THROUGH THIS. FOR INSTANCE, WE HAVE TOLD YOU MANY TIMES THAT YOU NEED EACH OTHER, THIS BEING ONE OF THE REASONS EACH OF YOU MOVES IN OR ON A DIFFERENT VECTOR, AND EACH CAN OFFER THE OTHER VALUABLE INSIGHTS THROUGH CLOSE ASSOCIATION. TONIGHT WAS AN ENORMOUS STEP IN THE DIRECTION OF GROUP SOLIDARITY. THERE IS NOTHING IN THE MAN ______’S OVERLEAVES THAT MAKES HIM STAND APART, JUST THE COMBINATION [of Overleaves] AND HIS OWN STRIVING FOR BALANCE.



 

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