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brought up a list of possibilities for the
group which a smaller
group had discussed earlier in the week — he
had made a list up
from suggestions made by Michael. Does Michael
have any comment?
HAVE NO SPECIFIC COMMENTS, BUT NOTE THAT THERE
IS LESS ENTHUSIASM
THAN USUAL. PERHAPS THIS BEARS DISCUSSION OR
feel that being programmed makes me
uncomfortable. Spontaneous events
are more enjoyable. We’ve waited a year and a
half for spontaneity,
and there has been no activity.
INSIGHT THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE STUDENTS ARE
A VALID ONE. THERE IS GREAT DIFFICULTY IN
PLANNING AHEAD FOR
DIVERSION, BUT NOT FOR WORK. DOES THIS SUGGEST
AREAS THAT NEED
was offered a full time job, but is resisting
it. Michael said
earlier that Warriors were good at
administration; closer to
accepting a job as a waitress [sic].
DID NOT SAY THAT ADMINISTRATIVE POSITIONS WERE
THE ONLY COURSE OF
ACTION OPEN TO WARRIORS. MOST OLD AND MATURE
WARRIORS HAVE HAD THEIR
FILL OF THAT TYPE OF HUSTLE AND BUSTLE. WE
WOULD SAY, GIVE IT A TRY
IN THE RESTAURANT. THOSE JOBS ARE EASIER TO
LEAVE IF THEY PROVE NOT
THE RIGHT CHOICE.
to property at Lake Norena: five acres and a
house. Should the group
buy this for a school?
THE PRESENT TIME THIS WOULD BE ADEQUATE. IT
ALSO OFFERS THE ROOM FOR
EXPANSION. LATER YOU WILL NEED TO PLAN FOR
YOUNGSTERS INTO A RIGID SECONDARY ENVIRONMENT
WOULD BE THE ANTITHESIS
OF THE GROWTH ACHIEVED AT THE PRIMARY LEVEL.
another property — where is the man who owns
INDIVIDUAL NOW IN POSSESSION OF THIS PROPERTY
IS IN EUROPE, YES. HE
DOES NOT WISH TO SELL, BUT COULD BE PERSUADED
TO CHANGE HIS MIND IF
THE PRICE WERE RIGHT, BUT HE IS A BIT
ECCENTRIC, AND WE ALSO FEEL
THAT THIS EXPENDITURE IS PREMATURE.
asked about some property and some school:
would they be suitable for
the houses, and for _____ to teach?
FOR THE MAN _____. HE NEEDS MORE THAN THAT.
ATMOSPHERES ARE NOT FOR ALL SOULS. THIS SHOULD
BE GEARED TOWARD THOSE
WHO ARE IN ESSENCE. WHEN REARING CHILDREN,
QUARTERS FOR CHILDREN OFTEN PRODUCE STARTLING
INDEPENDENCE AND GROWTH
IN BOTH THE PARENTS AND THE CHILDREN, BUT ONE
SHOULD NOT BE FORCED TO
SPEND TIME THERE UNLESS IT IS IN ESSENCE.
are the Overleaves of _____? How is she tied
in with planning the
Oregon town? Did ______ marry her out of false
personality, or to
help with his goals with the town?
ATTRACTION IS NOT AN UNUSUAL ONE BETWEEN A
KING AND A WARRIOR, MOSTLY
BASED UPON THE USUAL SOCIETAL NORMS. YES, [she
married him] OUT OF
[false] PERSONALITY. SHE HAS IN FACT BECOME
DISENCHANTED WITH HER END
OF THE BARGAIN. THIS IS NOT THE MOST
FULFILLING ENVIRONMENT FOR A
YOUNG WARRIOR, BUT IS IDEAL FOR AN OLD KING.
THE CHILD NOW BORN IS
THE MOST IMPORTANT LINK, BUT HIS SEQUENCES ARE
WITH HIS FATHER. SHE
MAY EVENTUALLY FIND THE NEED TO CHANGE AND
THEN SHE SHOULD, OF
COURSE, FOLLOW HER INTUITIONS, AND NOT THE
ADVICE OF OTHERS.
S have ties with MM?
son has been said to have a tie with some
friend’s son. Does that
mean we will move there?
MERELY MEANS THAT THEY WILL SEEK FOR EACH
OTHER AT SOME TIME IN THE
FUTURE. ONE ALTERNATIVE IS THAT YOU WILL MOVE
feels she was courtesan at the time of Rameses
II in Egypt, and asks
THE TIME OF RAMESES THE SECOND, THE ONLY
COURTESANS WERE THE ROYAL
CONCUBINES. SHE WAS NOT ONE OF THEM. SHE WAS A
is the SRG of _____?
MAN WAS A THIRD LEVEL MATURE SCHOLAR IN
GROWTH, AND AN IDEALIST, YES,
A RATHER SOARING ONE IN THE POWER MODE, IN THE
EMOTIONAL PART OF
INTELLECTUAL CENTER, MOSTLY SATURNINE, SOME
JOVIAL. THIS MAN’S
CHIEF FEATURE WAS IMPATIENCE.
his aura blue green?
[it was] MOSTLY REDDISH BLUE, ON THE BLUE SIDE
OF THE RED.
one see Centering in a person’s eyes?
WITH MUCH PRACTICE, BUT MORE IN THE ACTION OF
had a heavy Scholar for a mother. She was in
the Intellectual part of
the Emotional Center. Therefore I felt I was a
failure. This week I
realized intellect does not make one a
Scholar. I am realizing now
something about how intellect works in me.
“INTELLIGENCE” THAT MOST FRAGMENTS EXHIBIT IN
THIS CULTURE IS A
MATTER OF EXPOSURE AND EDUCATION, COUPLED WITH
AN INNATE ABILITY TO
RETAIN FACTS, SINCE THIS IS WHAT THIS CULTURE
REQUIRES ABOVE ALL.
HOWEVER, THIS IS NOT INTELLIGENCE ON A COSMIC
LEVEL — THIS IS DATA
GATHERING. AS TO THE DIFFERENT ROLES AND OTHER
POSSIBILITIES ARE MANY. FOR INSTANCE, THE
SAGE IS USUALLY EXTREMELY ERUDITE. FOR
INSTANCE, DAG HAMMERSKYOLD
[sic] AND ABBA EBAN ARE EXAMPLES OF THIS. THE
ORATOR”, EMOTIONALLY CENTERED SAGES, OFTEN
INTELLIGENCE ON THE STAGE. INTELLECTUALLY
CENTERED WARRIORS MAKE FINE
TACTICIANS, PLANNERS, [and] ADMINISTRATORS.
SCHOLARS SPEND THEIR LIVES GATHERING DATA WITH
USUALLY NO MORE OF A
GOAL THAN TO ACQUIRE KNOWLEDGE. MOST MOVING
CENTERED SOULS MANIFEST
THEIR INTELLIGENCE IN PRACTICAL “DOING” WAYS.
IF THE SCHOLARS
GATHER FACTS, IT IS TOWARD A PURPOSE, SUCH AS
WRITING A BOOK, PROVING
A HYPOTHESIS, ETC.
am interested in my balance — Emotional part
of Moving Center —
so I need to find Intellectual Center. I have
some idea what it is
but am not sure what Intellectual Center is.
CENTER, WHEN WORKING WITHOUT INTERFERENCE OR
ENERGY LEAKS, HAS THE
CAPACITY TO RECORD AND PROCESS DATA IN A
DETACHED AND NON-JUDGMENTAL
FASHION. FROM THE MOVING CENTER, THIS LOOKS
LIKE LEARNING WITHOUT
NECESSARILY DOING; IN OTHER WORDS, LEARNING
FOR THE PLEASURE OF
LEARNING, WITHOUT THE PROVISO OF APPLICATION
CENTERED SOULS, OR THOSE WORKING THROUGH
EMOTIONAL CENTER, OPERATE ON
INTUITION, AND FEEL, RATHER THAN THINK,
THROUGH A PROBLEM. MOVING
CENTERED SOULS, OR THOSE WORKING THROUGH
MOVING CENTER, ARE CONCERNED
WITH THE ACTION, AND READ WITH THIS IN MIND,
WITH ALWAYS AN EYE
TOWARD LATER APPLICATION.
has been eliminating the word “love”, as
machines are not capable
of love. Maybe you externally consider others.
Could you comment on
love and external considering? [“External
considering” is a
Gurdjief term for intentionally seeing
yourself in the place of the
other person, and seeing things from their
point of view. This is
contrasted to “internal considering”, which is
of course just
seeing things from your own point of view.]
ARE SYNONYMOUS. WE SEE NO DIFFERENCE. THE
“MACHINE” CAN DO
NEITHER, BUT IT IS POSSIBLE FOR YOU STUDENTS
TO DO BOTH WITH WORK. A
WORD ABOUT BALANCE FOR THE NEW STUDENTS: THIS
UTILIZING THE MOVING PART OF MOVING CENTER,
THE EMOTIONAL PART OF
EMOTIONAL CENTER, AND THE INTELLECTUAL PART OF
AND IN A SPLIT SECOND DIFFERENTIATING WHICH
APPLIES IN A GIVEN
SITUATION, WITH NO CONSEQUENT ENERGY LEAK.
had a question on use of sound as work, and
the man H.
HAVE SUGGESTED THE USE OF HARMONIES MANY
TIMES. THIS IS A SOUND
APPROACH. EXCUSE THE PUN.
would like to ask about my mother’s lawyer:
are there karmic ties?
Is that the reason she is having such a
difficult time with him? Why
is he holding back?
KARMIC TIES, JUST A DIFFICULT BABY SCHOLAR WHO
IS OBSTINATE AND
_____ suggested (and I agree) that initials
should be used in these
transcripts instead of full names when
questions are asked about
people not in this teaching, the point being
that touchy baby souls
might get ahold of the material and sue. If
anyone else has
suggestions, discussion is more than welcome.
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