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 January 27, 1974





WE ARE HERE WITH YOU. WE WOULD COMMENT THAT THE ENERGY LEVEL IS GOOD.

I would like a comment on a conflict I see in my husband and myself, that whenever I come up with new directions for myself, he always tries to talk me out of them by saying he doesn’t see how they would do any good.

THIS OFTEN HAPPENS IN LONG-TERM RELATIONSHIPS. WHEN THE SOUL IN SUBMISSION DECIDES TO ALTER THIS GOAL, IT IS QUITE A SHOCK TO THOSE AROUND IT AND YOU MUST BE PREPARED FOR RESISTANCE, SOMETIMES DISGUISED AND COVERT, BUT SOMETIMES THE POT ACTUALLY BOILS OVER. {To the husband:] YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO SEE THIS IN YOURSELF AND RESIST THE TEMPTATION TO PULL (her) BACK. THIS IS AN INTERESTING REACTION, AND INVARIABLY HAPPENS EVEN IN SITUATIONS WHERE ONE SOUL HAS BEEN URGING THE OTHER TO GROW. WHEN THE GROWTH MOVEMENT OCCURS, THE RESISTANCE IS VIRTUALLY AUTOMATIC. THIS CREATES SOME FASCINATING PARADOXES, IN THAT SOMETIMES THE RATE OF GROWTH IN THE ONE ALTERING SEEMS TO ACCELERATE RAPIDLY, LEAVING THE OTHER TEMPORARILY BEHIND. MANY BROKEN RELATIONSHIPS STEM FROM THIS PERIOD OF RELATIVE ACCELERATION. MANY ARE NOT WILLING TO RIDE OUT THE STORM, AND SEE WHERE THE EVENING-OUT BEGINS.

WE WOULD POINT OUT TO YOU AT THIS POINT THAT THERE IS A VAST DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SPIRITUAL GROWTH AND “ENLIGHTENMENT”. WE WOULD EXPECT ALL OF YOU, WITHOUT EXCEPTION, TO GROW FROM THIS EXPERIENCE. WE WOULD NOT EXPECT YOU ALL TO ACHIEVE “COSMIC CONSCIOUSNESS”.

I would like Michael to comment on his last statement about “cosmic consciousness”.

WE SEE IN ONE STUDENT THE DESIRE AND ABILITY TO BECOME AN OCCULT ADEPT IN THIS LIFETIME.

Can the involvement of the occult pull one away from the spiritual?

IF YOU MAKE THE MISTAKE OF EQUATING THE ARCANE ARTS WITH ‘’MAGIC”, YES, WE AGREE.

I would like to ask for the SRG of a partner at EST who participated with me in an experiment where we looked into each others eyes for an hour without deviating. She seemed to be about where I am, and in Acceptance. Her face turned into that of a pig and I could not tell her that.

THIS LADY IS A THIRD LEVEL OLD SCHOLAR IN ACCEPTANCE. THE ILLUSIONS WERE YOUR OWN SYMBOLIC WAY OF DEALING WITH AN EXTREMELY FRUSTRATING SITUATION IN YOUR LIFE WHERE YOU FEEL THAT YOU SHOULD HAVE TO EITHER FORCE OTHERS TO LISTEN OR PAY THEM FOR THEIR SERVICE. THIS IS ONE OF THE HALLMARKS 0F THE SUBMISSION GOAL, AND YOU WISH TO LEAVE THAT BEHIND. YOU MADE HER DELIBERATELY GROTESQUE IN ORDER TO JUSTIFY TAKING UP HER VALUABLE TIME. WE WOULD HOPE THAT WHEN YOU CONTEMPLATE THIS SEQUENCE, YOU WILL REALIZE ENOUGH ABOUT THE MECHANICS TO STOP THE ILLUSIONS THE NEXT TIME THE SETUP OCCURS.

Were there really people from other planets who built or helped build the pyramids and Peruvian “landing strips” [Nazca lines]?

THERE HAS BEEN MUCH CONTACT BETWEEN THIS WORLD AND OTHERS, BOTH IN THE PAST AND RECENTLY. YES, THERE HAVE BEEN MANY INSTANCES WHERE THE CONTACT HAS BENEFITED CIVILIZATION ON THE RISE, MOSTLY BY IMITATION RATHER THAN BY DESIGN.

Why build these big pyramids? What was their function?

THE PYRAMIDS WERE DESIGNED AND BUILT BY THE OCCULT BROTHERHOOD, NOT BY VISITORS FROM OUTER SPACE. THIS HAD TO DO WITH A THEORY OF CHANNELING THE LIFE FORCE MUCH IN THE WAY THAT WE WOULD DEPICT THE REUNION OF THE FRAGMENTS OF ANCIENT ENTITIES.

Still, how did they do it: each stone weighs two tons. How could they do it without modern technical machines?

THIS IS NO PARTICULAR STRAIN FOR A BROTHER. THEIR POWERS WERE GREAT.

Why did they do it?

INITIALLY THE BROTHERHOOD WAS CONCERNED WITH THE WORSHIP OF RA, OR THE CONTINUING LIFE FORCE. THIS GRADUALLY TRANSFORMED ITSELF INTO THE HORUS-OSIRIS MYTH OF THE RENEWAL OF THE CREATIVE FORCE EACH YEAR. THIS BROUGHT ABOUT GREAT CHANGES IN THE CIVILIZATION THEN UNDER CONTROL OF THE BROTHERHOOD.

Could you comment on the things in Peru which look like landing strips?

THE LANDING STRIPS ARE JUST THAT: LANDING FIELDS. THEY WERE CONSTRUCTED DURING EARLY VISITS. THE LARGE STONE FIGURES ON EASTER ISLAND ARE MONUMENTS TO THE “STAR GODS”. THEY BROUGHT WITH THEM TEMPORARY PROSPERITY AND BIG, IMPORTANT MAGIC.

I feel unable to shake a past association.

WHAT YOU FEEL WITH HIM ARE KARMIC BONDS. WE WOULD POINT OUT AT THIS STAGE THAT NOT ALL RELATIONSHIPS ARE KARMIC. MANY SIMPLY ARE PHYSICAL, OR EROTIC, IF YOU WILL. SOME ARE SIMPLY CHANCE ENCOUNTERS BY PLEASANT, COMPATIBLE SOULS, AND OTHERS ARE FORCED INTO STRANGE RELATIONSHIPS BY THE KARMIC BONDS OF THOSE AROUND THEM.

I would like some reading suggestions.

FOR YOU, THE AUTOBIOGRAPHY OF MOHANDAS GANDHI WOULD BE A START; THE WORKS OF PLATO ALSO.

I would like a comment on the [book and] movie, Chariots of the Gods [by Erick von Daniken]. And what made the Sahara Desert? Was it an atomic explosion?

NO. THOSE WERE MATTER-ANTIMATTER EXPLOSIONS, NOT NUCLEAR. (They were) CONTROLLED. IN THE CHAMBERS THERE WAS AN ACCIDENT IN SPACE NECESSITATING A LARGE PAYLOAD OF EQUIPMENT THAT WAS SENT INTO ORBIT. THE SHIPS USED WERE NECESSARILY POORLY BUILT BECAUSE OF LACK OF MUCH TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE, BUT [they] DID THE JOB. THE HULL OF THE INTERSTELLAR SPACE SHIP WAS DAMAGED. THIS HAD TO BE REPAIRED IN SPACE. THE ROCKETS USED TO THROW THE MATERIAL INTO ORBIT WERE LABORIOUSLY CONSTRUCTED OUT OF WHAT WAS AT HAND.

What civilization was Michael referring to?

THEY WERE FROM A NEARBY SOLAR SYSTEM. HOWEVER, THE ATLANTEANS WERE FAMILIAR WITH MATTER-ANTIMATTER PROPULSION.

How long will it take for our civilization to have reactions of matter-antimatter?

WITHOUT HELP, EONS. WE WOULD ADD THOUGH THAT THE HELP IS AVAILABLE.

Did the Atlanteans have help?

THEY WERE MORE IMAGINATIVE AND FAR LESS AGGRESSIVE. ALSO, THEY WERE NOT ALIENATED.

I am coming to a realization of ignorance. Is the “Dark Night of the Soul” similar to what John felt? I am beginning to appreciate the ignorance of previous conditions. I do not want to talk because there is nothing to say — you realize you know nothing.

WE WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO RECALL WHAT YOU JUST SAID IN ITS ENTIRETY, AND PHOTOGRAPH THE INGRATIATION. WE DO FEEL THAT YOU ARE GOING TOWARD BALANCE, AND YES, THE FEELING IS THE SAME. THAT IS THE FIRST STEP. YOU MUST PLUNGE ALL THE WAY DOWN IN ORDER TO START THE CLIMB UP. EVEN JESUS HAD TO DO THIS — EVEN BEFORE THE INFINITE SOUL WOULD MANIFEST.

This is what we therapists call “creative illness”.

THE RECOGNITION OF THE IGNORANCE OF FALSE PERSONALITY IS THE FIRST STEP TOWARD LIBERATING THE ESSENCE.

How does Stoic work with her being Emotionally Centered? Would it tone down the Intellectual Center?

THAT IS VALID. IT [Stoicism] SERVES AS A MITIGATING FACTOR [to the Emotional Center], AND ALLOWS FOR BETTER CONTACT WITH INTELLECTUAL CENTER.

In reading our new workbook on page 82, I have a question about integrating Fragments and them having a pull on you and it being “curtains” for those who integrate. Also I have a question about karma: they said the strength comes from those already integrated; is good and evil the fulfillment of karma with a promise to return to “paradise” after this fulfillment?

THAT QUESTION WAS RAISED IN A SPIRIT OF WISHFUL POIGNANCY AND CONCERNED MISSING CERTAIN ASPECTS OF LIFE ON THE PHYSICAL PLANE SUCH AS SUNLIGHT FILTERING THROUGH THE TREES, ETC. HOWEVER, YOU ARE RIGHT, THE GOOD AND EVIL MENTIONED IN THAT PARADISE REFERS TO NEGATIVE AND POSITIVE POLES OF THE MONADS. EVEN AFTER EVOLUTION TO THE ASTRAL PLANE, THERE ARE MANY STEPS YET TO TAKE. RETURN TO THE TAO IS THE GOAL OR PURPOSE. PERHAPS THIS IS AN AREA [in] WHICH WE STILL MUST GROW, FOR WE DO NOT SEE THIS AS AN INSUFFICIENT GOAL.

If I spend half of the time which I spend sleeping on the astral plane, why am I not aware of it? How can I achieve awareness of this?

BY NOT BLOCKING THE EXPERIENCE. THE WORKSHOPS (Monroe’s out-of-body trips) SHOULD HELP IN THAT.

I feel a question I typed from last Sunday’s session was incorrect. The answer was, “NO, NOT THE JESUITS”. And I had something about the occult and it does not seem right. The priest who exorcised the Daly City couple was a Jesuit. My question is: Could I have the question for that answer?

THE QUESTION CONCERNED DOGMA AND NOT EXORCISM, FOR THE JESUITS HAVE LED THE FIELD IN OCCULT MATTERS.

Is good karma repeated, and what is to be gained by repeating it?

MANY TIMES, TO COMPLETE A MONAD LEFT OVER.

What would be an example of good karma repeated over and over?

TEACHER-PUPIL IS ONE MONAD FREQUENTLY INCOMPLETE FOR MANY LIVES. THIS MUST BE COMPLETED, BUT IS NEVER ADVERSE.

Would it have to be with the same person?

SOMETIMES, NOT ALWAYS.

There is a strong feeling here that knowledge of my immediate past lives would shed light for me on my present life and what I have to do in this one for karmic releases.

WE FEEL THAT POSSIBLY IT WOULD ALSO, BUT WE WOULD PREFER THAT YOU FIRST DEFINE YOUR OWN AREAS OF BAD WORK. ONLY THEN WILL THE KNOWLEDGE BE OF VALUE. IF WE SIMPLY TOLD YOU THE CIRCUMSTANCES, CONFUSION WOULD REIGN. THE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS SHOULD BE AT LEAST CLEAR IN OUR OWN MIND BEFORE WE SUPPLY SPECIFIC ANSWERS.

Please explain my earlier question. Did you understand it?

YES, WE UNDERSTOOD. THE QUESTION IS MOOT NOW. THE PROBLEM SEEMS TO ARISE FROM YOUR RELUCTANCE AT A DEEPER LEVEL TO ACCEPT THIS AS A RATIONAL GOAL. WE WONDER IF YOU HAVE IN MIND SOMETHING EXPRESSIBLE AS A SUBSTITUTE GOAL. WE DO NOT THINK SO. THERE SEEMS TO BE AN ELEMENT OF WISHFUL DREAMING.

I would like to know if one choses his Attitudes.

YOU CHOOSE THEM AND YOU CAN ALTER THEM. FEW CHOOSE TO DO SO.

Is romanticism Idealism?

NOT ALWAYS.

I am doing that now. Do I keep taking care of her? Why do I feel guilty?

BECAUSE THAT IS IN ESSENCE FOR YOU. IN EACH CASE YOU WERE ABLE TO GIVE THE GIFT OF HIGHER EXPRESSION. ONCE IN THE REMOTE PAST SHE CARED FOR YOU WHEN YOU WERE ORPHANED, BUT THIS DID NOT REQUIRE THE MASSIVE OBEISANCE [you have] PERFORMED [as repayment] — THIS WAS SOLELY WITHIN YOU. THE GUILT IS SOMETHING YOU MUST SHED BEFORE YOU CAN GROW. FURTHER, YOUR DEBT TO THIS LADY IS PAID TEN THOUSAND FOLD.

My perception of the teaching since reading Carlos Castaneda's books is that it is the experience we are looking for and not the words.

I have the same feeling. We have much too many words here, and I think I will come once a month. There is too much “aboutism”. We’re talking, not living. They told me what to do and I have done nothing. You are not going to find the answer in Oregon.

I would go because it is cheaper to live there and it is cheaper yet in the rural part. We would not have to work so hard as here, and we could spend more time on [spiritual] evolution.



 

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