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 January 20, 1974





What is the next Overleaf?

WE WOULD PREFER NOT [to say], ESPECIALLY WITH SO MANY NEW PEOPLE.

It was hard for me to leave _____’s group, and I never understood why, but I had to leave. Is there a comment here for me?

HE WAS NOT YOUR [true] TEACHER, AND AT ANOTHER LEVEL YOU KNEW THIS, AND LEFT TO SEARCH AGAIN.

Why was he not my teacher?

THERE WAS NOT SUFFICIENT POLAR ATTRACTION.

Would this have to do with Bodytypes or what?

THIS TAKES INTO CONSIDERATION ALL OF THE OVERLEAVES.

Do Warriors and Scholars conflict?

NO. THIS IS ONE OF THE GREATEST AFFINITIES.

I would like to ask for comments about the film, The Exorcist. I did not see it, but I have been reading about it in the paper. It seems to be an ugly film, and it is attracting many crowds who faint or become ill.

THE STORY IS, OF COURSE, CONSUMMATELY ABSURD. AS WE HAVE TOLD YOU REPEATEDLY, THE DEMONS CONJURED UP ON THE PHYSICAL PLANE ARE OF YOUR OWN CREATION. IF BELIEF IN THE EXORCIST’S SKILL IS GREAT ENOUGH, THE DRAGONS CAN BE SLAYED IN THIS WAY. THIS IS AN ANCIENT SKILL, NOW MUCH ABUSED. JESUS OF COURSE HAD THIS SKILL EVEN BEFORE THE MANIFESTATION [of the Infinite Soul], BUT HE ALSO REALIZED THAT THE DEMONS WERE SELF-INFLICTED. MOST OCCULT MASTERS WILLINGLY EXORCISED, BUT THEY DO TRY TO MAKE THE AFFLICTED ONE REALIZE THAT THE DEMONS WERE CREATED OUT OF ETHERIC MATERIAL, AND HAVE NO PLACE IN THE CONCRETE REALITY OF THE PHYSICAL PLANE. MOST “POSSESSIONS” OCCUR TO BABY SOULS IN REJECTION.

I have heard it said that when Christ was born He was a reincarnation of Zoroaster.

THAT IS VALID.

He said in the Bible that He was Elias [Elijah] reincarnated.

THAT IS ALSO VALID. JOHN [The Baptist?] AND JESUS WERE BOTH FRAGMENTS OF THE SAME ANCIENT ENTITY. AT THE TIME OF THEIR LAST PHYSICAL INCARNATION, ALL THE FRAGMENTS HAD REUNITED. THIS WAS AN ENTITY COMPOSED OF FIVE HUNDRED PRIESTS AND FIVE HUNDRED KINGS.

Michael told us to study Epicurus, for a reason that Christ was much influenced by him. The problem I have here is that from what I read about Epicurus, he believed the soul and the body were one and inseparable, and there is no reincarnation.

WE SAID THAT JESUS WAS HEAVILY INFLUENCED BY EPICURUS. HE WAS. EPICURUS WAS NOT A MANIFESTATION [of a Transcendental or Infinite Soul]; HE WAS A MATURE PRIEST. THE HUMANITARIAN ASPECTS OF HIS PHILOSOPHY ARE WORTH EMULATING. THIS, BY THE WAY, IS TYPICAL OF GREEK THOUGHT OF THAT PERIOD. JESUS KNEW ABOUT REINCARNATION THROUGH THE MYSTICAL TEACHINGS OF THE ESSENES IN THE HILLS AROUND THE TOWN IN WHICH HE WAS BORN. AS AN OLD SOUL, THIS MAN WENT THROUGH ALL OF THE CONFUSION AND DOUBTS THAT SOME OF YOU ARE NOW EXPERIENCING, THE DIFFERENCE BEING THAT HE WAS ABLE TO SORT IT OUT. THE GREEK PHILOSOPHERS WISHED TO NEGATE THE CHARM OF THE “OTHER WORLD” SO THAT THIS WORLD WOULD HAVE MORE MEANING. THEY, OF COURSE, SUCCEEDED NOT AT ALL, BUT THE GENTLENESS OF EPICUREAN THOUGHT PERSISTED THROUGH THE AGES PRIMARILY BECAUSE OF THE SEPARATION FROM THE AFFAIRS OF STATE, WHICH IS VALID. THIS SEPARATION MUST BE MADE BEFORE FURTHER GROWTH CAN ENSUE.

I would like to ask for comment about a lady who did a psychic reading for me.

ESSENTIALLY THERE WAS CONSIDERABLE DRAMA THERE. THIS LADY IS A MATURE SAGE.

Was it embellished?

SHE DOES NOT EMBELLISH AS MUCH AS SHE DRAMATIZES. THERE IS A DIFFERENCE.

I would like to hear something about the teachings of Jesus in relation to divorce: He was always so harsh.

THE QUESTION OF DIVORCE IS A TRAGIC ONE ONLY IN YOUR CULTURE, AS RELATIVELY LITTLE THOUGHT IS GIVEN TO THE SUITABILITY OF THE PAIR BONDING INITIALLY. ASSIGNING ALL OF THIS TO “PROVIDENCE” IS NONSENSE. WE ARE SURPRISED ONLY THAT MORE PAIR BONDS CONTRACTED IN THIS HAPHAZARD MANNER DO NOT DISSOLVE. JESUS WAS COGNIZANT OF THIS. THERE WAS SOME PERSONAL BIAS HERE THAT CAME OUT IN THIS MAN [Jesus], AS THE MARRIAGE BETWEEN HIS MOTHER AND FATHER WAS DOTTED WITH INTERFERENCE FROM HIS MOTHER’S FAMILY. HIS FATHER’S ONLY RECOURSE WAS TO THREATEN REGULARLY DIVORCE WHEN HE COULD NO LONGER STAND THE PRESSURE EXERTED BY AN OBNOXIOUS BROTHER-IN-LAW. JESUS GREW UP WITH THIS HANGING OVER HIS HEAD.

THIS IS A FIFTH LEVEL YOUNG ARTISAN IN GROWTH, A VENUSIAN-LUNAR, EMOTIONALLY CENTERED. SHE WAS FIRST BORN TO S.G. THIS IS THE TIE THAT MOST TENUOUSLY BINDS THEM TOGETHER. THAT WAS DURING THE PEAK OF THE BABYLONIAN CIVILIZATION.

If Jesus’ prejudiced ideas of divorce were attributed to his early childhood, how does Michael form their ideas to set down values and judgments of divorce.

THE FRAGMENTS OF THIS ENTITY (Michael), AT THE TIME THEY WERE ON THE PHYSICAL PLANE, RAN THE GAMUT OF OPINION CULMINATING IN THE OPINION THAT ACCEPTANCE OF ALL OTHER SOULS IN THE FORM OF AGAPE WAS THE GREATEST TRUTH. THIS DID NOT OCCUR UNTIL THE [reincarnation] CYCLE WAS COMPLETED. THE INTERPERSONAL RELATIONSHIPS INDUCED BY YOUR CULTURE ARE SUPERFICIAL, AND ARE FOR THE MOST PART TO BE CONDEMNED IN TEACHINGS SUCH AS THIS. THE STUDENTS [of such teachings] OFTEN GROW TO THE POINT WHERE THE RELATIONSHIPS TRANSCEND THIS SUPERFICIALITY AND TRULY BECOME SPIRITUAL BONDING, OR PSYCHIC UNION — WHICH IS WHAT JESUS WAS TALKING ABOUT. HE ATTEMPTED TO DISCOURAGE RELATIONSHIPS BASED UPON EROTIC LOVE, ESPECIALLY AMONG THOSE CLOSE TO HIM.

It has been said that “people” on the astral plane have access to the high mental plane. Does Michael have access to the high mental plane?

YES. THAT IS VALID.

If there were psychic union, there would be no divorce: is that so?

PSYCHIC UNION IS CONTRACTED ON OTHER THAN THE PHYSICAL PLANE, YES.

Does that type of union happen at different soul levels?

YES. THIS USUALLY DOES NOT HAPPEN AT ALL UNTIL THE FINAL LIFE CYCLE [old soul age], IF AT ALL. SPIRITUAL GROWTH CAN, OF COURSE, HAPPEN AT EARLIER LEVELS, BUT YOUR CULTURE THWARTS IT.

Will this culture always thwart it?

HOPEFULLY NOT.

Are there problems when Baby souls marry Older souls?

OLDER SOULS HAVE HAD RELATIVELY UNCOMPLICATED RELATIONSHIPS WITH BABY SOULS, BUT USUALLY ONLY WHEN THE BABY [soul] IS FEMALE.

Would it be better for a marriage relationship to have the persons in different Centers of gravity? I understand that my husband and I are both Intellectually Centered. Is this a source of our problems?

BEING IN THE SAME CENTER OF GRAVITY USUALLY MAKES FOR AN EASIER RELATIONSHIP RATHER THAN A MORE DIFFICULT ONE. YOUR PROBLEMS ARE IN THE DIFFERENCE IN GOALS [Growth versus Submission].

I would like to ask, if there is no such thing as possession by devils, what the devil it was that happened to the family in Daly City where knives were thrown into the wall by no apparent human, pieces of chicken were thrown around, etc., and the Catholic priest “exorcised the demons” away for these people.

THIS WAS NOT A POSSESSION; THIS WAS A HABITATION [haunting?].

What is that?

THE ETHERIC VEHICLES OF NEWLY DEAD [people did this].

Why these particular people? Is it karmic? Is it an error?

[It was] NOT NECESSARILY [karmic]. THE[re was an] ERROR IN THIS CASE, YES. (The etheric vehicle was) FROM A MOTORCYCLE ACCIDENT.

Did these people have any choice?

NO. THEY CONTRIBUTED TO THE STRENGTH OF THE MANIFESTATION THROUGH THEIR FEAR.

The etheric spirit has no power of its own, and I have heard that it borrows energy from people, or pets, and does freaky things.

Cremation is supposed to make the etheric vehicle disappear. Michael could remove it. It is only there for a limited time. It is the etheric aura which remains in graveyards of the freshly buried. People have seen skeletons in the graveyard.

Could we have a comment on what the priest did and how he did it?

THIS PRIEST WAS ABLE TO PSYCHICALLY REUNITE THE ETHERIC FRAGMENT WITH THE ASTRAL VEHICLE SO THAT IT COULD DECOMPOSE NORMALLY ON THE ASTRAL PLANE. THIS [deceased person] WAS A BABY SOUL WITH A STRONG ATTACHMENT TO THE PHYSICAL PLANE.

This is why it is good to pray for the soul to go in the proper direction when someone dies.

I assume then that the words the priest said did nothing.

NO, THEY DID NOT, BUT WHAT HE DID PSYCHICALLY DID. HAD HE BEEN SILENT, HE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO CONVINCE THE INHABITED [haunted] ONES THAT ANYTHING HAD BEEN DONE, AND THEY WOULD HAVE RECREATED THEIR PROBLEM.

Is the priest aware of what he is doing psychically? Do all priests know how to exorcise?

NOT THE JESUITS. PLEASE MAKE THAT DISTINCTION. THIS MAN IS AWARE.

I do not understand Michael when they say that demons and hell are absurd. What do they say about the three temptations of Christ where He said, “Get thee behind me, Satan”? He drove the demons out of many people.

SUBSTITUTE THE WORD “MAYA” FOR THE WORD “SATAN”. WE DID NOT SAY THAT HELL, DEMONS, AND THE LIKE WERE ABSURD, MERELY OF YOUR OWN CREATION. THEY ARE VERY REAL TO THOSE WHO MUST ENDURE THEM. WHERE THE RUB COMES IS THAT YOU NEED NOT ENDURE THEM.

The “devil” then can be said to be a product of our False Personality. It is the physical body fighting Essence.

It is the carnal mind that keeps one from seeing Jesus.

Robert Monroe, in his book on the out-of-body experiences, described several monster-like creatures on his neck. These are demons in between lives, Baby Souls who cannot stand the loss of the physical. Why does Christ threaten hell fire and brimstone and casting into outer darkness? Why does He say there will be much gnashing of teeth (all the money spent on orthodontia, too)?

JESUS DID NOT THREATEN ANYONE WITH VIOLENCE OF HIS OWN MAKING. HE MERELY POINTED OUT TO THEM WHAT WAS IN STORE FOR THEM IF THEY CONTINUED TO PURSUE THE COURSE THEY WERE ON. ONE OF THE GROUPS HIT THE HARDEST WAS THE PHARISEES, WHO HAD EXTREMELY LITERAL AND UNSHAKABLE BELIEFS IN A PERSONAL, LIVING GOD. THIS WAS NOT THE EASIEST GROUP TO CHALLENGE, BUT THEY DID UNDERSTAND THREATS. THE SADDUCEES, ON THE OTHER HAND, WERE ALREADY SKEPTICAL AND MORE WILLING TO GIVE UP THE PERSONIFICATION, BUT WERE NOT WILLING TO GO TO BATTLE FOR THEIR BELIEFS. THE JEWISH WORLD BY THAT TIME WAS SPLIT WIDE OPEN AT THAT TIME BY THE OPPOSING FACTIONS. THE SADDUCEES LIKED THE HELLENISTIC INFLUENCES AND LIKED MUCH ABOUT THE ROMAN DOMINION: BESIDES THEY HAD NO DESIRE TO ROCK THE BOAT. THE PHARISEES, ALTHOUGH CERTAINLY NOT AS OPPOSED AS THE ZEALOTS AND THE ESSENES, DID RESENT THE MERE PRESENCE OF OUTSIDERS IN THEIR MIDST. THEY FELT RITUALLY UNCLEAN FROM THE DAILY CONTACT WITH UNCIRCUMCISED HEATHENS, AND FOR THEM, THE PRESENCE OF SO MANY OUTSIDERS WAS AN ANNOYANCE AND THEY RESENTED IT. THEY ALSO CONSIDERED IT A BAD INFLUENCE ON WOMEN AND YOUNG CHILDREN. ROMAN LADIES OFTEN ACCOMPANIED THEIR HUSBANDS INTO BATTLE AND TO THE PROVINCES.

Question lost.

AT FIRST WHEN THIS YOUNG MAN [Jesus] BEGAN HIS ACTIVE RABBINATE, THAT WAS BEFORE THE MANIFESTATION [of the Infinite Soul]. HE EXPERIENCED MANY FRIGHTENING VISIONS OF HIS OWN CREATION. THE MAN LUCANUS QUIRINUS [Luke] CONDENSED ABOUT TEN YEARS [of Jesus' ministry] INTO THREE.

How old was Christ when He left His body?

HE WAS BORN SIX YEARS BEFORE THE COMMON ERA. (Christ was born six years before Christ!). HE DIED MARCH SEVENTEENTH IN THE THIRTY-THIRD YEAR OF THE COMMON ERA. (So He was 39.) [Jesus was said to have been crucified at the time of the Jewish Passover, bit it never happens this early in the year -- before the equinox.]

If we aren’t supposed to be judgmental, why was it that Christ seemed so judgmental? I realize it is symbolic when He says, “Don’t cast pearls before swine”. I sort of resent that He judges some people as swine.

That is like saying, “Don’t give meat to babies” because they are not ready to digest it yet.

THE MAN JESUS WAS SUBJECT TO ALL THE HUMAN FRAILTIES, INCLUDING JUDGMENTAL TENDENCIES. THE INFINITE SOUL WAS NOT.

How can we tell what is from Jesus and what is the Logos?

THIS TEACHING [from us] SHOULD ENABLE YOU TO DIFFERENTIATE.

Why did He cry? Was it because of what He saw in the future for people?

THE INFINITE SOUL IS NOT BEREFT OF EMOTION. IT WAS COMPASSION.

It seems that I am going from the Young soul to the Mature Level because of a great change in how I perceive people. I see them so much more differently than a while back. Can you comment?

WE WOULD PREFER THAT YOU CONTINUALLY OBSERVE YOUR CHANGES AND DECIDE FOR YOURSELF.

Is it a universal desire to be in another’s head (as Jane Fonda once said that was what she would like most of all)?

THAT IS THE DESIRE OF MOST SOULS IN [the Goal of] GROWTH.

I get the feeling that one should not be hung up in the literal translation of the New Testament. Do you have to drop the literal interpretation?

AS IT CERTAINLY IS NOT PROFANE, WE SUPPOSE THAT ONE COULD CALL THIS WORK [the Bible] “SACRED”. WE WOULD PREFER “INSPIRED”, AS MUCH OF IT CAME DOWN THROUGH CENTURIES OF ORAL TRADITION. MUCH OF THE OLD TESTAMENT IS POETRY AND MYSTICAL. THIS CANNOT BE TAKEN LITERALLY. THE MAN, JOHN [author of the “Revelation”, not the apostle], WAS A WITNESS OF THAT WHICH HE ATTEMPTED TO DESCRIBE. HE WAS AN EMOTIONALLY CENTERED YOUNG SCHOLAR. THE MAN, PETER, WAS FUNCTIONALLY ILLITERATE, WHICH WAS A SHAME, FOR HE UNDERSTOOD MORE THAN HE COULD COMMUNICATE. JOHN WAS SUBJECT TO VISIONS.

Matthew seemed the most judgmental and bitter.

THE CONCEPT OF BITTERNESS IN MATTHEW IS VALID. HE HAD AN AX TO GRIND, AND ALTHOUGH HE TRIED DESPERATELY TO PURGE HIS BIAS, IT DID SPILL OUT AT TIMES. HE WAS CRUELLY TREATED IN THE COUNTRY OF HIS BIRTH.

I do not have one grain of faith in the Bible other than [as] a teaching. I am happy to borrow from Buddhism. There are too many obscure things in the Bible. What I have for myself I have verified step by step without faith.

WHAT WE CALL “INTUITION”, SOME [Christians] CALL “FAITH”.

I would like to hear Michael’s definition of ”spirituality”.

THAT WHICH IS BORN OF ESSENCE AND IS DEVOID OF MAYA IS SPIRITUAL.

What does Michael say about a seminary community? Is it spiritual?

SOME [members] OF THEM ARE. SOME HAVE NO INKLING OF ANYTHING BEYOND THE PHYSICAL PLANE, BUT ARE DRAWN TO THE CLERGY BECAUSE IT IS A NICE THING TO DO.

Intuition is premonition.

THAT IS NOT INTUITION EITHER; THAT IS PRECOGNITION.

I expect something like the “Baptism of the Holy Ghost”. How can I reach what I want?

WE HAVE SUGGESTED TO YOU SEVERAL WAYS THAT SHOULD HELP YOU FIND WHAT YOU SEEK. WHY DON’T YOU TRY AT LEAST ONE OR THE OTHER.

Michael is giving us the how: the synthesis!

[Some here] ACCEPT US AS THEIR TEACHER. THIS IS NOT NECESSARILY THE TRUTH FOR [others here].

If the soul levels are the same and both are aiming for the truth, (and I believe we all have the truth within us), does the soul Levels see the truth differently?

YES; ALSO THE ROLES DICTATE SOME DIFFERENCE IN APPROACH TO THE TRUTH.

Do Bodytypes have personality traits? The group answered: No.



 

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