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Present: RC and SC, RH and AH, CH.
WE ARE HERE WITH YOU TONIGHT. TAKE A LOOK AT THE
PROBLEMS THAT BRING
MILLIONS OF PEOPLE TO THE PSYCHIATRIC COUCH EACH
YEAR, AND THEY ALL BOIL
DOWN TO ALIENATION. THE GREATEST ADVANTAGE OF
COMMUNAL LIVING IS THE
ELIMINATION OF ISOLATION IN AN OPPORTUNITY TO
GROW IN AN ENVIRONMENT THAT IS
PROTECTIVE AND NURTURING. IF YOU ARE CONCERNED
ABOUT OTHERS TAKING ADVANTAGE
OF YOU, THIS SIMPLY MEANS THAT MUCH MORE WORK IS
NEEDED IN THIS AREA BY YOU.
THEN YOU MUST GET TO A SPACE WHERE NO ONE ELSE
CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF YOU.
YOU CAN BECOME INVULNERABLE, PARTICULARLY IF YOU
STOP TAKING A LACK OF
ENTHUSIASM ON OTHERS' PART AS A PERSONAL SLIGHT.
R.C. HAS MUCH WORK TO DO IN
THE AREA OF "BEING", OR BEING ABLE TO LIVE ONE
DAY AT A TIME. HOW MANY TIMES
HAVE YOUR DIRE FANTASIES BORNE FRUIT, R.C.?
We discussed some of the problems each of us saw
in living together.
THIS DISCUSSION IS A DEFINITELY POSITIVE STEP
AND SHOULD BE CARRIED FURTHER.
THE SOLUTION IS NOT A PERMANENT ONE, BUT SHOULD
GIVE YOU SOME IDEA OF WHAT
COMMUNAL LIVING IS ALL ABOUT. THE PRESSURES OF
THE JOBS ARE IN THE WAY, BUT
HOW CAN WE CONVINCE YOU THAT YOU HAVE CREATED
THE CIRCUMSTANCES AND ARE NOW
THROWING UP ADDITIONAL OBSTACLES. SOME OF THESE
ARE VALID, BUT CAN BE
SOLVED. R.C. HAS A SYSTEM OF PRIORITIZING
ASSIGNMENTS THAT CAN BE CONVERTED
INTO SOMETHING VIABLE ONLY IF THE PRIORITIES CAN
BE MADE MORE REALISTIC: NOT
SO MANY "SHOULDS" AND "HAVE TO'S", MORE WANTS
We had more discussion of how to simplify our
WE OFFER ENCOURAGEMENT. THE DETAILS OF THE
BUSINESS TRANSACTIONS CHANGE FROM
DAY TO DAY. THESE DETAILS CAN BE WORKED OUT IN
JUST SUCH A WAY AS YOU HAVE
BEEN DISCUSSING. WE SUGGEST THAT YOU CONTINUE TO
DISCUSS IT IN THE LIGHT OF
LIQUIDATION OF EXCESS HOLDINGS AND DUPLICATION
OF ENERGIES. FOR NOW, THIS
WILL BE AN ENORMOUS STEP.
RC: If Soleal comes, this is the only place with
eight foot doors. Could I
have a comment?
SOLEAL CAN STOOP. HE IS QUITE ADAPTABLE, AND WE
BELIEVE THAT HE HAS ALREADY
INFORMED YOU THAT HE WAS WILLING TO FOREGO SOME
OF HIS LUXURIES.
We discussed where the fifty-member crew would
sleep, and wondered if they
were as large as Soleal says he is.
THEY VARY FROM ABOUT SIX FEET SEVEN INCHES TO
SOLEAL'S HEIGHT. HE IS ONE OF
Is there a message for our group for the new
WE WOULD THINK THAT COHESION WOULD BE ENOUGH A
GOAL TO KEEP YOU GOING. THERE
IS A VERY VIABLE STRUCTURE BEGINNING NOW WITH
ALL OF YOU WHO WOULD BE
WILLING TO LIVE ON A REDUCED SCALE IN ORDER TO
FREE YOURSELVES FROM MAYA.
THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE ENDEAVORED TO BRING ABOUT.
MERELY THE COGNIZANCE IS A
START. THE DETAILS MUST BE WORKED OUT BY EACH OF
YOU IN A MUTUALLY
SATISFACTORY MANNER. BELIEVE IT OR NOT,
CONSENSUS CAN BE REACHED WITHIN THIS
GROUP. SOME WILL TAKE LONGER THAN OTHERS, BUT
EVEN THEY WILL EVENTUALLY
What about SS? She seemed interested but has not
S.S. WOULD BE A GOOD STUDENT BUT MUCH
ENCOURAGEMENT WOULD BE INITIALLY
NECESSARY. NOTICE THAT WE SAID ENCOURAGEMENT,
RC: I would like a comment on the possibility of
our selling our present
home and jumping right up to Oregon instead of
moving somewhere around here.
R.C. HAS A VALID POINT, OR ONE WHICH SHOULD BE
CONSIDERED. THE CHOICE SHOULD
NOT BE LIMITED TO ONE SMALL FAMILY. THIS IS NOT
PROGRESS: THIS IS
Are Goals set at birth? People who were in
concentration camps, would they
not go into sudden Retardation? If you are one
in Submission and suddenly
inherit or come by a million dollars, could not
this luck raise you to
another level, such as Acceptance?
PEOPLE WITH REJECTION AS THEIR GOAL SET
THEMSELVES UP FOR MISFORTUNE AND
WOULD NOT RECOGNIZE A GREAT SPIRITUAL TEACHER IF
ONE CROSSED THEIR PATH.
EROTIC LOVE IS FULL OF REJECTION FOR THOSE WHO
HAVE THIS AS THEIR GOAL. THEY
AUTOMATICALLY CHOSE AN UNSUITABLE OBJECT AS
THEIR LOVE OBJECT BECAUSE THEY
KNOW THAT THEY WILL ULTIMATELY BE REJECTED.
FORTUNES HAVE BEEN LEFT TO
PEOPLE WITH REJECTION AS THEIR GOAL, AND THESE
FORTUNES HAVE BEEN QUICKLY
MISHANDLED WITH BAD INVESTMENTS AND ILL-FATED
VENTURES, OR SIMPLY "BLOWN".
ON THE OTHER HAND, PEOPLE WITH ACCEPTANCE AS
THEIR GOAL HAVE MANAGED TO
AVOID TORTURES QUITE SUCCESSFULLY; AND THOSE
WITH GROWTH AS THEIR GOAL GREW
SPIRITUALLY IN AUSCHWITZ. THE ONLY WAY THAT A
GOAL CAN BE ALTERED IS BY
CONSCIOUS RECOGNITION OF BOTH THE GOAL AND THE
DESIRE TO ALTER IT WITH
POSITIVE CHANGE AS THE RESULT.
RH: Is this what we would call a "C" [cosmic]
WE THINK THAT WE QUALIFY AS COSMIC INFLUENCE. WE
ALSO FEEL THAT WHILE MANY
OF THESE SPLINTER GROUPS [from RB's Gurdjieff
group] DO PERFORM A VALUABLE
SERVICE (Richard asked if YS's was a "C"
influence group), THEY REALLY
INTENSIFY THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE MAINSTREAM
OF MATERIALISTIC SOCIETY AND
GROUPS SUCH AS THE ONE IN WHICH YOU ARE NOW
INVOLVED; I.E., THOSE GROUPS
WHERE THE TEACHING BECOMES THE PRIME MOVER
[rather than the teacher].
RH: I spent hours with NL and it is like she
cannot see the difference
between "C" and "B" groups. She thinks she will
be God-conscious soon. She
thinks she's near, through the Agni Yoga. Is it
because I do not have the
guidance when I'm talking with her or what?
NO, IT IS NOT YOUR LACK OF GUIDANCE — IT IS YOUR
LACK OF COURAGE OR
CONVICTION THAT DOES NOT PERMIT YOU TO POINT OUT
THE UTTER NONSENSE IN THE
HOPE FOR INSTANT "ENLIGHTENMENT". THE PATH IS
LONG AND STEEP. THE DIFFERENCE
IN THE TEACHINGS IS, OF COURSE, THE FACT THAT
THIS IS A LIVING TEACHING;
MANY OF THOSE ARE NOT. YOU HAVE FOUND IT
DIFFICULT TO INTERPRET THE
SCRIPTURES OF THE VARIOUS RELIGIOUS SECTS ON
YOUR WORLD. THIS IS BECAUSE
THESE ARE NOW DEAD TEACHINGS.
RH: I see NL's goal as having gone from
Dominance to Growth.
THAT IS VALID.
RH: Could we have a comment on KH. She was home
briefly for Christmas and we
enjoyed having her. When SC started working the
board, she became very
K.H. IS FACED WITH A CHOICE BETWEEN WHAT SEEMS
QUITE ATTRACTIVE TO HER AND
WHAT SEEMS SECURE TO HER. SHE EQUATES THE
TEACHING SHE IS NOW IN WITH A
SAFETY FACTOR AND, OF COURSE, THERE IS FEAR. ALL
OF YOU FELT THIS TO A
LESSER OR GREATER DEGREE WHEN YOU WERE THINKING
OF LEAVING THE TEACHING OF
R.B. ADMITTING THAT WILL HELP YOU UNDERSTAND THE
TURMOIL THAT K.H. IS
RC: I have a feeling that you should call KH and
give her your support.
K.H. MUST ALSO LEARN TO BE STRONG ENOUGH IN HER
CONVICTIONS TO WITHSTAND THE
"BARBS". HER POSITION NOW IS ONE OF WITHDRAWING
FROM AN AREA OF CONFLICT,
AND REVOLVES AROUND HER OWN FEELINGS THAT SHE
"SHOULD" NOT FEEL NEGATIVITY
ANY MORE, AND AS SOON AS SHE DOES SHE IS OFF THE
RH: Should AH and I stay together?
THAT DEPENDS UPON YOUR INTEREST IN RESOLVING THE
AREAS OF CONFLICT. IN OTHER
WORDS, THE DESIRE TO REMAIN TOGETHER MUST BE
WORTH THE CHALLENGE OF WORKING
OUT THE DIFFERENCES. IN TRUTH, THE RELATIONSHIP
IS MUCH HEALTHIER THAN MANY,
SIMPLY BECAUSE THERE IS A DEGREE OF HONESTY AND
SOME ROOM FOR REALITY.
RH: Was George Patton a Warrior, since he
thought war was the pinnacle of
GEORGE PATTON WAS A SECOND CYCLE YOUNG WARRIOR
RH: Is John Madden (an Oakland Raider football
player) a warrior? Is Don
Shula (a Miami Dolphins football player) a king
THE MAN WHO LEADS THE OAKLAND FOOTBALL TEAM IS A
MID CYCLE [fourth Level]
MATURE WARRIOR. THE MAN WHO LEADS THE MIAMI
FOOTBALL TEAM IS A THIRD CYCLE
[Level] YOUNG KING. THE TWO PLAYERS MENTIONED
ARE BOTH YOUNG SAGES. BOTH ARE
YOUNG, BOTH ARE DRIVEN BY THE GLAMOUR. YOU WOULD
ASSESS THIS MORE ACCURATELY
IF YOU WERE WITH THEM FOR ANY LENGTH OF TIME.
THE MAN DONALD (Shula) IS AN
RC: What was Vince Lombardi of the Greenbay
AN INTELLECTUALLY CENTERED MID CYCLE MATURE
Was Csonka of the Miami Dolphins a King? Was he
ever in a group?
THIS IS AN EXTREMELY SELF-AWARE YOUNG MAN WHO
FEELS THAT HE KNOWS WHERE HE
STANDS WITH HIMSELF, AND THAT THAT IS MORE
IMPORTANT TO HIM THAN HOW HE
STANDS WITH OTHERS. NO, HE IS NOT IN THERAPY —
HE DOES NOT NEED IT. HE DOES
NOT DOUBT HIMSELF.
Is his Goal Dominance?
CH: I sat next to a person at a party whom I
thought to be a Sage in
Submission. He was probably a Young soul level.
THIS YOUNG MAN IS A THIRD LEVEL BABY SAGE IN
RH: SG reminds me of a Roman gladiator. I would
like to verify if she is a
Warrior, Mature soul.
THIS DOMINANT WARRIOR IS A SEVENTH LEVEL MATURE
SOUL. SHE WAS NOT A
GLADIATOR BUT A CAVALRY CAPTAIN DURING THE EARLY
RH: Do Warriors who incarnate in females
sometimes have bodily qualities of
MOST CHOSE CIRCUMSTANCES WHICH WILL GIVE STRONG
BODIES, NATURAL INCLINATIONS
SUCH AS OUTDOORS ACTIVITIES, AND THE REST. WE
KNOW OF NO DOMINANT LADY
WARRIORS WHO ARE FRAIL.
RC: About once a week I have a strange encounter
with someone. People seek
me out to confide something to me. Last week it
was a maintenance man, named
George, who told me that he was doing
statistical research on cancer being
caused by a vitamin deficiency. He is sincere in
believing that he is doing
it for mankind. I would like to know if he is a
Mature soul, and if there is
any validity to what he says.
THIS MAN IS A FIFTH LEVEL MATURE SLAVE IN A
DOMINANT ROLE. HE SEES THIS AS A
SERVICE TO MANKIND, SUPERIOR TO THE ONE
[maintenance] HE IS NOW PERFORMING
SIMPLY BECAUSE IT RATES MORE NEWSPRINT. THE JOB
HE HAS IS PRETTY MUCH IN
ESSENCE FOR THIS MOVING CENTERED PERSON. NO,
LUNG CANCER IS NOT CAUSED BY A
SPECIFIC VITAMIN DEFICIENCY — IT IS MERELY
ANOTHER FORM OF SUPERIOR SUICIDE.
RH: CH and I attempted to type some of the
people at the party of eight
thousand people. It was not easy.
SOUL LEVELS ARE THE MOST DIFFICULT TO GAUGE IN
CROWDS. IN FACT, WE WOULD SAY
IMPOSSIBLE, SINCE THERE IS A DEFINITE CROWD
BEHAVIOR THAT SWEEPS THEM ALONG.
ROLES ARE EASIER, ESPECIALLY THE EXALTED ROLES.
THE ORDINAL ROLES ARE MORE
DIFFICULT. THE GOALS SHOULD HAVE MUCH MORE TO
SAY THAN EITHER OF THE OTHER
TWO [Overleaves thus far revealed, Age and Role]
IN A CROWD SITUATION SINCE
THEY DEAL WITH PRETTY OVERT BEHAVIORAL TACTICS.
RH: Ordinal Roles in Dominance are hard to tell
from dominant [exalted]
Roles in Submission.
MOST ORDINAL ROLES WHO HAVE DOMINANT GOALS CAN
BE BACKED INTO A CORNER BY
ANY EXALTED ROLE WHETHER OR NOT THE GOAL IS
DOMINANT. EVEN DOMINANT WARRIORS
CAN BE DOMINATED BY ACCEPTING OR SUBMITTING
KINGS [Acceptance and Submission
being the most passive Goals]. THERE IS
SOMETHING PATHETIC ABOUT A KING IN
RETARDATION. IT REMINDS ONE OF A PEACOCK WHO HAS
BEEN IN A HAILSTORM.
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