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December 30, 1973



30 December 1973
Oakland
Present: RC and SC, RH and AH, CH.
WE ARE HERE WITH YOU TONIGHT. TAKE A LOOK AT THE PROBLEMS THAT BRING
MILLIONS OF PEOPLE TO THE PSYCHIATRIC COUCH EACH YEAR, AND THEY ALL BOIL
DOWN TO ALIENATION. THE GREATEST ADVANTAGE OF COMMUNAL LIVING IS THE
ELIMINATION OF ISOLATION IN AN OPPORTUNITY TO GROW IN AN ENVIRONMENT THAT IS
PROTECTIVE AND NURTURING. IF YOU ARE CONCERNED ABOUT OTHERS TAKING ADVANTAGE
OF YOU, THIS SIMPLY MEANS THAT MUCH MORE WORK IS NEEDED IN THIS AREA BY YOU.
THEN YOU MUST GET TO A SPACE WHERE NO ONE ELSE CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF YOU.
YOU CAN BECOME INVULNERABLE, PARTICULARLY IF YOU STOP TAKING A LACK OF
ENTHUSIASM ON OTHERS' PART AS A PERSONAL SLIGHT. R.C. HAS MUCH WORK TO DO IN
THE AREA OF "BEING", OR BEING ABLE TO LIVE ONE DAY AT A TIME. HOW MANY TIMES
HAVE YOUR DIRE FANTASIES BORNE FRUIT, R.C.?
We discussed some of the problems each of us saw in living together.
THIS DISCUSSION IS A DEFINITELY POSITIVE STEP AND SHOULD BE CARRIED FURTHER.
THE SOLUTION IS NOT A PERMANENT ONE, BUT SHOULD GIVE YOU SOME IDEA OF WHAT
COMMUNAL LIVING IS ALL ABOUT. THE PRESSURES OF THE JOBS ARE IN THE WAY, BUT
HOW CAN WE CONVINCE YOU THAT YOU HAVE CREATED THE CIRCUMSTANCES AND ARE NOW
THROWING UP ADDITIONAL OBSTACLES. SOME OF THESE ARE VALID, BUT CAN BE
SOLVED. R.C. HAS A SYSTEM OF PRIORITIZING ASSIGNMENTS THAT CAN BE CONVERTED
INTO SOMETHING VIABLE ONLY IF THE PRIORITIES CAN BE MADE MORE REALISTIC: NOT
SO MANY "SHOULDS" AND "HAVE TO'S", MORE WANTS AND NEEDS.
We had more discussion of how to simplify our lives.
WE OFFER ENCOURAGEMENT. THE DETAILS OF THE BUSINESS TRANSACTIONS CHANGE FROM
DAY TO DAY. THESE DETAILS CAN BE WORKED OUT IN JUST SUCH A WAY AS YOU HAVE
BEEN DISCUSSING. WE SUGGEST THAT YOU CONTINUE TO DISCUSS IT IN THE LIGHT OF
LIQUIDATION OF EXCESS HOLDINGS AND DUPLICATION OF ENERGIES. FOR NOW, THIS
WILL BE AN ENORMOUS STEP.
RC: If Soleal comes, this is the only place with eight foot doors. Could I
have a comment?
SOLEAL CAN STOOP. HE IS QUITE ADAPTABLE, AND WE BELIEVE THAT HE HAS ALREADY
INFORMED YOU THAT HE WAS WILLING TO FOREGO SOME OF HIS LUXURIES.
We discussed where the fifty-member crew would sleep, and wondered if they
were as large as Soleal says he is.
THEY VARY FROM ABOUT SIX FEET SEVEN INCHES TO SOLEAL'S HEIGHT. HE IS ONE OF
THE TALLEST.
Is there a message for our group for the new year?
WE WOULD THINK THAT COHESION WOULD BE ENOUGH A GOAL TO KEEP YOU GOING. THERE
IS A VERY VIABLE STRUCTURE BEGINNING NOW WITH ALL OF YOU WHO WOULD BE
WILLING TO LIVE ON A REDUCED SCALE IN ORDER TO FREE YOURSELVES FROM MAYA.
THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE ENDEAVORED TO BRING ABOUT. MERELY THE COGNIZANCE IS A
START. THE DETAILS MUST BE WORKED OUT BY EACH OF YOU IN A MUTUALLY
SATISFACTORY MANNER. BELIEVE IT OR NOT, CONSENSUS CAN BE REACHED WITHIN THIS
GROUP. SOME WILL TAKE LONGER THAN OTHERS, BUT EVEN THEY WILL EVENTUALLY
VERIFY.
What about SS? She seemed interested but has not been coming.
S.S. WOULD BE A GOOD STUDENT BUT MUCH ENCOURAGEMENT WOULD BE INITIALLY
NECESSARY. NOTICE THAT WE SAID ENCOURAGEMENT, NOT PERSUASION.
RC: I would like a comment on the possibility of our selling our present
home and jumping right up to Oregon instead of moving somewhere around here.
R.C. HAS A VALID POINT, OR ONE WHICH SHOULD BE CONSIDERED. THE CHOICE SHOULD
NOT BE LIMITED TO ONE SMALL FAMILY. THIS IS NOT PROGRESS: THIS IS
REGRESSION.
Are Goals set at birth? People who were in concentration camps, would they
not go into sudden Retardation? If you are one in Submission and suddenly
inherit or come by a million dollars, could not this luck raise you to
another level, such as Acceptance?
PEOPLE WITH REJECTION AS THEIR GOAL SET THEMSELVES UP FOR MISFORTUNE AND
WOULD NOT RECOGNIZE A GREAT SPIRITUAL TEACHER IF ONE CROSSED THEIR PATH.
EROTIC LOVE IS FULL OF REJECTION FOR THOSE WHO HAVE THIS AS THEIR GOAL. THEY
AUTOMATICALLY CHOSE AN UNSUITABLE OBJECT AS THEIR LOVE OBJECT BECAUSE THEY
KNOW THAT THEY WILL ULTIMATELY BE REJECTED. FORTUNES HAVE BEEN LEFT TO
PEOPLE WITH REJECTION AS THEIR GOAL, AND THESE FORTUNES HAVE BEEN QUICKLY
MISHANDLED WITH BAD INVESTMENTS AND ILL-FATED VENTURES, OR SIMPLY "BLOWN".
ON THE OTHER HAND, PEOPLE WITH ACCEPTANCE AS THEIR GOAL HAVE MANAGED TO
AVOID TORTURES QUITE SUCCESSFULLY; AND THOSE WITH GROWTH AS THEIR GOAL GREW
SPIRITUALLY IN AUSCHWITZ. THE ONLY WAY THAT A GOAL CAN BE ALTERED IS BY
CONSCIOUS RECOGNITION OF BOTH THE GOAL AND THE DESIRE TO ALTER IT WITH
POSITIVE CHANGE AS THE RESULT.
RH: Is this what we would call a "C" [cosmic] influence group.
WE THINK THAT WE QUALIFY AS COSMIC INFLUENCE. WE ALSO FEEL THAT WHILE MANY
OF THESE SPLINTER GROUPS [from RB's Gurdjieff group] DO PERFORM A VALUABLE
SERVICE (Richard asked if YS's was a "C" influence group), THEY REALLY
INTENSIFY THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE MAINSTREAM OF MATERIALISTIC SOCIETY AND
GROUPS SUCH AS THE ONE IN WHICH YOU ARE NOW INVOLVED; I.E., THOSE GROUPS
WHERE THE TEACHING BECOMES THE PRIME MOVER [rather than the teacher].
RH: I spent hours with NL and it is like she cannot see the difference
between "C" and "B" groups. She thinks she will be God-conscious soon. She
thinks she's near, through the Agni Yoga. Is it because I do not have the
guidance when I'm talking with her or what?
NO, IT IS NOT YOUR LACK OF GUIDANCE IT IS YOUR LACK OF COURAGE OR
CONVICTION THAT DOES NOT PERMIT YOU TO POINT OUT THE UTTER NONSENSE IN THE
HOPE FOR INSTANT "ENLIGHTENMENT". THE PATH IS LONG AND STEEP. THE DIFFERENCE
IN THE TEACHINGS IS, OF COURSE, THE FACT THAT THIS IS A LIVING TEACHING;
MANY OF THOSE ARE NOT. YOU HAVE FOUND IT DIFFICULT TO INTERPRET THE
SCRIPTURES OF THE VARIOUS RELIGIOUS SECTS ON YOUR WORLD. THIS IS BECAUSE
THESE ARE NOW DEAD TEACHINGS.
RH: I see NL's goal as having gone from Dominance to Growth.
THAT IS VALID.
RH: Could we have a comment on KH. She was home briefly for Christmas and we
enjoyed having her. When SC started working the board, she became very
uptight.
K.H. IS FACED WITH A CHOICE BETWEEN WHAT SEEMS QUITE ATTRACTIVE TO HER AND
WHAT SEEMS SECURE TO HER. SHE EQUATES THE TEACHING SHE IS NOW IN WITH A
SAFETY FACTOR AND, OF COURSE, THERE IS FEAR. ALL OF YOU FELT THIS TO A
LESSER OR GREATER DEGREE WHEN YOU WERE THINKING OF LEAVING THE TEACHING OF
R.B. ADMITTING THAT WILL HELP YOU UNDERSTAND THE TURMOIL THAT K.H. IS
EXPERIENCING.
RC: I have a feeling that you should call KH and give her your support.
K.H. MUST ALSO LEARN TO BE STRONG ENOUGH IN HER CONVICTIONS TO WITHSTAND THE
"BARBS". HER POSITION NOW IS ONE OF WITHDRAWING FROM AN AREA OF CONFLICT,
AND REVOLVES AROUND HER OWN FEELINGS THAT SHE "SHOULD" NOT FEEL NEGATIVITY
ANY MORE, AND AS SOON AS SHE DOES SHE IS OFF THE PATH.
RH: Should AH and I stay together?
THAT DEPENDS UPON YOUR INTEREST IN RESOLVING THE AREAS OF CONFLICT. IN OTHER
WORDS, THE DESIRE TO REMAIN TOGETHER MUST BE WORTH THE CHALLENGE OF WORKING
OUT THE DIFFERENCES. IN TRUTH, THE RELATIONSHIP IS MUCH HEALTHIER THAN MANY,
SIMPLY BECAUSE THERE IS A DEGREE OF HONESTY AND SOME ROOM FOR REALITY.
RH: Was George Patton a Warrior, since he thought war was the pinnacle of
human achievement?
GEORGE PATTON WAS A SECOND CYCLE YOUNG WARRIOR IN ESSENCE.
RH: Is John Madden (an Oakland Raider football player) a warrior? Is Don
Shula (a Miami Dolphins football player) a king in dominance?
THE MAN WHO LEADS THE OAKLAND FOOTBALL TEAM IS A MID CYCLE [fourth Level]
MATURE WARRIOR. THE MAN WHO LEADS THE MIAMI FOOTBALL TEAM IS A THIRD CYCLE
[Level] YOUNG KING. THE TWO PLAYERS MENTIONED ARE BOTH YOUNG SAGES. BOTH ARE
YOUNG, BOTH ARE DRIVEN BY THE GLAMOUR. YOU WOULD ASSESS THIS MORE ACCURATELY
IF YOU WERE WITH THEM FOR ANY LENGTH OF TIME. THE MAN DONALD (Shula) IS AN
INCORRIGIBLE HAM.
RC: What was Vince Lombardi of the Greenbay Packers?
AN INTELLECTUALLY CENTERED MID CYCLE MATURE KING.
Was Csonka of the Miami Dolphins a King? Was he ever in a group?
THIS IS AN EXTREMELY SELF-AWARE YOUNG MAN WHO FEELS THAT HE KNOWS WHERE HE
STANDS WITH HIMSELF, AND THAT THAT IS MORE IMPORTANT TO HIM THAN HOW HE
STANDS WITH OTHERS. NO, HE IS NOT IN THERAPY HE DOES NOT NEED IT. HE DOES
NOT DOUBT HIMSELF.
Is his Goal Dominance?
YES.
CH: I sat next to a person at a party whom I thought to be a Sage in
Submission. He was probably a Young soul level.
THIS YOUNG MAN IS A THIRD LEVEL BABY SAGE IN SUBMISSION.
RH: SG reminds me of a Roman gladiator. I would like to verify if she is a
Warrior, Mature soul.
THIS DOMINANT WARRIOR IS A SEVENTH LEVEL MATURE SOUL. SHE WAS NOT A
GLADIATOR BUT A CAVALRY CAPTAIN DURING THE EARLY EMPIRE.
RH: Do Warriors who incarnate in females sometimes have bodily qualities of
men?'
MOST CHOSE CIRCUMSTANCES WHICH WILL GIVE STRONG BODIES, NATURAL INCLINATIONS
SUCH AS OUTDOORS ACTIVITIES, AND THE REST. WE KNOW OF NO DOMINANT LADY
WARRIORS WHO ARE FRAIL.
RC: About once a week I have a strange encounter with someone. People seek
me out to confide something to me. Last week it was a maintenance man, named
George, who told me that he was doing statistical research on cancer being
caused by a vitamin deficiency. He is sincere in believing that he is doing
it for mankind. I would like to know if he is a Mature soul, and if there is
any validity to what he says.
THIS MAN IS A FIFTH LEVEL MATURE SLAVE IN A DOMINANT ROLE. HE SEES THIS AS A
SERVICE TO MANKIND, SUPERIOR TO THE ONE [maintenance] HE IS NOW PERFORMING
SIMPLY BECAUSE IT RATES MORE NEWSPRINT. THE JOB HE HAS IS PRETTY MUCH IN
ESSENCE FOR THIS MOVING CENTERED PERSON. NO, LUNG CANCER IS NOT CAUSED BY A
SPECIFIC VITAMIN DEFICIENCY IT IS MERELY ANOTHER FORM OF SUPERIOR SUICIDE.
RH: CH and I attempted to type some of the people at the party of eight
thousand people. It was not easy.
SOUL LEVELS ARE THE MOST DIFFICULT TO GAUGE IN CROWDS. IN FACT, WE WOULD SAY
IMPOSSIBLE, SINCE THERE IS A DEFINITE CROWD BEHAVIOR THAT SWEEPS THEM ALONG.
ROLES ARE EASIER, ESPECIALLY THE EXALTED ROLES. THE ORDINAL ROLES ARE MORE
DIFFICULT. THE GOALS SHOULD HAVE MUCH MORE TO SAY THAN EITHER OF THE OTHER
TWO [Overleaves thus far revealed, Age and Role] IN A CROWD SITUATION SINCE
THEY DEAL WITH PRETTY OVERT BEHAVIORAL TACTICS.
RH: Ordinal Roles in Dominance are hard to tell from dominant [exalted]
Roles in Submission.
MOST ORDINAL ROLES WHO HAVE DOMINANT GOALS CAN BE BACKED INTO A CORNER BY
ANY EXALTED ROLE WHETHER OR NOT THE GOAL IS DOMINANT. EVEN DOMINANT WARRIORS
CAN BE DOMINATED BY ACCEPTING OR SUBMITTING KINGS [Acceptance and Submission
being the most passive Goals]. THERE IS SOMETHING PATHETIC ABOUT A KING IN
RETARDATION. IT REMINDS ONE OF A PEACOCK WHO HAS BEEN IN A HAILSTORM.






 

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