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December 25, 1973



25 December 1973
Present: SC and RC, AH and RH, EM, MAH.
WE ARE HERE WITH YOU TONIGHT. OUR WISH FOR YOU ON THIS MOST ANCIENT OF ALL
SURVIVING FESTIVALS IS JOY.
MAH: I would like to ask about a friend's Role and Bodytype. I think he is a
Priest and a Jovial type but I have no idea what his soul level is.
THIS YOUNG MAN, C., IS A JOVIAL, YOUNG PRIEST.
MAH: What about JV? I would say he was Mercurial and a Young Sage.
THIS J.V. IS MOSTLY UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF MERCURY, BUT SOME VENUSIAN. THIS
IS A SECOND CYCLE YOUNG SCHOLAR, MOVING-CENTERED.
AH: I would like to ask about [my mother-in-law] MAH's Bodytype. She seems
Lunar and also Mercurial, and how can this be?
THIS IS A LUNAR-MERCURIAL, MOVING-CENTERED.
MAH: What about PC. Is she a Martial Warrior, Moving, Mature?
THIS YOUNG WARRIOR IS MOSTLY UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF MARS, BUT WE SEE SOME
JOVIAL TENDENCY. THIS LADY IS INTELLECTUALLY CENTERED HARD TO DETECT IN
YOUNG WARRIORS.
RH: What is RB's Bodytype. I know he is Saturn. Does he have Solar
influence, also?
THE MAN R.B. IS SOLAR-SATURN, YES.
RH: He seems dynamic, and a strong archetype.
USUALLY THE [Saturnian] PROCRASTINATION SO MARKED IS ABSENT IN THOSE UNDER
SOLAR INFLUENCE. THEY ARE NEVERTHELESS SLUGGISH AND USUALLY INCLINED TO BE
MORE SLENDER THAN THEIR PRIMARY TYPE WOULD SUGGEST, EXCLUDING THOSE UNDER
MERCURIAL-SOLAR INFLUENCE WHO ARE GENETICALLY ROBUST.
RH: Is Nixon a Warrior? Is he Mars-Jupiter?
NO. THIS MAN, RICHARD, IS A BABY SCHOLAR. TIMOROUSNESS IS ONE OF HIS
GREATEST FAULTS. HE IS SCARCELY BRAVE IN ANY SENSE OF THE WORD. THIS MAN IS
MOSTLY JOVIAL, SOME MARTIAL.
RH: I would like to know about a doctor, HC. He moves slowly but
accomplishes so much. He jogs miles every day and is very fit, writes books,
acts in plays, and is one of the most imaginative doctors I know. He is also
attending law school and is coaching his children to be Olympic stars. He
seems like a Lunar, Intellectually Centered Scholar. What is the source of
his drive, and is what he is doing good? Did his children choose him for a
father for a special reason?
THIS MAN IS A MID CYCLE MATURE SOUL. HE IS INTELLECTUALLY CENTERED. THE
DRIVE COMES FROM HIS ROLE, WHICH IS THAT OF SAGE. WHEN WE DISCUSS THE GOALS,
THIS WILL BE CLEARER. HE IS VENUSIAN-LUNAR. HE ACHIEVES NOW VICARIOUSLY
THROUGH HIS CHILDREN A GREAT DEAL OF THE SELF-EXPRESSION DENIED TO HIM IN
HIS OWN YOUTH FROM EARLY TRAINING AND FALSE PERSONALITY. ONE OF THE CHILDREN
CHOSE THE MOTHER. THIS CHILD WILL BE AN ACCOMPLISHED ARTISAN.
RH: What is C's Role in essence? It is not academic learning, and he does
not use his hand much. He does love the out-of-doors.
THIS BOY IS AN ARTISAN, NEVERTHELESS. HE IS AT SEA RIGHT NOW, PRIMARILY
BECAUSE OF THE ADOLESCENT HORMONAL STORM, AND NOT FROM LACK OF TALENT. HE IS
ALSO SURROUNDED BY DOMINANT FAMILY MEMBERS WHO OUTDISTANCE HIM.
EM: Why was I not good in math? I don't seem to have the ability to grasp
astronomy as I'd wish. I received good grades in algebra and trigonometry
but could never apply it to anything practical.
BECAUSE YOU RESIST IT, JUST AS MANY OF YOU DO. MATHEMATICS IS THE LEAST
OBSCURE OF ALL CONCEPTS, AND THE ONE WHICH IS THE MOST UNIVERSALLY RESISTED.
THE UNDERSTANDING OF MATHEMATICS IS PERHAPS THE EASIEST OF TASKS ANY OF YOU
WILL EVER HAVE, BUT IT IS NEVER INITIALLY APPREHENDED IN THIS WAY. FOR ONE
THING, IT IS PRESENTED TO YOU AS DIFFICULT. THIS ALONE ACCOUNTS FOR MANY
FAILURES.
RH: Can we ever have RM back as a medium?
THIS MAN IS AN EXCELLENT TRANCE MEDIUM, BUT HE HAS MUCH FEAR. IF YOU CAN
COUNTERACT THE FEAR, WE ARE WILLING.
EM: Could you explain the Sermon on the Mount. I do not understand it. All
my life I've been asking people.
RC suggested that frequently we ask people who are more lost than we are.
We read at this point from Matthew 5:1-12 concerning the "beatitudes"
Blessed are the meek, merciful, peacemakers, they that mourn, hunger after
righteousness, the poor in spirit, etc.
SUBSTITUTE FOR THE WORD "BLESSED" THE WORD "FORTUNATE". THE EMPHASIS HERE IS
ON SIMPLICITY. BY "MEEK" WE DON'T SPEAK OF COWARDICE, BUT RATHER AN
INWARDNESS OF PURPOSE. THOSE "POOR IN SPIRIT" REFER TO THOSE WHO RECOGNIZE
WITHIN THEMSELVES THE LACK OF SPIRITUAL GUIDANCE AND SEEK THIS. THIS PASSAGE
IS WARNING AGAINST COMPLACENCY THAT HERALDS THE DOWNFALL, OF THE DEGRADATION
OF HUMANITY. THE "BARBARIANS" CAN BE USED SYMBOLICALLY HERE AS THE
MATERIALISTIC EXISTENTIALISTS WHO DENY OTHER DIMENSIONS BEYOND THE PHYSICAL
PLANE AND DEVOTE THEMSELVES TO THE PURSUIT OF MAYA. THEY ARE INDEED
UNFORTUNATE, IN THAT THEY INCUR MUCH ADVERSE KARMA. ONE MUST KEEP IN MIND
THE AUDIENCE TO WHICH THE MAN JESUS SPOKE, AND THE SCRIBES WHO WROTE THE
ACCOUNT, BEFORE PASSING JUDGMENT ON THE WORDS. THESE PEOPLE BELIEVED IN A
VERY LITERAL, VERY PERSONAL GOD WHO MONITORED EVERY MOVE THEY MADE, AND WAS
FOR THE MOST PART STERN AND DISAPPROVING. GREEK THOUGHT HAD MUCH INFLUENCE
ON THE MAN JESUS, PARTICULARLY EPICURUS, BUT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN IMPOSSIBLE
FOR HIM TO ESPOUSE THE WORDS OF THIS PAGAN PHILOSOPHER FROM THE PORTICOES OF
THE TEMPLE. THEN WHEN THE INFINITE SOUL MANIFESTED, THE LOGOS WAS BROUGHT TO
BEAR IN THE LANGUAGE OF THE TIMES, TRANSCRIBED BY A ROMAN TAX COLLECTOR
[Matthew] AND AN EMOTIONALLY CENTERED GREEK PHYSICIAN (Luke). EPICURUS HAD A
MOST PROFOUND INFLUENCE ON ALL OF THE PHILOSOPHY OF THE TIME, SURPASSING
THAT OF THE STOIC, ZENO. THIS PHILOSOPHY WAS MADE TO ORDER FOR THE
SADDUCEES, WHO ALSO APPEALED TO THIS YOUNG MAN'S SENSITIVE NATURE. THE
EPICUREAN THOUGHT PATTERN IS WHAT YOU ALL ARE STRIVING TO ACCOMPLISH.
We discussed how Jesus taught that the children of light were to have no
sex, and that if you want to grow in this way there would be no sex. Someone
suggested this might refer to a level above our physical one, and that the
soul is sexless. Someone said the Bible said there are no marriages in
heaven. EM then asked if Jesus really did work miracles, or if that was
imagination.
THIS MAN WAS AN OCCULT MASTER. THE MIRACLES ARE THERE FOR THOSE WHO WISH TO
BECOME MASTERS. MASS HYPNOSIS WAS NOT BEYOND THE GRASP OF ORDINARY PRIESTS,
LET ALONE ONE WHO HAS MASTERED ALL OF THE MYSTERIES. EVEN MOST ADEPTS CAN
PERFORM FEATS WHICH COULD BE CONSIDERED MIRACLES BY THOSE WHO WERE LOOKING
ON. MANY OF THE STORIES SURROUNDING THE BIRTH OF THE MAN JESUS WERE
CONCOCTED LONG AFTER HIS DEATH TO SATISFY THOSE WHO FELT THAT THE ANCIENT
PROPHESIES SHOULD BE FULFILLED.
Was Jesus really conceived without sex?
OF COURSE NOT.
What was his Bodytype? It has been said he was a Martial, and that his body
was perfect.
NO. THIS MAN WAS A MERCURIAL SATURN.
Does the "Occult Brotherhood" still exist, and can SC contact it? Are we
better off to read the Bible or just listen to Michael concerning the new
Messiah coming?
YES. THE BROTHERHOOD CANNOT DIE OUT. IT IS FAR TOO WIDESPREAD AND THE
BROTHERS ARE TOO CAREFUL. THIS IS THE MOST ANCIENT SCHOOL. THE BIBLE CAN BE
READ AS LITERATURE.
Could we have some information on the Rosicrucians?
SOME OF THE ROSICRUCIANS ARE BONA FIDE BROTHERS, SOME ARE NOT. IN THE
NEOPHYTE PROGRAM, THERE IS NO SCREENING; THE WINNOWING COMES LATER. THE
HEAVIEST CONCENTRATION IS NOW IN INDIA RATHER THAN THE MID-EAST, WHERE IT
FORMERLY WAS.
Are the brothers chosen because of their psychological health and strength?
USUALLY THEY ARE "CHOSEN" THROUGH TELEPATHIC COMMUNICATION. THIS SHOULD TELL
YOU WHERE THEY ARE ON THE PATH.
Could we have the Goals tonight, or is that the next Overleaf?
YES, THIS IS THE NEXT OVERLEAF, AND YES, YOU MAY HEAR THE INFORMATION
TONIGHT. THEY DETERMINE THE SUCCESS WITH WHICH THE ROLE IS MANIFESTED. THEY
DO NOT CONCERN FALSE PERSONALITY, BUT DO DETERMINE HOW YOU MOVE THROUGH
LIFE. GOALS DETERMINE HOW SUCCESSFULLY THE ROLES ARE PLAYED.
RH: If there is one Goal per Role, it wouldn't work. There has to be a
finite variety among men (and women and children.)
THERE ARE THREE EXALTED GOALS. THEY ARE: DOMINANCE, ACCEPTANCE, [and]
GROWTH. THERE IS AN INTERMEDIATE, NEUTRAL GOAL, WHICH FOR THE TIME BEING WE
CAN CALL STAGNATION. THERE ARE THREE ORDINAL GOALS WHICH ARE THE ANTITHESES
OF THE EXALTED GOALS. THEY ARE: SUBMISSION, REJECTION, [and] RETARDATION.
MOST ATTORNEYS AND POLITICIANS ARE THOSE WHO HAVE CHOSEN THE NEUTRAL GOAL
LAWMAKING IS A STAGNATION GOAL. ONE OF THE BETTER EXAMPLES IN HISTORY IS ONE
YOU WERE DISCUSSING EARLIER, ALEXANDER THE GREAT: A YOUNG MALE KING,
DOMINANT. HE COULD NOT FAIL.
EM: What is the meaning of Dominance and Acceptance?
WE THINK THAT THE ONE GOAL FOR ONE ROLE CONTROVERSY PROBABLY AROSE OVER THE
SIMILARITY OF SOME OF THESE GOALS TO THE [Role] ARCHETYPES. FOR INSTANCE,
WHEN ONE THINKS OF A KING, ONE THINKS OF POWER AND DOMINANCE. WHEN ONE
THINKS OF A PRIEST, ON THINKS OF ACCEPTANCE; AND THE SAGE, WITH HIS
EXPANSIVE OUTLOOK AND NATURAL EBULLIENCE, MAKES ONE THINK OF GROWTH. THE
INTROSPECTIVE SCHOLAR IS OFTEN THOUGHT STAGNANT. THE DEJECTED AND REJECTED
SLAVE PRESENTS A GRAPHIC ILLUSTRATION. OF COURSE, THIS IS NOT TRUE, FOR
THERE ARE KINGS NOW LIVING WITH REJECTION AS THEIR GOAL, JUST AS THERE ARE
DOMINANT SLAVES.
Are these Goals a changeable thing in one's lifetime?
THESE GOALS MAY BE ALTERED. HOWEVER, THE INSIGHT RARELY COMES. THIS IS WHY
PSYCHOTHERAPY SOMETIMES WORKS.
Are these Goals chosen for karmic reasons?
USUALLY THEY ARE, YES..
Do they change from lifetime to lifetime?
YES, THEY DO.
RH: Is my Goal Growth?
MOST OF YOU HAVE GROWTH AS A GOAL. THIS IS WHAT MAKES C.H. SUCH A FINE
SEEKER. R.C. HAS ACCEPTANCE AS A GOAL, WHICH ACCOUNTS FOR MUCH MANEUVERING
ON HIS PART. A.H. AND C. HAVE SUBMISSION AS GOALS. K.H. AND R.H.(Jr.) ARE
[chronologically] YOUNG. THEY HAVE CHOSEN EXALTED GOALS: K.H. GROWTH, AND
R.H.(Jr.), ACCEPTANCE.
EM: Is mine spiritual Growth?
YES.
Is RB's Dominance?
YES.
Is BK's Dominance?
BY ALL MEANS. D.C., TOO.
EM: How do we change Goals?
YOU MUST FIRST DECIDE THAT THEY NEED CHANGING. WE WOULD THINK THAT YOU WOULD
BE WILLING TO PURSUE THIS ONE TO THE END.
RH: Is IB's Goal Dominance?
YES. THIS MAN IS A POWERHOUSE.
Is T's Goal Submission?
B.L. IS DOMINANT, BUT HER GOAL IS ACCEPTANCE. M.A.H.'S IS ACCEPTANCE. V.H.'S
IS DOMINANCE. K.M., DOMINANCE. K.S. (slave) HAS A NEUTRAL GOAL. D.M.'S GOAL
IS GROWTH. L.W. IS A TROUBLED MATURE SOUL WITH A DOMINANT GOAL.
EM asked about his mother feeling the presence of spirits on her bed. He was
told last session that Michael would stop the spirits if they were annoying
her. EM felt that is why she fell and broke her arm, out of being frightened
by a spirit.
SHE IS AWARE OF ASTRAL VEHICLES. IF THEY ARE ANNOYING HER, WE WILL TAKE THEM
AWAY. HOWEVER, SHE SHOULD REALIZE THAT THEY CANNOT INJURE HER.
RH: I would like to ask again about my patient, LM, who is a King. Is her
Goal Rejection? (She is divorced and eking out an existence as a postal
worker, supporting children.)
ACTUALLY MORE SO RETARDATION, BOTH RIGHT. THIS IS THE WAY THAT THE MONADS GO
TOGETHER. RETARDATION BRINGS LITTLE SUCCESS EITHER IN HEALTH OR IN WEALTH.
RH: Then in the case of LM (who is a King), is it improper for me to try to
help her?
SHE NEEDS TO RECOGNIZE IT FOR SOMETHING THAT SHE CHOSE. ONLY THEN CAN SHE
ALTER IT.
RH: Would the Monad then be completed and OK for her to change?
ONLY IF SHE CAN ACKNOWLEDGE HER KARMIC RIBBONS. DON'T WORRY, R.H., YOU WILL
BE UNABLE TO PREMATURELY ALTER ANYONE'S GOALS.
EM: Have I had the same Goal in past lives?
YOU HAVE BEEN ALL SEVEN.
AH: Did I know Charles Dodgson (Lewis Carroll) in a past life?
YOU DID NOT KNOW HIM PERSONALLY, BUT HE HAS WRITTEN BEFORE. ALWAYS HE WAS
SATIRICAL. THIS MAN WAS A HOMOSEXUAL THIS PAST LIFE. THIS DID INFLUENCE HIS
WRITINGS SOMEWHAT, AS IT DID IN THE PAST.
EM: Was I Napoleon in my past life?
YOU WERE NOT NAPOLEON. YOU WERE A TEACHER IN VIENNA [at the time of
Napoleon], A TEACHER OF POETRY AND LITERATURE.
RH: Is DB's Goal Dominance?
NO. THIS YOUNG WARRIOR HAS ACCEPTANCE AS HIS GOAL. MOST PHYSICIANS LIKE THIS
DO.
RH: What about Dr L? Is his Goal Acceptance?
YES.
RH: What about Dr RS is his Goal Dominance?
YES.
RH: Is BH's Goal Dominance?
NO, THIS MAN HAS CLASSIC REJECTION. P.S.'S GOAL IS SUBMISSION. A.E. IS A
MERCURY-SATURN, ARTISAN, FIFTH LEVEL YOUNG SOUL, NEUTRAL GOAL.
RC: Our friend, H, is she a Baby soul? No psychotherapy ever worked for her.
This seems to reaffirm that her Goal is Rejection.
THIS BABY PRIEST HAS REJECTION AS HER GOAL, YES.
AH: Could you add something to help understand the Submission Goal?
THIS GOAL DEMANDS THAT YOU NOT ASSERT YOURSELF, AND THAT YOU CONSTANTLY TAKE
A BACK SEAT, DEFERRING TO THE OPINIONS OF THOSE AROUND YOU.
RH: I would like to verify if my feelings about a friend, FL, are correct. I
would describe him as a "big womanizer". He is probably Mercury-Saturn,
powerful. He was European downhill ski champion one year.
THIS IS A MERCURY-SATURN, MOVING CENTERED, DOMINANT, FOURTH LEVEL YOUNG
SAGE.
RC: Is SC's Role Dominance or Growth?
S.C.'S GOAL APPEALS TO HER LESS THAN IT DID TEN YEARS AGO, BUT IT IS STILL
DOMINANCE.
What is ET's Goal?
E.T., TOO, HAS SOME SECOND THOUGHTS AND IS MOVING TOWARD GROWTH FROM
DOMINANCE.
EM: Who explained the "Sermon on the Mount" to Joel Goldsmith?
THE INSIGHTS WERE HIS OWN.
SC: Is RC's Goal one of Rejection?
THIS YOUNG SCHOLAR HAS CHOSEN REJECTION AS A GOAL, YES. HE REJECTS B.H. AS
HEARTILY AS B.H. REJECTS HIM. THESE GOALS WILL AID YOU GREATLY IN YOUR
STUDIES. THEY FIT SOME OF THE OTHER PIECES TOGETHER. THE PUZZLE [of
Overleaves] IS NOW HALF COMPLETE.
AH: Will it go slower?
THAT DEPENDS UPON YOU. YOU CAN ALTER THIS GOAL ANY TIME YOU WISH.
SC: I would like to ask about Gaius Julius Germanicus Caesar: was he a young
Artisan with a Dominant Goal? Was that one of the things wrong with him? He
did such a lousy job, and many bad things happened to him he was
assassinated at the age of 29.
THIS UNHAPPY YOUNG MAN WAS A MID CYCLE MATURE ARTISAN WITH DOMINANCE AS A
GOAL. THIS YOUNG MAN WAS IMAGINATIVE AND VIVIDLY TALENTED. HE HAD SAVAGE
WIT, AND KNEW THAT THE EMPIRE WAS A SHAM AND A MOCKERY OF THE MOST
SACROSANCT INSTITUTIONS. HE WAS NOT CRUEL UNTIL HIS BOUT WITH
MYELOENCEPHALITIS THEN HIS POWERS OF ASSIMILATION SNAPPED. HE ALSO LOST
HIS LAST ANCHOR AT THE TIME HIS GRANDMOTHER, WHO COULD HAVE HELD HIS HEAD
ABOVE WATER, DIED.
SC: Was Nero Claudius really Augustus's son? Augustus denied that Claudius
was his son and couldn't stand Tiberius. Augustus had blue eyes; the boy had
gray. Augustus was short and Nero was tall.
YES, HE WAS (the son) AND THEY BOTH KNEW IT BUT NEVER SPOKE OF IT. WITH HIS
DYING BREATH, CAESAR AUGUSTUS ACKNOWLEDGED THIS SON, BUT THERE WAS NO ONE
THERE TO HEAR BUT HIS WIFE WHO ALREADY KNEW IT.







 

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