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December 20, 1973



20 December 1973
Oakland
There was an impression that the soul is entrapped in this physical body,
and I disagree with that answer, and my opinion was expressed regarding
this: there is one Infinite soul, and we are each manifestations of the same
soul, and I fail to see how the Infinite soul can be trapped in a finite
body.
ALL SOULS, OR "FRAGMENTS", AS WE CHOOSE TO CALL THEM FOR NOW, ARE OF COURSE,
A PART OF THE UNIVERSAL CREATIVE FORCE, WHICH WE CALL THE TAO. HOWEVER, WHEN
THIS FRAGMENTATION OCCURS AND THE PHYSICAL CYCLE BEGINS, THIS FRAGMENT IS
REMOTE FROM THE TAO, AND REMOTE FROM WHAT WE CALL THE INFINITE SOUL. WE
THINK THAT WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH SEMANTICS HERE. LET US USE AN ANALOGY AND
PERHAPS THIS WILL BECOME CRYSTAL CLEAR. IMAGINE THE ATLANTIC OCEAN AS THE
WHOLE; IMAGINE FILLING TEN TEST TUBES, THEN SEALING THEM SO THAT THEY ARE
BOTH WATER TIGHT AND AIR TIGHT; THEN IMAGINE DROPPING THEM BACK INTO THE
OCEAN. THEY ARE A PART OF THE WHOLE, YES, BUT UNLESS SOME OUTSIDE FORCE
LIBERATES THEM, THEY ARE REMOTE FROM THE SOURCE AND TRAPPED IN AN EFFECTIVE
PRISON. THIS SAME WAY THE SOUL IS TRAPPED IN THE BODY. THE BODY IS VERY
LIMITED IN WHAT IT CAN DO. YOU [EM is handicapped] SHOULD UNDERSTAND THIS
REALLY BETTER THAN THE OTHERS. THE SOUL IN ITS TRUE SPIRITUAL STATE HAS NO
LIMITATIONS OR HANDICAPS.
EM: What is my purpose?
WE HAVE TOLD YOU THAT A MAJOR PART OF KARMA FOR YOU THIS TIME REVOLVES
AROUND SEARCHING FOR TRUTH, IN SPITE OF GREAT PHYSICAL HANDICAP. THIS IS THE
MAJOR PART OF KARMA; THERE IS MORE. YOU HAD TO BE RELATIVELY FREE OF
EMOTIONAL ENTANGLEMENTS ALSO, TO BE FREE TO STUDY. THE STUDY IS NOW
BEGINNING TO REAP THE NECESSARY REWARD. THIS CAN BE A LONELY CHOICE, BUT ALL
SOULS MAKE IT OCCASIONALLY.
PJ: I would like to know about moving 3,000 miles away from here, with a new
job. I am going soon to look, and I should get over some of my negative
feelings. I am confused about how to do this work with my emotions, how to
best see things as they really are.
WE VIEW THIS WITH SOME TREPIDATION ONLY FOR THE OBVIOUS REASON THAT YOU WILL
BE TRADING A POSITIVE POWER AREA FOR A VERY NEGATIVE ONE. THIS IS PROBABLY
WHAT YOU ARE FEELING NOW, EVEN THOUGH YOU CANNOT SEE THIS AT ALL LEVELS. IF
YOU CAN CONTINUE TO SEARCH THERE AND FEEL FULFILLED SPIRITUALLY, THEN IT
WILL NOT BE BAD WORK. IT WILL BE EXTREMELY DIFFICULT IN THAT EXISTENTIAL
CLIMATE, ALTHOUGH SOME HAVE SOUGHT THERE SUCCESSFULLY. THEY ARE SPIRITUAL
RECLUSES THOUGH DURING THE LAST YEARS. THE CLIMATE THERE ENCOURAGES ONES TO
BE AS RATIONAL AS POSSIBLE. THIS WILL BE A SWITCH FROM THIS ONE. THE
NEGATIVITY COMES FROM KNOWING THIS ON A DEEPER LEVEL THAT VERY MUCH WANTS TO
SEEK. THAT AMOUNT OF FORMALITY WILL BE DISTRESSING TO YOU, AND THIS
INFLUENCE WILL SURPRISE YOU. IN SPITE OF YOUR BACKGROUND YOU HAVE MANAGED TO
BECOME VERY "CALIFORNIANIZED". IT WILL BE HARD.
PJ: Should I not bother to go and look?
THE LOOK WOULD BE VALUABLE FOR YOU. THEN IT WOULD BE TRULY YOUR CHOICE AND
NOT OURS.
ES: BT lives next door to a two story house that has a story about it that
it is haunted. Could we have a comment? The occupants are afraid.
THESE SPIRITS ARE COMPLETELY HARMLESS. OFTEN BABY AND SOME YOUNG SOULS ARE
QUITE ATTRACTED TO THE PHYSICAL PLANE, PARTICULARLY IF THEY DIE YOUNG OR
VIOLENTLY. THEY MANAGE TO PROJECT STRONG FEELINGS FROM THE ASTRAL PLANE,
ENOUGH SOMETIMES TO ANIMATE THE ETHERIC MATTER AVAILABLE. THEY BORROW THE
ENERGY FROM ANYONE AVAILABLE. IF THEY ARE TRULY BOTHERING YOUR FRIENDS WE
WILL TAKE THEM AWAY. THIS DOES DISSIPATE OF ITS OWN ACCORD.
ET: I have several questions here from someone else, DM. DM felt moved to
move to the east coast [but did not], and now because of what has happened
to her she feels like they should have moved.
WE DO NOT FEEL THAT THE MOVE WOULD HAVE ALTERED THE COURSE OF D.M.'S
DISEASE. IT ALREADY REACHED THE STATE WHERE SHE, OR RATHER THAT BODY, HAD
DECIDED. PSYCHICALLY D.M. WOULD BENEFIT, NOT BY THE EXPERIENCE, ONLY BY
SEARCHING. SHE BELIEVES THAT SHE WOULD. SHE WOULD HAVE TO WORK WITH SOMEONE
THERE JUST AS SHE WOULD HAVE HAD TO DO IN THE BEGINNING. IT IS IMPORTANT
THAT SHE STAY IN CONTACT WITH E.T. NOW. E.T. CAN HELP HER TO REEVALUATE HER
BELIEF SYSTEM. THERE IS NO REASON WHY SHE SHOULD NOT GO EAST. THERE IS
LITERALLY NOTHING TO LOSE.
ET: DM feels she will live for several decades, even though she has had this
surgery, and knows she has cancer, she felt as though she would live for a
long time yet. True?
D.M. CAN LIVE IF SHE CONTINUES TO EVOLVE IN THE WAY SHE HAS STARTED, YES.
E.T., YOU CAN HELP HER NOW BY HELPING HER TO REASSESS HER LIFE GOALS, AND
MORE IMPORTANTLY, HER FRUSTRATIONS AND THE MESSAGE THAT HER EARLY DEATH
WOULD CONVEY. THIS LADY IS MORE THAN READY TO ACCEPT SPIRITUAL COUNSELING.
ET: She wants to know if there is residual cancer. Does she [have any]?
YES, SHE DOES. THIS IS NOT NOW AGGRESSIVE, AND WE THINK THAT D.M. HAS MORE
OF A CHANCE TO COUNTERACT THIS AT THIS POINT THAN AT THE ONSET. THIS LADY
DOES NOT RECOGNIZE IN HERSELF THE SADNESS THAT SHE HAS. YOU MUST GET TO HER
SADNESS AND ALSO TO HER RESENTMENT OVER UNFULFILLED EXPECTATIONS. SHE WILL
TALK TO YOU, AND SHE HAS THE APTITUDE TO ACQUIRE THE NECESSARY INSIGHTS.
ET: One more question for DM: She has always had a red nose, and she would
like to know why.
ENGORGED CAPILLARIES, ALLERGIC.
ET: Now, I have several questions of my own, about books I've seen. I would
like to know if they are valid, and if it would benefit me to read them. The
first one is Oahasp.
WE ARE NOT AWARE OF THIS WORK. IS IT A COMPENDIUM OF A SORT?
ET: What about the Urantia Book?
WE ARE AWARE OF THIS. THERE IS SOME VALIDITY HEREIN.
ET: What about the Book of Truth Osiris? Were the writings given to the
author by a literal "god"?
THAT PART OF COURSE IS ABSURD, BUT INFORMATION IS MOSTLY GOOD. THE GOD
"OSIRIS" IS JUST ANOTHER NAME FOR THAT WHICH IS UNNAMABLE AND UNUTTERABLE.
THE ANCIENT EGYPTIAN'S CIVILIZATION WAS PSYCHICALLY FAR ADVANCED. THE
EGYPTIANS KNOW EXACTLY HOW TO APPEAL TO THE MASSES. THEY DID THIS
SUCCESSFULLY FOR LONGER THAN ANY OTHER CIVILIZATION. AMENHOTEP WAS A
MANIFESTATION OF THE TRANSCENDENTAL SOUL.
ET: How about a five-book set of work by Thomas Spalding, The Life and
Teachings of the Masters of the Far East? [These books tell of Masters who
lived for hundreds of years.]
WE ARE NOT AWARE OF ANY ADEPTS WHO HAVE CHOSEN TO REMAIN ON THE PHYSICAL
PLANE BEYOND THE ALLOTTED SPAN. HOWEVER, MANY ADEPTS DO STILL HAVE KARMIC
RIBBONS WHICH BRING THEM BACK FOR ANOTHER GO.
CH: Could you give us the "Goal" (next Overleaf), or one Goal? Is there one
Goal for one Role?
NOT NECESSARILY C.H. THE GOALS ARE CHOSEN WITH THE IDEA OF COMPLETING A
SPECIFIC MONAD.
Is there a different Goal in each life?
YES, USUALLY YOU DO [choose a different Goal]. THERE ARE SEVEN, AND YOU MUST
NECESSARILY REPEAT THEM, BUT HOW YOU REPEAT THEM IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE
CENTER OF GRAVITY AND THE BODYTYPE DETERMINES THE SUCCESS YOU HAVE.
Could you give me mine?
OBVIOUSLY, ONE OF THEM IS "GROWTH". THIS IS THE ANTITHESIS OP ANOTHER
[Retardation]. THERE IS A STABLE NEUTRAL GOAL [Stagnation], JUST AS THERE IS
STABLE NEUTRAL OBSERVANT ROLE [Scholar].
CH: Was it Tomas on the typewriter?
THE NAME "TOMAS" WILL SUFFICE, YES.
Are the Fragments RH, CH, LL, and RH's mother [MAH] part of the same Entity?
IT IS CORRECT THAT L.L. AND C.H. ARE FRAGMENTS OF THE SAME ENTITY. M.A.H. IS
NOT. SHE IS A MUCH OLDER SOUL. C.H. WAS FIRST BORN ONTO THE PHYSICAL PLANE
TO M.A.H., AT THE TIME M.A.H. WAS A YOUNG SOUL.
There was a discussion here about previous information tying in several
people into the same Entity.
WE DO NOT SEE L.L. AS AN OLD SOUL. L.L. HAS A GREAT DEAL OF PSYCHIC ENERGY,
BUT IS A FOURTH LEVEL YOUNG SOUL. EXAMINE HER LIFESTYLE.
This question is lost. It was a question about Tomas.
THIS ENTITY IS ATTEMPTING TO WORK OUT OF KARMA ON THE ASTRAL PLANE. THIS IS
AN OPINION [of his].
Is the entity of Tomas a young soul?
THIS FRAGMENT, IN THE LAST PHYSICAL INTERVAL, ACCELERATED BECAUSE OF PSYCHIC
GROWTH. IF HE CHOSES TO REMAIN ON THE ASTRAL PLANE FOR SEVERAL MORE OF YOUR
CENTURIES, GROWTH MAY BE SUCH THAT HE WILL BE REINCARNATED AS A FIRST LEVEL
OLD SOUL. HE HAS AN ADVANTAGE OVER YOU. HE IS NOT ENCUMBERED BY THE PHYSICAL
VEHICLE, AND THE MAN OF WHOM YOU SPEAK [Thomas Spalding] IS OR HAS BEEN IN
CONTACT WITH SEVERAL OF THESE. THEIR RECALL IS SPECTACULAR, AND THEY DO NOT
SPEND AS LONG ON THE ASTRAL INTERVAL AS DO OTHER SOULS, THIS ACCOUNTS FOR
THE TIBETAN THEORY OF THE FORTY DAYS BETWEEN LIVES. SOME ADEPTS DO THIS.
BODIES DIE. THE ORGANIC CONSTITUENTS BREAK DOWN EVENTUALLY, REGARDLESS OF
THE SKILL OF THE ADEPT. IT IS WISER TO CHANGE THE BODY. YES, READ THIS BOOK
[by Thomas Spalding]. THEY ARE INTERESTING.
There was a discussion here about Thomas Spalding. ET explained that the
books were written from information supposedly received by Spalding from
adepts.
ET: How about Alice Bailey's works, and those of Annie Bessant?
WE RECOMMEND THE LADY BAILEY. SHE REACHED A HIGH LEVEL OF SPIRITUAL GROWTH.
WE WILL BE HAPPY TO CORRECT ANY MISCONCEPTIONS.
There was a discussion here about Alice Bailey's writings, and one point
made was that she had a racial problem in her writings.
ET: I would like to verify a story told to me by HB, about a space ship, and
information from these people, with something like 45 billion souls on the
ship, who will act as missionaries.
WOW, THIS FIGURE IS ASTOUNDING. THIS WOULD VIRTUALLY DEVASTATE MOST WORLDS
WE KNOW OF POPULATION WISE, ESPECIALLY IF THEY WERE ALL ADEPTS. IT IS TRUE,
YOU WILL BE VISITED PROBABLY WITHIN THE COMING YEAR, AND THIS VISIT WILL
HAVE A PROFOUND EFFECT. WE HAVE ADVISED YOU OF THE POSSIBILITY OF THIS
CONTACT. THE MISSIONARY ASPECT IS HAZY. THE EXCHANGE WILL BE GOOD FOR BOTH.
ST: I wrote a letter to my parents recently, thanking them for their support
and help while I was working on a goal, and my mother wrote back and said
she knew all the time that I would do this, because when I was born I had a
"veil" over my face, and the midwife predicted great things for me. I would
like to know how valid these superstitions are, and if "omens" mean
anything.
THE SUPERSTITION CONCERNING THE PSYCHIC POWER OF THOSE BORN WITH A "CAUL" IS
A VERY ANCIENT ONE, HAVING ITS ROOTS IN BABYLONIA. THE PLACE OF SUPERSTITION
IN THE SCHEME OF THINGS IS SOMETIMES VALID, IN THAT IT ALLOWS POWERFULLY
PSYCHICALLY ENERGETIC SOULS TO EXERCISE THEIR POWERS WITHOUT DISRUPTING
THEIR ALREADY FORMED DOGMATIC BELIEF SYSTEMS. THE LADY IN QUESTION WAS ONE
OF THOSE. SHE USED A CONVENIENT SUPERSTITION TO EXPLAIN THE TREMENDOUS
AMOUNT OF PSYCHIC ENERGY SHE FELT. OMENS ARE DIFFERENT. THE OMEN VERY OFTEN
ARE GIVEN TO YOU AS SHOCK, JUST AS PRECOGNITIVE EXPERIENCES. THE OMENS OR
SIGNS ARE OFTEN ASTRAL, AND THE ONE TO WHOM THEY ARE ADDRESSED ARE THE ONLY
ONES WHO SEE THEM. THERE ARE OTHERS, SUCH AS DARKENING SKIES, ETC., THAT ARE
SEEN BY MANY, AND THE COLLECTIVE MIND FLASHES ON THE INSIGHT THAT WAS
COMMUNICATED.
[A page is missing here.]
. . . HAS ACCESS TO MUCH INFORMATION, BUT IS ALSO CHALLENGED BY MAYA.
RC: Is "False Personality" and "Maya" the same?
HE IS CHALLENGED BY THE GLAMOUR OF THE DIVERSIFIED BELIEF SYSTEMS, AND IS
ONLY ABLE TO DIFFERENTIATE BECAUSE OF HIGHER TEACHERS WHO ARE AVAILABLE. WE
DO NOT PREVENT THE DISSEMINATION OF VALID INFORMATION FROM THE ASTRAL PLANE,
BUT THIS IS MONITORED CAREFULLY, AND ATTEMPTS ARE MADE TO INVALIDATE FALSE
DATA. SOMETIMES THIS IS NOT POSSIBLE, PRIMARILY BECAUSE OF THE RIGHT BELIEF
SYSTEMS OF THE MEDIUM INVOLVED. THIS IS WHY WE ALWAYS ATTEMPT TO WORK WITH
OLDER [soul] MEDIUMS. THEIR CONVICTIONS TEND TO FLOAT MORE EASILY, AND IT IS
POSSIBLE TO SNEAK PAST THEIR BIAS.
EE: I would like to know the soul level and Role of my son, O.
THIS LITTLE BOY IS A YOUNG PRIEST. YOU HAVE NO KARMIC RIBBONS WITH HIM. YOU
WERE CHOSEN BECAUSE OF LONGEVITY AND OTHER DESIRABLE GENETIC TRAITS. THE
LITTLE BOY OF COURSE DOES NEED THE NORMAL INTERCHANGE BETWEEN FATHER AND
SON. IN THE CASE OF PRIEST, THIS IS QUITE IMPORTANT, AS THEY TEND TO [two or
three words missing] TOO MUCH OF A BURDEN. PARTICULARLY IN THIS CYCLE.
DESERTION BY YOU AT THIS TIME IN HIS LIFE COULD CAUSE HIM TO BECOME A REAL
CRUSADER IN THE FUTURE.
Could we have more on Roles?
WE WOULD PREFER NOT TO CONFUSE THE INTERCHANGE TONIGHT WITH CURSORY MENTION
OF ROLES, UNTIL THEY CAN BE DEFINED AT LENGTH. THIS STUDENT SHOULD HAVE
ACCESS TO PREVIOUS MATERIAL.
PJ: I would like to know about the manifestation at age 35 the
breakthrough that occurs then.
WHAT WE HAVE SAID IS THAT THE ROLE IN ESSENCE MANIFESTS AT APPROXIMATELY
THIS AGE. YES, SOME BREAK THROUGH MUCH EARLIER, PARTICULARLY IF THEY GO
THEIR OWN WAY EARLY IN LIFE. LONERS BREAK THROUGH FAR MORE EASILY THAN THOSE
ATTACHED TO LARGE "CLOSE" FAMILIES: THESE TAKE MUCH LONGER. YES, R.H., IF
YOU DO NOT MANIFEST AT THIS STAGE IT IS UNLIKELY THAT YOU WILL LATER.
HOWEVER, WE KNOW OF A FEW SOULS WHO HAVE NOT. HAVING YOUR ROLE MANIFEST AND
SEARCHING FOR ENLIGHTENMENT ARE QUITE DIFFERENT. BABY WARRIORS DO NOT SEARCH
BUT THEY DO MANIFEST. [On the other hand,] THERE IS NO MAGIC AGE FOR
BEGINNING TO SEARCH [spiritually] WE ARE NOW WORKING WITH AN OCTOGENARIAN
WHO HAS JUST BEGUN.
RH: RB told me I would not become conscious in this lifetime.
We tried to place BT as to Bodytype, etc. RH thought he was a Mars-Jupiter,
late cycle Mature Warrior.
BT: May I have my soul level and Role?
THIS IS A FIFTH LEVEL MATURE KING WHO HAS BEEN HAVING DIFFICULTIES ACCEPTING
SUBORDINATE ROLES. MARS AND JUPITER DO COME INTO PLAY HERE.
BT: During the war I was in an airplane with ten other guys, and we were hit
by enemy fire. The plane went down, with seven of us surviving. Why did
three of the men not get out? Why did I survive?
IT WAS PART OF KARMA FOR THEM TO DIE THIS WAY. YOU SHOULD HAVE SURVIVED, AND
WOULD HAVE EVEN IF YOUR [para]CHUTE HAD NOT OPENED.
EM: In regards to my last question: my purpose for being and karma, and
searching for truth but I feel I have failed.
THE DISCOURAGEMENT IS A GOOD SIGN. THOSE WHO ARE COMPLACENT ABOUT THEIR
STATUS ARE NO LONGER SEARCHING. THERE IS NO PLACE FOR COMPLACENCY IN THIS
SEARCH. THE REWARDS ARE THE DOORS THAT ARE OPENING TO YOU NOW, E.M. WE
RECOGNIZE THE FRUSTRATION. THIS ALWAYS ACCOMPANIES A PLATEAU STAGE. THIS
WILL DISSIPATE AS YOU GO ON TO THE NEXT FLIGHT. IT IS LIKE A LANDING ON AN
INFINITE STAIRCASE.
EM: I have a lack of energy after work, and have seen some television
programs on pyramidology. Is this valid or humbug?
OH, YES, IT IS VALID. DON'T YOU SEE THE PARALLELS IN THIS TEACHING?
EM: My mother claims from time to time she feels a spirit feels a weight.
Is this imagination on her part, or real?
WE ARE NOT CERTAIN. IT IS ENTIRELY POSSIBLE THAT SHE IS FEELING THE PRESENCE
OF ASTRAL ENTITIES. WE WILL FOLLOW OUT ON THIS. IF THEY ARE ANNOYING HER WE
WILL TAKE THEM AWAY.
Following this we had a general meeting, and began a general fund to help in
paying the costs of typing minutes, Xeroxing material, etc. We discussed the
initiation of a manual, to help new students understand the material. We
then asked for a comment from Michael.
THIS WAS GOOD WORK. THE WAY IN WHICH IT WAS DONE, OF COURSE, SAYS A GREAT
DEAL ABOUT THE MAKEUP OF THE GROUP. ALREADY THE CHARISMA HAS HAD ITS EFFECT.
AMAZING. THE GROUP NOW HAS MORE EXALTED SOULS THAN ORIGINALLY. THESE PEOPLE
BRING DYNAMICISM, AND CAUSE CERTAIN THINGS TO HAPPEN MERELY BY THEIR
DYNAMICISM.








 

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