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Present: CH, RC and SC, RH and AH.
Is there a general comment tonight?
WE ARE HERE WITH YOU TONIGHT. NO SPECIFIC
COMMENT. LET US BEGIN WITH THE
CH: Where does the conflict between [my sister]
KH and me originate?
THIS CONFLICT IS ONLY IN PART KARMIC. IT MOSTLY
STEMS FROM THE RACE FOR
POWER BETWEEN TWO STRONG, EXALTED ROLED [Young
Priest and Old King] SOULS
WHO LIVE UNDER THE SAME ROOF. SOMEONE MUST
EMERGE VICTORIOUS IN THIS CASE.
BOTH ARE DETERMINED, VERY STRONG SOULS. THE
STRUGGLE FOR SUPREMACY HAS BEEN
THE HALLMARK OF THE RELATIONSHIP. SO FAR BOTH
UNDERSTAND THAT THE POWER CAN
BE THEIRS. K.H., AT A DEEPER LEVEL, KNOWS THAT
SHE IS TO LEAD; C.H. ALSO.
AH [their mother]: Does that mean that "CH knows
that KH will lead?"
C.H. WILL LEAD IN THE SPIRITUAL SENSE. R.H.
[their father] IS CORRECT IN
SAYING THAT THIS IS AN ANCIENT STRUGGLE. COMPARE
THE STRUGGLE BETWEEN THE
CHIEF AND THE MEDICINE MAN.
CH: Can it be resolved in this life?
THERE HAVE BEEN HISTORICAL INSTANCES OF
RESOLUTION. THE WAY IS NOT EASY, AND
IN MANY OTHERS RESULTED IN EVEN MORE STRAINED
RELATIONS INITIALLY, BUT IT
CAN BE RESOLVED BY RECOGNIZING THE SOURCE OF THE
CONFLICT AND CAPITALIZING
ON SOME OF THE POSITIVE FACTORS AS A BRIDGE
ACROSS THE DEEP WATER. THE
STRUGGLE BETWEEN [Prime Minister] DISRAELI AND
[Queen] VICTORIA [of England]
WAS RESOLVED IN THIS MANNER.
RH: Was there a prior conflict?
YES, THERE WAS. THIS TIME IT WAS IN ESSENCE.
K.H. WAS A GENERAL AND C.H. A
PRIEST. C.H. WAS BISHOP OF COLOGNE. THIS WAS
DURING THE FRENCH REVOLUTION.
CH: I would like to know the soul Age and Role
and Bodytype of my friend,
VM. I would say, Old Priest, and she seems
Venusian and Saturn at the same
THIS LADY IS AN OLD PRIEST. SHE IS SATURNINE.
SHE IS NOT VERY NEAT, BUT THIS
HAS TO DO WITH HER LEVEL MORE THAN ANYTHING
ELSE. WE SEE NO VENUSIAN
CH: How about an old boyfriend, CC. I would
guess he is a Baby soul,
Mercury, and I cannot tell what his Role is.
THIS IS A FIFTH LEVEL BABY SOUL WARRIOR, A
CH: What about TD? I would say probably Mature
level as she tried to commit
suicide last week. She has freckles and red
hair, so I would say a Martial.
THIS EMOTIONALLY CENTERED LADY IS A STRANGE
COMBINATION OF MARTIAL AND
VENUSIAN INFLUENCES. SHE IS A MID CYCLE MATURE
SLAVE. A., (her husband) —
THIS BABY SCHOLAR HAS NO EFFECTIVE DEFENSE
AGAINST THE LADY'S DEMANDS. HE
RETREATS. SHE HAS NO DESIRE TO DOMINATE. WE
THINK THAT IT IS A POOR
COMBINATION. NEITHER IS FREE TO MANIFEST
IF BOTH ARE PRIMARILY IN ESSENCE, THEN TWO WITH
THE SAME ROLE ARE MOST
COMPATIBLE AND THERE IS MUCH COOPERATION. MANY
DO WELL IF THE EXALTED ROLES
ARE MATED WITH THEIR COUNTERPARTS IN THE ORDINAL
ROLES. SCHOLARS DO BADLY AS
A GENERAL RULE IN THE INTERPERSONAL
RELATIONSHIPS, BUT SOMETIMES [they] ARE
FAIRLY TRANQUIL WITH PRIESTS AND WARRIORS.
CH: I would like the soul Age and Role of my
boss, JM. She is probably a
Baby soul, Martial (she is chubby and neat).
THIS IS A THIRD LEVEL BABY SOUL, A MARTIAL SAGE.
CH: What about my friend, J?
THIS IS A YOUNG MERCURIAL WARRIOR, EMOTIONALLY
CH: What about another friend, DG: is she a
Jovial Slave, Mature level?
THIS LADY IS A FOURTH LEVEL MATURE SOUL, JOVIAL
CH: Could her mother be a Slave and she takes
NO, BUT A MID CYCLE MATURE SOUL LIVING WITH A
BABY SOUL. THIS IS PERHAPS THE
VERY WORST COMBINATION WE CAN THINK OF.
AH: Could it be that the soul level information
I have on my mother and
father are reversed? It was said my father was a
Baby soul. He had so many
problems, and my mother didn't seem to have any.
HE DID NOT RECOGNIZE THEM AS PROBLEMS. WE
REITERATE: THE LEVELS ARE REVERSED
FOR THE PARENTS OF R.H. AND A.H. NOT ALL MATURE
SOULS HAVE INSOLUBLE
EMOTIONAL PROBLEMS, JUST AS NOT ALL MEN OVER
FORTY HAVE CORONARY ARTERY
RH: CH communicated with a high astral body the
other night on the
typewriter. Could Michael communicate through
WE WILL COMMUNICATE WITH C.H. THERE ARE OTHER
TEACHERS WHO LIKE TO
RC: On December 17th at 2:00 PM, will a new
Messiah be born? (That was the
time BB said there would be one born.)
WE THINK THAT NOVEMBER THE 17TH 1973 IS THE
DATE. WE DO NOT WISH TO TRANSMIT
THE NAME AT THIS TIME. THIS DATE CORRESPONDS TO
THE DATE, OR RATHER, THE DAY
OF THE MONTH, THAT JESUS WAS BORN.
RC: Was Jesus a Scorpio?
RC: What astrological sign was he born under?
PISCES WAS THE SUN SIGN, GEMINI THE MOON, LEO
AH: Was I born in the AM or PM?
YOU WERE BORN IN THE EARLY MORNING.
AH: I would like to ask about a friend, CL. She
might be Mercurial, but she
also seems Lunar, but she is not shy. I cannot
figure her out. She is
probably a Mature level as she is somewhat
THIS C.L. IS A SOLAR-LUNAR, A MID CYCLE MATURE
AH: I had a strange "I" [expression of false
personality, in Gurdjieff
terminology], which appeared a couple of times
the night we had our last
meeting. Everyone left except SB and CS. I had
been working at the hospital
because of the hospital strike, and it seemed
that they were trying to keep
me up so that I would be so tired that I could
not go into the hospital in
the morning. I know intellectually that this is
not so. Is there anything
there in past karma for me with either of them,
as the feeling was strong. I
know I was also very tired from working at the
hospital the past week.
THERE IS NO NEGATIVE KARMA FOR YOU. THIS WAS A
FANTASY TRIP, A.H. C.S. WAS
VERY HIGH ON THE MARIJUANA AND WOUND UP LIKE A
TOP. THE ONLY RESENTMENT THAT
SHE HAD WAS DUE TO THE FACT THAT SHE COULD NOT
USE THE OFFICE EQUIPMENT AND
WISHED TO DO THIS. NEITHER HAS MUCH EMOTIONAL
TIES WITH LABOR UNIONS.
RH: When people act and look like a Warrior and
then are not one, how can
this be? CS seems like a Warrior to me, and so
does my daughter, VH, yet
they are both supposed to be Artisans.
NEITHER OF THESE YOUNG WOMEN HAS MANIFESTED [the
fourth Milestone]. BOTH ARE
STILL SMARTING FROM UNSATISFACTORY EMOTIONAL
ENTANGLEMENTS. WITH C.S., THE
MOST IMPORTANT THING IN HER LIFE RIGHT NOW IS TO
ESTABLISH A LONG-TERM
RELATIONSHIP WITH A MALE. WHEN THIS HAS BEEN
RESOLVED, THERE WILL BE SOME
RELAXATION. WITH V.H., THERE IS A MERCURIAL
DRIVE TO ESTABLISH AN
INDEPENDENT CAREER AND JUSTIFY HER EXISTENCE TO
HERSELF. IN V.H., THERE IS
CONSIDERABLE GUILT OF EARLIER WASTE OF
POTENTIAL. WITH C.S., THERE IS A
DRIVE TO COME OUT FROM UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF
THE YOUNG PRIEST WHO IS HER
AH: I would like to ask if my lips were sworn to
secrecy in past lives, or
what is the reason I find myself with pursed
lips when I wake up in the
middle of the night. My lips are sometimes
tightened and I have to tell
myself to relax them. Is there anything from
past lives here?
THAT IS VALID. IT IS AN UNCONSCIOUS GESTURE ON
YOUR PART, SEALING YOUR LIPS
AGAINST POSSIBLE DISCLOSURE. YOU DREAM A GREAT
DEAL ABOUT THIS, A.H., AND
THE PURSED LIPS ARE TENSION MANIFESTATION OF THE
AH: Was I sworn to secrecy?
IN THE DREAMS, YES. SOMETIMES IN WAKING THERE
ARE FLASHES OF MEMORIES WHEN
YOU OVERHEARD STATE SECRETS, NOT ONLY IN THAT
LIFE BUT WHILE PAINTING A
MURAL IN THE PALACE OF LONDON. THE MURAL IS NO
LONGER THERE. IT WAS EARLY IN
THE NINTH CENTURY.
AH: I would like to ask about C's ear. His ear
drum ruptured last August,
and he is still bothered by constant ringing. I
took him to a second doctor
to make sure everything was healing right, and
it apparently is OK. Why the
ringing all the time?
THE RINGING IS NOW MORE HABIT THAN ORGANIC. YES,
IT WILL RESOLVE. AT FIRST
IT WAS TRAUMATIC.
AH: I would like to ask about KH's finger. She
called her dad and was afraid
because it was paralyzed — she had played her
guitar so much.
HER FINGER IS STRAINED. IT WILL TAKE TIME TO
HEAL. SHE WILL AGGRAVATE IT
MORE. THE ONLY THING THAT WILL HAPPEN IS THAT IT
WILL BE SORE.
RH: Why do we chose the Roles that we do? Why do
we not all choose to be
Kings? I feel I am off the path. I have missed a
couple of weeks [of our
meetings] because I am on call [at the
hospital]. I have this emotional
difficulty. With the teaching, I should have
been able to handle it. The
teaching should have made a difference.
THIS SHOULD SERVE TO SHOW YOU THOSE AREAS THAT
NEED THE MOST CONCENTRATION.
NOTICE WE SAID "CONCENTRATION". THE OUIJA BOARD
WOULD BE THE BEST FOR YOU
NOW. THAT APPLIES TO BOTH _____ AND _____ — BOTH
HAVE IDENTICAL CONFLICTS
BUT ARE EXPRESSING THEM DIFFERENTLY.
How can we help others if we can't help
ourselves? I would like to ask about
spiritual materialism — that is, using the
powers of the teaching to draw
attention to myself. That is, using the teaching
for ego gratification to
get a bevy of females following me, like _____.
There is a conflict
HAVEN'T YOU DISCOVERED YET THAT ALL THINGS WHICH
ARE EGO-GRATIFYING HAVE AN
ELEMENT OF DELICIOUS CLANDESTINE GUILT ATTACHED?
THE EGO SEEKS INTRIGUE AND
ADVENTURE; THE ESSENCE DOES NOT. THIS IS WHY THE
MAN _____ COULD PLAY IT
STRAIGHT. HE HAD PERMISSION TO HAVE A FEMALE
FOLLOWING, AND THERE WAS NO
GUILT. THERE WAS ALSO NO EGO-SATISFACTION. THIS
IS WHY HE COULD NOT BE
SEDUCED — SEDUCTION WAS NOT A SUITABLE REWARD TO
HIM. WE FEEL THAT THIS
CULTURE IS AMISS IN NOT GIVING PERMISSION.
SOMETIMES YOU MUST GO AND ASK FOR
IT. THE PERMISSION IS SYMBOLIC, BUT SOMETIMES IN
THIS CULTURE, IT MUST
ALMOST BE LITERAL. IF MARIJUANA WAS ON SALE AT
ALL CORNER STORES, FEW WOULD
SMOKE IT — AT ANY RATE, NO MORE THAN SMOKE IT
NOW, AND A FEW WOULD QUIT.
Is there such a thing as spiritual materialism,
and is it bad?
THIS CONCEPT IS VALID, AND OF COURSE WE HAVE NOT
SAID THAT IT IS BAD WORK TO
GAIN FROM THE TEACHING. THE ONLY BAD WORK IS
WHEN YOU USE THE GAINS TO FEED
INADEQUATE PARTS OF FALSE PERSONALITY. THIS, OF
COURSE, BUILDS UP A
TREMENDOUS DEFICIT, AND YOU SLIDE BACKWARDS. IF
YOU CAN MAKE THIS NOT MATTER
SO MUCH EMOTIONALLY, YOU CAN TURN IT INTO
POSITIVE SPIRITUAL MATERIAL GAIN
AND BENEFIT THE LADIES AND STILL HAVE THE
PLEASANT FEELING BUT WITHOUT THE
I would appreciate a comment on my sharing my
insights with people who do
not seem to care or understand what I am saying.
It seems I am at a higher
level. Is this my ego dragging me down to a
THE WORDS NEVER FALL ON COMPLETELY DEAF EARS.
SOME LEVEL PICKS UP ON IT. YOU
MUST, HOWEVER, BE PREPARED FOR OVERT REJECTION
IN THE VERBAL FORM. YOU MUST
LEARN NOT TO ALLOW THIS TO THROW YOU FROM THE
PATH. THERE ARE BOUND TO BE
REPERCUSSIONS. YOU PEOPLE ARE DECIDEDLY
ABNORMAL, IF YOU REALLY WANT THE
TRUTH, AND YOU MUST GET USED TO THIS. IF YOU
WISH TO BE NORMAL, YOU ARE
PURSUING THE WRONG PATH.
I have to look in people's eyes to tell the soul
level. There is a nurse
whom I get a visual impression from and cannot
YOU ARE SEEING THIS LADY'S SOUL WELL. THIS LADY
HAS MUCH UNTAPPED PSYCHIC
ENERGY AND WOULD BE FRIGHTENED BY OVERT ATTEMPTS
COMMUNICATION, BUT CANNOT AVOID TRANSMITTING. WE
HAVE DISCUSSED SOULS AND
ROLES. NEXT WE DISCUSS "GOALS", BUT NOT TONIGHT.
WE ARE SPEAKING OF LIFE
GOALS, NOT THOSE GOALS WHICH IMMEDIATELY
FACILITATE THE UPWARD CLIMB.
It seems we have lost our aim with the ranch.
YOU MUST FIRST BE CONVINCED THAT THIS EXPEDIENT
WILL IN TRUTH FACILITATE THE
ACHIEVEMENT OF THE GOAL, THEN YOU WILL ACT
WITHOUT HESITATION. THE ESSENCE
ALWAYS KNOWS AND ACTS WITH OR WITHOUT THE
COOPERATION OF FALSE PERSONALITY.
I am in my head at the hospital, in Moving
Center playing golf, Sexual
Center in sex, but my Emotional Center is always
"playing background music".
The Emotional Center seems to pull in the
THIS IS THE SENSATION THAT ACCOMPANIES THE
BEGINNING OF THE MOVING TOWARD
HARMONY AND BALANCE. THIS SENSATION, HOWEVER
UNPLEASANT IT MAY SEEM, HERALDS
BEING ABLE TO BRING ALL CENTERS INTO PLAY DURING
ALL ACTIVITY, SO THAT THE
SITUATION CAN BE [intellectually] ASSESSED,
[emotionally] FELT, AND
[moving] ACTED UPON. NOT IN EVERY ONE IT DOES,
BUT IN YOU THE EMOTIONAL
CENTER HAS COME IN FOR THE STRONGEST BARRAGE OF
WORK. YOU MUST BE ABLE TO
SEE INTELLECTUALLY, FEEL EMOTIONALLY, AND ACT
WITH MOVING CENTER ALMOST
INSTANTLY IN ORDER TO BE WORKING OUT OF ESSENCE
In the Gurdjieff school, we were always supposed
to remain neutral and not
go up and down. What you wish to separate from
are all the peaks and valleys
of the false personality. The essence seeks
ecstasy. Is there mental illness
on Soleal's planet?
THERE WAS A TIME IN THEIR HISTORY THAT THE
INCIDENCE OF MENTAL ILLNESS WAS
ABOUT THE SAME AS IT IS ON YOUR WORLD, BUT WITH
VERY DIFFERENT RESULTS.
REMEMBER THAT YOURS IS A MOVING CENTERED,
MASCULINE WORLD. SOLEAL'S PLANET
IS AN INTELLECTUALLY CENTERED, FEMININE WORLD.
Is there a "myth of mental illness"? The
mentally ill seek out a method of
getting what they want. Psychotics get what they
THOSE ON SOLEAL'S PLANET TAKE A GREAT DEAL OF
TIME FITTING INDIVIDUALS WITH
ESSENCE ROLES. IN CHILDHOOD, THEY TEST SO
EXTENSIVELY THAT THERE IS LITTLE
CHANCE FOR ERROR, THEN THERE IS LITTLE
DISSATISFACTION. THEY HAVE AN
EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM THAT PROVIDES FOR EXTENSIVE
OBSERVATION OF THE CHILDREN
DURING ALL WAKING HOURS.
With the seven Roles, there are three leadership
ALL OF THE MASTERS OF THE COMMUNES ARE SIXTH AND
SEVENTH LEVEL OLD KINGS. BY
THE NATURAL EVOLUTION THERE ARE NO INFANT SOULS
ON THAT WORLD (Soleal's),
AND THERE ARE ONLY SEVENTY THOUSAND BABY SOULS.
I have not been able to contact Perisot. I have
only contacted him once. Can
I reach him again?
YOUR TIMING IS POOR. THEIR DAY IS MUCH LONGER,
WHILE SOLEAL'S IS A LITTLE
What time is best to contact Peridot?
EARLY IN THE MORNING WOULD BE BEST NOW.
Like two AM?
NO. WE WERE THINKING OF EIGHT OR NINE IN THE
MORNING. HE IS AN ADEPT. HE IS
A STUDENT OF MINE. THAT, INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH,
IS A DENSELY POPULATED,
EMOTIONALLY CENTERED, MASCULINE WORLD. THEY ARE
VOLATILE, EXPLOSIVE, AND
KIND ALL AT THE SAME TIME.
I read an article in a medical journal that the
homogenization of milk may
be responsible for the high coronary artery
disease incidence. The
homogenization of the fat particles allows them
to get into the blood stream
undigested. Is this a fact?
YES. WHY DO YOU DRINK MILK?
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