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December 13, 1973



13 December 1973
Walnut Creek
Present: PJ, EE (new), T (new), AH, A, SB, BF and RF, EC and JC, CH, CS, EM,
SC, ES. RF acted as organizer of the evening.
RF: Is anyone here with us tonight?
WE ARE HERE WITH YOU TONIGHT.
ES: My sister-in-law, E, has had a personality change, and would like help
from Michael in adjusting to her present state of mind. Does Michael have
any advice as to how she can handle this?
WE THINK THAT THE LADY E. WOULD BENEFIT BY FINALLY ALLOTTING A PORTION OF
HER DAY TO HERSELF. SHE CAN USE THIS FOR QUIET CONTEMPLATION, OR MORE
VIGOROUS ACTIVITY, AS SHE WISHES. RIGHT NOW THE SPECIFIC MODE DOES NOT
MATTER. IT IS THE SELF-KNOWLEDGE THAT MATTERS. SHE IS NOT WELL ACQUAINTED
WITH HERSELF. LATER THOSE MODALITIES SUCH AS MEDITATION WILL HELP, BUT FOR
NOW E. NEEDS TO START THINKING IN TERMS OF SELF. SHE MUST LEARN TO RECOGNIZE
HER OWN GOALS APART FROM THE GOALS OF HER FRIENDS AND FAMILY. THIS WILL BE
HARD FOR HER.
ES: My wife works with a lady who has a son with high blood pressure on one
side of his body, and low pressure on the other. Could Michael give us some
advice to help? It's sort of been thought he has some type of obstruction,
maybe aortic.
THE OBSTRUCTION IS NOT AORTIC BUT IS SERIOUS. IT IS CONGENITAL. YES, HE
COULD BE HELPED. PERHAPS THE MAN N.S. COULD HELP.
BF: What about my children, J and J.? I would like to know their soul level
and Role.
J.F. AND J.F. ARE BOTH MATURE SOULS. THE YOUNGEST IS THE OLDEST AT SIXTH
LEVEL. J.F. IS A WARRIOR, J.F. IS A SCHOLAR.
BF: Could there be a transmission error there? It seems backwards to me.
THIS MAY BE AN ERROR, THE YOUNGER BOY IS THE SCHOLAR.
BF: And what is JF's soul level?
FOURTH LEVEL.
EM: I would like to ask how long the strike at work is going to last.
THAT DEPENDS ON THE BABY SOUL WHO IS CHAIRING THE NEGOTIATIONS.
AH: I would like to ask about two men, Thomas Szaz, who seems to me like an
older level Scholar, and Claudio Naranjo, who seems like a Mature soul.
Also, I would like to know if Scholars, or older, higher ranking souls,
articulate better, or can get people's attention better.
THE MAN THOMAS IS A YOUNG SAGE. ALL SAGES ARE ARTICULATE, SOME MORE THAN
OTHERS. THE MAN CLAUDIO IS AN OLD SCHOLAR. SCHOLARS SOMETIMES HAVE
DIFFICULTY EXPRESSING THEMSELVES IN AN ERUDITE FASHION. THE KNOWLEDGE IS
THERE BUT THERE IS A MISCONNECTION BETWEEN CEREBRUM AND VOCAL CORDS.
AH: I would like to know if, when we "experience life", it is necessary to
incarnate into each Bodytype, each Center (Moving, Emotional and
Intellectual), and Roles. And then, if we don't learn something do we have
to go over the same thing again?
CS: Could we include astrological influence in that too?
AH: Well, anything that matters, that counts, yeah.
THIS IS ESSENTIALLY VALID. IT IS POSSIBLE TO EXPERIENCE ALL OF LIFE FROM ONE
BODYTYPE, BUT THE EXPERIENCE IS RICHER IF THE CHANGE IS MADE. MOST SOULS DO
CHOOSE DIFFERENT DATES OF BIRTH. THAT GIVES THE NECESSARY CHANGE IN
PLANETARY INFLUENCE. IT IS NECESSARY THAT LIFE BE EXPERIENCED BOTH AS MALE
AND FEMALE IN THE DIFFERENT SETTINGS. THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT FACTOR, AND
THE ONE THAT BRINGS THE MONADS TOGETHER. CENTERING IS IMPORTANT ALSO, AND
MOST LATE CYCLE OLD SOULS CHOOSE EMOTIONALLY CENTERED BODIES, AS THIS IS THE
CENTER EASIEST TO WORK WITH.
JC: I would like to know how long the Ouija board has been used, and what
other forms of communication can be used.
WE COMMUNICATE IN MANY WAYS WITH MANY PEOPLE. WE HAVE NOT BEEN IN A PHYSICAL
BODY FOR ALMOST FIFTEEN HUNDRED YEARS.
JC: Okay, and how long has the Ouija been used, and what other means of
communication are possible?
WE HAVE COMMUNICATED THIS WAY [Ouija board] FOR APPROXIMATELY ONE HUNDRED
YEARS. WE COMMUNICATE DIRECTLY WITH ALL THOSE [of our true] STUDENTS WHO
HAVE MASTERED THE SKILL OF ASTRAL TRAVEL. WE ARE WILLING TO USE HYPNOSIS FOR
INDUCTION OF TRANCES, BUT TRANSMEDIUMS [sic] WHO CAN GO INTO TRANCES
SPONTANEOUSLY ARE EASIER TO WORK WITH. THERE ARE DIFFERENT KINDS OF MEDIUMS.
BF: Can Michael tell us where other groups are located, and are working with
them? Would it be worthwhile to contact other groups in contact with
Michael?
ES: They won't give that to you. I don't think they will because it isn't
necessary.
E.S. IS RIGHT: WE WON'T. ACTUALLY, YOURS IS THE ONLY ORGANIZED GROUP VOID OF
SUFFICIENT BIAS FOR US SO TRANSMIT TO. THERE ARE OTHER STUDENTS, EITHER IN
VERY SMALL GROUPS OF TWO OR THREE INDIVIDUALS, OR SINGLE SOULS IN SEARCH. WE
ABSOLUTELY REFUSE TO GIVE ADVICE TO THE LOVELORN. THE LADY ABIGAIL
[VanBuren] DOES THAT ADMIRABLY.
T: Can Michael tell me why I have the feeling I have been in Spain or in
Moorish civilizations?
BECAUSE YOU HAVE. THE ROAD YOU REMEMBER WAS A ROAD CONNECTING TOLEDO WITH
MADRID DURING THE LATTER PART OF THE FIRST CENTURY.
T: Now that's interesting! I do remember a road, and buildings and things.
Can you tell me any more?
THE ROAD WAS A GOOD ONE, BUILT BY ROMAN ENGINEERS. PART OF IT IS STILL
PASSABLE TODAY.
EE: Could Michael give me my soul level and Role?
THIS MAN IS A SECOND LEVEL OLD SOUL, A SAGE. OF INTEREST IS THE FACT THAT HE
HAS ALWAYS ENJOYED THE OUT-OF-DOORS IN ALL PREVIOUS LIVES. HE HAS BEEN AN
ORNITHOLOGIST, A FUR TRAPPER, AND A MISSIONARY.
PJ: A. needs to know his soul level and Role, and I would like to know my
son E's soul level and Role.
THIS BOY IS A MATURE SOUL, FOURTH LEVEL; ARTISAN.
A: Could I have my soul level and Role?
THIS MAN A. IS A MATURE SAGE, SEVENTH LEVEL.
CS: What is so impressive about Sages? Why are there ooh's and aah's every
time we find out someone is a Sage? I'd like some more information about
Sages, and how to identify them.
YOU YOURSELVES DECIDED THAT SAGES ARE IMPRESSIVE. WE DID NOT SAY THAT. IN A
WAY YOU ARE RIGHT, SINCE THEY USUALLY MANAGE TO CALL ATTENTION TO THEMSELVES
DURING THE COURSE OF A MEETING. THE MALE SAGES HAVE A TENDENCY TO HAVE A
RATHER REGAL BEARING, SOMEWHAT LIKE A KING. THE LADY PHYLLIS DILLER IS A
YOUNG SAGE MOST COMEDIANS ARE.
CS: What are the soul levels and Roles of my sons T and J?
THE OLDEST BOY IS A MATURE SCHOLAR; THE YOUNGEST A BABY SAGE.
CS: Is there some type of automatic conflict between Artisans and Sages? Do
they not relate well?
MOST OF THE TIME THEY DO [relate well].
CS: Then why is there a conflict between the youngest boy, a young [soul]
Sage, and me (an Old soul Artisan)?
THE SOUL LEVEL IS IN CONFLICT. THIS IS A VERY BAD COMBINATION.
RF: Is EE part of my Fragmented Entity?
NO.
RF: I've been reading a lot of David Hume's writings, and I can't seem to
understand some parts of it. What I want to know is, if Hume is part of my
Fragment, then why can't I understand something I wrote before?
THE SEMANTICS ARE THROWING YOU OFF. YOU RECOGNIZE MANY SIMILAR THOUGHTS. YOU
MUST REMEMBER THE AGE IN WHICH YOU WERE LIVING THEN. STARTLING CONCEPTS WERE
INTRODUCED CAUTIOUSLY AND WITH MUCH RESERVATION, SOMETIMES CLOAKED IN
OBSCURITY, SO THAT THEY WOULD NOT BE RECOGNIZED FOR WHAT THEY WERE BY
HOSTILE SOULS. ENGLAND WAS AN ABSOLUTE MONARCHY THEN.
We all decided to take a break.
CH: Was it Michael I was getting on the typewriter last night?
THE ENTITY WITH WHOM YOU WERE COMMUNICATING WAS A HIGH ASTRAL BODY.
CH: Oh, then who was it?
THESE ENTITIES ARE CALLED BY DIFFERENT NAMES. THE ONLY REASON YOU CALL US
"MICHAEL" IS THAT WE INFORMED YOU THAT ONE OF OUR FRAGMENTS WAS NAMED
"MICHAEL". "GREGARIOUS", "EUTYCHUS", OR "MARCUS" WOULD HAVE DONE AS WELL;
ALSO "NAOMI", "BENJAMIN", OR ANY OTHER OF THE SEVERAL THOUSAND NAMES THIS
ENTITY HAS BEEN KNOWN BY IN THE PAST.
AH: Oh, well, isn't all of the knowledge [coming from the planes above the
physical] the same?
NO, A.H., THE KNOWLEDGE IS NOT ALL THE SAME. THERE ARE SOME "BLITHE" SPIRITS
ON THE ASTRAL PLANE WHO WILL WASTE YOUR ENTIRE EVENING IF YOU WILL ALLOW IT.
CH: I would like to know if I've ever been a priest in life. (Her Role is
Priest.)
YES, YOU WERE THE BENEDICTINE. THIS WAS A LONG TIME AGO. MORE RECENTLY YOU
WERE AT THE HOSPICE OF SAINT BERNARD.
CH: What information can Michael give me about previous lives as a
philosophy teacher?
YOU TAUGHT IN THE BEST [schools]. THERE WERE TWO SCHOOLS PROMINENT AT THE
TIME: THE PYTHAGOREAN, AND THE ARISTOTELIAN. YOU WERE ASSOCIATED WITH THE
FORMER, WHICH WAS ANOTHER OCCUPATION IN ESSENCE FOR YOU, AS THE PYTHAGOREAN
SCHOOL IS CONCERNED WITH THE HEALTH OF THE SOUL. THE CITY WAS THEBES.
CH: Can I ask what my name was?
THEODORUS EPIPHANOS.
EC: Could I ask for the soul level and Role of a friend of mine, J, and find
out about her previous lives?
THIS LADY IS A THIRD LEVEL YOUNG SOUL, A SCHOLAR. SHE HAS BEEN A TEACHER,
AND SHE HAS BEEN A DAIRY FARMER IN HOLLAND. SHE WAS ONE OF THE ORIGINATORS
OF THE GUERNSEY CATTLE. THEY WERE LATER TRANSPORTED TO BRITAIN.
SB: I've been having a lot more insights lately, and psychic experiences,
and I'd like to know the cause.
YOU ARE MAKING SOME PROGRESS.
SB: I just finished reading a book about Christ's time, and I was identified
with the period of time, and Him, and with St. Luke's mother. Was I around
at that time?
YOU WERE AROUND. THE REASON THE IDENTIFICATION IS SO STRONG IS BECAUSE YOU
LIVED IN ANTIOCH. THE DEJA VU IS FOR THE CITY, NOT THE LADY, EXCEPT YOU WERE
ALSO AN EXPATRIATE. WE REALLY HATE TO SAY THIS, BUT [you were] A GREEK.
A: I would like to ask if I should continue living in my present dichotomy,
or change my life style and pattern?
IF YOU DO NOT MAKE A CHANGE SOONER OR LATER, YOU WILL MAKE THE TRANSITION
WITH THE SPLIT INTACT. HOWEVER, THIS IS NOT NECESSARILY WRONG WORK. YOU LEAD
AN INTERESTING LIFE, A. YOU HAVE NOT BEEN WITH US BEFORE, BUT KNOW NOW THAT
ALL CHOICES MUST ULTIMATELY BE MADE BY YOU. WE WOULD SAY THAT YOU SHOULD BE
GOVERNED IN THIS MATTER BY INTUITION RATHER THAN LOGIC.
BF: I would like to know the soul level and Role of my brother, C. Also, I
would like to know the reason for our conflicts during teen and adult years.
THE CONFLICT HAS LITTLE TO DO WITH ROLES. THIS MAN IS BOUND TO YOU BOTH BY
KARMA AND BY THE FACT THAT YOU ARE FRAGMENTS OF THE SAME ENTITY. THIS HAS
GIVEN THE SO-CALLED "TWIN SOUL" PHENOMENON. YOU WOULD FEEL THIS LACK. THIS
MAN IS NOW UNABLE TO GIVE. HE HAS IN THE PAST. THE PROBLEM HAS ALWAYS BEEN
ONE OF NONRECIPROCAL EMOTION BETWEEN THESE TWO FRAGMENTS. THIS HAS CAUSED
THEM TO BE BORN AGAIN AND AGAIN WITHIN THE SAME FAMILY, WHICH IS EXCEEDINGLY
RARE. THIS RELATIONSHIP CAN ONLY CHANGE WITH INSIGHT ON HIS PART, AND WE
DOUBT IT [will happen]. THIS PLAY MAY HAVE TO BE REPEATED ANOTHER TIME, FOR
THE DESIRE WILL REMAIN UNFULFILLED AGAIN.
BF: What is C's soul level and Role?
THIS MAN, LIKE YOU, IS AN ARTISAN OUT OF ESSENCE. HE IS A SIXTH LEVEL MATURE
SOUL.
PJ: Have T and I lived together before? Do we share any Fragments?
YOU ARE NOT FRAGMENTS OF THE SAME ENTITY, BUT T. HAS BEEN WITH YOU ALL
BEFORE. THIS IS WHY YOU ARE ALL ATTRACTED TO EACH OTHER.
RF: Have we all lived together before?
THAT ATTRACTION IS SOMETIMES NOT POSITIVE, BUT IS THERE NEVERTHELESS. IT
KEEPS YOU COMING BACK AGAIN AND AGAIN.
PJ: Where were we all together before, and when?
R.H. AND R.C., S.T AND S.B., S.C., A.H., P.J., C.S., E.S., YOUNG R.H.[Jr.],
K.H., AND D.C. WERE TOGETHER IN BABYLONIA; THEN B.F. AND R.F JOINED UP IN
ROME. E.C. WAS ALSO ALIVE AT THAT TIME. SOME OF YOU WERE IN SYRIA-PALESTINE,
AND SOME IN ROME. T. WAS WITH YOU FOR THE FIRST TIME IN PORTUGAL, AS WAS
E.M.. C.H. AND M.H. WERE FIRST WITH YOU IN ROME, E.T. IN ROME, AND IN
SYRIA-PALESTINE WITH THE OTHERS. MOST OF YOU WERE IN FRANCE AT THE LAST OF
THE EIGHTEENTH CENTURY, EXCEPT FOR R.F., WHO WAS ACROSS THE CHANNEL, AND
B.F.
EM: I would like to know what happened to the Mayans; and if there was an
Atlantis, what happened to the civilization?
LIKE ALL OTHER GREAT CIVILIZATIONS, THE MAYAN'S BECAME COMPLACENT IN THEIR
SUPERIORITY, AND ALLOWED THEMSELVES TO BE CONQUERED BY BARBARIANS WHO DID
NOT APPRECIATE THEIR PHILOSOPHY OR THEIR ASTRONOMY, BUT DID LIKE THEIR GOLD.
YES, E.M., THERE WAS AN ATLANTIS. NATURAL DISASTERS DESTROYED BOTH THE
ATLANTIC AND PACIFIC CIVILIZATIONS, FIFTY AND THIRTY THOUSAND YEARS AGO,
RESPECTIVELY
EM: What happened to Atlantis?
VOLCANIC ERUPTIONS AND TIDAL WAVES.
JC: I was told I was the Mayor of Orleans at the time of Joan of Arc. Did I
have anything to do with her trial and execution?
OH, YES, YOU WERE VERY MUCH INVOLVED, EVEN IF YOU WERE ONLY A TOWN OFFICIAL.
YOU FOLLOWED HER CAREER WITH GREAT INTEREST, AND WHEN INQUIRIES WERE MADE BY
THE INTERROGATORS, YOU SUPPLIED THEM ALL OF THE INFORMATION CONCERNING HER
EARLIER YEARS. YOU FELT THAT SHE HAD BEEN SCANDALOUS IN HER BEHAVIOR, AND
ATTRIBUTED IT TO HER BEING A PEASANT AND OF ROUGH STOCK.
ES: I have been reluctant to get involved in the extra-consciousness,
out-of-body experience phenomenon. Is this from fear?
IT IS MERELY THE SAME OLD FEAR OF THE UNKNOWN. FOR ONE THING, E.S., YOU ARE
NOT TOO SURE THAT YOU EVEN BELIEVE IN ASTRAL PROJECTION. YOU DO NOT NEED
THIS EXPERIENCE. IT WOULD BE INTERESTING, AND ALSO EXHILARATING, BUT WE
REPEAT: IT IS NOT IMPERATIVE THAT YOU DO THIS.
T: I would like to know more about the roads to Madrid, and what fire has to
do with my past lives
FIRE CAME LATER, AT THE TIME THAT MOST OF YOU WERE LIVING IN SPAIN AND
PORTUGAL. THIS WAS A COMMON PUNISHMENT FOR ESPOUSING UNPOPULAR RELIGIOUS
BELIEFS. YOUR SISTER WAS AMONG THE VICTIMS OF THE INQUISITION.
The meeting ended at this point, and CS worked the Ouija board, for SC to
ask questions. CH, SB, AH, SC and CS were still present.
SC: I had a very vivid dream a week or so ago, in which this young man, who
was very serious looking, not handsome, but clear-appearing male, spoke to
me, and said, "Don't believe what history said about me". I would like to
know if my impression of who this was is correct; and also, if history is
right. (Her impression was that the man was Julius Germanicus Gaicus.)
THIS IS THE PROPER NAME FOR THE FRAGMENT AT THAT TIME. THE "DREAM" YOU HAD
WAS NOT A DREAM. HAD ANYONE SEEN YOU AT THE TIME OF THE VISION, YOUR EYES
WERE OPEN. YOU SHOULD EXPERIENCE THIS MORE OFTEN NOW THAT YOU RECOGNIZE IT
FOR WHAT IT IS. GOOD WORK IS IN THE MAKING. THERE ARE SEVERAL OTHER SOULS
WHO ARE ATTEMPTING TO COMMUNICATE WITH YOU IN ORDER TO IMPART THEIR STORIES
TO YOU. YOU WILL BE QUITE BUSY WITH ALL OF THIS WRITING. DO NOT ATTEMPT TO
VALIDATE TOO MUCH OF THE INFORMATION. IT CANNOT BE RESEARCHED, BECAUSE
HISTORY HAS NOT ALWAYS BEEN ACCURATE, AS YOU HAVE SEEN. NOT UNTIL LATER WILL
THE TRUTH BE KNOWN. YOU WILL BE RECEIVING MUCH INFORMATION FROM SPIRIT
GUIDES. THEY WILL HELP YOU COMMUNICATE THE MESSAGE YOU WISH TO GIVE OTHERS.
THERE MAY BE SOME DIFFICULTY WITH PUBLICATION AT FIRST, AND THEN CONTROLS
WILL BEGIN AND THINGS WILL ROLL ALONG. YOU SHOULD HEAR REGARDING YOUR OTHER
BOOK. THIS WILL BE GOOD WORK ALSO. THE MESSAGE FROM THE PUBLISHER WILL BE
GOOD. POSITIVE VIBRATIONS ARE EXUDING FROM YOU NOW, AND SHOULD CONTINUE.
THEREFORE, YOUR IMMEDIATE FUTURE IS EXTREMELY ENHANCING. YOU CAN DO ONLY
RIGHT FOR THE NEXT SIX MONTHS.
SC: Did Livia poison all of the people that historians claim? I just can't
accept all of that about this little old lady for some reason.
NO, THE HISTORIANS ARE REACHING A LONG WAY ON THAT ONE. THERE WAS ANOTHER
FEMALE WHO DID POISON THREE. THE OTHERS WERE COINCIDENTAL BECAUSE OF OTHER
KARMIC INFLUENCES. ONE DIED OF CORONARY OCCLUSION AND TWO DIED OF CHOLERA.
THESE WERE BELIEVED TO BE POISONING. AUTOPSIES WERE NOT PERFORMED BECAUSE OF
POLITICAL MANAGEMENT AND INFLUENCES TO CONDEMN THE LADY IN QUESTION.








 

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