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 September 4, 1973




04 September 1973

WE ARE WITH YOU TONIGHT.

RC: Are there any general comments?

WE HAVE NO GENERAL COMMENTS. WE FEEL THAT THE VERBALIZATION OF THOSE PRESSING QUESTIONS IS GOOD WORK. WE HAVE CHOSEN TO WORK WITH YOU BECAUSE WE SENSE IN YOU READINESS TO ASSIMILATE THE TYPE OF DATA BEING TRANSMITTED.

RH: My patients have headaches and I have no inkling of why they have chronic ones. Some I just don't understand at all. I can't figure out why they have headaches all the time.

HEADACHES ARE REPRESSED EMOTIONS. MANY THINGS CAN BE SAID THROUGH THE PAINFUL HEAD. MOST FREQUENTLY A WEARINESS OF THE BODY COUPLED WITH A BORED, TRAPPED ESSENCE WILL PRODUCE THE WORST HEADACHE. YOUNG SOULS FREQUENTLY HAVE MIGRAINE HEADACHES. THEY DO NOT ATTEMPT TO UNDERSTAND THE TREADMILL THEY ARE ON. MATURE SOULS FREQUENTLY HAVE TENSION HEADACHES FROM BEING SURROUNDED BY UNCOMFORTABLE SOULS ALL DAY. MATURE SOULS IN CLOSE CONTACT WITH BABY SOULS AND MANY YOUNG SOULS TEND TO HAVE THE MOST FREQUENT AND SEVERE HEADACHES. YOU CAN TREAT THEIR HEADACHES BY HELPING THEM SEE THE SOURCE. WITH YOUNG SOULS, YOU CAN ONLY TREAT THE PAIN.

AH: How old a soul am I?

A.H. IS A SECOND LEVEL OLDER SOUL. [This is the first mention in these transcriptions of "Levels" in a soul Age. I don't have the first session where the seven levels may have been originally described.]

RH: In treating allergy is there distinctions of Young and Old souls? Is there some way to get to repressed emotions? R.B. used to say the Bible had keys to understanding the words. With Christ it may have not actually been "healing". When He made the blind man see, the Bible may have been using esoteric terms. Is this interpretation correct?

THOSE PARABLES ARE TRUE AS YOU EXPRESSED THEM. JESUS WAS ALSO ABLE TO CALM THE HYSTERICAL [psychosomatic] BY HIS PRESENCE ALONE. THERE IS A CLEAR-CUT CASE OF GLOBUS HYSTERICUS IN THE BIBLE. THIS IS NOT AN ORGANIC DISEASE [it is a psychosomatic one]. YOU COULD LEARN TO DIFFERENTIATE IN THIS WAY. THE PEOPLE THEN WERE SUPERSTITIOUS. IT WAS EASIER TO TALK THEM OUT OF THEIR DEMONS. THERE WAS ALSO A CASE OF HYSTERICAL [psychosomatic] PARALYSIS.

RH: Perhaps they mean the man they lowered through the roof in order to see Christ, and the woman who menstruated for eight years.

SC: The wording is so ambiguous, it would be hard to know for sure that's what they had.

IT IS DOUBTFUL THAT ANYONE COULD SURVIVE IF THEY BLED REALLY FOR THAT LONG. THIS PARTICULAR PROBLEM IS SYMBOLIC OF SEXUAL PROBLEMS IN GENERAL, MOST OF WHICH ARE HYSTERICAL [psychosomatic]. MANY WOMEN DO CAUSE PROLONGED UTERINE BLEEDING THROUGH THEIR FEELINGS OF REJECTION AND GUILT. IF THE BLEEDER IS A MATURE SOUL, YOU CAN HELP THEM BY HELPING THEM TO SEE THE SOURCE. OTHERWISE, YOU MAY HAVE TO REMOVE THE UTERUS. HOW THEY REACT TO YOUR SUGGESTION THAT THERE IS NOTHING ORGANICALLY WRONG SHOULD GIVE YOU A CLUE TO THE CYCLE.

RH: Are you aware of modern medical methods?

YES.

RH: Why are there so many diseases? God made a perfect organism and caused so many diseases.

ONLY FALSE PERSONALITY IS SUSCEPTIBLE [to disease]. MANY THINGS SUCH AS DIET AND LIFESTYLE MITIGATE AGAINST GOOD HEALTH. EXCESSES OF ANY SORT MITIGATE AGAINST GOOD HEALTH, AND SINCE THOUGHTS ARE THINGS, EXCESS WRONG THINKING MITIGATES AGAINST GOOD HEALTH. JESUS SAID THAT, I DID NOT. YOU [medical doctors] ARE BOMBARDING PSYCHICALLY SICK ORGANISMS WITH ORGANIC AND INORGANIC COMPOUNDS [drugs] IN SHOTGUN FASHION. ONE THING WITHIN THE GRASP
OF TERRAN MEDICINE RIGHT NOW IS THE SUBSTITUTION OF ACOUSTICAL HOLOGRAPHS FOR X-RAY. THIS SHOULD BE DONE SOON. IT IS AVAILABLE NOW. COST IS WHAT IS HOLDING IT BACK. THIS IS A CLEAR-CUT CASE OF SCRAMBLED PRIORITIES.

RC: Could you define "false personality"? [Gurdjieff used this very term, and Michael adopted it.]

THE FALSE PERSONALITY IS THAT WHICH IS PRODUCED ARTIFICIALLY BY THE SOCIETY IN WHICH YOU LIVE. IT IS THE RULES OF MAYA.

RH: Define "hysteria".

HYSTERIA IS THE PRODUCTION OF AN ABNORMAL STATE WITH NO DISCERNIBLE STRUCTURAL DEFECT MANIFEST. HYSTERICS ARE CAPABLE OF PRODUCING ALL MANNER OF ORGANIC PHENOMENA WITH NO APPRECIABLE DAMAGE TO THE BODY. EASTER BLEEDERS
ARE AN EXCELLENT EXAMPLE. THEY ARE RARELY ANEMIC, AND YET THEY SOMETIMES HEMORRHAGE COPIOUSLY. THE HYSTERIC ALWAYS GAINS BY PRODUCING THESE PHENOMENA. DISCOVER THE GAIN AND YOU CAN USUALLY HELP THESE MOST UNFORTUNATE
SOULS. SOMETIMES AN INATTENTIVE SPOUSE MUST BE PRESSED INTO SERVICE IN THIS FASHION. USUALLY, HOWEVER, THE HYSTERIC IS A WEAK, UNDERDEVELOPED SOUL AND
THE PHENOMENON IS THE ONLY WAY FOR THIS SOUL TO COMPETE WITH THE STRONGER SOULS AROUND IT. IN THESE CASES IT IS DIFFICULT TO CURE THE HYSTERIA. YOU CANNOT HELP THE SOUL TO GAIN IN STRENGTH.

RH: Was Christ able to cast out demons?

THE DEMONS ARE PRODUCED BY THE SICK MIND AND DO NOT EXIST. THEY CAN BE CAST OUT ONLY BY ONE SKILLED IN THIS. THE EXORCIST MUST BE ABLE TO GIVE THE PATIENT A VISIBLE SUBSTITUTE; THUS HE MUST BE CAPABLE OF PRODUCING PSYCHIC
PHENOMENA AT WILL. JESUS WAS AN OCCULT MASTER. HE COULD PRODUCE THE NECESSARY PHENOMENA TO MAKE THE PATIENT SEE HIS DEMON LEAVE AND OCCUPY SOME OTHER ORGANISM. THEN, OF COURSE, YOU MUST STILL TREAT THE SICKNESS WHICH CAUSED THE SOUL TO PRODUCE THE DEMON. USUALLY THIS IS MASOCHISM IN ITS EXTREME MANIFESTATION. IT WAS MOTIVATED IN PART BY COMPASSION AND IN PART BY HIS KNOWLEDGE OF THE KARMIC RIBBONS OF THOSE AROUND HIM. HE WAS ALSO AWARE OF THE FACT THE MEDICAL CARE IN GREECE WAS FAR SUPERIOR TO THAT IN SYRIA.

RH: The healing that Jesus did, was that done to demonstrate to people that He had these powers so that people would follow Him to hear "the word"? His mission being to "spread the Logos"?

IN THE BEGINNING, YES IT WAS.

RH: Do you have any suggestions for my changing attitudes in work? Is there anything I could bring into my grasp right now?

YOU ARE BEGINNING TO UNDERSTAND THE CONCEPT OF MAYA. THIS WILL AUTOMATICALLY AID YOU IN YOUR PRACTICE. STRUCTURAL INTEGRATION [otherwise known as "Rolfing", or deep muscle massage] IS VALID ONLY FOR EMOTIONALLY-CENTERED SOULS WHO ARE OUT OF CONTACT WITH INTELLECT AND ALIENATED FROM THEIR BODIES. GESTALT THERAPY IS VALID FOR INTELLECTUALLY CENTERED SOULS WHO NEED TO CONTACT THEIR EMOTIONS. HYPNOSIS IS MOST VALUABLE FOR MOVING-CENTERED SOULS. NONE OF THIS WILL BE SUCCESSFUL IF YOU ARE NOT DEALING WITH MATURE SOULS (middle cycle) [or older].
RH asked about the children. K.H., D.C., AND R.H.[Jr.] ARE FINAL-CYCLE OLD SOULS. M.A.H. AND C.S. ARE FIRST LEVEL OLDER SOULS. V.H. IS A MATURE SOUL. C.H. IS A FINAL CYCLE YOUNG SOUL. YOU ARE ALL CURIOUS, AND THAT IS GOOD WORK. R.H. HAS EXPERIENCED THE PHYSICAL PLANE FOUR TIMES AS AN OLDER SOUL. R.C. HAS SEEN ONE LIFETIME AS AN OLDER SOUL; A.H. TWO; S.C. FOUR.

Are there limitations of experiences on planes?

PRIMITIVE SENSATIONS, YES. THESE MUST BE EXPERIENCED BEFORE EVOLUTION CAN TAKE PLACE.

RH: If one is an Old soul, there is no need for the seven stages you don't need to come back to evolve, do you? I would like to know about the man who devised "EST", Werner Erhard.

THAT IS CORRECT. SOME CHOSE, AS TOMAS HAS, TO WORK OUT REMAINING KARMIC RIBBONS ON THE HIGH ASTRAL PLANE ASTRAL ANGELS, SO TO SPEAK. HE IS NOT A MANIFESTATION OF THE CAUSAL BODY IF THAT IS WHAT YOU MEAN. HOWEVER, HE DOES HAVE A WORKABLE SYSTEM FOR OLDER SOULS. OLDER SOULS ARE CAPABLE OF HELPING EACH OTHER. IN THIS CYCLE THE PSYCHOLOGICAL BECOMES PHILOSOPHICAL, AND THIS
IS THE APPROACH NEEDED. THIS IS WHY YOU ALL DISCOVERED GURDJIEFF.

What are "karmic ribbons"?

(Those interwoven threads between you and the others you are associated with; things they've done to you and you to them; things that have to be evened. In the life in France, RH helped SC escape but not AH. It was said that there was nothing he could do about it, just acknowledge it.)

_____ GAVE _____ THE MONEY, OR RATHER EMILE GAVE EMILY THE MONEY, BUT FRANCOISE PERSUADED HER TO STAY IN VERSAILLES. JACQUELINE WENT TO LONDON AND DIED THERE OF TUBERCULOSIS OF THE BONE.

Is there any way we can get in touch with our karmic ribbons?

YES, THROUGH CONSCIOUS RECALL. S.C. ALMOST HAS IT. SHE HAS FOUND FOUR THREADS ALREADY. THIS IS IMPORTANT. WORK ON IT, THEN YOU WILL KNOW WHAT IT IS THAT YOU MUST DO THIS TIME.

RC: Back through SC's past lives, I did not see her as anything but human.

YOU ALSO BLOCKED OUT ALL HER LIVES AS A MALE.

Have we had lives on other planets?

A.H. HAS. R.C. HAS NOT. R.H. AND K.H. HAVE. IT WAS NECESSARY FOR THEM TO EXPERIENCE PEACE.

RH: I perceive vaguely a better way to heal, but it is too vague.

I HAVE GIVEN YOU A START. YOU MUST BEGIN TO APPROACH YOUR PATIENTS AS SOULS WHO ARE CENTERED IN DIFFERENT PLACES. YOU HAVE VERIFIED FOR YOURSELF THE TRUTH OF THE CENTERS. NOW YOU MUST VERIFY THE TRUTH OF THE [soul Age]
CYCLES. THIS IS PRACTICAL KNOWLEDGE FOR THE OLDER SOUL, NOT JUST IDLE CHATTER. IT SUPERSEDES ALL PREVIOUS INFORMATION. THIS IS THE LESSON YOU MUST LEARN. THE APPROACH MUST BE GOVERNED BY WHAT YOU SENSE INTUITIVELY, GIVEN THIS SPECIAL SKILL.

RH: Should I keep the Capri?

THE CAPRI IS A WORTHLESS PIECE OF JUNK, BUT IT IS PROVIDING YOU WITH SOME BEAUTIFUL FRICTION. YES, SCRAP IT.



 

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